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1661  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Sportsbet.io ⚽ Arsenal + Southampton + SPFC ⚽ (Saturday + Tuesday) on: February 16, 2023, 05:05:44 PM
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1662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: More Awareness needed, 100$ or Bitcoin??? on: February 16, 2023, 04:46:58 PM
I don't know the origins of the video, and it does look like these are Western people, but I don't know... It kind of has vibes of something old to me. The clothes remind me of what was considered cool 8-10 years ago. So what if the video is just pretty old, and that's why the choice was between $100 and 1 BTC (because maybe Bitcoin's price was in hundreds), and that's also why they've never heard of it? Of course, as others pointed out, it could also be staged. And generally similar videos have more value when featuring more people in situations that look more real.
There should be more BTC awareness, I agree. But first we need reliable info on how unaware young people really are of Bitcoin.
1663  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Digital Currencies Should Be Adopted Globally on: February 16, 2023, 04:28:03 PM
Bitcoin and other cryptos can be more attractive in some places and less in others. If it's a country with very low Internet penetration, online payments aren't really a priority there. If it's a country with a high level of digitalization but people trust in their economy and banks very rarely let people down, Bitcoin will have a hard time competing against online banking as well. But if there's enough Internet users, smartphones are quite common, while the trust in the banks is relatively low and/or local fiat is suffering from heavy inflation and people would love to have an alternative, such conditions can be good for Bitcoin adoption.
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1665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin (food for table) on: February 15, 2023, 06:01:38 PM
I don't know about surviving via trading, but there was a time in my life when sig campaign was the main source of income, and everything cost cheap enough for it to cover the rent, utilities, and food for one person for a couple of weeks. It's been a while, lots of things changed, but back then Bitcoin did bring food on the table and helped a lot. I'm sure many went through something similar as well, and some are probably going through similar things now, especially if they have some expenses covered (like having a flat and thus not needing to pay the rent or having cheap food in a student dorm's cafeteria).
But I must say that it's not what Bitcoin is for, and Bitcoin can't solve unemployment or poverty. It can help some, and that's great.
1666  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else getting deflated with the bitcoin naysayers? on: February 15, 2023, 05:45:15 PM
I think it's helpful to understand a few things about people and how we tend to act in discussions or disputes before applying it to Bitcoin, and then it might be obvious why your attempts to convince friends and colleagues weren't successful, op. So we like to think that we are rational and convinced with facts, but that's not true. We accept facts when we are open to it, and if we are convinced we are right, we ignore facts that try to disprove our beliefs. So if a person is sure that Bitcoin is useless, you need to start slow, and even then you're not likely to fully succeed. The key to successful negotiations is finding common ground. If a person thing Bitcoin is a scam, you could say that scams are terrible, and that it's sad people are being robbed like that, and that we all want to have more safety. Then you can slowly start pointing out that banks also go bankrupt, and haven't you noticed that terrible inflation going on, with food costing more? And present Bitcoin as a good alternative that has its benefits, while agreeing about the risks.
1667  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I have always wanted to ask this about bitcoin on: February 15, 2023, 05:19:16 PM
If Bitcoin somehow had a stable price and thus made no sense as an investment but was decentralized, it would be an economic miracle, a perfect self-regulated system. I think it would have gained no less attention than Bitcoin the way it really is, and countries would have felt more threatened by it, as it would have been superior to fiat currencies because they can suffer from inflation and belong to specific countries.
I know I'd be happy to use Bitcoin as a stable decentralized cryptocurrency, and who knows, maybe eventually Bitcoin will stabilize enough to almost make it real.
1668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Know your limit on: February 15, 2023, 04:58:00 PM
Taking a loan is often a bad idea, but especially if a person isn't 100% confident about being able to pay it back, and when it's taken not out of necessity but out of a whim. I don't think you should lend him the money unless you are ready to lose that money.
But if a person bought BTC, can't he at least sell that and repay a part of the loan?
Op, you're correct, of course, that one should only invest out of the money one is earning, and it should be a sum that a person is ready to lose. It can be different percentage based on how much a person is earning and how much is required to cover monthly expenses, but the investment should not come from money required to cover basic expenses.
