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1681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: October 07, 2014, 01:54:33 PM

Just to put things into perspective... while the Anglo-Zionist propaganda press focused on the alleged suffering of Russia from their sanctions (nearly ten months after it was introduced, but Russia was still growing in the last quarter while Germany already shrunk), here's the funny part: while they glowingly recount that Russia MIGHT go into recession, the slaves used to sanction Russia have already plummeted into triple-dip recession...

Europe's Triple-Dip Recession Arrives: German Industrial Production Crashes Most Since February 2009

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-07/europes-triple-dip-recession-arrives-german-industrial-production-crashes-most-febru

So, they are using propaganda to taunt Russia that it will be reached by the floods because of their sanctions while they were already washed away by the floods...

 Cheesy

Re-posted the above here as it's more relevant to this thread.

A reader comment:

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Stackers

From boots on the ground I can tell you orders for new construction equipment in Germany are off by +50% this year. One crane manufacturer told me they only sold 800 units in Europe this year when they normally sell over 2,000 and lost orders for "hundreds of machines" to Russia due to sanctions.
1682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: October 07, 2014, 12:38:34 PM
So where to hide in case there will be war between USA and Russia? I live relativley close to these countries Sad

That's a funny statement. Does it mean Earth in general or Canada/Norway/Greenland/Japan?

I think it will be pretty safe (for a certain value of safe) to live in either of USA or Russia. Avoid countries hosting NATO military bases. Especially avoid if said countries are also a platform for the "defensive shield". That's the countries that will get hit first and hardest.Smiley

The best option would be Mars.
1683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: October 07, 2014, 11:55:42 AM
While reading some of the older jokes in Russian, I came across this prophetic one from the end of June:

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After the sanctions by the Visa system, Russian government finally realised that it would not hurt having a national payment system.

Now all Russians are eagerly awaiting when the Western countries will impose on us sanctions in the food area, so that our government would realise that its time to revive agriculture.

 Grin
1684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Moldova on: October 07, 2014, 11:47:47 AM
Anything and everything to do with Russia, even if it has a look of beauty, is really the Russian government trying to take control of the whole world. It has always been this way since the Bolshevik revolution. And unless Russia is forced into common law, it will always be the same.

Smiley

"Bolsheviks" (which were a minority, just like the Right Sector in Ukraine is a West-financed minority) are the ones who tried to force Russia into "common law". The 1917 coup d'etat, financed from London and executed by a half-German russophobe. The parallel to the 2014 coup d-etat in Kiev are striping. As are the consequences.

Define "common law" by the way. If you mean the international law, UN, Russia is the only country that currently abides by it, to its own detriment. But I guess that by "common law" you mean the US-instilled law of conquer, rape, murder and subjugate. Sorry, as long as Russia has some breath left, that won't fly.

When you talk about the role of the money, on the other hand, you make sense, yet then you start pushing a MSM-promoted demonisation of Russia, one of the few countries that remains standing up to the dominance of petro-dollar. I don't know where to place you.
1685  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: October 07, 2014, 08:02:19 AM
And it will certainly increase the number of Crimean Tatars who accept Cemilev’s earlier argument that Russia wants a Crimea without Crimean Tatars.

copyright and source:
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.it/2014/10/window-on-eurasia-disappearances-on.html

Does he also explain in this context why Tatar was made an official language in Crimea, while Tatars are guaranteed a percentage of seats in the Parliament, something that Ukraine failed to do over the 20+ years of occupation?

Also, 18 Tatars disappeared? Out of a population of Crimea of 2+ million? That's like <0.0009%, which is HUGE!  Roll Eyes Have they tried to look for them on the battlefields in East-Ukraine, with the Nazi battalions genociding ethnic Russians by the hundreds?



Let's bring some balance to the Western propaganda.

An Op-Edge by Nadezhda Kevorkova, a war correspondent who has covered the events of the Arab Spring, military and religious conflicts around the world, and the anti-globalization movement.

