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1681  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin User Poll #1 - Age - how young are you? on: May 03, 2017, 07:01:32 PM
Congratulation for your post is very interesting, hope to see the result of it Smiley. im 24 years old and im kind of a newbie in this matter just here to learn how to earn bitcoins and for paying my education in college Smiley

Many bitcoin users are over 30 years of age and above, but you have a higher potential than them, because in business, success is not only owned by people who have experience, but also people who continue to innovate and creative nature more owned by young age .
1682  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: May 03, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
Bitcoin is not to hold for a long time and you should take advantage from each and every fluctuation to make quick profits which is never possible with gold and to make good profits from gold hold it for a long term.

Easier said than done. I agree that profit booking is extremely important with any type of investment asset. But making the decision with BTC is extremely hard. You never know when the next spike or crash is going to occur. So it will be better to have some targets in mind.
That is true but the thing with bitcoin is that you don’t have to stick around and wait for a long time for the price to go up you can save and as soon as it goes up you can get profit from it, unlike gold that you have to wait forever until to make a noticeable profit from it, but still that is your option if you have the time and the patience.
Yeah but you need to accept about the risk you will got too, gold is the safe investment. people who have invest their money on gold not worry like us who have invest money on bitcoin. Both have the same advantages but all depends on your intelligence in making predictions.

No need to continue using word "risk understanding", because basically all investment business is very risky, we are more trust in gold because it's legal and have ownership that's very accountable, and bitcoin is the right reason for the type of person who has strong mentality to continue making their economies double in an active way.
1683  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: May 03, 2017, 06:51:58 PM
give him android game faucet Roll Eyes
Those game are the worst games i don't know if you have ever tried them but those are literally filled with ads it was basically impossible for you to click the claim button as 3-4 banners pop up. If we actually had to teach are children about bitcoin we should encourage them to buy bitcoin using the their savings and tell them how the price of your initial money increased.

It's true if we introduce it through the game because their orientation doesn't have to go directly to earnings, but your next opinion is also true, teach them how to make a wallet, and fill some small nominal btc to them. However don't teach them about this forum too early, because many negative aspects like gambling and betting, this aspect isn't wrong, just not good to be taught on your kids.
1684  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: May 02, 2017, 05:03:47 PM
There is one disadvantage with Bitcoin and that is people trying to hold onto it. Some people know how to hold onto their Bitcoins and some people don't. From what I've been reading in this forum, the people that lose money while putting their money in many Altcoin ICO's  would've been better just by holding onto their Bitcoins instead of recklessly spending them.

That isn't a disadvantage to consider.

Although I don't get the point of your last statement, it's clearly that the concern you had there is a general behaviour and not as a direct thing related to the whole context of using bitcoin.

Also, you said that some people don't know how to hold coins and others know. Mate people have different views why some of them preferred holding and others don't. If their strategy works for them then we have nothing to do with it and just stick with our own way to deal with the current bitcoin price movement.


Many people choose to hold bitcoin because of limitations of their knowledge in trading and other bitcoin business. If this is said bitcoin disadvantages-wrong because it doesn't affect the actual price at all, it obviously benefits them because it refers to the rising bitcoin price trend and they not do any risk business and they call it fixed assets.
1685  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: April 28, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
I think the most disadvantages that i see in bitcoin is the feature that bitcoin posses because bitcoin is anonymous many illegal transaction can happen and for that reason government cannot allow that in many country and also bitcoin is a threat in the economy for that reason that's a big disadvantage of bitcoin if the government cannot accept bitcoin no bitcoin user's in that country.
Anonymity of bitcoin is getting rid by the officials in a slow process. I know that being anonymous is one of the things we like that we can found in bitcoin but the government doesn't want that like what you said, so in able to be accepted by the countries, bitcoin need to sacrifice it and be transparent because i also believe that it is a good one because we can avoid criminals.

We know that current civilization is very influential on capitalization, monopoly and intervention of every government in the world, I understand bitcoin trying hard to fight this system, but until whenever it will not be publicly accepted as legal tender. Civilization prioritizes transparency budget, I don't know exactly what Japan's doing, but I think they just accommodate regulation of taxation, transactional and nothing more, So the biggest advantages and disadvantages of bitcoin is anonymity.
1686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling vs Betting on: April 27, 2017, 04:32:07 AM
For me there's is no difference. also risk yourself.
Maybe betting can use in sport bet, and gambling in casino. that's all.


Sports betting is also called as sports gambling, no difference at all as everything is just an activity of gambling. When you gamble you need to make bets, otherwise you are not gambling at all, I think that is clear now, it's not a complicated thing if you really understand what is gambling.
Agree with that they just change name becoming more unique both of them can be addicted betting doesn't mean you make your self become gambler its more important to have self control to avoid looses even in sports doesn't mean the odds is small you will place bet already analyzing is much important too.

