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17361  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin on its way to $1,300 on: March 15, 2017, 03:21:25 AM
Just like what I said, I really don't get it why these people keep on talking about it. What done is done, let's move on and the price is going to pump again no matter what happens, that's the normal cycle of bitcoin's price. After its price to decrease, we know that it is going to increase as those people had enough buying power already.
Buying power is good to make a circulation of bitcoin in a better way. This might lead to some extent for a price increase, these days the segwit and bitcoin unlimited debate into the mining process will make the increase higher breaking the barrier of $1300+ in a short.

And that's what we need to see and stay tune for now and let's be enough with this ETF rejection. It's useless that we keep on talking about it. Since the price of bitcoin now is at $1,246 on preev. Maybe a month or two the price is possible to reach $1,300 and keep on going just like what happened. The rising time of price did happened for a longer time and the downside of it happened just for a while.
17362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: March 15, 2017, 02:56:48 AM
It gives me money because of my favorite game satoshimines.  It helps to improve my life.  It gives me hangout with my friends by going to somewhere else just like beach,  hotel,  and other special places in the whole world.  And specially financial freedom.

I don't think that gambling is able to improve my life because instead of improving my life. It is pulling me down and makes me more addicted to a certain game like dice game. Maybe it helped for sometime when I became lucky and I need money that time. But that's the only thing that gambling helped me with my life.
17363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What we learned from the Bitcoin ETF denial on: March 15, 2017, 02:23:58 AM
I learned from that rejection is that bitcoin can stand alone even without this ETF approval. Bitcoin can remain in the mainstream of cryptocurrency. But I learned also that it can be also a big help to the bitcoins price if it is approved. And right now we just need to accept the fact it is denied and there's more opportunity to come not only with this ETF issue.
17364  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: March 15, 2017, 01:53:03 AM
If we consider the loans a risk at banks imagine at crypto world, the huge problem is there is no way you build a business at lending without a proper colateral to cover the loss, because scammers has used and abused those systems, and there arent almost no honest persons at those places.

That's why if you are a lender it's your duty to always get a loaner that will give you an appropriate collateral or does have higher value of collateral with the total amount that he is borrowing. But still if there are collateral, that is risky because we know that there are borrowers that doesn't attain to pay their debt and just let their collateral take by the lender as payment.
17365  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin on its way to $1,300 on: March 15, 2017, 01:32:11 AM
Yeah bitcoin can reach $1300 but it is a long process since there are still many things against Bitcoin. ETF is not approved and it affects Bitcoin a lot and make the prices stop inceasing. Moreover, tomorrow, Chese exchange will be back and i can ensure that the prices will decrease sharply
We don't need ETF to boost bitcoin prices or credibility. Bitcoin was doing fine without ETF for almost 8 years so far.
After ETF denial Bitcoin's price tumbled over $100, and then recovered fast to $1,250 levels where it was sitting before.
That was the only reaction we had, there won't be any long distance problems ahead due to ETF disapproval.

Yes. This is so true. ETF or not, bitcoin will survived as proven. Maybe the ETF just put bitcoin in the focus of public attention and more and more investors are attractive to it and maybe pump bitcoin ecosystem a little right now so the price is looking great and we didn't expect it to crash as other FUD is saying. So definitely before or at the end of 2017 bitcoin will raise to $2000 level.

I don't understand why people keep on talking about ETF and already gave the rejection of it. Man, without ETF bitcoin will remain bitcoin and as the best crypto currency. And those people that did take the advantage of this scenario got profit already, they sold bitcoin at higher price and when people get panicked, they bought at lower price and now back to normal and on it's way to the top.

i think ETF is first start for cryptocurrency especially for bitcoin to see the react from government, but government think that they are not approve ETF, bitcoin price is getting down to deep but its not, bitcoin still gain more power in bitcoin community but still it needs more time before we see bitcoin is approve in real life. i only wish, if bitcoin price is going down, the price is not down to far but who knows.  ETF itself is beginning but bitcoin have large opportunity to become one of the greatest investment in future and we see the price is move up and down too often and the other coins is following bitcoin.
I think it can not affect a lot.. since we are already using it a lot and many site are actually accepting bitcoin as payment.. and many big company are also accepting like in steam..
And few countries that are accepting bitcoin locally brazil and paris or other countryies that accepted bitcoin locally..
If ETF was rejected well i think its not a problem we can be still use it..

Just like what I said, I really don't get it why these people keep on talking about it. What done is done, let's move on and the price is going to pump again no matter what happens, that's the normal cycle of bitcoin's price. After its price to decrease, we know that it is going to increase as those people had enough buying power already.
17366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin question on: March 15, 2017, 01:16:50 AM
Yes that's right.  I learn better by doing and there's no need to flood the forums with another crap coin that some idiot made.