Russian wife of a Crimean Tatar hero
http://rt.com/op-edge/192864-crimean-tatars-wwii-air-force/

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“Do you want to talk to the Russian widow of our Crimean Tatar hero? You’ll hear the opinion of a Russian who knows our people, though her view is different,” a Crimean Tatar family offers.

“Different view” means a positive assessment of Crimea becoming part of Russia.


A memorial plate to a Crimean Tatar fighter pilot, Hero of Soviet Union.
1686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 07, 2014, 07:58:12 AM
Germany sends more than 100 trucks to Ukraine



German Minister for Development Müller will assist Kyiv with an aid convoy valued at ten million euros (more than twelve million US Dollars), destined primarily for the war-ravaged territories of eastern Ukraine.

Given the approaching onset of winter in Ukraine, the federal government has formed an aid convoy of more than 100 trucks, destined primarily for the east of the country.

The Development Ministry announced on Saturday that the convoy is expected to arrive by mid-October in the troubled region.

Included in the shipment are mobile housing units and kitchens, heaters, generators, water and diesel tanks, winter clothing, blankets and cots.

The inventory was “closely coordinated with the Ukrainian government” and essentially intended for Eastern Ukrainian cities such as Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk and Sloviansk.


“Millions of refugees in the country”

“We want to send a message of solidarity,” said German Development Minister Gerd Müller (CSU). It is estimated that one million people in Ukraine had fled because of the violent clashes. Müller wants to hand over a part of the shipment in person on October 14 in Kharkov.

According to insiders, the Federal Government is considering a Bundeswehr mission to monitor the mediated ceasefire by the OSCE between rebels and the army in eastern Ukraine. If political decisions are made for an OSCE mission with the participation of German soldiers, the Bundeswehr would be willing to participate with personnel and equipment, it was reported in government circles on Saturday.

However, the possible number of troops is undecided. There is still no clear-cut concept of operations, since this depends both on the particular security situation in Ukraine as well as the conditions of the OSCE.

German-French talks

The Foreign Office announced that the federal government is currently engaged in talks with the French Government regarding support for the OSCE as it assumes its duties in Ukraine. “These are currently only exploratory discussions,” said a spokesman of the Foreign Office.

Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier has discussed the topic on Friday in Paris with the French government. “Nothing is decided yet. Prior to any possible decisions, difficult legal and policy issues need to be clarified,” the spokesman said.

copyright and source:
Die Welt
translation by EuromaidanPress - Rafael Szlom
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article132915621/Deutschland-schickt-mehr-als-100-Lkw-in-die-Ukraine.html

This is actually good. Will these trucks get inspected with the same scrutiny by OSCE and the media as the Russian trucks were?
The other valid question: will this aid reach the people whose homes and lives were ravaged by the Galician/Ukrainian Nazis? The Germans plan to offload their trucks at the Ukrainian border. It would be as is American help to Soviet Union during WWII was off-loaded in Germany and entrusted to the Germans for further delivery. Knowing the level of corruption and hatred towards the Easter regions by the Galicians who will be receiving the load, it is safe to assume that none of the aid will reach its destination and will be stolen.
1687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: October 07, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
Hey! Do you know - some interesting analysis of the reasons for the crash of flight #MH17
was made by The Russian Union of Engineers:
http://российский-союз-инженеров.рф/en.pdf
http://российский-союз-инженеров.рф/de.pdf

There's also a video about that - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7puNlaX0s0

I found it illuminating.

Nice find!
Also, this is probably the first time I see a non-Latin domain name in actual use.
1688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Moldova on: October 06, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
And a small aside about propaganda: anyone would be naïve to think that news outlets don't push some propaganda, be it Russian or American. The question is about proportions. During the Soviet era, the proportion of propaganda in Soviet media was close to 90%, while the Western media were more moderate: 50-60% judging from the old publications that I read. The picture has largely reversed now.
1689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Moldova on: October 06, 2014, 11:41:18 AM
This got steam-rolled over on the previous page:

Some more in-depth background on Moldova, Pridnestrovie Moldovan Repoblic and situation there:

Moldova Explosion Coming 2: Coalition “Moldova’s Choice-Customs Union”
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/moldova-explosion-coming-2-coalition-moldovas-choice-customs-union/

Nobody here ask for one-sided propaganga (Moldovan, Romanian or Russian notwithstanding). Sadly the news outlet you put here are only russian so you're acting only as a Russian-side voice.

