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1701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: December 25, 2016, 12:41:35 PM
I want to know what you guys think about this, I have stopped gambling but still trade so does this mean I am still gambling?? I don't trade on basis of luck I trade using my skills would it still be considered gambling??

Please tell me what do you think.

in a way yes. but for me when you trade with research, this is smart gambling. unlike actual gambling where in mostly luck plays a big part, in trading, timing and experience are more important. although luck still is one aspect of it, you can cover for that with preparation and knowing about the movement of coins you're playing with. this is the kind of gambling that prefers skill and experience over chance.
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 50 Dollars a Day! on: December 25, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Hello,
If you wanted to make 50 Dollars a day what betting strategy would you take?

well 50 dollars a day would be pretty easy for betting on sports. specifically if you bet on the nba as there are a lot of games to choose from, some games even pit teams that are not at par with each other. though you may not win every single day, as there would be some upsets definitely, the chances of winning at least 50 dollars is pretty high
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 24, 2016, 05:49:43 AM
And it is more fun because you just click again and again whether you lose or not as long as you have balance in your wallet. It is also fun to see on how much are the other dicers are winning. Another factor that dice makes me happy also is when I see some gamblers who are winning big amount and I hope that it will happen to me also.
Yeah even if you lost and your sad. When you see someone who is winning big. Theres something in your part that makes you happy and keeps you on believing that someday you will win like them.
There are different kinds of persons, some are very envious and bitter and if they see something good happening to you they will not be happy at all instead they will be mad because they were not the lucky ones to win big.
Well to look at it that way, i see you have a point. I guess it's just about people's preferences and what makes them happy. I agree with what you've said here that people are different and that if dice doesn't sound appealing to me and a bit boring, poker and baccarat may be the same for other people. It's just about knowing what you want and enjoying what your interests are
1704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: December 24, 2016, 05:41:31 AM
No, not really since it's no-ones business and I tend to keep it pretty private. Also, I think that a lot of people around me also gamble from time to time, by playing the state lottery and buying scratchers sometimes.

I do agree that there is a bit more of a negative perspective surrounding gambling in a casino, whether is it offline or online.
Well that's the thing. You keep it private. That means you don't want others to know about it. Because of the negative perspective? Would you feel shameful if others found out?
Well it's pretty normal nowadays and a lot of people are gambling in the open so i don't think there's a need to be ashamed. It's even televised at times like professional poker games. Nothings wrong with it and why would people care anyways if you're a gambler or not. People have become a lot more open minded these times with topics such as gambling so you can openly say that you gamble at times without being embarassed
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: December 24, 2016, 05:30:31 AM
You know when to stop when you think that you have reached your limit, I think that is the mark you have to stop with it a certain time period it tham comes close.

Before starting gambling, people thinks that they can stop when they reach a certain amount of loss or profit but while playing it is a most difficult thing to do. That's why I always gambling with small fixed amount so no need to worry when to stop because if I loose that much money than I will stop gambling for that session.


Indeed they cannot stop because they want to win their money back that they have lost, this is happening a lot and due to this a lot of people also get addicted.
Yes, of course, when we lost is definitely the more curious to return our money. This will occur continuously so as to make us stop is very difficult and looks addicted gambler.
gambling is so much attractive that even after a worst lost people like to continue as to recover their money, and they continue it for the last moment when all the money we have in our pocket finished. some people even continue of loans or selling their stuff like shoes, chain, watch etc on the spot.

Yeah that happens a lot for addicted gamblers, sad to say. Having nothing left to bet, they start to loan or sell properties or borrow money just to sustain theor gambling needs which for me is a very disturbing behavior. It's already bad enough that you spent money that can be used for more important things but it's worse if you do it beyond your own means. There are even cases where people do illegal things just so that they can continue with gambling. I think feeling that urge to gamble all the time would already be reason enough to think about quitting
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 24, 2016, 01:10:57 AM
Made mistakes in gambling is very common for me especially when I felt so tired and didnt check my setting before click the roll button. Like when I wanted to do all in at 49.5% but instead of set the win chance to that percent I filled the payout text box with 49.5.
in fact i also made worst mistakes for several times. and still continue. some time i increase from my selected limit that cause me some extra lost. on other side some time in sports betting i do select a wrong team which also cause me lose money.

