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16801  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: ✴ Blockchain Cops and Lawyers on: November 07, 2017, 05:13:10 PM
I guess it's good that someone is thinking of such a project. However, you might want to avoid getting involved in law enforcement, especially since that would already be the jurisdiction of regional and international agencies such as Europol and Interpol. What would be helpful is to provide a service or agency that helps point people in the right direction to such avenues for assistance.

For example, raise awareness on the organisations already recognised as legitimately able to take action, depending on jurisdictions, provide the direct hotlines and contacts to victims of fraud and other crypto related crime, which is likely to already be under the purvey of existing regulations, even if there isn't any body at the moment responsible for crypto as a whole. A lot of such organisations gather at conferences such as these: https://www.interpol.int/en/News-and-media/News/2017/N2017-002. Connect and network with them.

Although, I imagine a service that helps with legal aid would be helpful. Not too many firms specialising in the crypto area atm, I'd wager.
16802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 07, 2017, 04:12:09 PM
Cant believe they are giving the job to moyes. Did they see the job he did at united sunderland and in spain? seriously would think even roy hodson would be a better replacement than moyes.

Well lets wait until its confirmed but it couldn't been worse than that, Moyes has fakllen from grace and i don't think he would do anything better but lets wait and see what unfolds in the coming days. Maybe a foreign coach will be better.
i favore seeing Moyes back at Everton they have been struggling the most this season and with the 11 seasons he spent with them would make him as number 1 candidate as he is experinced with most of the players and club. and for West Ham i would prefer to see Alan Padrew . and i think what was the thing that accelerated the sack more then the obvious defeats is that Bilic refeused to get Renato Sanches from Bayern and Grzegorz Krychowiak  from PSG he went to West Brom on loan and Sanches to Swensea and that didn't make fans happy and now he is gone but we should expect from the Hammers to announce the  name of the new manager in the upcoming days
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Moyes is a solid coach, but I suppose there is some truth to accusations that he is a fighting manager built for a fighting club. I think he drew as much energy from Everton as they did from him - just look at the products of his golden boys... Lescott (who's now into crypto by the way!), Rooney, Cahill, Jagielka, Pienaar, even Fellaini (heh heh). Fighting underdogs, great strength, seldom silky, often brawling.

Now you put him into teams that are used to winning easy, used to seeing opponents roll over (cough, Utd) then he gets lost. He is a guy with an instinct to survive, not, unfortunately, be champions. So yeah, West Ham, sadly need his calibre now. Everton need to move on from Moyes so they can be the second Merseyside team to fight for trophies.
16803  Economy / Speculation / Re: Monday correction TA - Head and Shoulders pointing to 6600 target on: November 07, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
i agree with the correction thing but not the bottom. you can not predict the bottom, specially not with Technical Analysis. i have seen too many of these TAs that i have lost faith in them all.

specifically the Head and Shoulders thing. there was even a popular (but dumb) one around a couple of months back where people drew a line between 2013's top and this years top and called upon the imminent drop down which never came!

Anyone would agree with the correction, but I've been agreeing with it since the $4k mark, and any correction hasn't been able to outlive a week since. But technical analysis is absolutely a very loose guideline here and by no means indicative, which is something we should have learnt by now with Bitcoin. I have been overestimating Bitcoin's bottom for what seems like a long time now, but I suppose one must remember that it has only been a matter of months and there's all that steam from the bull run to run out of before price stabilises... or will it ever?

H&S has to be the most overused - and most proven wrong - in this forum. I even see it being used on 15-min charts.
16804  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-07] New French Restaurant in New York City Accepts Bitcoin, Ditches Vis on: November 07, 2017, 01:08:06 PM
Ha, instantly predictable online response from the crowds. Alienate mainstream and accept Bitcoin, cater to millenials and big bankers? Publicity stunt more than anything else.

But don't worry they won't lose business. By the sounds of it, French Restaurant in the upper NY city, their clientele is unlikely to be Visa using middle class echelon anyway.
16805  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin pricing on: November 07, 2017, 09:33:41 AM
you see this chart is very valuable. it has lots of information on it but it is always misinterpreted.
as you can see on the chart, in the initial phase or the stealth phase the rate of rising is pretty slow. the smart money is in or rather the early risk takers.
the second phase in which the adoption has grown bigger the rate increases a lot more. since bitcoin is global and a lot of different  countries are in the world some in phase 2 some in phase 3 i say we are somewhere between theses two phases where the adoption has grown quite a bit so the price rise is much faster than before but since there are still lots of "lack of awareness" we are still in the start of the fast rise and not yet reached the peak.

it may probably be a couple more years before we reach the end of 3rd phase and start the "Blow off phase".

