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1721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To all new coin creators. If we can't mine it we don't want it. on: December 30, 2013, 04:03:19 AM
Miners' attitude kind of drives away business, y'know.

Even making it darn near free for them to mine a coin doesn't get them on board so coming up with technology that does not need miners at all becomes a necessity.

Long long ago CDN, MBC, UKB, UNS, NKL and so on moved away from using blockchains - moved away from using/needing miners - because it became clear that even bending over backward to accomodate miners by making a coin capable of being merged-mined right alongside Bitcoin using the same hashing power the miner is already using was not going to work, was not going to adequately secure the blockchains.

Bending over backwards isn't enough for the miners, it seems; they require everyone to bend over forwards instead. So to speak. Cheesy

Miners evidently cannot be relied upon to do their part in securing blockchains even given merged mining; even though the marginal cost of merging a few more chains is almost negligible.

Miners thus became a big liability that blockchains accrue, making it more and more necessary to find alternative methods of securing ledgers / consensus.

-MarkM-

1722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP NEEDED TO CREATE AN CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 29, 2013, 09:15:03 PM
So you are looking to hire someone to clone NXT once NXT source code is released?

What is the 50 blocks thing about then?

-MarkM-
1723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP NEEDED TO CREATE AN CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 29, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
No one is going to be able to code your pure proof of stake if you refuse to explain how it works.

-MarkM-
1724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP NEEDED TO CREATE AN CRYPTOCURRENCY on: December 29, 2013, 08:03:50 PM
What pure proof of stake algorithm / procedure will you use?

Please link to the whitepaper detailing how it works.

-MarkM-
1725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BRANDING YOUR ALT COIN - Tips, Advice and Discussion Thread on: December 29, 2013, 07:59:40 PM
When Canadian Digital Notes (CDN), Martian BotCoin (MBC), United Kingdom Britcoin (UKB) etc were created the idea was that each and every nation in Freeciv would be able to have its own coin.

So that Japanese coin logo looks potentially useful.

Back then of course what the various jurisdictions on this planet might decide to say and do about blockchain based currencies was unknown, so relating them to Freeciv nations provided a way of getting them up and running in virtual universes without necessarily having to worry at that early stage about what people on the planet known as Earth might do or say about its validity, legality and so on.

Since Freeciv also allows nations to build markets, banks and stock-exchanges, I also got involved with Open Transactions, so that eventually players would have the option of actually utilising the markets, banks and stock exchanges that they build.

The big problem that was encountered though is that blockchains are insanely expensive to secure.

Even using merged mining it is really really expensive; to this day most miners do not merged mine at all, or if they do merge they only merge a few of the merged mined coins. Getting them to merge more would be extremely expensive.

Thus most of the coins moved away from using blockchains for now, instead using Open Transactions until such time as either blockchains become feasible to secure or some other technology comes along that is feasible to secure.

I have not been a big fan of domains though, since way way back when I offered on ebay, as a matched set, windows.com, windows.net and windows.org and got no bids at all. I still receive regularly from ebay a monthly "bill" showing they owe me $2.50 for failing to find even a bidder, let alone a buyer, for that auction...

I ended up letting those domains go.

-MarkM-
1726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 07:32:35 PM
Bitcoin premine: 4% or 8% if I remember correctly

None. It was mined at normal speed, by anyone who chose to, no GPUs or FPGAs or ASICs needed, having been announced well in advance and how it works described in a whitepaper.

-MarkM-
1727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
well 320 million on a totality of 13,5 billions is not muts, this coin [ EarthCoin]  is way better then bitcoin; the have only 21 million?

pre-mined yes but with a purpose :

promotions give away's atractive presents, good community overall a good coin with good chaces for the future i believe

All what we want is : speed ! right ? ;ighting speed transactions that all what we want becouse if we sell stuf we would like to have a direct payment right?


thats where earthcoin comes in .............!! the coin with future ........

Is there a ledger showing what the pre-mine has been spent on so far, and a budget accounting for what it is to be spent on going forward?

The reason I0Coin was created was that IXCoin had a pre-mine, and to this day that pre-mine is not accounted for...

People are still sitting around waiting for the developer to show up and pay off the various bounties they have earned and holding off on doing new things due to wondering whethr he will in fact pay them if they do work on the coin...

-MarkM-
1728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 07:27:48 PM
earthcoin transaction time is very fast , that is one of the major plus points for me.

How fast? Faster or slower than GeistGeld?

-MarkM-
1729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 07:26:44 PM
Well, it is rumored that bitcoin itself was also heavily premined (Satoshi and few friends/colleagues probably mined about 1M BTC in times when BTC was just some proof-of-concept code run by few crypt-experts) and despite that it was a big success. So I don't see that much problem in Earthcoin, considering quite large part of it was given away .... there is still risk of someone dumping large amount of coins at once and destroying the price, but in the past, bitcoin have always recovered from that and risen back again and even further, so I'll be optimistic Smiley

It was not pre-mined. It was announced long in advance, a whitepaper was published, then once the genesis block was created everyone was free to mine it if they chose.

It also was not insta-mined upon release either.

-MarkM-
1730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 07:24:40 PM
I guess it's like litecoin. Doesn't have true innovation (although litecoin was the first scrypt coin). But there's nothing that stops his coin from being really successful

Litecoin was the third scrypt coin, after Tenebrix and Fairbrix (both of which are still running, I think.)

