I would say BFG and Stars. With staking these two we have passive income in BTC, ETH, and BNB. We receive some other coins as well, but I guess the best coins to hold for the next bull run are top coins, so you can simply exchange these ones for some top ones (USDT and TRX)!


Their site is pretty much the same as Betfury, and I think I saw they have a mandatory KYC... Is that true? Did you try them?

I believe you wanted to say "trusted wallet", not your keys not your coins! Platforms can collapse, so never hold big amounts there, FTX is not the first big exchange that went down the drain.

The winning strategy is investing in Bitcoin and holding it, the longer the better! I think some other coins are also great for long-term holding, we can underestimate the success of Ethereum, BNB, and some other great coins. We all know that these top coins (and some others for sure) have huge potential, so investing and holding them can pay out a lot one day, especially if we invest in them in these bearish periods.

How do you build a network of players without working casino? I guess building a network of investors is something else, but I doubt that all investors plan to gamble.


How to be a fan of something we can't even try, the casino isn't working yet... except that they have their own token and some airdrops for holders I don't see anything else on their site, except maybe big words and a lot of promises. I am not sure they are doing the right thing, gathering funds trough selling tokens and they promise there will be a working casino in the future? I guess we saw some similar "investment opportunities" in the past, and most of them turned out to be scams.

Shoot first, ask questions later! I think there wasn't a need for such harsh words, accusations, and threats! Surely there's a better way to draw attention to the irregularity and possible error of the casino, and BC already responded in another thread, they will fix it probably, they just need more time. Patience is a virtue, or it should be...

I am sure you contacted support Ptolemy, what did they say? I am curious, support sucks almost everywhere, underpaid people without basic knowledge about gambling, and what the word "support" means. In my experience, it's better to send mail and contact admins directly, support agents can be really annoying.

More than one account per IP address is breaking the ToS! It can be a grey zone in situations like this one, but a dedicated VPN will solve this, with some additional expenses of course. If you catch some nice holiday discounts (I saw there are some nice ones ) you can get one pretty cheap and be safe with everything you do in the crypto space cause I guess this is not just a problem with crypto casinos, many other crypto services have the same rule.

Well, I am not a high roller as well, so I think I would pass this "income verification" easily. By the way, this is the first time I see this type of verification needed in any crypto casino, but I guess by some "regulations" casinos can ask some players about the source of funds.

New casinos like new customers, but if they need to follow some rules it's not up to them whether will they accept all deposits without additional verifications. I wonder what can trigger this particular verification, and what needs to happen that will make a Stake team act and ask someone to provide proof o income...

I have a bet on Morocco vs Spain "both teams to score", Morocco showed they can play excellent football and I believe they can score against Spain as well.
Portugal and Switzerland will be a nice game, and I guess the chances for both teams to score are pretty nice.

Well, I like the odds and I decided to place a bet:


I also have a bet on Spain and Portugal qualifying... I am not sure if that will happen in the regular time. After all, Maroco is yet to lose during the cup, and for sure we can underestimate Switzerland.

It's a competition and if the competition requires buy-in and there is a prize for the winner (and/or for second and third place) we can call it "more serious competition with serious & skilled players". It's not about earning money, it's about participating and playing against good players, it's how you sharp your skills.


By these words every sport or every activity is gambling! Someone spends money (a lot of money) to learn and later earn some money (a tennis player or engineer), but the question is will he ever learn enough to be good enough to start earning from that?

More than once I wrote that gambling can be everything, when you invest yourself (in any way) and you hope for more you are gambling! But let's not be so tough, we can't classify everything like pure gambling, sometimes it's about the competition and learning more from participating.

I didn't see anyone mention Yobit in a while... From time to time I get some email from them, always with some crazy APY investment, I should definitely unsubscribe!

As others have said, Yobit is a bit shady! They are still in the business, we can wonder how and why, but if you care about your money this exchange should be avoided. For people who like to take risks with "crazy high" APY's and many pump & dump schemes, this is the right place.

Well, I had a feeling that both teams will score:


I won my bet, and I placed another one, "draw" in overtime at x1.75. I think we will watch penalties... I was thinking to combine "draw" with Japan or Croatia to win, but penalties are such a gamble!

And I have a bet on Brazil to win & over 2.5 goals, I even expect Korea to score, but I wasn't sure about that enough to place a bet on both teams to score.

