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1681  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: February 01, 2017, 01:25:59 PM
... says the member of a signature campaign. While I'm sure you don't post to make money, most signature campaign members do. Signature campaigns make equally trivial amounts of money. A person can make more money doing menial labor than they can make by posting for a signature campaign.
Again, you're forgetting about discrepancies of the world wealth distribution and existence of the 2nd and 3rd world countries.
There are places where signature campaign monthly wage is higher than money people can earn by doing 'mental labor' in 'real job.
Minimum wage of $15/hr is reality only in the wealthiest countries in the world. Citizens of 1st world nations tend to forget that part.

I am aware, but I agree that many people in the rich nations are not. People in the U.S. complain about the "1%", but don't seem to realize that they are in the "1%" when you consider the entire world. An income of "only" $33k USD is enough to put your income in the top 1%, according to http://www.globalrichlist.com.

Indeed these people are privileged people don't realize that in other countries what they are earning is a dream for them to achieve such salary. Though their income is also proportional to their cost of living so that's the trade off of having a high income. Comparing this to other third world countries the income they have is also proportionate to their cost of living.
1682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sell or wait? on: February 01, 2017, 07:46:26 AM
Now everybody is doing the waiting game. Weee.. Look at bitcoin prices go! And watch it drop like a hot potato again in the next coming weeks. We all gotta be careful now when that happens again. Pumping and pumping then sudden drop will truly make those whales rich again like what happened a few weeks ago.
1683  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the best way to invest/grow your Bitcoins? on: January 31, 2017, 02:09:02 PM
For me trading altcoins is the best way to grow bitcoins as there are major pumps and dumps in altcoin market and if you manage to buy and sell at the perfect time then it can bring encouraging results for you apart from that I don't see any other legit way to multiply my bitcoins.

It will always be the best way to grow bitcoins as many alt coins we can choose but we just need to choose those coins that has potential. Also buying and selling of bitcoins is a good way to invest your bitcoins. Because while you have some trades with alt coin, you can just simply hold it and wait for the price increase for the profit.
Yes, selecting the right altcoin would be the key here. If we fail in that then we cannot expect to grow our bitcoins. I have experiences of burning my bitcoins by investing into altcoins. The real challenge of growing our bitcoins must be finding proper opportunities, else negative earning will be inevitable.

it's really hard to find the right alt coin in my opinion, all of them are just likely to dump even those well known alt coin, and maybe you're not the only one who burned bitcoin from investing on it . I have lost an amount which I can't afford to lose before and it happened not just once Grin investing with one alt coin couldn't be suitable for a long term not like with bitcoin. we should find and invest new more alt coin which can be profitable for a while.

Yeah, usually alt coins even if they are really famous and well traded they just end up dying or dumping till no one wants to buy it anymore. I think investing in just bitcoin is really better than investing into other altcoins. Also do not every invest in just one alt coin. Yes it has good potential to profit but there is a greater chance to lose in these alt coins.
1684  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have about 50$ where to invest ? on: January 30, 2017, 03:58:21 PM
Invest them to get all 10Gb+ of DeepWeb guides:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1765128.0

Usually these guides don't really work only probably 1% of these guides will work. Plenty of them will be against the law and some of the legal ones are unethical. Another problem is that you'll need to be good at computers and other digital skills before you do earn some money.
1685  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Learn to trade on: January 30, 2017, 03:39:46 PM
check out this board that you are on right now, there are already at least a dozen topics about this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1679516.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684305.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1766969.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758123.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702677.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1760305.0
and many more.

and since trading it a general topic and not at all limited to trading bitcoin/fiat and bitcoin/altcoin you can use a search engine like google.com to find limitless resources to learn more about trading.
you can search for things such as these:
"learn trading", "how to trade", "... tutorials" ,... and other keywords you find useful.

also search for investopedia.com and read some of the definitions.

Basically, he said everything. Also maybe next time you should just use the search button on top of the forums or using the google search feature. It will be a lot easier for all of us. Just be careful, altcoin trading is quite different from trading stocks or forex. There are concepts you can use in both trading and forex on altcoin trading but it will not be the same.
1686  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason why people do not get Bitcoin. on: January 30, 2017, 03:07:30 PM
I think it's because they usually try to gamble it and try to double their bitcoins. Some didn't plan to do it but the temptation is always there for people in the bitcoin world as it is extremely easy to enter and actually entices people of unimaginable wealth which they don't actually get in the end.
1687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: January 27, 2017, 10:07:32 AM
Now that I think about it, turns out that BITCOIN is indeed the reason that I got into online gambling.

Before I knew Bitcoin, I only play/gamble offline.
Whenever I want to play, I'd go out and visit my favorite places. It was fun. The atmosphere was lively, the drinks were free, and if you come often enough you'd be considered as one of the VIPs(the regulars. there'd always be familiar faces about.  Grin)

It actually never occured to me to try playing in online casinos. There was always this lingering doubt in my mind, on whether the online casinos would actually pay out any winnings. I considered online gambling to be scams. So, I've never played in any online fiat casinos.

