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1741  Economy / Speculation / Re: What make people panic sell? on: January 31, 2022, 05:13:07 AM
well, the most real panic selling occurred because of the FUD and the negative news that spread. like recently, Russia gave a statement that made crypto users afraid of the value of their assets falling, so, they immediately sold them and triggered a panic sell. Yes, but now the decline has stopped. however, FUD and negative news are the main sources of panic selling problems. this really affects newbies for fear of seeing the price dump much deeper, and making them also sell their assets.
1742  Economy / Economics / Re: Which business profit model do you prefer? on: January 30, 2022, 05:01:47 AM
I prefer to take a business whose profit every day is small, and can be big sometimes when it's time. however, it is very good, and we can try to develop strategies so that we can get a lot of results every day. take advantage of the rich, and affordable for the underprivileged, that would be great. even more so if we can help people who are less fortunate than the businesses we have. my point is, don't take much advantage of them depending on their circumstances.
1743  Economy / Economics / Re: What is better - cryptocurrency trading or investing? on: January 29, 2022, 07:07:04 AM
Well, I think it really depends on your decision making capability and knowledge .Investment and trading are both profitable. However, investing and trading have different approach in making money.Investing is about long term and low-risk while trading comes short-term and high risk.If you can achieve any,it will make you a good amount of profit.
In my own opinion, Id better choose investing rather than trading. Because i can assure that investing will always give me much more money than trading.You can make a living in trading but you can  make a fortune in investing.
Yes that's correct. many people make more profit on trading, but there are also those who make more on investment. it all depends on how the strategy and development you do. Personally, I think that both are very beneficial. however, I chose one of the two based on the circumstances. if the trade looks really profitable, I'll give it a try, and if there's a good enough investment, I'll try it too.
1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $34k the bottom?? on: January 28, 2022, 07:17:14 AM
$20k is even very achievable and normal. Based on what I have experience in the past history of Bitcoin price, I am expecting it to even drop to $10K-$8K level at some point in this bear market.
well, i didn't expect that, and wished otherwise. other than that, it looks like the current bitcoin price has stabilized quite a bit after its decline. in fact, I feel that the recovery could be quicker than we think.
however, hoping the bitcoin price is under $20k is possible. however, I really didn't expect that.
1745  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: JOIN BOUNTY MASIH PROFIT GK ? on: January 28, 2022, 05:38:36 AM
Namun bounty dengan bayaran altcoin tidak ada jaminan kapan bayaran akan dikirim belum lagi banyak manager bounty yang tidak tanggung jawab saat ini, mereka tidak menerapkan sistem escrow sebelum menjalankan proyek bounty sehingga tim selalu menunda distribusi koin, berbeda dengan bounty bayaran bitcoin atau USD yang sudah ada jaminan distribusi setiap minggunya bahkan kalau ikut bounty @Hhmpuz bisa bayaran on time dan tidak pernah delay satu haripun.
ada beberapa manager yang melakukan sistem escrow sebelum menjalankan bounty, salah satunya adalah Bounty Detective. beberapa project yang saya lihat, dan ikuti adalah ARCS phase 2 dan Surv. kedua project itu menggunakan sistem escrow, atau jaminan pembayaran oleh bounty detective. ini hanya contoh kecilnya, masih ada beberapa bounty manager lagi yang melakukan hal yang sama.
selain itu, bayaran stabil koin juga menggunakan escrow untuk pembayarannya. yah, jika melakukan penelitian mengenai ini, pasti bakalan dapat deh.
selain itu, tahun 2021, bounty masih sangat worth menurut saya. namun, saya belum tahu pada tahun ini.
1746  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin makes a loser a winner on: January 24, 2022, 06:00:22 AM
At that time Bitcoin has a low value and thinking on how to convert it for real money would probably the goal of those who received it as consolation. Looking back, who would have thought it will reach the price that we can never imagine for just a digital coin? Its really amazing. Many of us regret not holding Bitcoin when the price is still cheap but it happened already and we cant turn back time.

