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1681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS) - New Dev team: Fedoracoin Foundation on: July 02, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
nova exchange is safe to buy tips on right??
1682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 08:44:55 AM
Decentralized economics,

     Thank you for the correction!  Agreed then.  I second your motion for superfund to be held over for re-election.
    Also agree that he already won.  How can you have 30k people at your rally in a town of 35k people and win by a slim margin?  So yeah voting needs to be enforced this year with a seperate ballot box outside where folks put their second ballot in pen on paper.  That is guarded by armed guards (also known as citizens with guns).  Then there must be a count of every person that goes into the voting building with HD cameras inside the building to make sure there is no one double voting.  The we can calculate the difference between the two number to find the discrepancy from the inside versus outside vote and we can match that against the number who went in and thereby check the actual vote against the outside vote for accuracy.
     Funny thing about electoral colleg is that it was formed so that California and New York do not take over the country (or do).  And with Trump he is actually trending in both regions that are typically polarized.  He is a bringing people together despite what the lame stream media suggests.

   Tensai,

     I think your concerns seem genuine so I will address them as such.  First it is not exactly apples to apples your comparison.  Why do I say that?  What do I mean?  Please let me explain, they are similar:
     You show us an example with Trump and super PAC problems.  The problem is we do not know which one is a good one.  Why?  Because the law is loose and fast in the "real world" with loop holes at every corner and each level.  And while it is true that someone could skim off the top etc.  What is not true in your comparison is that had these super pac been crypto based like we are, they could have seen when funds where moved.  While that knowledge does not stop the movement of funds it does limit others from investing in something the moment it has problems the damage can be stopped and since I agreed to reveal (which anyone who registered a super PAC must do anyway) you would know who I am.  So going back to your example we can improve the management of risk and we can improve the transparency of the process.  2 things not currently available.  Finally, you are correct to show these examples and to say they cannot happen here.  That is we cannot allow this to happen with our project we are discussing.  Let's find a crypto way to solve this.  think about it tonight, everyone.  I agree I do not want to take Trumps money.  I wan to make TV adds, blast the media, support his campaign.  How do we do this.  I already know if we are successful we will be attacked and vilified anyway so what can we do to make this type of abuse does not happen?  Since I proposed ideas will be handled through a process I cannot use my own pr firm unless I am the only one with ideas.  The other major criticism I get from this article is they do not do any work.  So then I suggest we start right away with projects as soon as we are ready we should be making movement in this department.  I know it is not expensive to get into google searches (yes I know they are rigged against Trump) I know some tricks to fake out the bots.  It is not expensive to purchase billboards.
    Did you know that just talking with people a little bit helps.  Most business folks are just hi, how much, ok thank you bye.  What if they are a Trump supporter that owns the billboard.  We might get half price!  We might get it free for the first month.  Anyway, I have bought billboards in the past.  I have done feasibility studies on different television markets for both adds and full tv shows on different channels.  And it is not as expensive as you may think.  I was raised in a political house by a political sage (not often you find those 2 words together).  I currently have a friend/ ex-legal mentor) who was a contemporary of Trumps at one point in time who actually was approached to be considered for running against Bush for the presidency.  At that time it was estimated he would need 100M USD to win and so he decided it was not worth that much to him.  So I do value your concerns Mr Tensai,  I too wish to avoid embarrassing Mr Trump and myself.  What do you suggest.  I do not hold much hope for attorneys being involved.  But I do like your idea of legal contract.
1683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 07:59:28 AM
another thought I envisioned was to find the poster in this thread with the most activity points.  Maybe that is a good way to go...
1684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 07:57:47 AM
My official idea for trump fund is to place it into the super pac once it is formed.

How are you going to orchestrate "placing it into the super pac"?  The super pac is just a legal organization.  Someone will have to hold the keys to the wallet.  Who do you envision this being?

