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1741  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Scottish Independence May Be Coming Soon on: September 23, 2014, 12:20:12 PM
When 'Yes' means 'No'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUR-HgAtwtg
1742  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nvidia proves that the lunar landings happened on: September 22, 2014, 02:09:38 PM
Nice. Smiley
It is pretty obvious from the sequence of event leading to them that the landings were very real indeed.
1743  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 22, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Typical japs. All that mouth and little to back it up with.

Typical Honeypot. All that mouth and little to back it up with.

What's the problem - got pricked enough to pop out and start bitching? Cheesy

Begone to the ignore list. Haven't seen any constructive comments from you, only badmouthing, so I don't expect to see anything good either...
1744  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 22, 2014, 11:24:03 AM
This is just a marketing stunt to garner attention to the company. We are not even close technology wise, and you cannot guarantee a product for a date when it is currently physically impossible.

People as a species should start thinking several generations forward and cooperate across nations if they want to survive, rather than wondering if you'd get 150% revenue tomorrow and wondering where to start a war to get that revenue.

And for the naysayers, to put things into perspective, it's only some 60 years ago that we started venturing into space, and only some 110 years ago that we started flying, but the dream was there long before that.
1745  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 22, 2014, 11:19:08 AM
Have people even considered the physics implications of keeping stuff in place with a bloody cable? Nevermind the fact that terrorists would have easy points of attack you also have to take into account the weather, Japan isn't cosy like Western Europe where there is only some relatively minor ( lets be honest here ) floods and the occasional heavy downpour. They'll have to contend with Tsunami's, hurricanes and heavy snowstorms depending on where they building it not to mention the earthquakes on the surface that could easily just shake apart half the elevator and leave the other half detached and drifting in orbit.

I haven't even gotten to the political and military implications of such an elevator yet, I'm sure the Japanese are smart and it is a possible theory but we have a better chance of developing spaceships which can simply fly up and break the atmosphere and it would be cheaper too than building an orbital elevator, there would also be less difficulty in defending them as well because of them being fast moving objects that would simply go into space and then dock on the space station rather than hanging their defencelessly for several generations.

As a matter of fact, yes.

Read Kim Stanley Robinson's "Mars Trilogy".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Stanley_Robinson#The_Mars_trilogy

The initial construction cost of a space elevator is big, but the subsequent running is less costly the hurling the ships out of the gravity well.
this is the case with all the large technological leaps.
1746  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 22, 2014, 10:46:57 AM

Well, we're already in the middle of a financial war but it turned out not as thrilling as one might have expected because the WEstern villains are already bankrupt and their financial system is imploding. Actually, if one wants to bring down the EU,it's easy and it's supposed strongest member is the most vulnerable point. Germany? Precisely. Deutsche Bank has a $75 trillion derivative debt, and it is actually to prevent the corrosive effects of that debt that is in the middle of the continental austerity program which is strangling the rest.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/elephant-room-deutsche-banks-75-trillion-derivatives-20-times-greater-german-gdp

Some quite revealing and shocking infographics:
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/derivatives/bank_exposure.html
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/world_debt/world_debt.html
1747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 22, 2014, 10:21:25 AM
That they're talking about carbon nanotubes makes it sound legit (from what I've heard in previous discussions of space elevator construction), but 7 days travel time? Ffffuuuu, the moon didn't even take that long, how slow/far away is the space station going to be?

The anchor point of the elevator would need to be at the geostationary orbit, 35786 km away. So the speed of the elevator capsule would be about 213 km/h on average. I guess there are some resonance considerations and the strength of the cable that would limit the speed. Still, it's not about the speed, but about the throughput and the energy used to lift a certain amount into the orbit. The biggest benefit is that once the elevator is operational, you can bring something useful down from space and use that as a counterbalance to bring something else up, thus using the minimum of energy for transportation.
1748  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 22, 2014, 10:13:33 AM