What matter now is the lesson that we learned that we can use to decide for the future. So lets be wise and dont let a simple correction make you panic.
you are right. other than that, it will be a very important lesson for the people who get those bitcoins. I just hope that they still hold on to the bitcoins they have, but that seems difficult considering that in 2017 the price of bitcoin was also a high pump and a lot of people were tempted to sell it at that time.
well, however, this is also a very important lesson for us that we should never underestimate the slightest gift, especially in the crypto world, because we don't know whether we are holding a diamond or not. maybe nowadays, they have stories to people that they used to have more than 25 bitcoins. well, all the way i search for bitcoin, i never have tens of bitcoins in my wallet
1747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $34k the bottom?? on: January 24, 2022, 03:28:53 AM
I don’t think it was the bottom. The stock market futures opened and went up 1% and so did Bitcoin however the stock futures are trading nears highs but Bitcoin is starting to correct itself and retrace the entire move, it’s pretty bearish.

Some low liquidity traders basically took advantage of the stock futures opened and quickly brought it up, but now that volume is returning seems like the bears are in control.

If stock market during NY opens negative then I can see us breaking lower than $34K.
we have to prepare for the worst for this. currently the potential for bitcoin is still very vulnerable to fall beyond the price of $ 34k or even $ 30k. besides, it would even be great if the bitcoin price stayed at its current price.
however, in the crypto world anything can happen. I just hope that the price increase will happen soon, but prepare for the bottom.
1748  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is $30k the bottom for this dip? on: January 23, 2022, 07:57:26 AM
I hope that is correct speculation. I suspect that when the bitcoin price drops more than $30k, it could easily drop to the $25k range. Well, I didn't expect that. I'm still very hopeful not to see a $30k price at this point, and hope that the bitcoin price will bounce back at least back into the $40k range.
1749  Economy / Economics / Re: Buy Crypto Or Have Fun Staying Poor! on: January 22, 2022, 08:00:01 AM
poor people do not really feel the impact of inflation from their finances. For me, the word poor is for people who do not have income or their daily needs are not met maybe the only thing they will feel is the price will become more expensive than before. but the middle class and above will feel it.holding flat only without choosing any investment will definetelly decrease value our saving in the future.

I think, all people will feel inflation. as you said, inflation will cause the price of goods to rise, and when that happens, the poor will get worse and can't buy it. in fact, before, their needs were not met, and as prices continued to rise, they would feel that it was becoming more and more difficult.
however, a pretty good option for thinking about the future is simply to invest. well, investing in crypto is also a part of that. many people who previously could not meet their needs, by knowing crypto, they are released from it. to be honest, before getting to know crypto, I too was a part of it. however, now I can meet my own needs. Yes, there are times when we need to think about investing. if we do not force to learn new investments, then we will just walk in place.
1750  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 22, 2022, 05:23:10 AM
Dengan boomingnya NFT diindonesia memang itulah sisi positifnya dimana ranah orang orang yang kreatif untuk menjual karyanya lebih luas, tetapi yang disayangkan adalah banyaknya orang yang membuat spam dengan menjual foto foto makanan ataupun hal hal yang tidak berguna lainnya dengan maksud ingin menuai kesuksesan seperti Ghozali, itu suatu kesalahan menurut saya.

Seperti pembahasn yang diatas, yang ditakutkan karena boomingnya NFT diindonesia saat ini lalu banyak disalah gunakan adalah dapat menarik perhatian negara lain hingga menyebabkan indonesia di blacklist dari marketplace NFT, semoga itu terjadi.

Saya melihat fenomenal NFT yang saat ini banyak diikuti oleh orang orang yang tidak kreatif dengan menjual hal hal tidak berguna di openSea tidak akan lama bertahan karena ketika mereka tidak mendapatkan apa-apa itu akan hilang dengan seiring berjalannya waktu. Semoga itu cepat terjadi dan NFT bisa dimanfaatkan oleh orang orang yang kreatif untuk menjual karyanya.
bener gan. saat ini perkembangan NFT di Indonesia memang sangat cepat dan cukup bagus. Namun, karena perkembangannya tidak teredukasi, dan hanya berniat meraih pundi-pundi uang, maka mereka membuat spam NFT, seperti yang agan bilang, bahkan foto makanan, lemari, KTP, dan lainnnya menjadi sangat banyak di market NFT. selain itu, beberapa orang saya dengar beranggapan bahwa NFT itu sama seperti Sh*pe, La*ada, dan lainnya. mereka berpikir bahwa itu adalah market untuk jual sesuatu. karena itu, saya pikir edukasi masalah NFT ini di perlukan. saya cukup yakin, saat ini sangat banyak foto selfie yang ada di opensea karena ingin seperti Ghozali
1751  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will owning 0.01 BTC really make you rich? on: January 15, 2022, 03:17:09 AM
well, in the crypto world, especially bitcoin, everything seems possible. if the bitcoin price reaches $1m, then, owning 0.01 bitcoins alone is equivalent to $10k. Yeah, that's a lot of money. however, at $10k, it's not yet rich. it will make you rich if you find another investment place that can turn $10k into millions of dollars. Well, we don't know what will happen in the future. however, preparing 0.01 bitcoin at this time is not a difficult thing. So, if many people believe that with 0.01 bitcoin can make them rich in the future, then they should hold at least 0.05 bitcoin to prepare for it. if the bitcoin price reaches more than $1m, then with 0.05 bitcoins, it might be rated as a rich person.
1752  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC reach $100,000 in December? on: December 23, 2021, 04:00:54 AM
Because most of my friends believe that BTC reached 100,000 US dollars in December, so I want to discuss whether this is true Grin
You already has your answer mate , we are more than a week before December ends and yet what we have now?