If focused in detail, it's very different technique although it remains on one roof, betting uses the reference value of the actual match while gambling can be done anytime, so it's very different. Self-control is urgently needed but I believe all gamblers have a random logic ratio of 70% and 30% using normal ratios.
1687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: April 27, 2017, 04:24:12 AM
You can't go rich if you don't understand the power of those small dips of money into your pockets which could become huge one day if taken care emphatically as well as money attracts money, so whether the investment is small or big - should not matter, but where did you invest it and if you get it back or not - should do. What makes sense is investing your money in a smarter way to grow it even if it is small. Even for example, if you buy an alt and it rises high above, let's say, 50x, won't that turn into a big return even if you invest 0.01 btc?

This applies to trading market, but doesn't apply to gambling because gambling is a one-time and concentrated game, I if using a little investment will only make our minds not grow and always think to bet everything (win or lose in total) Which is not good, we better use a large balance and play in middle stake.
1688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: April 27, 2017, 04:18:07 AM
Give your vote to any kind of gambling, is that the betting on soccer games, playing poker, roulette, online gaming, live gaming....??
Playing poker is my favorite one, I think it helps me to gain knowledge every time I played together using my analysis and observation fto the card that has been dropping in the table, was very challenging to me, and it is not boring to play with. But most of the I often lose in the end, Grin

I love poker and football betting, specifically I think poker requires a challenging adrenaline so our heart and brain keeps on being driven to victory. Sports betting is the counterweight because when it's too stressful on poker table, we can move temporarily to focus on something more relaxed, by analyzing some teams that will fight tonight. So all the time becomes productive if we stay on the same track about gambling.
1689  Economy / Economics / Re: The best time to invest. on: April 27, 2017, 04:10:30 AM
i think best time to invest.... NOW. because tomorrow price will increase. this motto is able for all days. TTM.
It's just a prediction and also bitcoin will not always increase sometime bitcoin will fall so we have to choose the right time but to invest bitcoin is very not recommended for now because the current price is very high
i am talking from previous few weeks when the price of bitcoin was trading below 1270 USD that in recent time the price of bitcoin is expected to increase more and more and very soon the price of bitcoin will start increasing and now we can see that the price of bitcoin is trading above 1300 USD level that is really a very heavy price.
Bitcoin price reach $1300 right now and I've ever heard ; don't buy bitcoin at ATH when all of the people talking about it because it may drop back after that. But, we don't know whether current price will increase, stable for a while or wait for another decrease. So, it depends on your own decision as Op stated the best time maybe today with the information you have, bitcoin price will always rise anyway.
Yes, be smart and don't fall for the news, the ATH is just a good news for holders and also a signal for those bag holders because that one of the right time to unload their few bitcoins from holding. Bitcoin price have a potential to grow up even more but it is better and wise if we don't buy at the ATH price of bitcoin because there is more chance of getting loss than profit.

1300 usd is a fragmatic number, because it has risen too significantly above the average price (1100 usd), it's good if we start to sell it gradually, because if bitcoin rises very high usually there are issues that blow and make panic for some time. I prefer to keep most of it and hope price can touch 1500 usd.
1690  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: April 26, 2017, 04:35:14 AM
Trusting anyone with your money is a bad idea, when you put your money in a bank you must never trust that it will be there you need to always be careful about what you do since banks can easily confiscate your money by just making a few clicks on a screen.
banks will only do that if you are doing an illegal transaction, if not, there is nothing to worry as all banks
are govern with the law of the state and if they violate you can already file a complaint against them.
yes that is very right that states are monitoring all the banks, their activities all the depositing and withdrawal, even the banks are ensure so you do not need to worry about the banks. here in my area even some banks are owned by the government, and most of the people are receiving their salary on banks.
It's under their radar actually, when a bank will operate it will ask for a licenses to the government before they will start operating.
Hence, they are guided with the rules and regulations that will be issued by the central bank from time to time.
For now in addition to monopolization of money that has been done by banks, banks do provide many benefits for business operations. The government in my country provides a guarantee on the customer's money in a certain amount, so customers do not have to worry about losing their money. The interest rate of a bank also affects the price of a country's currency, so I think we should at least trust the state-owned bank.