Decentralized Economics,
     This is a good question.  I envisioned myself but each time I dismissed this thought because I was trying to avoid the responsibility of that as well as the responsibility of the super pac.  Also I am trying to avoid envisioning myself because I am a newbie and our bitcoin forum profiles are the only thing we have to go on for each of us in the decentralized group we find ourselves.  You do not know me from Adam and vise versa.
     So now we are back to the trust question.  I would really like to hear from someone else on this.  I am talking too much.  If no one else will do it I can hold the keys but I will need to change my opsec a bit and have support of the group.  I would also like you to know me a bit more.  Also, I think if we have counter signatures it makes this question less important.  But I do not know yet how feasible that would be with this tech for this coin at this time. 
     Someone please comment and make suggestions/ observations on this.  Do not leave my comment out here by itself.  This is important.   
1685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 07:43:53 AM
Decentralized economics,
     I like you comments but I feel duty bound to state that while Trump may have it in him for another run in 4 years (Hillary does not).  I think we will be down the tubes and even the best manager (Trump) will have a hard time recognizing what country he is running for after 4 more years of a Clinton presidency (Queen/ Monarchy).  But I do take your point to mean that we are not going anywhere even though politics does.   And in that way I very much like the idea (and attitude) behind your comment!  I am a young man and therefore would love to out perform things like the DAO on a grassroots-styled shoestring budget (non ico) start-up.  We are not for sale.  And we can prolly pay our own vacations by that time anyway!

    Dear All,
     There is a young man who did an interview with Alex Jones a week ago or so.  I was very impressed with him.  I sent a message asking a member to contact him since I am not a social media type.  This young man is a huge trump supporter and only wants trump fans following him.  This was done I believe a few days before we started to hear about possible interviews with AJ team.  Maybe it is connected I do not know.  Anyway, this young man is living in Europe now and he has a story worth hearing about.  I think he would be a good person to ask to join us if he is not already here.  Were it not for his experience living in a country at the time that he did he might not be the agent of change that he is.  He has wonderful memes, photos and attitude.  Can someone with social media please volunteer to like or share or whatever twitter does so he is cross linked with our social media pages.  PM me for his name.
      
1686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 07:08:02 AM
My official idea for trump fund is to place it into the super pac once it is formed.  In this way it can go to work as the engine for Trump.  We can sell off some trumps and folk can add trumps into it.  We should alway try to keep it at the same number so there is always funds ready for our next project/ idea.  This is how you make this engine purrr.  Then after Trump gets elected it can become the official cruze (boat cruz not ted cruz) fund because our super pac helped get him elected and we used and reused those 200K trumps so many times that it caused pure history!  

*EDIT* my comment about trump fund after election is more joke than anything but still maybe worth considering some group activity. 
1687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 06:57:25 AM
tensai,

     I agree with these points and as you see I have been trying to address them.  Progress has been made in literally the last hour.  So thank you and I agree.  So let's think then while you are here to help us.  What our the real options at this time?
     We can do a multi signature account where by a trump fund manager as you said can be calling order then when time to decide a counter signature is required or two for the  ability to have a check and balance system in place.  There can be requirements for this signature requirement to be triggered and we can even use roberts rules of order, etc. for the submission of ideas.  But I really did not need to go into this right now at 3 in the am.  I think first LIKE YOU said we need to get the block explorer fixed.  Right now we are walking with one leg and are spilling more beer than drinking until that is fixed.