For me i will answer you frankly , NO WE WILL NOT MAKE IT TO 100k this year.

and even if next year i doubt this will happen that is also why i will keep my holdings for more years and will never expect high this year and the next.
that's pretty self explanatory. the current state of which retaliated directly. I think, the current price of $100k is still unattainable. in fact, if the end of the year ends up being over $55k or $60k, that's already very good. what's more, if we start 2022 at that price, chances are, we can go back to discussing, and speculating that bitcoin price could possibly reach $100k or not.
1753  Economy / Economics / Re: Advice for the season. on: December 20, 2021, 06:37:38 AM
well, everyone needs a new plan and learns the shortcomings of the previous plan so that the potential profit that we can get in the coming year can be bigger this year. well, to be honest i still have the same plan, which is to buy some crypto to hold for a long time, especially BNB as i'm pretty sure the price will go above $1k in the near future. it's just, we really need to see and improve the plan.
however, we are indeed very easy to move because of FUD and HYPE. This year, I'm like that too. it's really hard to hold back when those things come. I even had time to invest in P2E, but I thought the project was a potential scam, and is currently not developing. well, if i just focus on investing, maybe now i have enough assets. well, a lot of things have to change.
1754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc ath february 2022 on: December 20, 2021, 04:50:17 AM
it will be really cool when bitcoin hits new ATH, and the price we all dream of in Q1 of 2022. Personally, I think that the potential pump also has great potential to happen in 2022, even very big. Unfortunately, the problem that speculators, or predictors always have, is, we don't know when the time is right. only, new ATH is very possible in this coming year, not only for bitcoin, but also for altcoins. Let's take a look at the predictions of the Wall Street folks. I hope they are not wrong this time.
1755  Economy / Economics / Re: Maybe good time to loan money to invest in crypto on: December 18, 2021, 02:37:26 PM
Never borrow and invest in crypto. It might be loans or borrowing money from friends or through any means, never do it. As market is volatile, we are not sure of constant return to repay the loan. At times, the return might in months or many times in a month. When there is no return, you will be put in pressure to close off your loan. Hence never borrow money from any means and invest on crypto currencies. We will be in loss and then in depression.
I agree with this. it's better to be in the safe zone, and collect it little by little than to take the risk due to speculation that still has no basis as it is today.
You can borrow to buy bitcoins, but you need to consider the risks involved. Currently, the price of bitcoin is very high, and if you are aiming to borrow money to buy more than 1 bitcoin, then you should reconsider. because the risk is too great.

people always give tips and advice like, use the money you are willing to lose. however, it seems the money from the loan is not that type of money. If you lose, then you get stress.
1756  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Recomendasi bounty no scam on: December 18, 2021, 10:36:49 AM
Mau tanya para senior minta arahannya untuk rekomendasi jenis jenis bounty yang no scam?
saya pun bingung mau mengatakan apa mas, intinya ikuti aja lah semua bounty kalo bisa...

pengalaman mengajarkan saya bahwa tidak semua bounty yang terlihat meyakinkan dan punya tim jelas membayar, begitu sebaliknya maka itu jika mas mengikuti bounty sosmed atau artikel maka cobalah unkt ikuti semua bounty, salah satu pasti ada yang bakal membayar dengan nominal bagus.
bener sih mas, tapi ada baiknya jangan semua juga disikat,paling nggak pilih-pilih gitu. kalau mau yang aman, coba aja nyari bounty yang di pegang sama BM terpercaya, terus make escrow, biasanya BM nya itu masulum sama Bounty detective. kalau mau coba-coba, irfanpak sama hhampuz. itu yang jadi acuan saya sih untuk sekarang. kalau lagi gak ada yang kebuka dari BM yang saya sebutkan, coba cek di link mamesso diatas. itu juga biasa menjadi patokan saya dalam ngikut project. soalnya bounty disana dah ada marketnya, jadi lebih kemungkinan membayar sih. satu lagi, kalau ngikut yang dari tread bounty terupdate yang udah ada market, pastikan volume dari koinnya ada.

