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1721  Economy / Reputation / Re: My apology to all. And please read the whole post before you do anything. on: January 25, 2023, 02:33:51 PM
You are trying to prove yourself. I already told you to stop it. Nothing is going to help you right now, I wish it would though. The best course of action for you to start doing the things that leaves a legacy for you and others can admire you for it. The tags, doubts, confusions; everything will disappear in time. But the harder you will try to clean yourself now, you will find your are in more trouble.

Right now you are already gave a lot of information about two people on your above post which may be embarrassing for them or they may not like it if they discover it at any time. To clean your mess you can not do this to others.
1722  Economy / Reputation / Re: Admins, ban jollygood and scamvirus on: January 25, 2023, 12:23:06 PM
Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate.  Let's start working with it first before anything else.

I am not taking the opposite side, in fact I will want you to get the tag removed but you need to first prove yourself that you deserve it to raise a voice for you.
1723  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 25, 2023, 12:12:39 PM
How about some smart ass developers out there create the device instead? i personally feel that if the game providers develop the device required for checking RTP, what is the guarantee that they wont be accused of developing the device in a way it will favor them and their business?
They can't

Why? it's a business scheme and most of provider will always closed their source code. If anyone, know their source-code there could be have some leaked hacked to their game. That's why, I the suggested only can be made by the provider.

Imposible for individual person, because they will never share the source-code.
In gambling industry a small mistake, leak of information can cost million for sportsbook and casinos. Most of the time the providers really don't care even to check if the mistake was from their client's side or their own side unless the client is big. So when a mistake happens a casino takes all the hits. Provides are always out of reach. Even in the forum you will see there are many scam accusations and all of them are against the casinos and sportsbooks. But if one dive into deeper then in many cases we may find the issue was created by the provider but no one question them. Even the casinos justify a case depending on what the providers are telling them.

Hey Stake guys, I just want to know one thing...  Who's Kevin from finance?  :/
It must be Kevin Hart 😉
1724  Economy / Gambling / Re: 4CryptoBet New Online Crypto Casino and Sports Betting! on: January 25, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
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I logged in your site other day and could not understand how the sports section works. I was looking for football matches especially premier league but it all was confusing to me. There were like three section or something. May be you need to improve the user friendliness.

For the record, my intention was not to gamble but to check the system.
In order to view the features for now, you must be logged in. This is something we are working on improving, but as of now this is how you can view our different features we offer. It takes no time at all to register. Register and check it out, leave your feedback.
I was logged in, in fact I wanted to deposit some money (good that I did not, I am not in gambling for years now and don't want to restart it any sooner) to try the system. On your last free promotion I registered to join the promo but obviously did not win as it always happen with me (except somehow few weeks ago I won a bitcoin prediction game), it was a continuation from there. I was actually looking for a handicap market but could not find it even did not understand how to find the upcoming match and their regular markets too.

I used to be a gambling addict so gambling sites, and how they functions are pretty known to me but unfortunately your one was too difficult to navigate and understand. Sorry, my intention is not to criticise you but to help you understand as a potential client what was my first experience.

Registration without giving an email was a great experience by the way.
1725  Other / Meta / Re: Forum activity by year - Chart 2009-2022 on: January 25, 2023, 11:29:02 AM
Any theories?
It all started from 2017 ICO season and then when BTC and ALT started to deny the market after early 2018 then everything started to slow. ICO investors lost their money and the teams were becoming millionaires. Crypto for individuals at it's worse time I think was in between 2017 - 2018. But overall the publicity and media coverage increased as a result many people heard about it. From 2019 to until now it seems things are stable. Even last ATH did not make any major impact 
1726  Economy / Reputation / Re: My apology to all. And please read the whole post before you do anything. on: January 24, 2023, 03:22:52 PM
That alternate account belongs to my sister. It's Tanvi50_. So technically it's not mine, but I do have access to it.
What you did is done. You may did one or two mistake or many mistakes but when you had the gut to admit it, I will consider it forgivable. When someone seek opportunity, I am all to give it. If it is first mistake then they get second and may be third chance. But if it was not first mistake but after many mistakes they realized they need to make themselves clean then you have the last chance.

