We'd look at 900+ then right
I don't think that $900-999 is going to be a region that we spend much time in me neither. maybe the old ATH, but even the old ATH have never really been a problem to bitcoin. usually once the bull run has started, it doesn't really stop at anything. Don't forget we must retrace and consolidate a bit to continue our bull run, in order to have a healthy rally.
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Which phase are we in? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdO0qyR6.png&t=663&c=Cv5vQRN8-pRoig) I guess "Early Majority", I would give this 90%.
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Only thing i know for sure about your speculation. Thats is too impossible to happen. It will took years,decades or centuries before btc get the price of $10k
you're wrong, slow adoption is impossible. either we reached the limit of what bitcoin will ever become, or we will see exponential growth. Zimmah, I totally agree with you and you know this well (we share the same mentality). But there is only one thing you got wrong in what you said, now we are in the middle ground because as Satoshi said, we either have zero volume or insanely high volume (check my sig.) In other words, either we have $0 or $100K,$1M or whatever. Also, people should read about Gartner Hype cycle and that we still didn't reach the plateau of productivity yet, which means the future is bright as f$ck. Well yes, obviously you can't go from $0 to $1 million with nothing in between, but what i mean is that the dream of many people who think a slow growth is natural or ideal is literally impossible. It either grows exponentially (and due to that one law of which is can't remember the name from, that states that the value of a network is N^2 where N s the number of users, t's actually and exponential function of an exponential function, as you can also see in the chart), or it doesn't grow at all (and withers and dies). although there might be time periods where it doesn't grow because it lacks traction, but as long as growth picks up again later that's fine, and perfectly natural. I agree with you and you beat me in Math tbh. People who are short sighted will really lose hard. period.
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Only thing i know for sure about your speculation. Thats is too impossible to happen. It will took years,decades or centuries before btc get the price of $10k
you're wrong, slow adoption is impossible. either we reached the limit of what bitcoin will ever become, or we will see exponential growth. Zimmah, I totally agree with you and you know this well (we share the same mentality). But there is only one thing you got wrong in what you said, now we are in the middle ground because as Satoshi said, we either have zero volume or insanely high volume (check my sig.) In other words, either we have $0 or $100K,$1M or whatever. Also, people should read about Gartner Hype cycle and that we still didn't reach the plateau of productivity yet, which means the future is bright as f$ck.
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YES, INCOMING !!!This gave me the feeling that you are CUMMING and not COMING !!!!
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Fak gave up on bitcoin and went awol.
At all brother, the sea of "twitter" is so deep and it seems to be I'm "drowning" in it. Save yourself, and come back to us.... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) To be honest brother, I feel shy from you and Chef Ramsay, you used to like the things I post and I'm not sustaining this anymore. But I will do my best to come back as soon as possible, promise.
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Fak gave up on bitcoin and went awol.
At all brother, the sea of "twitter" is so deep and it seems to be I'm "drowning" in it.
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Buy youre Trezor now, $20 discount ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJM1A3MAl.jpg&t=663&c=nIoedXy3MRmfkA) The promo code is hilarious ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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At first, I would like to thank you at first for being generous to send a lucky winner this huge amount of money. Second, my BTC address : 15A9Zedp4A6gozy9vd4gzcWi7mdvhauxKJ Third, I promise you if that is OK with you, that I give out some of the funds if I'm the winner, to a charity or something (We can work it out together to ensure this seriously). I can use /r/JoinMarket P2P decentralized coinjoin protocol Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Could someone please help me and tell me what does "DevFee : Stop mining and disconnect" means ? And if there is anyway to fix it in case I'm doing something wrong.
