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17261  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 4 x SP20 / 2 x S5 / USA Only / Shipping Incl. / $Cheap on: October 05, 2015, 06:06:20 PM
This is probably the cheapest S5 ever especially with the included shipping.

17262  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: price check on bitmine coincraft desk 1 th/s on: October 05, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
Depends how much Watts/GHS it uses? Never heard of this miner actually
17263  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Antminer S5 - Canada on: October 05, 2015, 05:15:29 PM
I'd offer $250 CAD Smiley

I'd offer $260 CAD Smiley)
17264  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Used Bitcoin miners within Canada on: October 05, 2015, 05:13:57 PM
Looking for these rigs with approx price (CAD):

Antminer S3 & S3+ = $30
AntMiner S4 = $700
Antminer S4+= $800
Antminer S5 = $270
Spondoolies SP31 = $ 1,050

You probably won't get any offers at those rates. Trust me. I am located in Canada also and the cheapest S3/S3+ I can find is around $120 and the cheapest S5 was $400 Canadian.


Maybe you might get some takers on your S4 and SP31 prices but I  have no idea how much they are worth.
17265  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 05, 2015, 05:11:53 PM
What if the first bet is a win but the second bet is a lose?

Usually it is the first tx (the one that appeared first before being pushed down to second on the pic) that is valid and the one that goes through. Whatever happens to the first bet or with the txid that shows up in your wallet (in bc wallet both show up) is the real one. If it wins, it is a win, if it is a lose, it is a lose. Ignore the other one.

Edit: Whatever happens to the one labelled "correct bet". The other one (top one on the image) is the one that was created and rejected as duplicate.

In fact, if you check other sites like Directbet many bets got two bets from a single tx. It is there in many sites and not just in secondstrade. Hopefully it is been there since just 2 days and it should go away soon.

However this isn't my case. The 2nd bet "loser" is the one that counted and the 1st bet "winner" I never got paid for.

When I look up the trans ID it is directed to the 2nd bet.

So there is nothing that the admin can do to prevent this? Since its a bitcoin node problem?
17266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: October 05, 2015, 05:09:39 PM
Yes this is basically a useless thread. You "CAN" earn millions and billions with gambling but "most likely" you will lose all your money.

17267  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 05, 2015, 07:45:16 AM
Did you even read/look at what I posted?

The bet was registered at 22:01:31, and then another bet was registered at 22:02:23, there was only 1 transaction for USDCHF in that timeframe.

So there are 2 bets but only 1 transaction. This is clearly a bug.

I'm not talking about the delay, I know its normal for there to be delays.

I think either you use bc wallet or the site relies on blockchain.info as the block explorer.

If it does, here is what happened:
1. When you sent a transaction to the secondstrade USDCHF up, two transactions were created (In my bc wallet since 2 days ago many transactions are made twice (both receiving and sending ones) and eventually one will vanish. this error happens only with blockchain.info block explorer which is why I consider it very unreliable.)
2. So both the bets were actually yours.
3. One of the transactions, the first one of course was accepted by all nodes and was entered into blockchain, while the second was rejected though it would show up in that explorer for a couple of blocks.
4. secondstrade accepted both bets, and played both. But if the second bet was a win, it would wait for a confirmation which would never happen. Making the first original bet the only valid one.

tl'dr there is no problem on the server end, at least regarding this particular event.


No I use the Bitcoin Core - Wallet on my desktop. I read a few posts earlier that the blockchain online wallet is not reliable.

What if the first bet is a win but the second bet is a lose?

17268  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 05, 2015, 06:01:47 AM
There I think is a bug somewhere regarding the USDCHF bets.

Here is the transaction ID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/73d006fabdfc5057092ddd5e1c6bfae58a9517599a68d8b5969391d63d3c4b65


This bet was suppose to be registered at 21:59:34 according to the blockchain but it was first delayed for 2 minutes (see the photo attached as 'correct bet') and later it was requoted a losing time and losing value. 0.97225 was the winning bet but was requotted to 0.97234 which ended up being a loss.

The broker I used to verify the quotes is Dukascopy.

1) Why are the bets delayed so long? 2 minute delay is unacceptable.

2) Why do winnings bets get requoted to become losing bets?


EDIT------------------------------------------------

This isn't my bet but someone placed an EURUSD bet Up at 22:25:04

https://blockchain.info/tx/efc9fa256a5aa545f52f6e3639cbb4c0010b2d0aeee499589d378bb153340576


This bet however wasn't registered on the site until 1 minute and 4 seconds later.

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=efc9fa256a5aa545f52f6e3639cbb4c0010b2d0aeee499589d378bb153340576


This one turned out to be a winner.


This same user placed a similar bet about 10 minutes prior.

https://blockchain.info/tx/7d91d2df3824fb792f264cfaa9a8c18dad1d32eeb8524221bb7ec774eb9aaafd

BTC was sent at 22:16:54 and it was registered at your website 2 seconds later at 22:16:56

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=7d91d2df3824fb792f264cfaa9a8c18dad1d32eeb8524221bb7ec774eb9aaafd



So why is it that some bets aren't delayed, while others are delayed by up to 2 minutes and why are some bets requotted?


hi?
1)
Bet time is when the payment transaction is received by our wallets.
In most cases, the time is less than a second.
However, due to the problem of bit coin network itself may take a long time.

There may be a variety of reasons. We'll check it  more detail.
2)
The result of the game is determined by the price of this bet time and  the price of expiry time .
which is not requoted.  if the expiry time is 1 minute ,  the price will be price of  1 minutes after betting time

thank you.


Did you even read/look at what I posted?

