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16681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where we are. on: July 05, 2013, 11:12:29 PM
You are probably wracking your brains trying to figure out where we are.

Near as I can tell we are in a part of the cycle very similar to the time period of April 11, 2012 to May 16, 2012. I base this on a supply/demand dynamic that I see through a form of OBV regression. It shows that longer term demand is slightly lagging but close to supply, close to balance. And for the short term up side and down side risk are also roughly balanced. But take this as a warning, the longer that the price is below the short term equilibrium point the more upside risk there is.



talking head talking.
16682  Economy / Speculation / Re: 70 Will hold on: July 05, 2013, 11:10:50 PM
Back to the 70s baby



still downtrending. even if it goes up a bit we both know it could well go down again.

16683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Get prepared to buy BACK!! on: July 05, 2013, 11:09:27 PM
I hope you guys have funds ready to buy back really soon. Time to tell all your friends and familly to buy now while it's getting down, not when it's going up.  Cool

nope. it might take years before it starts trending up again. tell my family?  to what?  lose their money?

fuck you idiot.
16684  Economy / Speculation / Re: 70 Will hold on: July 05, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
i guess OP is somewhat right. pretty decent bounce

now he's losing money. lol
16685  Economy / Speculation / Re: 70 Will hold on: July 05, 2013, 11:06:45 PM
At least for now... That's my prediction gents.

Don't think we'll even touch it, but please sell down to 71, as I've got a buy order set Smiley

nope.
16686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Nothing Changed in BTC, selling today =give up your future income. on: July 05, 2013, 11:05:59 PM
Things are much better than backed to beginning of April... Why should we sold BTC at the price much lower than beginning of April??
I can't figure out ,since nothing too bad...BTC are more recognized by the public than before , Even more entrepreneurs are under developing their BTC related projects.... As I am writing this  I just arranged a fiats transactions to the exchange ...I hope this a good time to buying.

denial's a bitch.
16687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let's be realistic. For what reason do you really think Bitcoin will rise? on: July 05, 2013, 11:34:06 AM
Well, for the anti-bears out there, think about this.  Sure it would be nice to see the price start to rise.  But, honestly, do you have any plausible reason why Bitcoin would go up?

- MtGox unfreezing payout?  Well, even if technically unfrooze, they still keep a 2 week delay.  Some say that it's because they really lack liquidity and they want to have some cash inflow to pay for the outflow (à la Ponzi).  In any case, we can forget that as the trend changer.
- Winlevoss fund?  Well, those things take time.  It won't happen tomorrow for sure.  And even if it happen soon, do you think people will invest just for that?  There's nothing to back it up except for the speculative/hype aspect of it.  Fundamentally, the hype is already gone, and there's no real economy put forward here.
- Paypal won't go Bitcoin for a while.  It's under U.S. laws and probably don't want all the hassle of registering, etc.
- Any big player jumping into Bitcoin?  Who would risk it?  The buzz is gone.
- Anything else?

On the negative side though there's just more and more that pile up against Bitcoin.

So, do you really just hold in hope that some magical power would suddenly change the trend?  In hope that it may rise for unforeseen reason?  Do you really think such a rise would be sustained?  How much do you think the price would rise over the course of several weeks?  10%, 20%, 50%?  Really, that sort of thing happened last time because there was sustained news, hype, media attention, coordinated turn of events.  Really, the buzz is gone.  People who had the chance to learn about Bitcoin already know about it by now.  The medias already have forgotten about it...  Old story, nothing new.

I'm telling you, the future does not look bright.  And I don't see anything that would sustain a rise, let alone a change of trend.  So, before speculating that the price may rise, and jump back in if it goes up by 5%, think more than a week ahead.  The golden days are behind.

I don't say that it's over, just that the magic is no longer there.  Price may stabilize, but the fundamental problem is there, Bitcoin is still and always had been a virtual speculative hype.  And it's now being seen as a threat by the U.S. govt./banks.  It will only get beaten more and more, and with more fierceness as the price go up, and as more people invest in it.

Bitcoin is still a child.  It's not seen anywhere as a serious option for the future.  Way too much fluctuation.  Way to much uncertainties.

That's my opinion, just my 2¢...  And please, lawful believers and undeniable bulls, put to good use your freedom of speech and don't hesitate to flame me!  That's what the speculative forum is for Grin  But I think it's time to take a break for a moment and do a reality check.

hype.
16688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 11:04:03 AM
nope.  no such thing as a scam if you can profit.  one can argue the stock market is a scam too... or a casino...  or whatever.