Yeah that's normally the common mistake people make when gambling online. We press the wrong keys due to being tired, or sleepy, or we' ve been on it for a long time that we mechanically just click away without checking. Although i don' t really consider a loss in sports betting as a mistake as there will definitely be upsets even if you choose a favored team or player to win so it's normal
1707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the difference between game and gamble? on: December 24, 2016, 01:01:54 AM
You make profits or losses from gambling as well as entertainment but games are only for fun and entertainment.

That's right and that is making a game medium for gambling because of the bets that you can made for each game that you will play. And in combination of both you are going to enjoy a game and with the chance of getting profit if you are will going to be that lucky.
yes game can only be a medium of gambling, as we put money the games we play, these game can be physical games as sports games and some other activities games but, but some games can also be computerized or non activity based games.

I don't really agree with this as when you say game, this is prettyuch a general term. There are a lot of games where you can earn that is not considered gambling. For example, players under contracts get paid. They play a game with monetary benefits. Gambling is a kind of game that uses chance and luck to pretty much determine the result most of the time. So with what you said, it's the other way around. Gambling is a medium while game is the general classification.
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there any gamble going on if bitcoin will reach 1000 before january 1 2017? on: December 24, 2016, 12:54:59 AM
A cool bet would be to bet if bitcoin will or will not reach 1000 before january 1 2017. Would you bet a yes or a no? I think I would bet like 0.5 BTC that we might see 1000, at this rate it's really possible.

Are those sites trusted to create a smart contract/bet?

https://bitbet.us/
https://www.betmoose.com/

There's already one going on on the first site but I think it's really conservative:

https://bitbet.us/bet/1344/bitcoin-to-top-1200-usd-before-january-2018/

At this point we might hit 1200 in a couple of days..

That's a good one. Me too, i'd bet as a yes. i think we may very well see bitcoin hit 1k even before the year ends. I checked the price last night and now after i read your post and as you've said, at the rate it's moving, we may even hit 1k in two or three days. It's nice to see how the price moved and went up the way it did this week. And i think i'm not alone in thinking that 2017 would be a very good year for bitcoin users Cheesy
1709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the location affect when we gamble? on: December 24, 2016, 12:28:44 AM
I think it does if you are talking about physically going to the casino, because I have seen people that don't even gamble at all, turn into gambling lunatics when they visit las vegas for the first time. They start gambling away like crazy and the fuckers just wouldn't stop and spend like 1 grand a night. I think it's all the flashy lights and hookers all over the place that turns them into reckless gamblers, if you aren't used to vegas it can be dangerous.

Good point there dude. The location's ambiance really affects people's moods and seeing all those festive happenings in casinos, especially vegas of course, would eventually bait you to shell out money to gamble. I've tried that the first time i went to a casino, as i only plan on watching my friends play baccarat but the longer i watch them playing and looking around the surroundings, i ended up losing almost all the cash that i had buying and losing chips.
1710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: December 24, 2016, 12:19:27 AM
Hey! guys i need your opinion and help because i didn't know about this trading thing i only know about how you can earn bitcoin by gambling but still my friend told me that gambling is not the way to earn bitcoin but if you try trading you will earn much profit why is that so guys? trading is better than bitcoin? how? why? where to find that trading thing?
ya i agree about statemant your friend that trading is better gambling .
for me gambling can spend all my money , because gambling is put all money with risk we get all or we dissapear all
but for trading there is risk too , if we lose do not spend all money
but to me i think it depend on the skill experience and even on the interest of the people. as to me i am interested in trading alt coins and difinantly i have more experience in trading alt coin than any other trading options, or gambling, although i also play gambling for making money but still i will like to add it is one of the most difficult way of making money ans there is always high risk of loosing your own money.

That's a good point actually. People have their own preferences and if you're interested in gambling more than trading then experience will be a big factor in determining which is better for you. A lot of people, in some way, have a knack in earning money from gambling like card games and betting games. They usually develop techniques through experience that helps them with gambling. Personally though i agree that trading  is better and losses can be more minimized if you do trading than gambling even if it' s a bit boring and less fun
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 207: Rousey vs Nunes Prediction and Info Thread on: December 24, 2016, 12:07:00 AM
Im gonna go for Amanda Nunez in this match. Shes more masculine than ronda rousey. Rousey will get knock out if she is not careful just like whats happen to her versus Holms. She knock her out with huge kick to her jaw. Nunez is no joke. Shes dangerous and more powerful in terms of striking. The chance that rousey will win this bout is very thin. If she use her wrestling skill well, theres a possibilty she will win this bout.