But then came Bitcoin, and now I end up spending a lot of time on my laptop.  Cry  Wink

Because in the bitcoin world there only a few things you can do yet, and one of the largest users of bitcoins are gambling sites. Which is sad really as this technology is really promising and we have so much gambling sites since this is the only innovative way they can think of where people would spend their Bitcoins.
1688  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: January 27, 2017, 09:18:23 AM
in two days ago, i am trying to play dice with my ltc and from 0.001xx ltc, i can make 0.1 ltc, not much but it is worth for me. its a good games for me, i think i can do it again in some other times and i hope i can win more litecoin and of course i will need my luck work properly. thank you fortune jack.
You seem lucky, you made 100x . Congratulation, there are also many other games in fortunejack you can try them too. If you have made deposit more than 10mBTC in fortunejack, you can also try your luck to win 100 mBTC in luckyjack everyday.

I haven't won that luckyjack, or maybe I didn't check everyday. Tongue

Well congrats to you who multiplied his bet a hundred folds! I wish I had your luck, I usually just lose in anything, but I enjoyed playing so that's fine with me. Multiplying it to x100 is not small, it's really great actually!
1689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it legal to run a bitcoin sportsbook or casino in the US? on: January 27, 2017, 09:14:11 AM
The gaming server and website is hosted outside the US. If the owner/operator lives within the US, he breach US law, if he accept customers from the US!

How about betonline and bodog? There are American citizens' sportsbooks and famous in fiat online gambling industry.

There plenty more because the United States is really one of the biggest producers of gambling casinos and websites. They don't have that strict laws against it. Heck, when I went there the gas stations had slots! So I don't think there is much laws or regulations you have to worry about when you're going to build one.
1690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: January 27, 2017, 09:04:03 AM
Going back on previous years I do know gambling but only on offline world/physical world and I don't have any interest on any online gambling since I do know that the terms of deposits would really require you cards and showing off your identity to the site that's why I don't bother at all but when I know bitcoin and the sites which do accepts it that's the time I engage with gambling but still I don't spend too much money and time with it just playing for enjoyment though.
online gambling was popular since 2003 here , and i get into online gambling around 3-4 years after that. it's indeed you need bank account and several personal info to register there , that time it wasn't big problem as long as we are play on a well known and trusted online casino. so for me i know online casino far from where bitcoin invented and used for online gambling currency.
Yeah,i do know that since I have friends usually play gambling online with the use of their cards and bank accounts and on that time I don't have my bank account that's why it would be hard for me to do such activities or hobbies and I would rather spent my time on my job but now I can do it already with only on small amounts because of bitcoin.Fast and anonymous transactions.
but i also heard a lot of story that people know gambling because of bitcoin , especially a young bitcoin enthusiast that addicted to gadget and spend most of the times surfing on the internet try their luck with a couple bucks buy small amount of bitcoin to gamble. who else do this? gambling shouldn't done by underage .
Yeah, I was one of those who got to try gambling using bitcoins because I was underage back then. Wasn't the smartest move, I was really young and stupid. Gambled and lost plenty of money that I don't really have the liberty to lose. I lost money that I can't afford to lose, since it was for my tuition fees.
1691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: January 27, 2017, 08:56:55 AM
i am really far away to be rich from gambling because i am not playing gambling in every day and my winning time is not too much depend other gamblers beside that the amount is not big too. but i want to get rich by doing other work like trading or investing in bitcoin to get me rich in future so i can make much money.
Gambling can't really make someone rich if you already rich then you can make your money grow on that gambling website for me gambling is to those rich only where they playing lots of money and they can really afford to lose lots. Don't just dream for it work hard for it and you wll reach what you aim in life.
really a bad idea when someone talking about how to grow their wealth through gambling. you wealth wouldn't grow there , just decreased or even disappear instead. it was a dangerous way to make money , you may only think about how good gambling reward without thinking about the bad thing that you could receive like you could become poor guy in a single roll.

LOL, I am not sure why people really give some advice regarding gambling that they are saying people can get rich from gambling and it is super easy to get rich in it. Sure it is easy to get rich in gambling, if you're lucky. It is also super duper easy to go broke in gambling that it only takes a second to burn through all your money.
1692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Losses on: January 27, 2017, 08:36:18 AM
Back then when I do lose some money, I deposit some more and try to win it back, well that didn't really turn out well as I wasted a lot of money. I learned my lesson and whenever it does happen again I would just stop and not deposit again. I consider it a lose for that day and not anymore try to chase my losses.
1693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is GAMBLING? on: January 27, 2017, 05:09:23 AM
I want ask mostly people are saying in Gambling we loss everything, but they are still playing gambling.
WHY?
Then people saying that it is Game and fun so we are playing.
I want ask you, Is it Game so you are playing, otherwise what is Gambling?
1. GAME
2. INVESTMENT
3. BUSINESS 
Gambling for me is just GAME i choose number one ( I didn't losing much money in gambling game) at least for today
gambling will become investment and business, if i have website gambling
although it is not easy because needs much capital for building business gambling.