Since birth we are accustomed to trusting the conventional banking world, so there is no reason not to use it, I applaud people who have never saved and used bank services throughout their lives (I do not think there is a human being like this in developed and developing countries). I support if one day the bank adopts P2P system and will automatically accommodate bitcoin as an integrated service center in government.
1691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reason Why Casino Bankrupt? on: April 26, 2017, 03:23:04 AM
Some games in casinos can be solve mathematically. There are card counting involve and probabilities. If you're into making a casino you must hire a statisticians, economics engineers, and mathematicians to solve for the best possible chances, rolls, counts to a win a game. Some casinos are letting card countings in the game and some are not. High capable players can make millions if the management of the casino are not careful. Thinking outside or getting rid of the box is needed if you're into business like this because you're dealing with highly capable people. Good luck.

I think every professional casino has a banker, programmer and statistician who has a high reputation, they also don't want to take the risk to give up too early due to losing the analysis of its users. But there are cases where casinos go bankrupt because they do not take this into account, especially the new casino and don't have budget for some of the jobs above. But for online gambling even those using bitcoin always hire an expert progammer, before the initial launch of their website.
1692  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: April 26, 2017, 03:15:45 AM
At times like this, very prone to panic selling occurs. Well, at this point the bitcoin price is so high, so do not be surprised if very many people will sell its bitcoin. Moreover, today the bitcoin price has reached $ 1300. Well, there is likely to be panic selling for people who have a lot of bitcoin, especially for those who have been targeting current prices.

There are people that are just hoping for the price to reach up to $1,300 and since it landed on it already they will be to do selling. But if there are no whales that will start selling then there will be no followers of it. As the price can possibly go up and is able to have new ATH, as long as we are not going to do panic selling.

Everyone has panic selling because bitcoin always has a point where price movement becomes very unstable. I try to think in the opposite direction, I don't really care about the actual price of bitcoin and try to focus on the profit taking from the price difference. So while other people sell bitcoin in a panic then I even think of this movement as an advantage because it can instantly calculate the price difference in circulation quickly.
1693  Economy / Economics / Re: Satoshi Nakamoto should be richer than Bill Gates. on: April 26, 2017, 03:08:39 AM
satoshi nakatomo still unknown
and until now bill gates still richer in the world, i think if satoshi nakotomo richer  can publish , because in this country satoshi nakamoto still pay TAX
Well satoshi nakamoto is unknown so i cannot say that satoshi is really richer than bill gates because bill gates is a known and famous person so he still the richest person in the world. But if satoshi revealed himself and seen all of his money probably he could be richer than bill gates

Many people are richer than bill gates because title of the richest people is based on the physical form of what it does, the rich people in Arabian peninsula tend to be more low profile and cover up the facts of true wealth, I don't think this is wrong because assets are not counted as The most important factor of wealth.

In this case satoshi chooses not to appear so that we can't compare it to anyone (I think he will never appear), and most people only consider satoshi only as the mascot of a group of kryptologists, I am also a people who think satoshi is the main code of bitcoin project.
1694  Economy / Economics / Re: Make money from money on: April 26, 2017, 02:59:45 AM
To make a lot of money, first you will need a lot of bankroll, money roll more money

make also an passive income, it will help you to roll more money passively. without doing that actively you can invest in paper assets. from their money will make more money.

There are two understandings here, for the use of mobile assets and passive assets. If we are positioning as a passive asset, then it is better to use money for gold and property investment, but I suggest for those who want more results is to invest it widely and unlimited, but still I don't recommend to invest in hyip, even the form of ponzi Because it will only hurt you.
1695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: April 25, 2017, 01:30:07 AM
Which game you played when you earned most of money?
I did played dice game i earned but not much bigger but that time when i gamble. But now i stop it because nothing can get good in gambling. And you may lose all your money if you always in gambling its hard to win bit if you lose all your money can lose.
Playing dice i made a lot of money and my lucky days are long gone and now a days i am more interested and concentrating in trading rather than gambling,made some money through sports betting too but the problem with me is that ,i would enter a bad bet and would loose everything in the end.Trading in a bull market is always fun and the risks involved are minimal.

It's unfortunate for you because if you are very comfortable in trading and able to control emotions and management, it will automatically have the same skills in gambling, so it's not wrong if you use your money in these two businesses because you are first level In management of self-control And finance.
1696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the future of gambling on: April 25, 2017, 01:22:01 AM
Real life gambling is more dangerous than internet gambling. Becasue in real life gambling, we must invest some money to play, and most of the time we will come out with an empty hand. Internet gambling is not like that whenever you have money you can play, and we can access it any place. So easy to use and I agree that hackers may hack our account, but it is not an easy job.
but i do not think that there is any difference with respect to money investment in gambling, to me i think it is more easy to play gambling online, as you can access any gambling site while setting at your home and can play for any amount you want, as there is no restriction about investment in gambling site. so it depend on your strategy and planing that either you play gambling in a risky way or in a safe way.