And the reason why I reference Russian outlets is because I don't read Romanian. And if I don't come with the Russian-speaking (not the same as Russian ethnic) side of the story, who will? Do you want it to be one-sided after all? To rephrase a famous British writer, "I speak for them that have no voices" (at least when it comes to picture-painting in the Western MSM). I'd be happy for niothor to come with the Romanian-side of the story.

Maybe You cannot recognize this because you're acritically accepting Russia's voice.

Yes, I am accepting Russia's voice, and am proud of it. As of late, it's been a tiny voice of reason in a roar of lies. And I am accepting that voice critically, after having weighed the alternatives on the scales of consciousness and integrity.
1690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Moldova on: October 06, 2014, 11:24:37 AM
So the Western media pushes lies for half a year about Ukraine and it's fine. I make one mistake and it's propaganda? Sigh. I am not forcing you to read my finds. Some of the links I posted come from people intimately familiar with Moldova. I am not, and I said as much in one of my discussions with niothor. But from what I learn the strategy used to put a wedge into the country is disturbingly similar to the ones used in the Baltics, Ukraine, Egypt, Lybia, Syria...

By the way, will I stop being a "propaganda" if I start posting exclusively Romanian-sided views on Moldova and say that the Russian-speaking part of Moldovians (a couple of million people) can be disregarded and discarded? Will I suddenly become a good source of information then?

I want to be a good source of information so here goes: All Russians and Russian-speaking nationalities in Moldova must be deported, aAll Moldovans (at least the one worth keeping alive) want to join Romania. Romania was so good to Moldova  during WWII and provided all Moldovan Jews with food and free lodgings. Europe want Moldova to become a member state - that's what the Association is all about. Once Moldova is a part of EU all Moldovans will freely travel to Germany where they are eagerly awaited and get work for good wages. EU and IMF will give Moldova billions of € for reconstruction, completely free of any interest. The coming NATO bases will make Moldova super secure, it will not in any way affect the country if missile strikes are conducted from them against Russia.

Have I been a good student in not being "propaganda"?
1691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Moldova on: October 06, 2014, 10:30:46 AM
No, I wouldn't. Also, I am reporting what I saw in media. If my perception of it was incorrect, you are, of course, free to rectify it - that's the nature of democracy as understood in Russia. Wink This one detail, however, does not negate all the other points made.

PS: an interesting read on history Modavia and Romania in WWII and the Moldavan losses by the hands of Romanians:
http://www.newsmoldova.ru/commentary/20120507/191391727.html
1692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? on: October 06, 2014, 10:20:46 AM
'NATO can deploy wherever it wants’, new chief claims
http://rt.com/news/193404-nato-expansion-stoltenberg-russia/

So, can Russia deploy wherever it wants too?

My greatest concern now is not an imminent invasion of Russia by NATO (Russia has finally reached nuclear parity with US after the 1990s disaster), but that, having de-facto failed at Ukriane coup and MH-17 false flag, the US will launch some massive 9/11-class false flag with a lot of casualties to further demonise Russia and to open up for the use of their new toy, the "Russian aggression prevention act" as a way to fully legitimise an aggression against Russia.
1693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 06, 2014, 09:43:24 AM
A good Op-Edge by the British journalist Bryan MacDonald:

A journalist’s duty is to inform. Have western press forgotten this in Ukraine?
http://rt.com/op-edge/192544-media-coverage-ukraine-bias/

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Whenever the public right to know comes under attack, a heavy responsibility falls on the journalist. When I was 17, my teacher told the class this salient information. Did the Western mainstream media learn it too or have they simply forgotten it?

“News is what someone wants to stop (you) from printing; all the rest is ads.”- William Randolph Hearst.

...

