we will have to wait for now. maybe in a few months we will get an idea of what the plan is.

absolute truth

a 4 month preorder is nuts.

sometimes I hate the internet as writing what you mean is hard to do.

I see info (specs)  that is clear and easy to understand on the m20
I see no info on the s17 (specs)

is all I mean.

I do not mean you should do a four month preorder of the m20.
For that matter you should not do a four month preorder of the s17

In fact you should not do preorders beyond 45 days.
I did order 1 t15 due to ship on April 1-10  basically I was curious  to compare it to a s15 which I have.

and it had a coupon and in theory was under the trump tax number.

are you usa based?

I am in Howell NJ

I ordered these parts as a just in case.

https://pangolinminer.com/product/power-supply-unit-for-m10d1/   I have 1

https://pangolinminer.com/product/miner-control-board-m10-m10s-d1/ I have 1

https://pangolinminer.com/product/miner-fan-set-m10/ I have this which is 1 pair of fans

they should send you a psu fast try asking on telegram all the links above have a telegram link.

Let us know if you can  about any specs.

Thanks In Advance

I have only seen 30 at the chip from bitmain

and one person mentions 1200 watts for 34th  which is really good. about 35.3 watts a th

Fans and controller = maybe 50 watts

so 1150/34000 = 33.8 watts per th chipwise

I figure 1275/34000  37.5 per th is the best it can do power rate.

I figure a 30 chip  can do 20% so 36 watts a th

36 x 34th = 1224 + 51 = 1275.

two screen shots from bitmain show a design change in psu placement
my guess is s17 will do the z11 design  you could fit more on a shelf

3 T3's all doing 41th on eco setting

so 2089/41000 = 51 watts a th

this is better then the s15 on low setting by far hash rate is 2x power rate is around a tie.

as the s15 does 910/18000  = 51 watts a th  but hash rate difference is huge.

Semantics. Which is why I argued with him. Btw I would guess they have them at bitdeer and that they charge s15 power rates while they mine with the s17.

As there is zero oversight on this.

I asked for mods to move this to alt coin as it is an alt coin miner.

I don't see any specs for bitmain. I see specs for Whatsminer.

No it can not be ordered as of today so it is not released.

I have decided I was selfish and I have made a sacrifice of  some vodka more then a bit maybe ¼ of a cap.

lets see what happens

well either she is the bad guy or sql acorn is.

I went pretty much in on BCI and mine 200 coins a week.  But the coin has sagged a lot in price.

10 cents for 4900 coins = $490 which is not as good as grin and that also tanked.

I have 12x 1080ti's 4x vega 56  but only pay the power on the 4 vegas

 will stop in a month or two once the heat settles in.

go to telegram on a pc not a phone.

Yang JYan   does support he can help

https://pangolinminer.com/   there is a link on this page to pangolin telegram.

Well I am glad I ordered that 8th m10  it will make this wait shorter

wtf m20s is 72th?  and does 3124 watts?   only 43 watts a th!

holy shit "I want it all and I want it now!"   note a line from a song by queen.

Just got Number 8 today it uses admin/admin to log in.

and no access to the admin page to change password.

Seems to be working well in fact runs a bit cooler then any of my other machines.

I will be adding this to the Clifton,NJ setup. Along with 1 s9 and 1 l3+

This will bring us to 586th for btc and 8.2gh for ltc

ebay has L3+ with a psu for under 175


https : // www . ebay .  com / itm /Antminer-L3-with-AW3-Power-Supply-Large-Quanity-Available/113660230216?

https : // www . ebay . com / itm /Bitmain-Antminer-L3-504MH-s-Dual-Voltage-110V-220V-PSU/143148825786?


checked above both are under 175 including shipping

I think I may not be allowed to link them

so I disabled links.

I have no idea who the sellers are

My m10 comes today  it will be number 8

pretty amazing 8 units can do 248th you need 18.4 kwatts of juice.

@ Offordscott
Thank you my bad.

@ mikeywith
As for the s17

I have heard  34th 1200 watts tossed around.

If it is truly 30 per chip   at best it does 20 % higher = 36 per chip  or 36 watts a th   which is 1224 watts for 34th

I suspect the s17 will do:

low speed 34th at 1225 watts
high speed 40th at 1600 watts  which is very competitive against the m10 48th

it may be this for the m20

32 th at 1265 watts = 40 watts  a th
48 th at 2300 watts = 48 watts  a th

if the numbers are true above then  m20 vs s17  would be interesting.

There is more then this but it is about the deletions of posts.
It appears someone other then frodocooper or ck has been deleting posts.

I had some deleted last night and an entire thread on Avalon done by hagssFin was deleted last night.

Maybe it was maxwell as he is a mod for this section. So basically anything we write may be altered.

And as for Pangolinminer if they are not authorized why and how are they getting gear from MicroBT?

They have sold m3 m3x and m10

I gave up on this unit  I have it set that it does about 1800 watts and 19th

I think -1   there has been new firmware  but I do not think anyone has been able to get it to do much better at the watts per th level.

Does anyone have this  doing 80 watts a th at any setting?  If so please post screenshots  and wattmeter.

On the good side if power is cheap it is really reliable  at 1800 watts and 19th.