There are many mistakes you did so far. Some may be unknowingly and some willingly. The sent merit to your sister (if it is) then may be a mistake before you realized, As you said you never did that again, good. But the contest was not a mistake. And some other also were not mistakes. You continued because you thought you are not going to get caught. But since you are now under the net, it worth to see what you do after. If you can prove yourself a word keeper then no harm is going to happen. Even if anyone tag you now eventually they will remove it. But if you do the mistake again then I think everyone will realize that you did not learn anything.

By the way, sending merit to wife, child, brother, sister, girlfriend, boyfriend, sexfriend, analfriend, nanny, granny, cat, dog, lion, tiger are not prohibited. It's only discouraged as long as it's your own sMerit. If you were a merit source then it was a different discussion. However the community have a standard and from that standard sending merit to your alt is not something everyone will look from a white area.

Leave the board and stop responding everything. You have nothing to prove now, your action will speak in the future. Accept whatever happen now but make sure next time you are not in the mess again.
1727  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Bitcasino.io 💜 — Bitcoin Predictor January 🚀 Top 3 gets 5 mBTC each 🎯 on: January 24, 2023, 03:03:28 PM
€21,130
Username if win LOL
1728  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🦊 Betnomi.com | Sportsbook & Casino 🎲⚽ on: January 23, 2023, 07:32:42 PM
I warned many times to stay away at this scam site.
Your way of labeling every casino as scam site is the reason no one takes your claims seriously. Your history tells that you have a tendency of hating the forum members and hating casinos which ultimately earns no value for your voice even if it is correct. People just don't give attention to you. May be before anything else you want to work on your own personal development first.
1729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Doxxed team can help a new gambling platform? on: January 23, 2023, 07:16:52 PM
All owners and partners do KYC, just not to you or any of their clients. They do it to the government agencies that register the business and give it a license to operate.
As far as I know you need to do KYC when you need the license for the casino. So with the licensed casino at least you know that you can file a complain against them to the license provider. It's up to the license provider how they judge the merit of the competence. Most of the time they don't care about hearing clients because the casino is important for them not the clients. After all the the casino is giving them the money they need.

Indeed, a doxxed team doesn't guarantee that they won't do anything to screw up their investors or players.
The most legit and profitable business with most transparency today can bankrupt tomorrow. When you are letting others to handle your cash it's not yours until you have it in your wallet.
1730  Economy / Reputation / Re: Trust setting replica with reasons on: January 23, 2023, 07:01:48 PM
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~icopress // Not nice use of feedback to another campaign manager who was a victim.
Removed. Good to see you did the right thing.
1731  Economy / Gambling / Re: 4CryptoBet New Online Crypto Casino and Sports Betting! on: January 23, 2023, 06:54:17 PM
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I logged in your site other day and could not understand how the sports section works. I was looking for football matches especially premier league but it all was confusing to me. There were like three section or something. May be you need to improve the user friendliness.

For the record, my intention was not to gamble but to check the system.
1732  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: This Smells Like Hypocrisy on: January 23, 2023, 04:01:16 PM
To me, this seems hypocritical. You claim that gambling is illegal, but you may bet on horse racing, Pachinko, bicycle racing, boat racing, and Mahjong, which baffles me. I do not seem to understand. Why is that so? You claim it is unlawful, yet wagering on games that are overseen by the government is not unlawful. Is this not hypocritical? What does the government fear?
It's beyond the understanding of what the fear but it's hypocrisy. I think people who bet on horse racing or greyhound are the actual gamblers. They don't do it for fun but to make money. May be these are the sports they watch and do more than the regular sports like Football, Rugby, Boxing, Tennis etc.  

