This makes me quite bullish
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strong bounce.
now back to bear business as usual.
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This will only turn around when every one of you loses complete hope....there is no pretending, the universe knows when you are faking it.
There can only be new hope when old hope no longer remains.
in a year or two. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Paypal(Ebay), Expedia, Square, Dell, Dish, Overstock..
If people don't see what's coming they deserve to lose money
More merchant adoption? More merchand dumps! No ability to think ahead? Congrats..you're officially retarded hm. I think that market is already thinking ahead by dumping en masse.
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Right well that wasn't particularly impressive. Keep up the sterling work forum manipulators! Especially you exocytosis.
I'm just stating the facts. Facts that everyone can observe if they glance briefly at the price development and statistics of user adoption. You don't like the facts? Well, tough luck, because this is a free market, ruled by the simple law of supply and demand. That's why the price will continue falling. Because the price doesn't care one bit about the hopes and delusions of cultists or permabulls. At the moment the market is ruled by parasites, it will go back to being ruled by supply and demand when they leave. I like you, honestly, but I was tweeting exactly the same things when 266 burst... Parasites will never go away, because many reasons - I will post when I am not depressed (cryptos are my full time job, I want BTC only UP UP UP). parasites? what is next? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whale.to%2Fb%2Fzyklon.jpg&t=663&c=XEESN4MxbEUWVw) speculators are doing a great job on price discovery. you should thank them.
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If the price will not start to raise, and I mean REALLY raise, and REALLY soon, then it's game over. Just think about that.
It's game over for "get rich quick" kids. Bitcoin will be just fine if the price stays at $300 for a few years, just this thread will lack nonsense posted regularly. I am sorry to say, but you don't understand: if price goes down to $300, that will not be a stop. It will just generate another wave of people who will loose their faith in Bitcoin, another wave of people who will understand that the bubble period is over. All these will generate another wave of price going down, which will generate... I am sure you see the cycle here. There is only ONE chance to save Bitcoin only: price has to start to raise, and I mean REALLY raise, and REALLY soon, otherwise it's game over. No, you don't understand. There's a limit how much price can go down. Bitcoins are not produced out of the thin air, expensive electricity is invested to support the network. The supply can't get bigger after the price get's down to cost of electricity to produce a new BTC. After that point we enter the stability at the bottom, when it doesn't matter if someone is disappointed or not. very noobish and not true. price can go down to 0. if it is too expensive for you to mine - then gtfo and shut down your miners.
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Crash coming.
Go for it guys. Short up, sell your stash (oh wait we know you already have). Lets see the epic crash unfold. Back in reality it's a slow sunday with virtually no volume whatsoever. This move is meaningless. breaking support at 395 with this kind of volume is a strong buy actually.
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too much talking
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not enough buying
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dip incoming
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Interesting, thanks. Nothing new though, disinformation is all through history. The Luddite movement is a good example, as a movement the Luddites had nothing against technology, their fight was with the owners and that bit of disinformation has lasted over 200 years. Yesterday I read an article about the connection between Roswell and the current bear market. I will search for the source, it's really interesting. As an insider i can tell you that JP Morgan pays about 4000$ a month if you provide at least 10 semi quality bearish manipulation posts per day on BCT. where can I join you? btw, all btct bulls selling into 400 is a good buy sign in my book.
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I noticed a pattern.
too much talk in this thread = going sideways
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there are 0 benefits for users with 0 btc to use paypal with btc.
like I said, only early adopters who bought really cheap coins could benefit from it for some micropayment, if the fees are reasonable.
One word: moving the goalposts. (Okay, more like three words.) even if paypal takes 0 fees for transactions (why would they do that?) you still have to transfer your money from bank to btc exchanges and pay fees for their services. too much of a hassle for 1 micropayment for a new user.
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there are 0 benefits for users with 0 btc to use paypal with btc.
like I said, only early adopters who bought really cheap coins could benefit from it for some micropayment, if the fees are reasonable.
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PayPal acceptance is a game changer
that will add even more selling pressure. remember, every time new merchant jumps in - just sell. I think that PayPal BTC acceptance will have more influence then merchant selling pressure. maybe 2 years ago. now I simply dont care because they are so late to the party. That's because you, Tarmi, seem to have a fairly robust predilection to take any news, good, bad or other, and to translate it into "BTC bear logic" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) really? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) sorry for asking, but why would I ever want to spend my BTC and pay all the fees to paypal? isn't the whole point of BTC to avoid charges? add to that the fees for USD/BTC conversion. all I see in paypal accepting btc is selling/redistribution of old cheap coins. It will happen you are right, there will be selling pressure, but also what will happen is more people coming into out small community of BTC users at much faster pace, which will have more influence than selling pressure. More people without BTC who will buy BTC just because PayPay said they should not fear of BTC. PayPal is something like internet religion, I think that there is a huge army of people who only watch PayPal moves and plan their strategy according to that. When PayPal adds new option there is a huge number of people who just want to try the new option, now when BTC is a new PayPal option, get ready for the revolution. paypal is internet religion? doubt it.
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PayPal acceptance is a game changer
that will add even more selling pressure. remember, every time new merchant jumps in - just sell. I think that PayPal BTC acceptance will have more influence then merchant selling pressure. maybe 2 years ago. now I simply dont care because they are so late to the party. That's because you, Tarmi, seem to have a fairly robust predilection to take any news, good, bad or other, and to translate it into "BTC bear logic" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) really? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) sorry for asking, but why would I ever want to spend my BTC and pay all the fees to paypal? isn't the whole point of BTC to avoid charges? add to paypal fees the ones for USD/BTC conversion. all I see in paypal accepting btc is selling/redistribution of old cheap coins.
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PayPal acceptance is a game changer
that will add even more selling pressure. remember, every time new merchant jumps in - just sell. I think that PayPal BTC acceptance will have more influence then merchant selling pressure. maybe 2 years ago. now I simply dont care because they are so late to the party.
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PayPal acceptance is a game changer
that will add even more selling pressure. remember, every time new merchant jumps in - just sell.
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The bid sum on Bitstamp reached (for a short time, it recovered a bit) the lowest point of this year, at just above 3 M$. I noticed a discrepancy between the evolution of bids on Bitstamp and on Chinese exchanges, and I believe that Chinese coins have been dumped for months. If it's westerners returning profits from China or new coins mined in China and used for capital transfer, I can't tell, but the effect is the same.
agreed.
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fu loaded for preventing me to sell in the 420s ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) no no. blame yourself for listening to btct trolls and not selling. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) btw, it was so obvious that 420 wall was fake.
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Mmmm Simply no buy pressure ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Nope, not even with that big bid wall ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Walls are contrarian indicators exactly. someone selling to 425 constantly, that wall must be fake.
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ok, I am interested in buying some.
good work J4bberwock.
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