In recent days, Russian TV channels been “reporting (in Ukraine) mass graves, numerous cases of civilians pulled out of their cars and summarily shot, mass graves of people shot with their hands tied in their back and tortures, tortures and more tortures: systematic beatings, branding with swastikas, knife wounds, broken bones, heard trauma (and) damaged kidneys”, according to Russia Insider. Some of these reports may be exaggerated but, on the assumption of no smoke without fire, there must be some truth. Western media haven’t bothered to assess the issues.
BBC did run a report which, loosely, touched on the story but instead focused on an error by Russia’s independent REN TV. They, correctly, pointed out that REN had used a photo of MH17 body bags to illustrate a report about the alleged East Ukrainian atrocities. BBC then went to state: “The second image used by REN TV appears intended to support the reports of ‘mass graves.’ The reality is rather different.”

“An OSCE report on 24 September about the graves mentioned by the Russian media said that two of them contained two bodies apiece. It said that at another site there was a mound resembling a grave marked by a plaque bearing the names or initials of five individuals and suggesting they had been killed on 27 August. There was another inscription saying they had died for ‘Putin's lies’, the OSCE noted,” the writer, Stephen Ennis, continued.

So by BBC logic, a potential five-person grave is not a “mass grave?” Certainly, the British usually murdered far more than five people on their killing sprees, indeed there’s a mass grave in my hometown in Ireland containing more than 600 victims of British barbarity. Nevertheless, five does count as a “mass grave” in the civilized world, even if the Brits once aimed for higher numbers. The BBC then goes on to complete the article by referring to Alina Kabayeva, whom it describes as “the former gymnast and MP who has been romantically linked to Putin.” This is the kind of stuff one would expect to read in Hello! magazine, not a serious news organization as the BBC purports to be. That said a number of recent Western media features, including an infamous Newsweek front-page piece have been straight out of Hello!’s stylebook.  



European countries chose 'destruction tactics for Ukraine' from outset - Duma speaker
http://rt.com/politics/192924-osce-europe-security-ukraine-naryshkin/

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At the Autumn Meeting of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly (PA), Russian official Sergey Naryshkin made the Ukrainian crisis a top European security issue, while speaking at a conference on new security challenges in the region.

At a meeting on "New Security Challenges: The Role of Parliaments" on Friday, Naryshkin, the Head of the Lower House of Russian Parliament, who leads the Moscow delegation, delivered a speech in the debate on such topics as the threat of extremism, and the protection of human rights.

Naryshkin said he was under an impression that some European countries had chosen "tactics of destruction for Ukraine" from the very beginning of the conflict. He also pointed out that Kiev authorities make it clear that certain recent agreements, including the peace plan reached in Minsk on September 5, "are non-essential and can be easily disrupted."
1694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: October 06, 2014, 09:40:42 AM
Ah, here's the explanation:
http://rt.com/business/193240-ukraine-pm-debt-eurobonds/

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Ukrainian Prime Minister Yatsenyuk’s statement that $1.67 billion was transferred as part of the country's gas debt payment actually refers to the repayment of Eurobonds which Ukraine’s Naftogaz received under state guarantees, Russia’s Gazprom says.

Gazprom accuses Poland, Hungary, Slovakia of rerouting Russian gas to Ukraine
http://rt.com/business/192808-gazprom-poland-hungary-slovakia/

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“There is every reason to believe that Russian gas is being delivered to Ukraine that isn’t intended for them, but for other European customers. This is generally done under the ‘virtual reverse gas flow’ scheme, but we have seen gas movements across the Ukrainian border,” as TASS quotes Deputy Chairman of Gazprom Aleksandr Medvedev.
1695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 06, 2014, 07:48:27 AM
Meanwhile, a socialist party won the parliamentary elections in Latvia... It seems that is the reason for Pagan's butthurt and significant jump of his activity... Waiting for elections in Lithuania and Estonia. Cheesy

As far as I follow the news from the Baltics, this party represents the 25% of the Russian-speaking population and those Latvians who would rather not go the way of cheap nationalism, but would like to see Latvia restored to its former prosperity.