For me though, it seems that after that loss to holly holmes people started doubting what rhonda can do. She's been fighting and beating hard hitters before that loss and i think rousey still has a good chance in winning this one, that is if her confidence is back to where is was. It would be more on the psychological end i think. Although if she gets hit by Nunez, it's going to be retirement for her
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: December 23, 2016, 04:43:28 AM
It all depend on our struggle and our plannings for our life and our sincerity with our life after having these things we can get any thing in our life and can reach to any aim of our life while without these we can get nothing. So we do not have to depend on the sayings of other people like fortune tellers and have to spend our life.

Yeah, that is so right. We must not be so dependable on what other people say to us, even if it is a fortune teller. As i said, we are responsible for what will happen in the future and what may happen. I think fortune tellers just do things like that to make money, or they have really talent. But the thing is we dont need them to tell us what will happen, because we know to ourselves where we are going and what we will be doing in the future.
The reality is no one can see the future, only God can and fortune teller are not God. Just focus on what you can today as your effort will reflect in the future, if we study hard enough in gambling then maybe it will pay off in the future, it's not only luck that is important, we always have to consider the knowledge as that will give us advantage to be consistent in winning in the long run.
yes i am also agree with you, only God can tell the fact about our luck and not there fortune telling. therefore to me i do not believe on fortune tell adn palmist. i think you hard work and your experience can help you in making money in gambling.
LOL even of god knows when you'll be lucky, it's as if you're going to get a message from him telling you you're a lucky guy :p the point is we won't know. No one will realistically know when and how. Although some people are born with unbelievable luck when it comes to certain things like gambling, its still random. I also don't believe those fortune tellers would know when you'd be lucky as they should've checked their own lucks themselves first.
1713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If bitcoin prices rise up to $100,000, will you still gamble using bitcoins? on: December 23, 2016, 04:26:45 AM
When that time comes that the price of bitcoins will be $100,000 will you still gamble in casinos and sports books?

If the price of bitcoin is $100,000

0.001BTC/1mBTC/100,000Satoshi = $100
0.0001BTC/0.1mBTC/10,000Satoshi = $10
0.00001BTC/0.01mBTC/1,000Satoshi = $1

1 Satoshi = $0.001

Whoaaah definitely not. That's serious money and i can spend it on more important things than gambling. Even now i gamblr with minimal amounts of btc's but if it went up to that high, gambling with it won't even cross my mind. I might start doing serious trading and investments though but definitely not gambling. Well i wish we'd be able to see bitcoin reach that amount first and who knows it might Smiley
1714  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 23, 2016, 04:19:31 AM
Gambling is so addicting, because people see it as a game and they like it to do, but that is not good.
I hope that more people will realize that it is very bad to do. And that they will be poor with it.
Yes, when you do not have a reason to stop it once you have starting played it, if you loose you find a way to bet, and if you win, well you would call anyone stupid who ass you to stop on winning.
in fact when you feel it really hart do stop playing gambling then you can ay that you are addicted, as it urge you to continue so as to make money sure for this time, but if face the result mostly remain the same.

Yeah most hardcore gamblers are like that. Its already deeply rooted in their system that stopping would be very hard to do. Usually it starts with just the fun and enjoyment of it. When you win a couple of times then you get the feeling that you can earn real money. Then you'll start to lose and that's when things will get ugly. It can really be addicting and hard to control if you're the kind of person that enjoys taking risks. Not knowing what the results may be for the risks that you take. It makes gambling a lot more exciting for a lot of people.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: December 23, 2016, 01:55:26 AM
Dice games are fun but not for a long time they are only fun for a hour or so but not longer in my case, it just gets bored after a while.

Yep, they are for a short time period fun but after a hour I already get bored, I even sometimes the auto betting bot because of the fact it gets boring, I love other gambling games a bit more too because you need to do more things.

Yeah i actually agree with both of you. Dice is one of the easiest gambling games to understand and play but it's also one of the easiest and fastest way to lose money aside from the fact that the longer you play, the more boring it gets as you just stare, click and hope for a good roll. I'm not sure how other people could stay hours playing dice but for me, if i am to gamble, i'd prefer more exciting games than dice and there are a whole lot to choose from.
1716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 23, 2016, 12:27:49 AM
Nope, there are no safe methods to gamble and I even ask myself why people are asking this question every time because its just not possible, I think that is clear enough right ?
Well i don't really agree to that because gamblers are different from each other. Some gamblers know their limits and can control their gambling urges when they kniw they have to stop. So these gamblers are always playing it safe whether they win or lose. Like what i do, there's a specific amount that i allot for gambling and i make sure that whether i win or not, i don't go beyond that alloted amount. If i win at least 10-15% of the capital i brought that's enough for me and i stop. I think that's a very effective way of at least minimizing the money you'll lose. So there is a way of being safe when gambling, it's just a matter of self control dude
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: December 23, 2016, 12:20:36 AM
You know when to stop when you think that you have reached your limit, I think that is the mark you have to stop with it a certain time period it tham comes close.