but Japan is interesting and unique with how they deal with money. Their saver culture is basically the opposite of what we have in America, and I could see how gambling runs contrary to that saving culture.
Add China, Korea. They all have very different culture, economical view and perhaps political view hen the West. China is obviously above them all. They don't even want to merry someone who is not from their race LOL (No offense Japanese, Chines and Koreans 😉 )
1733  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: January 23, 2023, 03:41:28 PM
Unfortunately, this is not 100% correct information. RTP can be adjusted and that is why different casinos have 1-2% difference for same slots by same provider, casino can decide which option is best for its own advantage.  Negative thoughts is caused by house edge which is unbeatable in the long term, as explained before players can't beat the casino but player can.
Not entirely sure but when a casino is using a game provider then RTP and such things are not in casinos control. The provider adjust it depending on the game. The casino is only responsible to bring clients in their platform and let the clients to play. Bet history and everything else except customer management are done by the provider.

These days unless you are a big casino, you can not afford your own system. You are just using others API. I guess bet365 are big enough to have their own game engine and sports engine. I could be wrong.
1734  Economy / Reputation / Re: A theory, DT in/exclusion and eventually the DT network on: January 23, 2023, 03:27:38 PM
Default Trust should sense as default trust not something earned easily by just being scam buster or alt hunter.

this statement can be the opposite of itself. if someone has become a good scam buster and tagged suspicious accounts, is it not desirable to add such a member to DT, if nothing for better visibility of his feedback?
You are probably right that it is too easy to reach DT status, it certainly happened that a DT member did not leave a single feedback while at the same time opening new alt accounts to make a scam accusation. or they even wait for older members to express their position in order to adapt to it.

isn't the DT system overrated? what does DT power bring and why is there so much drama about it?

I wanted to bold that just to be a scam buster and alt hunter may not deserve a place in DT system. DT should be more than that. I understand the point of their feedback visibility but it also makes it easy for them to manipulate it. They know scam busting and alt hunting is easily earning them a DT status and the result is so many of them made it a profession while it was supposed to be a hobby. The full concentration seems to be in earning inclusion and receiving feedback.

Send 10 positive feedback to 10 users who you think is good for you if one of them send you a feedback back and include you in their trust list. Continue it for several cycle. You have good number of users who have you in their trust system and you are going with so many green feedback that you look like a highly trusted user in the forum. But ultimately it was earned by execution of a good plan. Forget about to be in the community for 5 years, a six months or one year old user is doing it easily. Do we remember the user theyoungmillionaire and some others who eventually scammed but they were looking like the future figure of the community.

The drama? My guess is, it will reduce dramatically when ignore list and trust list will never be accessible by the user himself. I think most of the drama is around for these two features of the forum. However I think we can not do anything about it. It's a thing we need to enjoy.
1735  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: January 23, 2023, 03:08:30 PM
Indeed, since Mane's departure from the club, Liverpool has struggled to generate the usual goalscoring chances and win-win situations And he couldn't achieve that. However, Liverpool is able to return to compete for titles in the coming seasons.

Today we have a match for the city against the wounded wolves; if the wolves continue to lose, they will fall further down the standings. The city is also threatened by United and Newcastle; if Pep fails to win today, the indicators will shift.

Mane was lucky for us I guess. I don't know if you noticed but we used to get lucky all the time. Last minutes goal or goal before few minutes ago was a regular thing for us. In sports skills does not always works, luck play a vital role too imo.

City had 3 - 0 win, Wolves were not a threat for them.
1736  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Doxxed team can help a new gambling platform? on: January 23, 2023, 02:26:53 PM
Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?
It's the question you need to ask who are providing license to them. May be they are KYC verified. There is also the fact of trust too. Normally popular Casinos have already built their trust in the industry, they are paying gamblers for years so no one question the team behind them.

Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
It surely will be but when you are in crypto it's not always a good idea to public your identity. Crypto is not still officially legal to many country. Law will change and it will effect you. That's the risk.
It will affects the likes of Vitalik Buterin, and others that come out to the public like Cardano CEO for example? Or that's because these projects are Centralised projects?
Not everyone feel safe to talk about crypto in public. It's a choice they make, most of us on the forum made the choice. Others should be respectful to it.
 