Except that Bitcoin has been compared using technical analyses in the past, and has more often than not beaten or failed to live up to market convention. Of course, over the long term (pre-trade market til now), we've already seen some charts that look vaguely accurate. But that's only looking at Bitcoin price as a commodity/digital asset.

Take almost any other crypto and you'll see wild variations. The differences here are in Bitcoin use and adoption, which surely affect the curves on that graph. As users and adopters start using Bitcoin less to trade and more to practical payment use, I predict a much softer downwards curve slowly approaching, and then following the mean.

If there were a blow off phase, I'd actually expect it next year.
16806  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank of Uruguay announces launch of own crypto currency on: November 07, 2017, 08:12:51 AM
That's true but in the cryptocurrency world, this is big news. I don't think it matters wheather Uruguay has a big Bitcoin market or not, what's important here is that a Central Bank from Latin America is discussing the implementation of a blockchain-based cryptocurrency. I mean, a few countries from Europe or Asia could learn a thing or two from Uruguay, since they are the first country in the world to implement their own cryptocurrency.

I found more news about this but they are in spanish, but from what I could understand using online translators, the Central Bank of Uruguay is going to call it something like "digital banknotes" and starting this week people will be able to manage their funds on their smartphones by using an app from Google Store or Apple Store. And if i'm not mistaken, the public can also use an exchange (or a payment processor with physical stores) to convert their digital banknotes into paper money.

Only time will tell how big of an impact this will have in Bitcoin in that country.

Digital banknotes isn't quite the same as cryptocurrency but we'll put it down to translation.

Yep, just because Uruguay isn't a big player doesn't mean that this event won't form ripples and counter effects. We've read about Bitcoin's emergence in South America due to the spiralling economy in Venezuela. I don't know the value of a central bank implementing a national crypto (it certainly is not the first to discuss, if all the news proves to be true, we might see the first pop up in Saudi Arabia or Russia), but the hype from that alone would surely set off a string of imitators in the region.

On the downside, I think it's bound to fail as a revival of economy. But it's an experiment anyway, so I suppose there's nothing to lose, only lessons to gain.
16807  Economy / Economics / Re: Greater fool theory: The bitcoin bubble on: November 06, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
There are thousands like myself who also don't buy, but earn in Bitcoin. The Economist writer/editor has completely overlooked Bitcoin's first and foremost purpose: a digital currency and P2P payment method. I have already seen on my own personal usage, how I earn Bitcoin and then spend it - completely irrelevant of its price. Sure, most Bitcoin price tags have a fiat value attached to them, but hey fiat price tags also change from time to time to reflect their changing values.

And sure, I sell Bitcoin regularly, simply because I have bills to pay and mouths to feed, but I do it almost irrespective of prices. Sometimes I make more, sometimes I make less. I try to make more, but never at the sacrifice of holding off paying bills.

Sensationalist writing, but everyone's entitled to their extreme views, I guess.
16808  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-06] BP, Shell Lead Plan for Blockchain-Based Energy Trading Platform on: November 06, 2017, 05:13:58 PM
I'd been wondering when this industry was going to finally step into the light of blockchain - probably should have guessed the Netherlands would be a starting point. I know BP already mentioned of experimental trials for the same trading supply chains, but there are just so many applications the industry could look at improving through blockchain tech; compliance comes to mind.

Oil and gas has always been one of the highest at-risk when it comes to AML and bribery, though I suppose simple trading costing would be the safe launching pad. This way, the actors sees it as foundational, rather than disruptive tech, something a vastly traditional industry will resist. Brent will probably lead the pack in blockchain adoption, but certainly not earlier than 2020.
16809  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Are there any reliable cloud bitcoin mining sites? "new member" on: November 06, 2017, 03:54:31 PM
So you can see for yourself: the consensus at least from this forum is that cloud mining for Bitcoin is simply not profitable, reliable or not! Instead of wasting your money, if you really want to insist on trying out cloudmining, I would point you to two sites, with the disclaimer that this is not a recommendation. Simply for the experience:

1. eobot. They run a daily faucet in Bitcoin and others, which you can then use to buy tiny bits of mining contracts. They've got their own pool details and seem to be doing a fair bit of cloud folding which leads me to think they at least have an actual business. You'll probably end up needing months to have enough hashpower to mine Bitcoin to meet their minimum withdrawals but if you don't mind spending a minute daily at no other risk to funds...