1669  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can help all nations. on: February 14, 2023, 04:55:43 PM
I've read it earlier about El Salvador that they have a special attitude toward foreign debt: they try to repay as much as they can and be independent of others. That, in a way, helped them deal with the IMF, which was against El Salvador making Bitcoin legal tender, but since El Salvador tries not to owe money, the IMF didn't have much leverage over them.
So even if they owe something to the IMF now, I don't think El Salvador will change its policies regarding Bitcoin. I'm impressed if Bitcoin actually helped them as much. It hasn't been great over the last year for Bitcoin, so I assumed they lost money rather than gained it.
1670  Economy / Economics / Re: Anyone here into passive investing (of their time)? on: February 14, 2023, 11:19:11 AM
I've tried active buying and selling of cryptos in the past. I soon realized that to me, it's not worth the effort, I wasn't very good at it, and I had other priorities. But I had saveral very successful passive investments by buying a crypto early on and waiting for it to rise. I believe that in the current situation, it's best to just hodl Bitcoin. Of course, the difference between active and passive here is that active can bring regular profits if a person is good at it, whereas long-term hodling can easily have months when it's unreasonable to withdraw anything because it will be at a loss.
If you mean something outside cryptos, having an extra flat you can rent to someone else is a good passive investment (at least, in my country), and it comes with regular profits too. But that also requires having the kind of money neither me nor the majority of people have.
1671  Economy / Economics / Re: Untouchable Savings: Do you have it? on: February 14, 2023, 10:59:38 AM
When I was a kid, I didn't understand why some people say they have no money or have very little money when there are soon obvious signs that it's not true or when others claim it's not true. Eventually, as I grew up and started saving money and looking more closely at other people, I realized a thing I call "money that isn't there". It's the sort of funds a person has but never accounts for, often even in front of themselves. It's money which you have, but you say and sort of mean that you don't because that money is not something you allow yourself to use. I get this concept, I understand why people do that. Occasionally, I tried this sort of stuff myself, but in my case I usually end up using this money after all when a big moment comes. Once this big moment was a decision to buy VR, once it was to cover visa expenses to go study abroad.
I don't regret spending money that's kind of there as untouchable savings when the moment feels right. But I also feel way more comfortable having some extra without spending it at all times, just in case I ever need it. Not a lot, just maybe a month or two worth of expenses. I think that's reasonable, but not using it when there's an emergency or a really good opportunity is IMO wrong, irrational. And needless to say, I've never done what the op mentioned, such as cutting back on essential food while having money. Basic expenses come first, savings come second.
1672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could hit $10M in 9 years but more sidechains needed: Blockstream CEO on: February 14, 2023, 10:45:09 AM
Global wealth is estimated to be at $360 trillion, which means that Bitcoin being worth $200 trillion would require the global economy to grow a lot, otherwise it's just way big of a share covered solely by Bitcoin. I don't see it happening any time soon, not even close. If anything, the economic growth seems to be slowing down, and even if it grows, say, 5% a year, I don't think that would be enough to accomodate such incredible value of Bitcoin and its cut in the grand scheme of things. Gold market cap is $12.3 trillion, and that's a fraction of what Bitcoin needs to achieve. I honestly think it's unrealistic because, while the global economy is growing, it's not happening nearly fast enough, and I don't see Bitcoin taking up, like, half of the global wealth.
1673  Economy / Economics / Re: Can one achieve financial independence through crypto currency? on: February 13, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
Financial freedom and financial independence are different things to me, although it depends on how we define them. Bitcoin grants financial freedom in a sense that you own your own coins, you can send them to anyone who has a Bitcoin address directly, the currency isn't owned, managed or regulated by any central authority. Financial independence means having enough income to cover your own expenses without relying on other people (I'm basing it on Wikipedia now). A person can find a job, get paid in Bitcoin, and become financially independent. But it's also very likely that it won't happen. So Bitcoin is about financial freedom, but not so much about financial independence.
1674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin have life span? on: February 13, 2023, 05:11:53 PM
Fiat currencies have existed for many centuries, and gold has been valued for even longer. Everything has some sort of life span, but it can be long enough to neglect that at some point it will end. The world is changing very fast, and it's really hard to predict where it's going. I don't see why Bitcoin wouldn't prosper in the next several decades, but if something major happens like a quantum computing breakthrough or a global crisis which makes widespread usage of the Internet and electricity impossible, then of course Bitcoin will go away along with lots of other things. Digitalization hasn't been going for long enough to see if it's just a phase in humanity's development or a long-term thing. But if the Internet is staying, I think cryptos are staying as well, including Bitcoin.