A short summary:
The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers, a West-financed NGO has come out after several years of silence (during the time when Serdjukov was the Minister of Defence and the silent corruption and destruction of the Russian Army was going according to Washington plans, when regular soldiers' conditions were abysmal, they didn't let out a pip, but as soon as order started returning to the Army, the committee got resurrected) and started demanding clearing up the fate of Russian soldiers "killed" in Ukraine. Turns out all the soldiers (save one, who is still being located) in the list that they presented are alive and well and conducting service at their dislocation points. All the boys in question have already contacted their relatives.
1749  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 22, 2014, 09:20:34 AM
A story from real life:
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Apropos the theme of " the West hates Russians"
Time: Saturday evening, 13.09.2014
Place: A pub in the Northern London
My buddy and I dropped by, ordered a pint, were watching telly and chatting.
A crown of Englishmen nearby.
Having heard foregin speech, the cautiously ask, "where from"?
We say, "from Russia"...
They ask to be more precise. From Russia proper, not Poles or Ukrainians?
No, we say, the North of Russia....
The effect is unexpected: the come over pump hands, ask what beer we prefer. They order us 2 pints (who's not familiar with the English, generosity is not one of their hobbies!) anc continue with the talk along the lines of "sick and tired of the Poles, and we are, in general for free Donjetsk!"
Ones says, don't believe our press, we are for you.
We started to carefully ask in return, "you are not Scots, perchance?"
No English, just been on vacation to Scotland... We've talked until closing time. These English are OK guys, and, what's interesting, are not too glad in USA, who got one everyone's nerves by their bombings and lies.
In other words, a break from a templated view.

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По поводу : "запад ненавидит русских"
Время действия : вечер субботы 13 09 2014.
Место действия : паб на севере Лондона
Зашли с приятелем, взяли по бокалу, смотрим тв и болтаем
Рядом толпа англичан
Услышав чужую речь, они осторожно спрашивают "откуда?"
Русские, отвечаю...
Начинают уточнять : - точно из России, не поляки, не украинцы?
Нет говорю, с севера России...
Эффект неожиданный: подходят, пожимают руки, спрашивают : какое пиво предпочитаем? Заказывают нам 2 бокала (а кто знаком с англичанами, щедрость не их хобби!), и ведут такие разговоры , что полаки уже  достали, и вообще мол , за свободный Доньецк!
Говорит: не верьте прессе нашей,  мы за вас!
Осторожно стал спрашивать :
"вы часом не шотландцы?"
Нет , англичане, говорит, только что отдыхал в Шотландии... так и просидели за разговорами до закрытия, нормальные мужики , эти англичане , кстати  что интересно, США не очень любят , типа задолбали всех бомбежками и враньем ...
В общем, разрыв шаблона ...

  Рассказал(а): La Casa

 Grin
1750  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Japan announces plans to have a space elevator on: September 22, 2014, 08:44:51 AM
Japanese construction giant Obayashi announces plans to have a space elevator up and running by 2050
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-21/japanese-construction-giants-promise-space-elevator-by-2050/5756206

About time. I hope that all the nations will contribute as this is the best Earth unifying project that one can think of.
1751  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 19, 2014, 01:32:10 PM
As per request

And yet, have you ever seen Putin intoxicated, doing anything that was not well-thought-through and balanced?
1752  Other / Archival / Re: Stop Blaming America for your Countries or Religious Bullshit on: September 19, 2014, 01:20:30 PM
Invasion? Why, because we go after the fucking dictators who gas his own people? Because we fight against communist ignorants who created a worse dictatorship and are now slinking back to capitalism and screwing that up for themselves? If we wanted oil we would invade saudi arabia.

Let me ask you one question: What right do you have to attack or interfere with any sovereign country on whatever pretext (especially trumped-up ones, like gassing, as it turns out the America-supported terrorists were doing the gassing after all)? Who gave you such right? Why don't you follow your own advice and stay out of other countries' businesses, so that they won't have any reason to dislike America in the first place?
1753  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 19, 2014, 11:51:54 AM

I don't. At all. But yes, most drink within reasonable limits that don't affect their ability to think clearly, especially in important matters.

You're not a Russian anymore then.
Second you said first they don't drink now they drink reasonable...what it will be tomorrow I wonder Wink.


Now you are being pedantic. Besides, you were talking about vodka and then you show a beer mug...what it will be tomorrow I wonder Wink.

As for being Russian. Drinking vodka is not Russian. Traditional Russian drinks are mjod/beer and kvas. Vodka came from Finland and is a rather recent imposition.
1754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 19, 2014, 11:09:09 AM

Vodka driven politics leads to destruction.


You know, I wholeheartedly agree with you there. Yeltsin, and the almost-destruction of Russia by Washington puppeteers steering Yeltsin, is a prime example.

It's good to know that the current political leaders of Russia do not drink alcohol. So you shouldn't be too agitated for Russia's fate now, unless Washington manages to conduct a coup in Russia, like they did in Ukraine, and install a new drunkard at the helm.



Everyone does Nemo Wink

I don't. At all. But yes, most drink within reasonable limits that don't affect their ability to think clearly, especially in important matters.

Besides, in this picture Putin drinks beer (looks like a visit to a beer factory or something?) - so definitely not vodka-driven politics. It is also questionable that he drinks. My grandfather had many different strategies for avoided drinking in companies, while appearing to be drinking. Wink
1755  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 19, 2014, 10:30:00 AM

Vodka driven politics leads to destruction.


