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1721  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Look, you guys win. I admit I like Rand. on: September 20, 2012, 05:44:28 AM
Ayn Rand : Jews are civilized and Arabs are savages

http://youtu.be/2uHSv1asFvU?t=38s

Yes, Rand had some pretty idiotic opinions. Thankfully, her philosophy was not based on opinion.

Right, because there is such thing as a philosophical fact.
1722  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scammer- Jonathan Ryan Owens on: September 20, 2012, 05:06:07 AM
Let this be a lesson to all those make a bet or loan money to someone who goes by all three of their names. These people are not to be trusted!
1723  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Look, you guys win. I admit I like Rand. on: September 20, 2012, 04:47:34 AM
Thoughtful piece on Rand in the 20th century:

http://thoughtmaybe.com/all-watched-over-by-machines-of-loving-grace/
1724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 19, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
1725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 19, 2012, 04:26:42 AM
10% per month seems about the right level of growth right now. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg60zigHourlyztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

I'm expecting some pullback around 15 again
1726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Qt/bitcoind version 0.7.0 released on: September 18, 2012, 05:07:08 AM
Thank you guys!!
1727  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Basic income guarantee - opinions&criticism welcome on: September 18, 2012, 03:54:27 AM
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No.  It is really much more complicated than that.

Money is really not just some tool invented to motivate people.  This basic income concept is not just some moral issue.
...
Sorry but imho money is exactly that or, at the very least, has been turned into just that. The protestant work ethic has ground that in for generations and many folks believe work it's the whole point of life.

Don't get me wrong, this is one of the things that built the foundations of the modern world. We're not at the foundations any more though, the walls are up, the roof is on and a fully automated vacuum cleaner pops around once a day to scare the shit out of the cat. We don't need the work ethic any more and keeping it is tying up a huge amount of work in doing pointless tasks just to keep the system it ran on running.

We're only getting started, the Victorians where changing the world a lot quicker than we're doing now. Our labour force isn't producing, new ways of pushing around bits of paper are being invented to tie it up because everything would collapse if people didn't have jobs, right? All these forms, taxes, regulations, hoops to jump through, they create prosperity, right?

Our hands and feet are tied, our new phone has a little blue light the last model didn't have so we think we're making progress. The reality is we haven't made anything much new in the last half century, we've just improved the stuff we already had. The Victorians had countless crazy ideas and investors crazy enough to back them, the second world war brought another huge leap in technology from another deranged set of investors. Free up the minds to have crazy ideas and free up the money to back them, a bevelled rectangle with a shiny front face is not innovation.

/endofthread
1728  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Basic income guarantee - opinions&criticism welcome on: September 18, 2012, 12:49:54 AM
Basically it boils down to this:

Do you want to have people motivated out of fear for their own survival so that they produce enough (& continue the GDP train)?

Or do you want to have people driven by their desire to build something new, beautiful, amazing?

In the first example, you will continue as we are - with all of the issues surrounding this.
In the second example, you provide the possibility for people to make something amazing. YEs, that means that for the first few months/years people will probably just fuck off and party. But then as it always does, it gets boring. People will put their creative drive into something that they want to bring about. This isn't just some wishful thinking BS, there are studies/ books written about our conception of human motivations & output and the realities.
1729  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is going to succeed, ... on: September 16, 2012, 06:49:58 AM
All it takes is 15 to 20 percent adoption and it takes off, as in unstoppable.


Awesome, all we need is 1 billion people to start using it and we're set!  Cool
1730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 14, 2012, 08:25:08 PM

OMG OMG OMG!

I knew it.

its over no more bitcoin to be bought at this level.



Dump alert:  could fall as low as 10$,   Place your bids!

1731  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin is going to succeed, ... on: September 14, 2012, 06:33:42 PM
Steven is the man!
1732  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone or some group is disturbed by Bitcoin. Vandalism on Wikipedia. on: September 14, 2012, 06:29:45 PM
Wow there are alot of nutjobs in here.
1733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 14, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
Someone is hungry and impatient















and i like this someone.
1734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 14, 2012, 05:44:22 PM


Wall Down!
1735  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the best way to acquire 1 million dollars worth of bitcoins? on: September 14, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
it turns out pirate was able to fill my order.   Smiley

Not funny =P
1736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Italy to ban cash transactions over €50 in 2013 on: September 14, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
The law is a bit messy to be onest: in fact the text say that a shop is forced to accept an electronic payment for every transaction over 50€ if the customer request so, not that is banned the cash transaction in se.
The big trouble is that POS in Italy will cost a lot of money to shop, specially for little ones (something in the 20-40€/month + a fee for every transaction from 2 to 4% for bancomat and up to 5-6% for credit cards,). A small shop will don't survive all that added costs (in some cases the fees will be higher than the earnings: on a phone card sold at 50€ there will be less than 0,5€ of margin but 1€ at least of fees, so for a PC sold at 500€  on wich there is a 60-70€ of earning but 10-20€ of fees).
Big shops and supermarket have a big discount on fees (usually the pay a fixed monthly fee so the higher is the volume of money cashed by POS the less it will cost for every € processed): is a kind of law written to help banks and big owners (the fact that our prime minister is a member of Bildberg Group and is a Goldman Sachs advisor and Moody's one it's just a coincidence )

I feel sorry for you.
1737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone or some group is disturbed by Bitcoin. Vandalism on Wikipedia. on: September 14, 2012, 08:09:02 AM
Tell me, why are people so bothered by Bitcoin now?

These people hate Bitcoin for the same reasons they hate gold, Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, and libertarians.

They know they are second-handers.  They know they are parasitic leeches.  They know they are useless tax eaters, living off the productivity of virtuous rational value holders.

They hate anything and anyone that threatens to dispel the illusion that they are moral, and superior to their betters via the sanction of the victim and death worship of altruism.

They know their time is limited, and the day of reckoning draws nigh.  They know they will perish when the IRS agents' US dollar paychecks cease and the welfare checks stop.

They hate this reality, and will strain with every misguided ounce gram of self-preservation to prevent or delay the inevitable.

They are ashamed of their own worthlessness, and have created this entire world order dedicated to hiding their shortcomings behind a tissue of lies and a wall of coercion.



B I T C O I N T A L K

LOLOL
1738  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Italy to ban cash transactions over €50 in 2013 on: September 14, 2012, 07:55:48 AM
No fucking way this passes.
1739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Israelis want Obama out of office; prove Obama's birth cert. is a forgery. on: September 14, 2012, 07:53:06 AM
This is fake as hell. And even if it was real, who the fuck cares.
1740  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is the best way to acquire 1 million dollars worth of bitcoins? on: September 14, 2012, 01:25:13 AM
  Tell Bernanke to announce QE3. 

That happened already (today)
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