I think it is as good time as any to point to a little time-capsule from the Soviet period. It is a detective film "Check to the Queen of Diamonds", filmed at Riga Film Studio (which produced a lot of films, where is it now?) in Latvian (so much for oppression of Latvians). It was then dubbed to Russian.
http://qucha.ru/13650-shax-koroleve-brilliantov.html
Apart from a great plot, this film is a revealing time capsule of life in Latvia and, to some part, Estonia of that time (1973). Here are some of the things that are worth mentioning: a private doctor practice, a yacht marina, people's clothing, the way one character say that if you want to sell your car, you should do it in Estonia as prices are higher there.
This rhymes well what my mother told me of trips to Riga from Moscow (the allegedly best-supplied place in USSR!), when it felt like you travelled abroad, as well as with my own impressions when I first visited Riga and Vilnius in the 80s.
1696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Split] WW3 Re: Analysis never ends on: October 05, 2014, 04:00:39 PM
How can that be good?

In a few million years another intelligent species might arise, an maybe, just maybe, they'll be better at talking to each other to resolve conflicts.
1697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: October 05, 2014, 02:35:25 PM


This is sick.
"Glory to the great Germany, the liberator"

PS: On closer inspection, according to a comment from here
http://vk.com/id155789887
This was a film set.
1698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 05, 2014, 02:22:58 PM
Curiously, Tomishenko has come out of political hibernation, during which she let Poroshenko to harvest all the "honours" of implementing the plans she voiced for killing all the Russians in the East of Ukraine.

Now she said that she is going to go to Russia to support during the criminal trial (and say a few words to Putin in the process) the female soldier who was a spotter for the Ukrainian artillery and who allegedly pointed the fire to a column with refugees, killing two Russian journalists in the process.

This is a PR stunt as Timoshenko herself is wanted in Russia on several criminal charges and not possessing any diplomatic immunity, she would most probably be arrested as soon as she sets foot on Russian soil.

And a joke/anecdote that is circulating nowadays:

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Snowhite, Thumbelina and Baba Yaga(*)  are travelling together. Each is boasting:
Snowhite says: "I'm the most beatiful in the world!"
Thumbelina boasts: "I'm the shortest in the world!"
Baba Jaga croaks: "I'm the most cunning, scheming wicked crone in the world!"
They come to the house of truths by the road and each steps in.
Snowhite walks out in tears: "I'm not most beautiful after all, The Sleeping beauty is"
Thumbelina is like wise heartbroken: "I'm not the shortest, Little Tom Thumb is!"
Out stomps Baba Yaga, fuming: "Who in the name of Hell is this Timoshenko?!"
*) Baba Yaga is a evil old witch of the Russian fairy tales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga). An interesting bit of historic trivia, not mentioned in the Wikipedia: Baba Yaga's name apparently has its roots in the period when Russia was occupied by Tatar-Mongol hordes, and she was male. The initial name comes from a Babaj-aga, a Turkic word for a chieftain. Children were put fright on with: "If you don't behave, will give you to Babaj-Aga" (http://old-fox.livejournal.com/148248.html)
1699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ukraine rejects Russia Gazprom gas price hike on: October 04, 2014, 06:06:45 PM
Ukraine still hasn't paid anything despite Yatsenjuk stating the opposite (again):
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/10/04/gasdebtrepayed/

Meanwhile, an interesting statement from Iran, in reply to EU saying that can replace Russian gas with Iranian:

Iran not ready to replace Russia as gas supplier - Rouhani
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752760
1700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: October 04, 2014, 06:01:15 PM
New shelling of Kievan-region of Donetsk city. A school was destroyed. No children were inside at the time of bombing, but Russian-language teacher was killed by the shells.

The outskirts of Mariupol were also shelled by Kiev-supported forces today as well.

Shelling of Donetsk residential areas inadmissible — EU foreign policy chief
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752720

At least 1,300 people missing in Donetsk Republic
http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752761



There are reports that a humanitarian convoy, consisting of 100 trucks was dispatched from Germany. The convoy was not ratified by the German government and its content is unknown, which begs that OCSE and Red Cross should inspect it. If it's really humanitarian aid, well done, Germany, better late than never!

http://ria.ru/world/20141004/1026925065.html
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