1675  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Bitcoin's sustainability on the long term on: February 13, 2023, 05:02:04 PM
I agree that scalability isn't a solved issue, especially if we think of adoption of Bitocoin as money (because I wouldn't say it's a big deal for hodlers, traders, or even for occasional big purchases, as hodlers don't need many transactions, traders often use centralized platforms, and big buyers can afford to lose some money on a fee). It's rather just something that's put on hold, not currently obvious as a big problem. Perhaps we'll see very user-friendly off-chain solutions OR get used to being okay with accepting zero-confirmation transactions up to a certain amount of money (then the high fees can be avoided) for the purchase. Or maybe the future of Bitcoin is still more of a future of an asset, not money.
As for a fork, I wouldn't say the risk is past us, but if Bitcoin survived the SegWit situation, I don't think it'll suffer much from future disagreements. A new coin can appear, but it won't undermine Bitcoin, wherever it's going.
1676  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This should be bullish for Bitcoin and it's PoW on: February 13, 2023, 04:48:42 PM
I've looked at the news, and it seems that it's about Kraken being forced to close their staking service in the US, but Reuters says it's because "it failed to register the program". So this doesn't mean that staking per se is illegal, but that you need a permit for it to be legal (there's also a mention of disclosure of how the staked assets are protected by the platform).
I don't think it's good news for Bitcoin, but I don't see it as bad either. It's probably an attempt to ensure that crypto exchanges are held more accountable, following the FTX crash.
1677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Helped my neighbor to purchase some Bitcoins on: February 13, 2023, 04:22:37 PM
It's great that the op mentioned the high risk of investing in Bitcoin and importance of being ready for long-term holding. It's also good that the money was withdrawn from the exchange, and the new investor now knows the rule of 'not your keys, not your coins'.
I hope the part about risks didn't sound like there's a guarantee that long-term holding will bring profits, though, because there isn't. We can believe that Bitcoin will recover, but history doesn't always repeat itself, and nobody knows what the future really holds.
1678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People will choose bitcoins more if the number of cryptocurrency option is less. on: February 11, 2023, 06:06:48 PM
I think the movie analogy doesn't work. There is a metric of rating the movies, but it's widely disputed, and there are also at least different genres in which movies with very different styles, plots and dialogues and be considered good. With cryptocurrencies, there's a widely accepted list by market capitalization, and Bitcoin is just at the top of that list. It's true that there are bad movies and bad altcoins, but there are more aspects to movies than cryptos, which is why it's impossible to name the best movie but easy to name the best crypto. That being said, I don't think the idea of having less works well for movies either. When there were just a handful of movies in the early days, they weren't very popular. The market has growth significantly, attracting more people to movies and allowing single movies to be watched by way more people than before. It's similar with cryptos as well. I don't think Bitcoin would have been more popular with fewer altcoins around, and I don't think the problem with movies is that there are too many of them.
1679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My ideals on how to promote Bitcoin in my locality on: February 11, 2023, 06:00:05 PM
I've seen examples of Bitcoin events being held at churches, kind of like an educational thing. I've also seen someone clear out the matter of Bitcoin being okay in Islam. I know many people here aren't religious, and I don't consider myself religious either, but a huge part of the world is covered by major religions like Islam and Christianity, so pro-Bitcoin positions of religious leaders and Bitcoin education in churches and mosques could actually make a big difference in terms of adoption. As long as it's not preached to be a gift of God (because this way many will be disappointed when Bitcoin loses value and many might be outraged by such radical claims), I think it's a good thought.
1680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Craig Wright suing 16 Bitcoin developers on: February 11, 2023, 05:27:58 PM
I tend to agree with o_e_l_e_o's line of thought about the lawsuits, with a bit of a difference being that I think the goal is to stay popular and seem important, not to silence the opposition. There are people who have enough money, time, and joy out of suing people in lawsuits they can't really win, but that would give them publicity, drain the funds of the defendants, and waste everyone's time because that's not what the judicial system is for.
I don't think he wants to win this one, or that he's dumb enough to believe that something can be changed in the protocol to give him access to 'his' money (if it's Bitcoin we're talking about). It's just an ongoing fuss he's making, harassing people and staying in the media this way.
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