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Can a crypto gambling project be centralized? If a crypto gambling team decides to remain anonymous then why are they requesting KYC from their users? They understand what anonymity means and users wish to remain anonymity as well. They remain anonymous only yo collect users KYC details. Well thank you all for opinions.
They are not asking you to gamble with them. You are going there by your choice. You have options to avoid them.
1737  Economy / Reputation / Re: A theory, DT in/exclusion and eventually the DT network on: January 23, 2023, 01:09:43 PM
I think that the bigger problem is laziness together with the fear of offending. Pus maybe also the hopes for inclusion (back-scratching is real). Many people should watch closely their trust lists and adjust it. But this means some work to do, this means that some people may get offended because they notice you no longer trust them or even distrust them, this means that your own DT status may suffer.

Laziness : I am guilty of it too. I do not update my trust page very often. Don't know if updating it often will do any difference too. Well obviously when something happen like Yogg did then you remember that you have something to do or when you notice someone is highly abusive and it's an obvious without any doubt.

Fear of offending: I never felt that way. I think none should do. When anyone cares about the other then instead of only ~ him/her, have a discussion with him. Let him know that you are doing the ~ and when you will see he is improving in the matter then you will remove the ~. The receiver should not be offended if the attitude is correct.

The hopes for inclusion: This is evil and I think these are the ones who have plans like I said in the OP. We need to be careful from them who has good plans to have a place in the DT system. Unfortunately many if not all (of course not all) who were effected by the merit introduction and then found a way from the Default trust change, started to use the system in hope for inclusion. The theory.

Your own DT status may suffer: Once we will not think about what we are gaining from it, I think that time we will enjoy the best benefit from the current system.

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Plus, and I feel this important: there is (currently) no tool that could allow one trust certain people's old trust ratings without giving them the same powers from now on. And this, together with the laziness I've said about, create some sort of vicious circle.
May be the whole trust and ignore list should not be accessible even by the member himself. Have button like ignore. Trust/Distrust. When you feel you want to add someone then press the Trust button, when you feel you want to ~ someone then press distrust button. But don't give the list like right now we have trust list and ignore list. Unfortunately we all know Theymos is not going to do anything sooner so let's leave it out from the discussion.

Oeleo (i can't really type his name on mobile) gave a nice summary: DT is a mess! I try to do my share in educating people, and once in a while point out the worst use of inclusions, but it doesn't change the bigger picture because the system itself is flawed. If too many people use it in the wrong way, the few users who use it correctly don't matter anymore. Maybe that's just how democracy works....
DT is a mess but the whole point I am trying to finger is, we need to be careful when we are adding or removing anyone in or from our trust list. When anyone is very keen to be in the system and seems like planning for it then give them time. Also check their history like when they joined the forum, what motives they have when they are engaging in conversion, are they genuinely saying whatever they write in different topics and many more indicators which could only can be felt.

Default Trust should sense as default trust not something earned easily by just being scam buster or alt hunter.
1738  Economy / Reputation / Re: A theory, DT in/exclusion and eventually the DT network on: January 22, 2023, 11:07:16 AM
Why don't you explain the names? To avoid drama?
I can tell that they don't know about it at all and it's clear on my description that I don't want anyone to think it's a personal discussion or attacking an individual. I understand your reaction as by theory you are one of them. But my justification is not for an individual rather it's for a group. Do I think you are in the group? May be yes may be not. The same way the individual who sent me the PM should also understand that it's not addressing him personally nor it's about the person addressed in the PM.
1739  Economy / Reputation / A theory, DT in/exclusion and eventually the DT network on: January 22, 2023, 10:43:24 AM
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Do you think you're any different from the people who put a neutral tag on any chance they get? You're doing the same thing with your ~

Good luck on your quest for a flawless DT.

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Good luck adding everyone who adds ****** to their trust list to your ~list. Hahaha, everyone knows what you're doing, so no one cares... Your ~ is a drop in the ocean.
It's about the topic Trust setting replica with reasons and complain (or may be it's a demand) from a user who have ~ from me.