Just the same thing between online and offline gambling, the difference is only in place and time to play, indeed online gambling is the development of today's technology, but we will feel a tremendous hegemony if we engage directly and meet face-to-face with the real gamblers if visiting a casino Original, the value of immediate social will greatly determine the spirit in gambling.

In the future a real casino will not go broke because many people are still interested in moving directly, it all depends on the hobby and the likes of each, in online gambling also we no longer need to carry cash and worry about being robbed, this is no longer valid Because we just bring debit/credit cards, even bitcoin wallet while in the cashier.
1697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to make governments accept bitcoin? on: April 25, 2017, 01:10:14 AM
I think government need to study more about bitcoin and how it works. Because bitcoin its not easy to use an entire city that that they not study about it. And maybe they not adop bitcoin because some people are not use technology and they don't know how to use modern technology.

Third world countries are accustomed to following what developed countries do, many countries that make America and Russia as benchmarks, so if these two countries have positive steps on bitcoin, they will automatically follow it in bulk, comparative study requires time and government budget that's not a little value, but this doesn't matter because they use positive laws to continue to develop civilization.

The best way to continue to seduce the government to accept bitcoin is to continue to improve consistency of community and increasing volume in trading market, indirectly will continue to move the global power that the future will not be rejected by government and world civilization.
1698  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN ATM MACHINES on: April 25, 2017, 01:00:33 AM
Bitcoin ATM?? this is prone to the hacker, why they can use ATM if they have an option to deposit amount thru bank. I suggest instead of ATM maybe bitcoin channel to the convenient store like in 7/eleven were the most applicable to buy bitcoin.

Sometimes we need a lot of variants in marketing and promotional strategies, in this case bitcoin atm is a good variation although its use has not been sought by many users, because hackers must have been the first service provider's obligation to consider security. Before the installation phase. It's true that marketing will be very easy to develop if bitcoin services are applied to franchise stores, but in many countries still stumble regulatory issues because they fall under the category of public facilities.
1699  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tanya Jawab Seputar Forum Disini/Ask about this forum here! on: April 25, 2017, 12:51:17 AM
sepertinya dari kemarin baca baca yang ane ngerti cuma sedikit doang,masih banyak istilah bitcoin yang ane tidak ngerti.kayaknya lama nih baru bisa pintar.ane juga belum ngikut signature campaign dan lain lain sampe ane mengerti benar cara mainnya,masih lama.

dicoba saja ikut signature gan, ane dulu mikir gitu kudu naik ke member baru bisa ikutan, tapi ternyata jr.member dah ada banyak lowongan termasuk altcoin, kita kadang ngerti karena kita ikutan,ga harus numpuk teori dulu.

Maaf gan gmna cranya s bkrja dsini.....
anak pemula.mhon bantuan dri kalian gan......

selamat datang, dicoba untuk posting dulu sampe 30 biji sambil belajaran gan, nanti pintu earning masuk pas sudah jr.member, minggu lalu termasuk shock news karena ada 2 signature bayaran besar yang nerima newbie, yang penting paham dulu deh. Ane dulu senangnya bukan karena bayaran dan cari ilmu, tapi ane mulai paham dan kenal beberapa teman dimari, disitulah muncul minat untuk terus intensif.
1700  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me a secret: any way to earn 0.1 BTC per week? on: April 24, 2017, 06:21:20 AM
Easiest way. Get a real job. Buy 0.1BTC from exchanger everyweek. Wait for BTC price hike. Done  Wink
That is a easy way to get 0.1 bitcoin in a week but i think the op is searching for ideas on how to "earn" 0.1 bitcoin per week and if you ask me, combining a lot of ways to earn  bitcoin will be the best, like signature campaign earnings to trading profits to investments then it will lead him to earn 0.1 easily per week.
If you are good in trading, you do not need to include your earning in a signature campaign, that would not give you constant income and it is not under your control as anytime they might stop. When you are good in trading, you control your time as you can do it anytime of the day, also it will not limit your earning as you could earn more with bigger capital.

Yes trading will give you permanent source of income and same cannot be expected from signature campaign as we never know when the campaign will stop its service so in that case you will be left with no income and moreover there is no campaign that will pay you that high amount of bitcoins.
That would depend on how good you are, one can make trading as his permanent source of income if he has more success than failure. That is easy to say but it's hard to do it, the market changes from time to time, so whatever technique or trends that you follow might not be working anymore in the future.

Depending on time also if the OP wants to be quick or undergo a process that is not for a while, if you want fast, gambling is the best alternative, especially if you are someone who is good at reading momentum for a period of one week, profits and losses will still accumulate into net income 0.1 btc each week. If the minimum trading requires 3 to 5 times the initial capital to be stable in nominal desired.
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