     I am the first to agree that there are some things that should been done before we tell many people.  Especially truth experts like Alex Jones who find only the best research to publish and also does very good investigative work himself.
    But we must use what we have I like where you head is at in this last post.  You are not wrong.  I just think we must go in order.  If no one offers suggestions by the time the block explorer is fixed then we will move on with best practrise which I think is a plan, counter signature spending for super fund and what ever other good practises we need.
     But as far as you real world comments.  I am sorry but what does that mean really?  You think because it is called escrow that means something?  There are good and bad escrows.  Plus I trust banks less than I trust strangers on the street.  So in response again, I do not know exactly what you mean by real world but if it involves brick and mortar banks, legacy institutions I am not involved.  I am not hiding or criminal.  It is that I feel they are the ones that are hiding and criminal.
     If I wanted I could write us a trust that would cost millions to break then more to sue.  I can tie all our assets to the land in such a way that they could never be taken.  And I could make a company that is basically above the law for lack of a better word.  But does that mean I will or want to?  No.  I think those things are the problem and should not exist.  If the counter signing idea has some real world merit I would love to hear your thoughts on it.  If there is some other real world ideas we can consider please tell us.
     Thank you very much for your comments.
1688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 06:22:11 AM
tensai,
     If you took the time to read this entire thread before you ever posted like I did then you would know the answer to your question about indie max.  He was being trusted with a lot of trumps and he was worried about his computer having problems.  I am pretty sure that is the event chickens65 is talking about.  And I can confirm some other parts of his story about selling as he said some of us could.  Bb

I bet you have this same level of scrutiny every time you save an African with 25 cents a day right?  You check the christian fund website block explorer that doesn't exist don't you?  Because the last thing we want is that 25 cents touching another persons money while it sits waiting to be used.

    And he admits the block explorer is not working after someone else stated that.  So there is some confirmation.  Do not race to conclude with fear uncertainty and doubt.  I will wait to hear from the tech dept. wizard of trumpcoin.
1689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 05:33:17 AM
Chickens65,
     I am not sure what you did before this but I am glad it brought you were it did.  You had a great idea and show the wisdom needed for it to thrive!  Thanks for YOUR acknowledgement!  Enjoyed your update (so did the trolls haha).  I will proceed (still reluctantly however).

Depredation,  Does the tech wizard check this thread?  Or does someone need to send an email?  This is regarding the block explorer..
1690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 05:07:45 AM
on other news:

Here is a video you will not hear about in the lame stream media: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/concealed-carrier-stops-mass-shooting/
 
and here is the biggest bust in Florida (sorry no not Dolly Parton): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu9bi4Eyfgw

Lastly, I leave you with a history lesson:  There is an old tradition in one of the Native American tribes that to become chief you first must live with the poorest person (usually a single old woman) in the village for at least one year.  Only after this does one become qualified to be Chief of the village.  This way as chief you will appreciate the struggles the poor must go through and be a complete ruler for all the people rich and poor alike.
1691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 04:33:50 AM
ok, so super PAC needs to happen.

     In that case a little housekeeping:

       We need to know that the block explorer is working and that the Trumpfund is in tact.
 
     I think it is also fair to imagine many people are still arriving and kicking the tires on this tech and finding out about this coin.
     So the other few issues should be looked at in the next few days for quality of user experience.  Is there any accounting that we can do without a correct block explorer?  No.

     So, I will have the super pac paperwork filled out and ready but I will not send it until at least those things are addressed.
I think 24-48 hours is a reasonable time for the tech department to let us know if there is a problem with block explorer.

     If there is no objection I vote for 2 trump addresses be used.  One for donating to the Super PAC directly.  In other words each trumpcoin that goes into this wallet is 100% for super PAC activities.  And the other is used for only money making activities.  Obviously both will help Trump just one is directly political and the other is indirectly at best.

     And lastly to calm the critics: I do not care who dumped trumps today or yesterday.  They made it possible for me to buy low again today.  Thanks!
     Remember many people on this project from day one have been paid with Trumpcoins only.  So this was their first real chance to get some money back for their time, effort and expenses.  If we cannot be real about that then we cannot be real.  I am not a P&D expert but I did learn a lot from watching the buy and sell windows.  I think I now know what Chickens65 meant when he said responsible selling (dumping).

     Lastly, there is one very important condition upon which I will do the super PAC paperwork and that is that we all understand this is a crypto super pac only!  I will be accepting crypto coins only!  And crypto coins can be used to be converted as needed to purchase the things we wish to fund.  TV adds, Radio, new media, etc., etc.  So long as we all understand this fundamental difference I am willing to do this (reluctantly).  I am not willing to get bank transfers and work in the traditional banking realm.  If I wanted that I would already be doing that and I do not want that.  I am here in crypto land for a reason so we will make the system change for us not the other way around.
   