2. hydrominer. It's an ICO, one of two I am aware of resembling the cloud mining model, except they sell electricity contracts rather than hashrate. The business itself seems legit, and they're not hiding the locations or hardware specs of their rigs. Touting cheap renewable power in Europe, regulatory compliant tokenised model etc etc. Invest at your own risk, they start operations March 2018.
16810  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Question for LocalBitcoins.com traders on: November 06, 2017, 02:19:18 PM
Right, I guess not many LocalBitcoin traders are hanging around in this thread.

1. In case I misunderstood the question and OP is asking if prices are fixed on trade commencement: yes. Once you confirm to sell your Bitcoins, or buy them, the amount of bitcoins are immediately put in escrow hold and the buyer has to make the fiat payment at the rate of the trade. So that's locked in. I have noticed SOME abuse from traders here, given that they are allowed to cancel the trade since they are given a period of time to mark payment as complete. Some try to wait a little longer. If Bitcoin price goes up, they happily mark the payment as complete, and quickly sell off. If prices go the other way they cancel the trade. So I only trade with those I learn to trust and who honour the price of the trade.

2. If I understood the question correctly, OP is wondering how traders can leave trades open with running balances, go to sleep and not worry about price fluctuations, then it's because of they can set a running margin that adjusts to current Bitcoin market price. e.g. You can always set to buy/sell at -0.5%, the price will adjust. More advanced users can set a formula for price equation (I don't know how haha).

Lots of other options: you can set specific times, liquidity, min/max tx amount. Basically all aimed at automated trading within limits comfortable to you.

16811  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to verify my Bitcoin Core balance on specific date? on: November 06, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
The Bitcoin Cash (BCH/BCC) fork took place at block height 478558. So I imagine there is a way to check an address' balance at that specific height, if you were able to input address at that snapshot. Here's a temporary workaround:

1. This block was found at 2017-08-01 13:16:14:
https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000011865af4122fe3b144e2cbeea86142e8ff2fb4107352d43

2. Just use an explorer to input your address. The balance associated with that address at the time of snapshot should be easily calculated:

Current balance - Sum of all transactions confirmed AFTER the timestamp = balance at fork.

Assuming all tx inputs made and confirmed before timestamp.
16812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 06, 2017, 01:25:30 PM
Man City are simply unstoppable right now easily beating Arsenal 3-1, I was happy to win my best on over 2.5 goals and also that Man City won. Right now I can't see any of the other teams beating them. I was really hoping for Man Utd to score a goal in the Chelsea game as I had a bet on both teams to score, someone on here said Chelsea would win 1-0 so I hope they put a bet on that lol. I did okay betting on the EPL this weekend with Man Utd only letting me down not scoring a goal.

I'd never have taken above 2.5, even with the way City have been scoring, but I guess I keep underestimating their strike force. Maybe it really is as good as it looks on the GA box...

If you look at the next fixtures all the way to Christmas, there's also little hope in anyone catching the Sky Blues so we're just going to have to rely on them to trip up on their own. Not looking likely on the evidence of recent performances but hey, maybe Aguero experiences a drought or other cup competitions tire them out. Never say never. My plan is to enjoy the rest of the season with a surprise table after 19 games. Who likes a one-horse race, right?

16813  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do people think about Mcafee statement? on: November 06, 2017, 08:30:46 AM
Influence from seats of power only has that much effect when used sparingly. The fewer instances people use to say things, the greater their effect. Guys like McAfee have something to say all the time, often contradicting himself at intervals. He's about to launch his own ICO for his own crypto. Of course he's got to be insanely bullish to help nail down the momentum he needs for success.

@ladydark You're going to get a huge headache with no available treatment if you think the words of CEOs and people with positions of power cannot be left unaddressed. History is littered with a growing pile of statements from presidents and CEOs. Take everything with a grain of salt, enjoy the ride and make your own assumptions, come to your own conclusions.
16814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 06, 2017, 07:37:15 AM
Well, it wasn't my worst week but 50 points on 5 correct outcomes feels hollow, especially when 3 of them were off by a single goal. My position's still unchanged at 8th - well done to ajax for reclaiming top spot. My wish for City to go down to Arsenal didn't come through. Seems like City's finally overcome their would-be rivals (Arsenal and Liverpool) with pretty comprehensive scorelines.

Seven more games before the halfway line, just wouldn't be fun if that lead at the top stayed at 8 point by then. Unfortunately, the leaders have extremely winnable games in the next four coming up. So I'll let you guys know early I'll bet on a slim win for their next, and then draws for the following three =p
16815  Economy / Economics / Re: Are there any registered public co's accepting payment in bitcoins? on: November 05, 2017, 04:45:28 PM
Very few are actually accepting Bitcoin as payment. The mass majority of so-called "Bitcoin merchants" are actually accepting payments with Bitcoin. I know it's just semantics in the world of finance, but it's still a difference to me to accept actual bitcoins to the merchant's wallet and to accept bitcoin payments, that are processed via a third party, converted into fiat to the merchant's accounts. There are some downsides to using a processor, as I myself have found out: you have a limited window of time for your payments to go through, for example, otherwise the tx expires and you run into problems. The other is the extra fees and/or poor conversion rates that mean you pay premiums. I tend to avoid using Bitcoin at these.