You know, I wholeheartedly agree with you there. Yeltsin, and the almost-destruction of Russia by Washington puppeteers steering Yeltsin, is a prime example.

It's good to know that the current political leaders of Russia do not drink alcohol. So you shouldn't be too agitated for Russia's fate now, unless Washington manages to conduct a coup in Russia, like they did in Ukraine, and install a new drunkard at the helm.
1756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: September 17, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
Crimea for Dummies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1zvb_ottiw

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Miguel Francis, a Los Angeles film school graduate, travels to Crimea to discover for himself how life there has changed since it was reunited with Russia. He explores the beautiful Peninsula’s history and cultural heritage and takes in some of Crimea’s tourist attractions while talking to local people about their attitudes to becoming Russian citizens.

 Grin
1757  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sanction against Russia for West-choreographed conflict in Ukraine on: September 17, 2014, 01:10:36 PM
The difference is that in 1812 Russia was allied with Prussia ,Austria and England
In 1942 was fighting Germany with the help of England and USA.

Now its allies are North Korea and Belarus. Wink.

Also , they forget about the 200 years they payed tribute to the golden horde;). Or the destruction left by Crimean Tatars, the Swedish conquest and polish occupation.

Save Russia from such allies - with them you don't need enemies. Austrians didn't meet up with the Russian Army after Kutuzov's march over the Alps to face Napoleon. That was when Paul I dropepd the Austria/British alliance and started negotiations about an alliance with Napoleon. So Paul I got murdered by the British-financed traitors.

In 1940s USA were supplying outdated and rotten military food rations to Soviet Union as "help". My grandmother almost died during WWII (and had her liver destroyed for the rest of her life), not as a result of German bombings, but from the American "help".

And England was an ally in most wars with the aim of dragging Russia into said wars. WWI could have been avoided altogether if not the the English "help".
1758  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: September 17, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
So you attacked him on a personal level. Now can you address the actual matter at hand? Because what you just wrote does not detract from his analysis of the situation.
1759  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: September 17, 2014, 12:47:48 PM
How many wars has Russia fought on it's territory defending itself and how many to expand it's own ?
Common , be a sweet Norwegian guy m and acknowledge that it's about  1 to 10.

Don't forget that in the ww2 , the russian where the aggressors , sorry to say it but it's like that.

And , as blabla said , why do you say Russia was a target , Russia in a 25 years old country , isn't it?

Russia is an old country with an existential gap between 1917 and 1992 (and almost fulfilling the Western wish in the 90and getting destroyed by puppet Yeltsin and co.)

Russians were aggressors during WWII? Are you living in an alternate reality? I thought you were  Even so, that means that Georgians were aggressors (especially them, those bloody murderous aggressive Georgians, who had under their thumb the better part of Eurasia and invaded Romania!), Ukrainians were aggressors, Azerbaijany were aggressors.

Also, if you put a 1:10 claim, please back it up.

What was first?
Invasion of Poland by the Russians , Invasion Of Russia by the Germans?
Also the annexation of Bucovina by the Russians Georgians, Moldavians and Ukrainians was before or after we went to war with mother bear?


Don't take the division of Poland between Germany and Soviet union as an isolated incident. Take in the bigger picture the events in Mongolia and the Japanese threat, and you will see how Soviet Union was trying to buy itself some time to avoid fighting on two fronts with the imminent invasion from Europe,

PS: Fixed the Bucovina incident for you. Wink Russia didn't border with Romania during the SU period, remember? And the leader of Soviet Union was Georgian...
And you didn't so much go to war, as invaded the Odessa region. The tales of Romanians massacring the local population are still ripe among the elders. Oh, and you switched sides, when it became apparent which way the wind was blowing... Wink

An interesting read here:
http://countrystudies.us/romania/22.htm
1760  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: September 17, 2014, 12:42:22 PM
Sounds more like the rebels in the days they refused to hand down the evidence used machine guns to blow holes on the wreckage....
Far more possible...

That's a lot of 30mm armour-peircing rounds you need to put through that fuselage, observing that the exit holes on the cockpit fragments coincide with strafing scratch marks on the upper sides of the wing fragments, then remove all bullets and casings from the scene, and everything within an hour of arrival of the first OSCE observer, who was in the vicinity of the crash site.

Yeah, entirely possible.

That was most probably not SU-25 anyway. And whoever can modify the Wikipedia for whatever reason. That's for dummies. The technical specs of the plane, is what people should be looking at.

PS:
US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft
http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

Boeing-777 was downed by Ukrainian MiG-29, Romanian expert says
http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/13-08-2014/128268-boeing_crash_ukraine-0/


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