Well, 87% of people placed a bet on Brazil winning, and only 13% believe that Korea can win. Everything is possible in football, Korea plays good football and I think reaching the 1/8 finals is already a success for them. But they got a tough opponent and I doubt that they will be able to match Brazil.

I agree with more markets there can be more fun, but there are many other places that are specialized in that. Freebitcoin is a little different and I like it.

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I also like some old street and card games, but the question is how provably fair these games can/will be. I guess we all know, or at least we have seen it in some movies, how people try to exploit vulnerabilities of some gambling game and how the "house" provides themselves a higher edge, there are tricks on both sides.

The bottom line is simple, nobody can grant you a "fair online street game". Why there is no online chess gambling?

We, fair players, are at risk if we have to go through the KYC procedure in each casino and leave our personal and sensitive info on each of those sites.
KYC is full of flaws, it didn't prevent money laundering and theft before, and it won't work now in the crypto. So I don't feel that I'm "more" protected if a site has mandatory KYC, and I don't think it's in the spirit of crypto.

The ideal KYC solution is what we have now, we can play without KYC in many casinos, and as long as we are playing fair nobody will ask anything. But suspicious activities should trigger KYC. Definitely, it should be clear what is "suspicious activity" is, we all know that some sites dispute big winnings that way and don't pay them out. Just saying that someone is suspicious shouldn't be enough, but even that is a tricky part because of confidentiality they can't share sensitive info. So whom to trust in the end if we don't know everything we need to know?

Halving is definitely a trigger, but big things happen only in a year after halving, so I think that 2025 has the potential to be a crazy year that will bring a lot of excitement. Until halving, I don't think we will see some bigger movements from this price, in both directions, and if it happens it will have a short breath. Of course, if history repeats itself once again, and many of us think it will, at least we think there are good chances for that.

He was active in Gosu chat on Telegram before, now he is probably active in the BC.game official group. "I Am Chris // (Only My Impersonators Ask For Money. Don’t Send.)" is/was his nick.


To be honest, I don't understand how you got excluded, and for what reasons, on the site and their social media channels! Did you try to contact support, you can share a conversation with them... together with other important stuff, like what really happened! Full story, not like this...

And there's a special section for making accusations: Scam Accusations!

When I had 14-15 years it was pretty normal to see a group of teenagers in some little casino. But those were different times, now the laws are much stricter. Now kids are looking for someone older who is willing to place a bet for them.

Surely our brain is still underdeveloped at that age, we have just started to learn about the world around us... and surely "forbidden things" are always more interesting and much more attractive. At that age "everything" affects us more, teenager's sensitivity which gets us into various problems and because of which we all made some mistakes (smaller or larger)... so it's the time when we start learning about self-control and responsibility.

The same thing happened to many other projects... it went into oblivion. I remember this project through a fog, as well as many other projects and their coins/tokens I had. After +8 years in crypto, it's hard to remember them all... or impossible is a better term here, there were too many of them!

Without some significant updates, and with a lack of enthusiasm from developers, any project is doomed to fail. I guess that happened with Bytecoin, as with many other projects.

If you're referring to the Betnomi poker series, I don't think we will see that again. As I wrote in their thread a few months ago, there is no more enthusiasm... It started well, some people decided to sacrifice their time to edit the spreadsheet for free (calculate points, follow every game even when they are not playing, and keep track of everything), with sponsorship the final table was more than +ev for those who qualified... Despite all the good things, there were not enough people interested!

I participated in the Betnomi poker series, and before that in the Bitcointalk poker series. The unique concept and some people made it even more amazing with additional stuff like free tickets, lottery tickets, kicking out a selected player for additional reward, and some other stuff. I don't believe we will have something similar in the future.

Edit: Oh, I made a mistake, I mixed Chips and Chipstars.

I read somewhere that Chipstars has its own token, I didn't get anything by playing, I am not sure if it works at all!

I have a few deposits/withdrawals from Metaspins, without KYC. And I can't complain about speed, they are quick!

Many casinos have a Curacao license and many of them do not require KYC, it's not like it's mandatory in every casino with a Curacao license.

What still confuses me is how I can play Pragmatic without a VPN only at Metaspins and Chipstars. Pragmatic was unavailable for me, and still is, in most crypto casinos! But I can play it freely in these two mentioned... I'm not complaining, I'm good with it, just wondering where's the catch, how is that possible?