Oh I see, it's good to know that your intention is not just to add to those crap coins and earn a lot of bucks from it just like the usual newbies are wanting.
But if you are good enough in coding things will be easier to you. Have you read this article, this will help you somehow.
http://cryptorials.io/how-anyone-can-make-their-own-digital-currency/
17367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin question on: March 14, 2017, 11:41:52 PM
What? Another newbie that wants to create his own coin. But what you are planning is better than others, so you just need to create your own alt coin just like to add for your own portfolio and will be used for some private thing. Correct me if I'm wrong?
17368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin on its way to $1,300 on: March 14, 2017, 11:34:31 PM
Yeah bitcoin can reach $1300 but it is a long process since there are still many things against Bitcoin. ETF is not approved and it affects Bitcoin a lot and make the prices stop inceasing. Moreover, tomorrow, Chese exchange will be back and i can ensure that the prices will decrease sharply
We don't need ETF to boost bitcoin prices or credibility. Bitcoin was doing fine without ETF for almost 8 years so far.
After ETF denial Bitcoin's price tumbled over $100, and then recovered fast to $1,250 levels where it was sitting before.
That was the only reaction we had, there won't be any long distance problems ahead due to ETF disapproval.

Yes. This is so true. ETF or not, bitcoin will survived as proven. Maybe the ETF just put bitcoin in the focus of public attention and more and more investors are attractive to it and maybe pump bitcoin ecosystem a little right now so the price is looking great and we didn't expect it to crash as other FUD is saying. So definitely before or at the end of 2017 bitcoin will raise to $2000 level.

I don't understand why people keep on talking about ETF and already gave the rejection of it. Man, without ETF bitcoin will remain bitcoin and as the best crypto currency. And those people that did take the advantage of this scenario got profit already, they sold bitcoin at higher price and when people get panicked, they bought at lower price and now back to normal and on it's way to the top.
17369  Economy / Economics / Re: how much do you earn with 25$ investment on: March 14, 2017, 11:22:55 PM
That is actually a very small amount to invest but if that is so, I'll take time to grow it first with trading and I'll accept the fact that there will be a chance of losing there instead of growing. But if ever I'll become successful with it, I'll just keep on doing it until I've got enough to invest with the casino's bankroll.
17370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: March 14, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
I will always choose the best thing that suites me and that will be investing. I will always love to risk my money in a nice way such as investing since it is also considered gambling but in a nice manner unlike gambling it can be gone very fast. But in investing, it will take time before seeing the result of your investment.

In investment, all you need is also luck and patience, but more likely, more patience than luck. I gambling you also need patience and luck, but more luck than patience.
Investment are really as dangerous as gambling, it also has risks which are need to look to before investing. Well, not all investments are successful.


In investment, yes you need luck and patience but that's the main thing in gambling. What you need in investment should be patience, luck and skill in order to get good profit because if you don't have those then you are rushing just like in gambling. Investment are risky but I don't think they are dangerous such as gambling.

Lol investment needs wise decision and patience, no need luck in investment as long as the company you invested is legit and follow the government law and have insurance of those people who invested in it when it goes bankrupt.  You also need to research.  the difference between investment and gambling is the risk mitigator.  Luck never mitigate risk, it bypass everything and just happen without a cause which is scientifically impossible.  So luck never exist. 

A little bit of luck is still needed if you are going to invest. And if you think luck never exist then it is just happening suddenly, we all know that there are people that are lucky on their investment with their first try, since we know that investments aren't that successful once you started. So I guess, luck should be considered.
17371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any other coin which will increase in value like bitcoin? on: March 14, 2017, 10:54:39 PM
Yes it's possible when they surpass the total market cap of bitcoin. But right now, I don't think that will happen because a lot of alt coins that are coming out. People can't focus on what coin they will stay and hold it out for a longer time. Most of them are being dumped in the long run and will get out on the league.
17372  Economy / Economics / Re: Are central banks losing control? on: March 14, 2017, 10:46:25 PM
Eight years after the crisis of 2008-09, central banks are still injecting $200 billion a month into the global financial system to keep it from imploding.

Are central banks losing control?