You're correct. Gambling is not an investment for gamblers, but it is true only for casino owners. From gamblers point of view, these are just a games and gives more excitement and shouldn't use these games to become rich or earning fast money because these games end results depend only on luck and mostly casinos owners are going to win at the end.

Casino owners and investors are the only ones profiting from these casinos not really gamblers. Gamblers should avoid trying to profit from gambling just play with it. Usually casinos win because their chances of winning is better than the gamblers that is why there are plenty of casinos and there aren't many people who got rich from gambling.
1694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: January 27, 2017, 03:48:35 AM
Slots is my favorite game because i can invest here only small amount where there is possibility we can make money here but really it is very fun game for me. I keep playing it whenever i have free time so that i can relief my tensions.
Slots for me is boring game because my need still not satisfied i need both profit and fun that is  why i stay in sports betting because its more easy to choose a team that you can analyse just to watch their previous games also many sites are giving tips.. that you can choose what is the best and more chance to win..

But not everybody likes sports and they like to gambling in easier ways like slots where you only have to spin it. Similarly, this is why dice is so popular! Lazy people don't even need to know the rules. You just have to bet high or low then roll the dice then you win or lose that's all you have to do.
Thats precisely right mate most gamblers just wants an easy results they just relying with their luck and easy double or burned their bankroll i know strategy games will give us some edge but in reality we also wanted to try our luck and gamble with fate and sometimes we do funny things like yolo and wair what will be the results.

Well basically that's why we gamble right? To try our luck. But for me I believe that while trying our luck why not just play and have fun with it too and not just aim for fortunes. Though it is one of the most exciting way to gamble, I wouldn't recommend people to YOLO bet on anything unless you just have the funds for free or you're playing with faucet funds.
1695  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin poker on: January 27, 2017, 03:20:47 AM
The largest and most comprehensive poker room is Betcoin.  Thru BetcoinRakeback.com you are also able to get the highest rakeback in all of online poker.

Good job advertising your service on other people's thread buddy! Keep up the good work! Maybe you should spend on a signature campaign to really promote that thing rather than posting them yourself in random threads like these. I can even make a signature campaign for you if you'd like. Cheesy
1696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it legal to run a bitcoin sportsbook or casino in the US? on: January 27, 2017, 03:17:33 AM
I think it is and I don't think there is any restrictions to it because there are so many of the online gambling sites operating in the USA.

I would just like to point out the guy who want's tips for giving you info, why not just apply as a consultant for him. LOL. Instead of asking tips, I hate it when people give "free service" where it isn't free because they actually asks for a fixed tip.
1697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: January 27, 2017, 02:28:17 AM
Slots is my favorite game because i can invest here only small amount where there is possibility we can make money here but really it is very fun game for me. I keep playing it whenever i have free time so that i can relief my tensions.
Slots for me is boring game because my need still not satisfied i need both profit and fun that is  why i stay in sports betting because its more easy to choose a team that you can analyse just to watch their previous games also many sites are giving tips.. that you can choose what is the best and more chance to win..

But not everybody likes sports and they like to gambling in easier ways like slots where you only have to spin it. Similarly, this is why dice is so popular! Lazy people don't even need to know the rules. You just have to bet high or low then roll the dice then you win or lose that's all you have to do.
1698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: January 27, 2017, 02:00:20 AM
For how much time do you usually let your money invested in a casino before finish or renew it?

I just let it there and I have removed it even if I have profited already. Probably when I doubled it I would probably remove it from my the casino investment. I've probably gotten around half worth of profits from one gambling site, well I was just probably lucky there. Also, since the concept of investing in casinos require it to be left there for a long term investment.
1699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did gambling get you into Bitcoin or did Bitcoin get you into gambling? on: January 26, 2017, 11:59:48 PM
Personally I have been gambling before I know bitcoin, but not often play because using fiat is need more time to arrive in my balance + your transaction easily track by common people.
When I know bitcoin and there are pretty much bitcoin online gambling, it's facilitated me. It's more easier to fill deposit + the transaction is hard to track by common people, it's have negative impact too if you can't control yourself, it's become easier to be addicted.


My friend brought me into bitcoin gambling i don't know bitcoin since then but he invited me to try this kind of gambling since im addicted in real life gambling and i tried it  now im playing different kinds of gambling where i can earn profit too.

I advice you, don't think gambling is a field for collecting profit, you will regretted someday if you still think like that.
Well I did regret gambling back in college. I lost half of my tuition money thinking I can double or triple it before the end of the semester. Well that didn't turn out too well. So I'll advise anyone else too that gambling will not give you profits but just regrets if you try to earn from it. Just do it the old fashion way and work hard for it.
1700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: January 26, 2017, 11:57:03 PM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??
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Are you asking the audience if we become of rich because of gambling? I that so, no I never try it ever since  I was a child. Many people are getting in the gambling for hoping one day they will it the Jackpot, Wich means instant millionaire in one day.

Plenty of people tried and 99% all failed to get rich from gambling. Only a very few lucky people were able to get the jackpot in anything. With super low chances of winning in gambling I don't think very much people would be able to say they got rich from gambling. Maybe if we play with big amounts of money we can earn big but in the end we'll just lose.
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