Not saying i won't profit on scamcoin, already have plenty of them.
Just that i'll profit as much as possible and sell them with no regret.


yup. dont get attatched to anything. even the beloved btc.

sadly the only thing worth attaching to is cash...  why?  cos once we have them in our pockets we can buy cool stuff with it anytime. even hookers.  you can't get hookers to suck you with btc.
16689  Economy / Speculation / Re: A lot of talk about $50, but the very bottom may be lower on: July 05, 2013, 09:18:18 AM
enough threads about btc going lower blablabla.

look at ppc and trc and hedge your bets.
16690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 09:16:12 AM
Obviously BTC is not the first and the last successful CC we see. Therefore I frequently select a bunch of cool alt coins to invest in. I did this with LTC and it brought me 1200% ROI. I have also invested in PPC and NMC for their innovation.

However, seems that NVC is quite similar to PPC and therefore competing? Why would you prefer PPC over NVC?

PPC broke out with a spike in volume.  NVC is up the past two days but no spike in volume.

I like the look of PPC's chart better too.
16691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 09:14:45 AM
i'm buying with both hands

Be careful when catching falling knives.

lol.  ppc and trc are breaking out actually.
16692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 08:29:59 AM
It's going to rise for sure with the rise in difficulty. It's going to have it's difficulty rise because of ASICs and because it's more profitable to mine than Bitcoin. It's supply is controlled by its difficulty. It's price is determined by supply and demand.

Demand is going to rise because PPC is more stable than Bitcoin and while Bitcoin is crashing down, people will put their Bitcoin into PPC. On top of that, when you find out your ASICs are now obsolete for Bitcoin that only leaves PPC to mine.

PPC is going to become incredibly scarce incredibly fast this summer. If demand stays the same the price will double. If demand increases it could get over $1 or even up to $3. It has 19 million coins like Litecoin but with a lower rate of inflation than Litecoin. It's not vulnerable to 51% attacks and it's very stable in it's price without much volaility.


Nice find, but you're already a bit too late ...  we are 100% over recent low.
TRC got up too. Next turn FTC (despite i the fact consider it as an absolute scamcoin).
http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=3-months&resolution=day&pair=ftc-btc&market=vircurex

nope.  no such thing as a scam if you can profit.  one can argue the stock market is a scam too... or a casino...  or whatever.

and yes, trc is breaking out too just like ppc.  and with a spike in volume i might add.  worth putting a hundred bucks worth just for action and see where it goes.
16693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 03:21:59 AM
ok...  ppc did just break out. so this is something certainly to watch.

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/period-charts.php?period=6-months&resolution=day&pair=ppc-btc&market=btc-e

i wish i could use btce from within ripple as it makes things easier.  just add btce as issuer and i'm good to go.

too bad btce doesn't support ripple as of yet.
16694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PPC is a good buy. on: July 05, 2013, 02:41:51 AM
edit: what exchange is good to buy ppc?
16695  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people trust in fiat money? on: July 05, 2013, 02:06:29 AM
This is a very interesting quesion since when people sell bitcoin for USD, it means they trust USD more than bitcoin

So why do people trust in fiat money, which is created out of nothing by the central banks?

Is it because they have no knowledge about money creation, or because their ignorance about the financial, or their respect/fear about the government enforcement?

One accept fiat money is because all the other merchant also accept fiat money as a payment medium, once this tradition established, it seldom changes

But this is only one reason, another reason might be that they regard fiat money as a safenet, backed by the government. Look at the FDIC rules, it just want to calm people from withdrawing their savings from banks and it worked very well

I think some kind of insurance should be built around bitcoin, to give people more confidence to handle the bitcoin. Saying this is backed by mathematics and network just scared most of them

i cant buy a burger with btc where i'm from. so fiat it is.
16696  Economy / Speculation / Re: Lost my faith on: July 05, 2013, 02:05:25 AM
I'm afraid I've lost my faith in Bitcoin. Somebody save me..

“Be Fearful When Others Are Greedy and Greedy When Others Are Fearful”

― Warren Buffett

buffet is leveling everyone to lose your money.
16697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Imminent fall ? on: July 05, 2013, 01:34:17 AM
Low volume, bearish feeling all around...

Maybe a big fall tomorrow ?  Huh

What do you think ?




nice pattern find.  my answer, don't worry about it, you have no control.  just worry about the things you have control over.  like when to sell, how much to sell and when to get back in.
16698  Economy / Speculation / Re: I get the impression this forum turned bearish, contra indicator? on: July 04, 2013, 11:46:26 PM
Is it just me projecting or do you also notice a big shift here? Only several weeks ago half of the forum was still openly bullish. Now I can barely find a bullish post. Sure the winkle ETF many like, but very few seem to think this will push up the price in the short term. Compare that to the chinese bitcoin documentary that was used by most that 'price will go up up up'.

I'm bearish myself but seeing so many agree I think chances become higher that it will actually go up the coming weeks.

don't bet against the market.  there's only one indicator that can tell you what to do.  the price.

16699  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price: nothing to be worried about on: July 04, 2013, 11:33:35 PM
talking heads are talking.
16700  Economy / Speculation / Re: The One Percent controls Bitcoin on: July 04, 2013, 11:31:07 PM
"The One Percent controls Bitcoin"

kinda like the real world?  1% controls all the wealth.
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