Probably they are now and the lending system of each banks needed to be moderated by them or else worst situation will come again. Debt will always lose them in control. But I guess they know the risk and they are already doing something for the amount that they need to cope up.
17373  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 21million BTC really enough for the wole world? on: March 14, 2017, 10:37:53 PM
Just like a small $1 paper, when you bought something that is worth centavo then it will be divided into portion. Just like in bitcoin, a person doesn't really need to have the whole bitcoin for buying a cheap or something that is worth buying for only 0.005 BTC it will be divided into portion. But not all people in the world, will be engaging with bitcoin and if all 21 million coins are mined, the price will increase. It will depend on supply and demand.
17374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: How far do you think ETH will go? on: March 14, 2017, 10:30:06 PM
I put in about $100 into ETH yesterday and plan on putting another $100 in today. Last I checked, it was around $3 per ETH and now it's at $19 which is absolutely great.

How many of you have invested in ETH and how far do you think it will go in the next couple of years?

Well those people that believe in bitcoin should believe and invest with ETH either. This is the one of the most promising alt coin next to bitcoin. We know that it's $2 on the coin market cap but the thing is that when btc is pumping ETH is dumping so that's why you need to take advantage of it. Just like op had done, what a great job.
17375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: March 14, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
I will always choose the best thing that suites me and that will be investing. I will always love to risk my money in a nice way such as investing since it is also considered gambling but in a nice manner unlike gambling it can be gone very fast. But in investing, it will take time before seeing the result of your investment.

In investment, all you need is also luck and patience, but more likely, more patience than luck. I gambling you also need patience and luck, but more luck than patience.
Investment are really as dangerous as gambling, it also has risks which are need to look to before investing. Well, not all investments are successful.


In investment, yes you need luck and patience but that's the main thing in gambling. What you need in investment should be patience, luck and skill in order to get good profit because if you don't have those then you are rushing just like in gambling. Investment are risky but I don't think they are dangerous such as gambling.
17376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: March 14, 2017, 03:07:03 AM
I will always choose the best thing that suites me and that will be investing. I will always love to risk my money in a nice way such as investing since it is also considered gambling but in a nice manner unlike gambling it can be gone very fast. But in investing, it will take time before seeing the result of your investment.

If you want to like to take risk than no doubt gambling is better way for you. Because in gambling you take risk in every step more than investment, but also in investment it is too risky. But about the OP, i will choose gambler, because in gambling it is full of excitement and it is a short way to earn money.

Just like what I've said, I want to take the risk in a nice manner and not with gambling the way it is. I know how gambling works and I admit do also gamble but with these two options. I'd rather go for myself with investing it will always be the best choice for me. And I wanted to be called as an investor instead of being a gambler.
17377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What exactly is the purpose of altcoins? on: March 14, 2017, 02:53:59 AM
There are alt coins that has a sole purpose for their very own service. There are gambling sites also that are accepting different alt coins not just with bitcoin. It varies on what alt coin you got and there are some that are good just for trading. As long as you can see that there is a service that will adopt that coin and use it as their main currency, it can be like steemit.
17378  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Really The Future Of Money? on: March 14, 2017, 02:38:21 AM

Time will show us whether Bitcoin can become popular and be used by many people or not. As you can see, the number of bitcoin users increase every year and it is certain that most of them enjoy this type of currency. Bitcoin is one of the new technologies and we have to admit that people can not easily understand and accept. They need more time to learn and to practice using bitcoin more ofter. If that happens, Bitcoin will be used as the main currency of the Earth and store will choose Bitcoin as a payment method

I am sure bitcoin will be a huge of payment method in the world.
yes, you are right. bitcoin user always increase every year. we can see that, many of people to using bitcoin for the payment.

Those who have once tried to use Bitcoin understand that it has many advantages over national currencies. Therefore, I am sure that with each year users of bitcoin will become more
This is true but bitcoin also has some issues, probably the biggest at the moment is the huge rise in fees that has happen in the last months and how slow the network seems to be working.

I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about the rise of fees well I guess that appropriate because we saw that the price of bitcoin is also increasing. And that's why we just need to expect that there would be more increase in fees. With the network traffic, the core devs are planning to do something about it already.
17379  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: March 14, 2017, 02:24:28 AM
There'a always someone out there who will panic selling what ever they have and they have different reasons for doing that. One of them is listening to rumors and would be speculators, some of them will panic selling when someone offered to buy at high price while some will start selling because they simply need the money, bottom line is if all of those reason given above happened in one day to different person then expect an effect in BTC price as some id***s will follow thinking that price will drop.

Those people that are going to simply their coins because they simply need it shouldn't be considered as there would always be the time that we need to sell for our needs. But you are right, those people that are always following and listening to rumors and speculations will just follow whatever that guy will ever tell them.
17380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2016 and WHY on: March 14, 2017, 02:12:18 AM
Just go with Monero, it has a big potential after the ETF rejection. People tend to make it as substitute and treats it as a subordinate of bitcoin. Well for me, this has the potential to keep on pumping and of course ETH will still remain always on my list.
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