-MarkM-
1731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DEV GENIUS WANTED FOR EXCITING & INNOVATIVE ALTS [Click Thread To View Coins!!!] on: December 29, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
The genius devs have already built the genius code under the hood, but are you capable of wrapping it in brands and skins and marketing campaigns that will make it catch on?

You don't need a developer, you just need a user interface editor, which, conveniently for you, QT supposedly has.

I have no idea what exactly it does, but presumably it aims at being like CSS is supposed to be on the web, an abstraction layer that lets graphic designers screw around with the cosmetics without needing programmers, code rewrites, and stuff like that?

A skinning system, or something like that?

If so you should be able to basically proceed through all the most well-established coins buying up some then releasing an awesome new theme, skin, logo and so on and so on, and make fortunes.

I'd still suggest that you start with Bitcoin, because if you double the value of a puny alt you make a few people a few thousand bucks richer maybe, but if you double the value of bitcoins you make lots of people a heck of a lot richer. So the scale of gratitude possible seems like it would maybe be a heck of a lot higher with Bitcoin.

Its about disposable income. Seems like a lot of folks playing with alts don't have any disposable income, and you'd have to multiply the value of their alt some massive number of times before they'd begin to come close to having some disposable income.

But with BItcoin tons of people have lots of disposable income and many many many more will have even if the value only doubles.

Even just doubling the value of Bitcoin would likely create many people who would be able to afford to pay the 3 bitcoins you want for branding an alt for hundreds upon hundreds of alts if proliferating umpteen alts is actually a good thing to do.

(I mean one person paying for umpteen brandings, not oodles of people able to afford one branding each.)

For example if you release a super-attractive branding of Bitcoin that doubles the value of bitcoins I could afford to buy a branding for each of the child chains that one merged mines alongside it. (That is to say, NaMeCoin, DeVCoin, GRouPcoin, IXCoin, I0Coin, CoiLedCoin and GeistGeld.)

-MarkM-

EDITED: Listed the child chains that are merged mined alongside Bitcoin.
1732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Resurrection from the Death: DOGECOIN is on his/her way to the moon!! on: December 29, 2013, 04:30:24 PM
Death? What death? When did DOGE purportedly die?

-MarkM-
1733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A great idea of Imagine coin ,may be Real coin : Imagine coin of world! on: December 29, 2013, 04:26:55 PM
If you don't think "Imagine" and "Mind Games" are or involve ideas, I pity you.

Do you live in an elevator, or CDs/DVDs don't come with lyrics and you can't make them out ?

-MarkM-
1734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is There Anything Fundamentally Wrong With EarthCoin? on: December 29, 2013, 04:16:28 PM
Actually that number of coins is I think maybe outside the safe range, there is an article somewhere pointing out that the numbers Satoshi chose carefully fit into the ranges of numbers various programming and script languages can conveniently work with.

Much more than 21,000,000 coins and something somewhere in some language or other breaks, kind of thing.

Unless you use less digits after the decimal point so as to free up more digits before the decimal point.

So if they have less than eight digits after the decimal it should be fine, assuming they chose the correct number of digits after the decimal to free up enough space before the decimal to accomodate that max number of coins.

-MarkM-
1735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alt Coin Scams - Quark, Dogecoin etc. on: December 29, 2013, 04:11:22 PM
It varies. If the coin wants to have a "how many in total have been issued so far" readout then yeah, problem.

(e.g. Proof of Stake coins, with their "money supply" readout.)

Coins based on Bitcoin though, like DevCoin, nothing in the code tries to add it all up, so as long as no individual transaction, wallet, or address has too many coins it should work.

Java, python etc programmers writing external systems to interface with it might have to resort to bignum libraries or something though.

Exchanges for example, how many exchanges written in PHP use some kind of bignum library?

-MarkM-
1736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: (IMA)A great idea of Imagine coin ,may be Real coin : Imagine coin of world! on: December 29, 2013, 04:02:07 PM
Playing those mind games, forever...

-MarkM-


hi  , Maybe you're wrong  ,we have a lot of ideas to cover those useless data  ,  blocks date trading date

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUfy_YBps

-MarkM-
1737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: (IMA)A great idea of Imagine coin ,may be Real coin : Imagine coin of world! on: December 29, 2013, 03:34:05 PM
Playing those mind games, forever...

-MarkM-
1738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: iXcoin Strategic Plan on: December 29, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
Supposedly the Buttercup or Butterball or whatever it was exchange software might not be just a free open source front end that requires their closed back end server to actualyl do the trades; someone said recently the server is free open source too.

If so then maybe that might be a good start for the exchange project.

-MarkM-
1739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: too many alternative coins on: December 29, 2013, 03:22:41 PM
And the pets! Poor little dogs and cats being exploited like that...!

-MarkM-
1740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NXT any different from Open Transaction (OT) server that issues 999M coins? on: December 29, 2013, 03:20:30 PM
Open Transactions already has a Java client, otapi-J.

NXT is a p2p network though, Open Transactions is server/client so far no federated servers yet for example.

NXT seems maybe more like Ripple, even down to having its own currency built into it like RIpple has their XRP.

-MarkM-
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