cara diatas itu gak 100% berhasil sih, tapi paling ngak, udah ada usaha untuk milih bounty yang no scam.
1757  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reason for the dump in Bitcoin and most of the Altcoin? on: December 15, 2021, 07:55:18 AM
the end of the year, many people expect with big explosion, to gain massive profit. pump and dump will be common thing in crypto, not only end of year, also the other news from some country.
this is common thing, you need to trading or collect it as much as you can. and this one will determine who get the big value.
and holding is good for people who wont think about complicated thing.
Well, actually I also expect a high price increase by the end of this year. however, I'm not that surprised to see the current price dump, as I feel this is the norm at the end of the year. well, people need money for christmas and new year, i think people will sell some of their assets for that purpose. In addition, if you look at it from year to year, December sometimes shows a decline in crypto prices.
it's just, I think that the current price and situation is still much better than in previous years. well, for now, I expect the price of bitcoin and other altcoins to recover in early 2022.
1758  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [TANYA] kembali terjun ke bounty on: December 14, 2021, 05:25:48 AM
Ini sebenarnya thread sudah lumayan lama ya dan bump lagi.
Jawabannya untuk umum: MASIH BISA
Tapi ada S&K nya.
Dan kalau melihat aktivitas si OP sepertinya agak susah juga buat kembali  lagi ke dunia bounty dan serius di dunia perbountyan.
Karena pasca pembuatan thread ini juga OP hanya 1x replydan saya cek belum ada perkembangan signifikan pada postingannya.
terlebih last active pada October 20, 2021, 10:03:50 AM.
Husnudzonnya mungkin si OP lagi fokus belajar mengejar ketertinggalannya sekarang dan mendalami lebih banyak informasi lagi, karena rules forum dan perbountyan di sini saat ini sudah berbeda dengan pada tahun 2017.
Mungkin hanya semangat musiman yah om, pas lihat harga crypto naik, pengen kembali ke dunia crypto. saya juga liat terakhir x loginnya 20 oktober kemarin. mungkin dia lagi mempersiapkan blog, youtube, sosmed, dan sebagainya buat genjot bounty yang ada nanti.
yah, tapi informasi ini cukup bagus untuk orang-orang yang dulu maen crypto dan pengen kembali lagi.

Note : bounty masih worth saat ini, jika pengen ikutan dan masih belum tahu cara research mengenai bounty, sebaiknya ikut bounty yang udah ada escrow, atau bounty yang managernya irfanpak, Bounty detective, Hhampuz, dan Masulum. secara pribadi, itu sih acuan saya kalau gak mau research.
1759  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One problem with BTC on: December 13, 2021, 06:08:08 AM
Vitalik doesn't guarantee your lost ethereum, you can complain, but the chance for him or his team to respond is very small or even non-existent. if on an exchange, the one who guarantees your assets is the owner of the exchange, but in the wallet, no one guarantees that. it's just like a wallet in the real world. when your money is lost, no one wants to replace it, not even the government will replace it.

In a business, you can't keep your assets safe, you can probably minimize them. in centralization also like that.
1760  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HODL, HODL, HODL when can one actually sell Bitcoin? on: December 11, 2021, 10:48:06 AM
Personally: I sell around 20-50% as the price hits 20-50% over last ATH.
And then I re-buy the same way, in parts, as the price drops again.
I don’t always make good profits out of it, but I usually come out 5-25% better then if I had not touched it.
in fact, this is the right thing to do when it comes to selling bitcoins. when we have seen ATH, or see a high price, selling some of the asset, or a few percent of it is the right thing, and buying back can be the right decision too. however, many people are confused about when to sell their assets, so they sometimes miss the train. So, sell 50% or less of it when the price is high, or you feel you've got your profit.

I think some people continue hold the bitcoins they own, no matter ATH or bear market it's because they still believe in higher prices, and, their needs are met by other incomes so they are comfortable withholding it.
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