The bet was registered at 22:01:31, and then another bet was registered at 22:02:23, there was only 1 transaction for USDCHF in that timeframe.

So there are 2 bets but only 1 transaction. This is clearly a bug.

I'm not talking about the delay, I know its normal for there to be delays.
17269  Economy / Speculation / Re: [NEWS] Bit4x.com - First FOREX accepts bitcoin! - 1:1000 Leverage!!! on: October 05, 2015, 03:29:05 AM
Any news?

I saw active ads on bitmedia with this service.

Also they lowered first deposit to 0.1

Honestly looks like a great broker but not much activity in this thread to know if anyone has any success using them.

Maybe there is another forum with more information about this broker.
17270  Economy / Gambling / Re: Do you know BitPlutos? BitCoins and Binary Options anonymous! on: October 05, 2015, 03:20:15 AM
This service is a complete SCAM.  They don't let you withdraw your BTC, they email you trying to convince you to keep playing, but when you just want to withdraw your winnings they refuse to and bring up some bs terms they didn't even show you let alone ask you to agree to.

Stay away from this site, use 1broker or bit4x if you're looking for a reputable service that's not going to mess you about.

BE WARNED.

Pretty unfortunate that they would do that because it looks like they put alot of work on the website and platform. Could of been a very big hit.

17271  Economy / Gambling / Re: BinaryBase.co | Binary Options | 100% First Deposit Bonus on: October 05, 2015, 03:17:54 AM
Yes this site closed down months ago.

If you are looking for a good binary options website try FortuneJack. See my sig.
anyone knows why did they decide to close it down? as far as i can see they did not scam anyone as they dont have negative trust

My speculation is simple lack of capital. Most likely there was a huge winners and they ran out of capital. Very unprofessional to do.
17272  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Oct 1 to Oct 14 picks are Open. 2x bonus! + a surprise? on: October 05, 2015, 02:36:13 AM
Currently not looking too good. Probably will be at least +5%. I guess the shipping delays didn't stop the hashrate increase.
17273  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 04, 2015, 10:43:16 PM
There I think is a bug somewhere regarding the USDCHF bets.

Here is the transaction ID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/73d006fabdfc5057092ddd5e1c6bfae58a9517599a68d8b5969391d63d3c4b65


This bet was suppose to be registered at 21:59:34 according to the blockchain but it was first delayed for 2 minutes (see the photo attached as 'correct bet') and later it was requoted a losing time and losing value. 0.97225 was the winning bet but was requotted to 0.97234 which ended up being a loss.

The broker I used to verify the quotes is Dukascopy.

1) Why are the bets delayed so long? 2 minute delay is unacceptable.

2) Why do winnings bets get requoted to become losing bets?






EDIT------------------------------------------------

This isn't my bet but someone placed an EURUSD bet Up at 22:25:04

https://blockchain.info/tx/efc9fa256a5aa545f52f6e3639cbb4c0010b2d0aeee499589d378bb153340576


This bet however wasn't registered on the site until 1 minute and 4 seconds later.

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=efc9fa256a5aa545f52f6e3639cbb4c0010b2d0aeee499589d378bb153340576


This one turned out to be a winner.


This same user placed a similar bet about 10 minutes prior.

https://blockchain.info/tx/7d91d2df3824fb792f264cfaa9a8c18dad1d32eeb8524221bb7ec774eb9aaafd

BTC was sent at 22:16:54 and it was registered at your website 2 seconds later at 22:16:56

http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=7d91d2df3824fb792f264cfaa9a8c18dad1d32eeb8524221bb7ec774eb9aaafd



So why is it that some bets aren't delayed, while others are delayed by up to 2 minutes and why are some bets requotted?

17274  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | Most Popular & Trusted Bitcoin Game | Huge Community | Free BTC on: October 04, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
Betting speed increases as your wager does. It's to prevent a lot of low rolls, probably.

Is this an actual fact or are you just making this up? Because its impossible for the server to predict how much you are wagering before you bet, unless you are constantely betting large amounts.
17275  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Secured my first S3, getting yet another one shortly. on: October 04, 2015, 06:24:49 AM
Just take apart an old laptop that you are no longer using and use the wifi antennas (there should be 2) on the S3.

You can use any laptop as long as it has wifi.

17276  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Diff thread Oct 1 to Oct 14 picks are Open. 2x bonus! + a surprise? on: October 04, 2015, 01:07:44 AM
+1.75 to +2.00 %

Please
17277  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] 2x S5 ship from Canada on: October 04, 2015, 01:06:09 AM
I can do $250 Canadian for 1 piece.

I am located in Alberta.
17278  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 03, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
Anybody knows what happens if a payment is sent without a miners reward? Does it still count as a valid trade or is it delayed until confirmed?

I think that it is valid entry and payout is delayed until it is confirmed.

So as long as 10000 Sats is sent as a miners reward it should eventually count as a bet?
17279  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] four PSU for antminer S3 and S5 with SUPER BONUS on: October 03, 2015, 09:04:33 PM


http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V/dp/B00ALK3HF4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1443906193&sr=1-1&keywords=cx500m

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V-EPS12V/dp/B00ALK3KEM/ref=sr_1_9?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1443906193&sr=1-9&keywords=cx500m

Might want to adjust your prices a bit....


17280  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★No.1 BITCOIN BINARY OPTIONS ★HIGHEST REWARD 190%★1% DOUBLE DICE★EXPIRY:1~720MIN on: October 02, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Anybody knows what happens if a payment is sent without a miners reward? Does it still count as a valid trade or is it delayed until confirmed?
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