1692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] FedoraCoin (TiPS) - New Dev team: Fedoracoin Foundation on: July 02, 2016, 01:12:30 AM
I bought a few million fedoras from hellion on nova.  I hope they were the good tips.  He said he would donate to the windows wallet and getting on yobit.  If he updates you guys with these donations I will buy more to prime the pump.
1693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 12:27:22 AM
I have this as trump fund:  TQE62DG4A9TVBXyM1D83aLA2kZWyVwcn7V



Maybe the Donation address is a stealth wallet and changes for every IP address? I don't know how they work, though. Last time I tried to send Trump to a stealth address it failed.

Ditto,  the last time I tried a stealth address send it did not work for me either.  Now I am know I am not the only one!
1694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 02, 2016, 12:02:01 AM
I have this as trump fund:  TQE62DG4A9TVBXyM1D83aLA2kZWyVwcn7V

1695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 11:45:41 PM
I have volunteered to be unmasked.
And I am in USA at the moment.
Speak english as my native language
can quote founding fathers for 7 days straight with citation (stopping only to sleep, eat and shower).
And I own expensive looking clothes.
And as you can tell by my previous posts I am willing to take risks putting up my time and labor to back this 1st of it's kind coin.
I believe original dev is honest.
I also believe current dev team is functional and full of potential
I welcome any donations below is my trumpcoin address in case any one wants to 'whale me'.  Thank you

1696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 11:33:17 PM
lucky7btc,
     I have a question for you instead.  Who cares?  Let the guy pay some bills and take his family out to dinner.  You don't think he earned it?  In other news I have a light and it is blinking.  BB
1697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 10:56:33 PM
folks,
     If we look at the only two legit criticisms that the one mod had at reddit the other day, he only complained that we are just a pump and dump and there is nothing else to do with this coin.  I guess he means both before and after the election.
     To address both of those concerns I have bought trumpcoin.store where before the election trumps can be spent on stuff to show your support for trump (t-shirts, buttons, goods and services).
     I plan on agreeing to donate 35% of all purchase prices to be used to buy more trump coins off the buy walls.  Additionally I will agree to donate 5% to helping the poor locally and directly.
     In addition, after the election I will be offering other options.  I really hope others wish to participate if and when possible.  All are welcome.  I also will be doing news stories in case any want to get their press pass and help keep the media honest we will be paying in trumps!

     Lastly, If no one else will do it...I will apply for the super pac.  I do not want to do it.  But I see logistical problems if we do not do this because there is no good legal plan on how to fund trumps campaign right now so this will say hey look what we are doing with the 200k Mr. Trump and then people will buy these coins faster than all get out because they get recycled into projects.  
     Example.  Trumps fund is worth 1M USD.  we buy a billboard for 600 USD.  Trump fund sells enough to raide the 600 USD and then someone else buys the trumps on the exchange and donate to trump fund.  Now trump fund just accomplished a task and was then replenished by the people who support the concept.  It's not just winning.  It is win- winning.
     Think big.
      Thank you for your time and attention.  Good discussion.
1698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 09:19:37 PM
Mr.  Steele is an honorable man.  It is a compliment that we have his attention! 
1699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 09:06:17 PM
I think 2% transaction fee is worth it because that is what check cashing places get.  If alex jones provides a service that is easy to get funds exchanged for trumps then I feel he has just earned 2% of each transaction for himself.  This way the more he sells the more he makes. 
 
  Are there any bounties left for this coin?
1700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: **TRUMP COIN**PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COIN. YES! WE WILL SECURE HIS ENDORSEMENT!!! on: July 01, 2016, 08:29:15 PM
I've got a news story for you.  Here's the headline "Man sells all his ether coin and DAO coin to invest in TRumpCoin!"
  True story.  Or at least it will be once this damn mist wallet loads...
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