Before starting gambling, people thinks that they can stop when they reach a certain amount of loss or profit but while playing it is a most difficult thing to do. That's why I always gambling with small fixed amount so no need to worry when to stop because if I loose that much money than I will stop gambling for that session.


Indeed they cannot stop because they want to win their money back that they have lost, this is happening a lot and due to this a lot of people also get addicted.

I agree to this. Winning or losing actually would just make you want to continue gambling. When you win, of course there's going to be this urge to continue playing to win more sinve you've already known how it feels to win. This is dangerous as this leads to being greedy and most likely you'd end up being broke. When you lose as well, it's normal to feel the need to play again until you win back what you've lost which is also dangerous as you have a bigger chance to lose more. Some people can't even stop even if they don't have anything to wager anymore. It's very hard to quit if you have little control over yourself so i think it's best to avoid gambling in the first place if you know you'd have a hard time when you're doing it already
1718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 23, 2016, 12:12:31 AM
Real gambling is just way better, it feels cozy and when you win your night cannot be destroyed anymore, with digital gambling its just behind your screen, boring.

I kind of agree to your point here sir as it really is different when you experience the feel and ambiance inside a real casino rather than just staring at your computer. The excitement and fun definitely is a of times more mingling with other gamblers personally. Although some people would prefer the silence of just being in their rooms as it helps them concentrate and focus on what they're doing. But i think for most people, if given the chance they'd choose to gamble inside actual casinos and this goes for me also
1719  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 23, 2016, 12:07:11 AM
well i think more than the monetary benefits it can provide when you win, which is not really as often as losing
Unless you set a really low multiplier (i.e. 1.01x), then winning will surely occur much more than losing.

i think it's the lessons that gambling can teach to those that already went and lost a lot. of course while you're winning, the only thing you can think about is the extra money you have and how to spend it. but losing in gambling makes you think about the more important things you could have done with the money you lost. it will serve as a lesson to a lot of people and i think that is actually a good thing. though some people are not really not that good in learning from mistakes so they end up losing a lot more.
I would seriously feel bad for myself if I would have to lose a lot of money from gambling before I can learn all those lessons. Those are basic things that you can learn throughout life with and without gambling. You can learn that literally by just searching for quotes about "regrets" and "mistakes". If you need to learn something like this to become wise or to become a better person, I would recommend buying good books instead of wasting your money in gambling. It would stop you from gambling as well.
Unfortunately some people need to get burn to get their lesson, some people learn by reading and absorbing the material in a book, some people learn by watching the mistakes other people make and avoiding them, but some people need to get their hands burned at the stove and some never learn.
Yeah i agree to this. Reading books  or searching online is just like listening to people blabbering about the effects gambling, you listen to them but you don't really mind what they're saying. Some, or most people that is, need to learn from experience, to know how it feels like to lose money to know the importance of having the right priorities. So it's actually a very good point that these lessons that we can learn from losing in gambling is beneficial to us to make us better in at least managing our priorities
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: December 22, 2016, 11:59:19 PM
yeah that's true, quit gambling should be done step by step as any addiction would never easy to even stay away. it's required a lot of time to make sure you are not addicted anymore. i just believe as long as you do continuously to pursue it, you would reach your goal to quit gambling.
It really takes time. It is hard to leave once you got addicted but there are lot of ways to get away from it. Staying away from it has a process even just little by little and you will realize that you are not addicted to it anymore. You need to sacrifice sometimes and choose the other way which are worthy.

Yeah its a lot harder to quit immediately as your body may react negatively to the sudden change especially if you're already that addicted and been gambling everyday. Just like with any other addiction, the best way would be to lessen it little by little everyday so eventually you'd be accustomed to it and you won't be craving for that feeling of wanting to gamble. It pretty much the same as trying to quit smoking or quit being alcoholic. It would be very hard at the beginning but it would be worth all the effort if you succeed
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