If the latter interests you, then you just need to look at these 3rd party payment processors. The most popular at the moment are Coinbase, Coingate and Bitpay. The last in that list served a lot of online casinos. Access their merchant list and you have what you're looking for.
16816  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Japan ban ICOs? on: November 05, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
I have seen more and more ICO projects move towards incorporating in neutral- or crypto friendly jurisdictions (Switzerland would be top of that list right now) but is it really true Japan is another? I have seen only ONE Japan-based ICO in my entire time here - granted it was an obvious scam and long before regulations for exchanges kicked in.

I'd be extremely surprised if Japan were to make such a move. It's just incongruent with any of their previous decisions relating to crypto. But it's completely with the grain to expect ICOs to come under the same strict regulation as exchanges. It would also be the next logical step, if not the smart one to ensure Japan becomes East Asia's ICO valley.
16817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: enjoy and sochi tx spring 2017/30000 confi/how to get rid on: November 05, 2017, 01:26:56 PM
Every valid transaction in the network has a more or less equal right (no more priority if I am not mistaken) to get included into a block as any other transaction, dust or otherwise. The only thing that improves your chances of getting it confirmed quicker is the miner's fee included in the transaction, as most miners will choose to include txs with the highest fee per byte.

You can use the suggestion from HCP to avoid using those 1 satoshi inputs. Here are other considerations.

1. You mentioned that you have 1 satoshi each on the two addresses... if these addresses have no other inputs, then you just exclude those addresses when sending out the rest of your coins.
2. If you are consolidating your coins, like it seems you are, you may not actually end up needing to pay much more if you include the 2 1-satoshi inputs. I'm almost certain they're both about 450 bytes together... may not add much to your total, depending on the size of inputs you plan on consolidating.

If you tell us the wallet you're using, you'll get better help!
16818  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-11-02] Banks staying away from bitcoin 'bubble' due to money laundering on: November 05, 2017, 12:45:27 PM
This is rich, coming from Credit Suisse! Money laundering and tax evasion have been its chief headline-grabbing activities since the 1990s. We're not talking about chump change either, even if we only look at their latest scandal from April, they're guilty of assisting and abetting more than 50,000 accounts worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's an extremely lucrative business for banks like Credit Suisse - they've made a lot more than the $5 billion in fines they've already paid out for money laundering crimes. Even the combined forces of dark markets and bitcoin mixers would struggle to compete with the fiat turnover at CS.

The real reason Bitcoin isn't suitable for big banks is that it complicates money laundering.
16819  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [Exchange] GRAVIEX - Fee-free cryptocurrency exchange on: November 05, 2017, 09:59:10 AM
Well, thank you for your valuable thoughts. Truly appreciate that.
So, manual approvement is the temporary solution - we going to simplify registration process.

Concerning scaling - we know how and almost ready for that. Technically we can move to the load balancing cloud. More over in near future all of "our" services will be of distributed nature (exchange too). So, there will be no "owner" of any service in the GRAVIO network (or ecosystem).


Like I said, the more the merrier, and the healthier the wider ecosystem of exchanges. With more competition, exchanges will be forced to improve and outdo each other, and the Bitcoin user will be the one to benefit. Good that you'll move away from manual approval, though I can understand the need to do that for fair distribution (interesting airdrop concept, by the way).

Scaling on hardware/network is not really the problem. The human aspect, particularly customer support, is the scaling that none of the largest exchangers have ever tackled well. From Coinbase to Poloniex, they can easily upgrade servers but they have never been able to keep up with human aspects of customer support. So your distributed plans would bring Graviex closer to that of a dex, but you still need to think of tech support.
16820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League pool betting Discussion Thread on: November 05, 2017, 09:32:05 AM
I only got ten points this week. What a load of shit games. Did anyone else do much better? Group table hasn't updated yet but it has in your predictions tab.

30 points here for 3 correct outcomes. I had Liverpool down at 3-0 as usual so at 2-1 I already lost 30 points. I got the first game at 1-1 so thought 10 points was a good start. I even had three 1-0 predictions, all home victories for Newcastle, Southampton and Swansea. As it turned out, they all ended up as 0-1 losses. Funny yeah?

Also going for slim wins for the underdogs today, but well done to Supremo for hitting 100+points, see how things swing around so quickly?
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