I don't want anyone to think it's a personal discussion or attack to someone. It's not, I had to asterisk the user mentioned. One of the forum member left me (so far two) the above PMs questioning my motive to have him ~ in my trust list. It turns out he is upset about it. Clearly the politeness is fading behind the upsetness.

There are many members I noticed lately too serious about their DT status. They look at every single inclusion and exclusion as if their DT status is in stake. They feel they have nothing left in the forum when someone just added a ~ for them. Many may call me crazy but I noticed this habit to the users who joined the forum from 2017. I have a theory about it.

In January 2018 we have merit system implemented. When it did, the members from year 2017 were mostly effected. Many of them were at Member or Full member rank but a sudden change in the ranking requirement gave a break to them. A totally new idea. Before it used to be making post and earn activity, rank up. No one cared what they were posting. All they needed is the activity to become high rank. But when merit system introduced these members started thinking how to get those merits.

Then the change of Default trust system. A new motivation for some members. It's easy to become a default trusted member. Hence some easy and simple strategy they adopted were/are:

1. Scam busting : They made it full time job. There were not a single day you would not find someone is not posting a topic against an ICO or a website or anything they found in internet because some website have fake photo, white paper copied, clone of other websites. All were just in a nice format. Just change the name and new accusation posted. Good scam buster.

Result is quick. They earn merit and they started to get attention from the members. Many of them started to add them in their trust list.

2. Merit hunting : Again a full time job for some users. Constantly stalking users to find merit abuse. Usual or unusual, whenever they saw someone sent merit to others they started questioning about it. New topics, arguments, divided into two or more groups. Earn merit and get into the DT system.

3. Alt hunting: Two indicators they use mostly for it. Merit sending and wallet connection. Another daily job for these group of member. Result is awesome. Earning merit and added each others in their trust list.

While these users were doing all merit hunting and DT status planning, they basically isolated themselves in a group. A group of people who support everything they do between each others and justify it. They also set up a dangerous mindset that they like to think in everything there have a fishy reason. Harassing newbie to old OG members as if they are some sort of powerful authority in the forum now.

One thing is common to these users now and you can easily find them. When they rank up to their desire rank they slow it down. A newbie or a full member who used to create a scam accusation topic almost daily or fair to say 3 to 4 times a week, she/he does not even make posts in scam accusation board that frequently. Looking at their post history you will easily realize they are making 3 to 5 lines of one paragraph and posting it everywhere.

Those members from 2017 and later who are in the DT system, they care too much about the DT system, result is all these drama when we see someone is distrusting. You distrust someone for some reason, you are in their hunting list.

I agree with nutildah in a topic where he wrote something about users from few years ago to be in DT do not look good or something. In my opinion the batch we created from 2017 are mostly the ones who are harming the current forum environment. They are now too hostile to members that we now do not see many brand new face joining and staying in the forum. All those brand new accounts who made it there are mostly alt accounts of a spammer with a new identity.

May be the Bot can have a statistic to demonstrate the users behavior before and after 2017?

May be we need to be more careful from today before adding anyone in our trust list especially if they are too quick to have their DT status. The good one takes time to earn rewards but the one with good plan makes it easily. We need to be careful about those who have good plans.
1740  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: January 22, 2023, 09:18:51 AM
In a single season we managed to turn from one of the most exciting teams to watch to one of the most boring ones.
Today was unbearable, so many mistakes and a general lack of courage, tempo and flair.

Whoever we put in midfield doesn't do a job for us - we will have to revise that part of the team in the summer.
You are talking about Liverpool? I guess so.

I lost my excitement from the season. Liverpool is losing their chances to be in the CL, forget about to be in top 2nd or top 3. Good thing that I don't gamble these days or I would lose a lot of money and would be in more frustration.

My collection from yesterday is 3 points and I missed to pick a winner in the Liverpool vs Chelsea. Even if I would then I would go for Liverpool so the result does not change anyway.
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