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MUST LISTEN To THIS https://www.hvst.com/posts/66742-raoul-pal-the-era-of-doing-nothing-and-getting-paid-for-it-is-overRaoul Pal: "The Era Of Doing Nothing And Getting Paid For It Is Over" Today's podcast is a little different. I speak with Raoul Pal and we cover a number of topics, running from one to another as they crop up. I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I always enjoy speaking with Raoul. For those of you who've never heard of Raoul - he is first and foremost one of the most congenial, open minded, and thoughtful guys you could ever have the pleasure of discussing the truly mind boggling and fascinating world of global macroeconomics with. He's also a world renowned global macro investor, an investment strategist, economic historian, traveler, rum drinker, and co-founder of Real Vision TV, together with Grant Williams who I spoke with some time ago. Here's some of the topics Raoul and I cover in the podcast: The end of financialization of the economy. The era of doing nothing and get paid for it is over. Why Raoul thinks that’s a good thing (especially if you’re an entrepreneur) and he also lays out the way to profit from it. Why markets around the world are so fragile today and why the investment environment is so dangerous, especially for less liquid investments. Helicopter money - as Raoul said, “We’re getting there, it just depends which format we’re going to get.” Why debt is like 700 beers (plus Raoul’s take on the possibility of a debt jubilee). Which chart is showing one of the biggest head and shoulders tops in history. How Raoul looks at Bitcoin and why he thinks Bitcoin has a huge runway (but with one important caveat)... and why - on the other side - he doesn’t see a lot more runway left in startup investing, or as Raoul calls it, “lottery ticket investing”. Why venture capital is, in fact, in a "terrifying situation". And much more. Could you please tell us what he said regarding Bitcoin in direct and in-direct way:) ? Thanks in advance brother ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Good point, Elwar, as I was asking myself, will the COIN ETF ever get approved ? I think yes, but it's not around the corner. What you think ? If no, why ? If yes, will take some time, right ? Thanks buddy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ETF is bullshit (not bullish). winklewees are ever failing wannabes burning through daddy money. trading paper coins will certainly not lead btc price higher. just look at how gold ETFs are used to lower its price, flooding the market with their monkey gold. Elwar, what do you think about what hdbuck said ? And yes, I'm aware of that second ETF filled by SoildX. You said that the winkies are impatient now, how will this help in accelarating the decision taking ? Plus, don't you think it's too soon to see that the COIN ETF will launch before the end of the year ? Lastly, do you think we could have two Bitcoin ETF's in two diffierent stock exchanges ? Probable ? The part about the Winklevoss twins being impatient implies that they are still actively trying to get this to work and by changing exchanges they are showing that they're willing to do what it takes to get it done. As far as lowering the price? No. We already see that people are willing to spend double the bitcoin price for bitcoins on the exchange market if they have a broker handling it. The more people who are able to check a box at work to have some of their retirement go toward a bitcoin investment the higher the price will go. That is a market not yet tapped. And it is huge. It's all speculation as to when it will happen though. They said that it usually takes 2 years from the initial filing. It's been over 3 years. Thanks for the reply, Elwar. 1. That is a market not yet tapped. And it is huge Any numbers about that numbers, even an estimate ? 2. Do you think we could have two Bitcoin ETF's in two different stock exchanges ? Probable ? 3. What do you think about this https://www.gsx.gi/article/8292/gibraltar-stock-exchange-welcomes-bitcoineti4. And this as well https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4uiny2/vontobel_issues_first_bitcoin_certificate_on/Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Your guess is as good as mine. I like Cameron's guess of $40,000 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) As far as the Gibraltar ETI...I thought there was already something similar in Switzerland. I'm really not a big stock market guy, I just think it opens up to a lot of big investors. Plus I could invest my tax deducted retirement into bitcoins (if I paid taxes). Pardon me, but what guess and what that $40 grand ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I was asking about this market and any numbers you are aware of or even an estimate The more people who are able to check a box at work to have some of their retirement go toward a bitcoin investment the higher the price will go. That is a market not yet tapped. And it is huge. And still you didn't answer my question, could we have 2 ETF's ?! Thanks ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Good point, Elwar, as I was asking myself, will the COIN ETF ever get approved ? I think yes, but it's not around the corner. What you think ? If no, why ? If yes, will take some time, right ? Thanks buddy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ETF is bullshit (not bullish). winklewees are ever failing wannabes burning through daddy money. trading paper coins will certainly not lead btc price higher. just look at how gold ETFs are used to lower its price, flooding the market with their monkey gold. Elwar, what do you think about what hdbuck said ? And yes, I'm aware of that second ETF filled by SoildX. You said that the winkies are impatient now, how will this help in accelarating the decision taking ? Plus, don't you think it's too soon to see that the COIN ETF will launch before the end of the year ? Lastly, do you think we could have two Bitcoin ETF's in two diffierent stock exchanges ? Probable ? The part about the Winklevoss twins being impatient implies that they are still actively trying to get this to work and by changing exchanges they are showing that they're willing to do what it takes to get it done. As far as lowering the price? No. We already see that people are willing to spend double the bitcoin price for bitcoins on the exchange market if they have a broker handling it. The more people who are able to check a box at work to have some of their retirement go toward a bitcoin investment the higher the price will go. That is a market not yet tapped. And it is huge. It's all speculation as to when it will happen though. They said that it usually takes 2 years from the initial filing. It's been over 3 years. Thanks for the reply, Elwar. 1. That is a market not yet tapped. And it is huge Any numbers about that numbers, even an estimate ? 2. Do you think we could have two Bitcoin ETF's in two different stock exchanges ? Probable ? 3. What do you think about this https://www.gsx.gi/article/8292/gibraltar-stock-exchange-welcomes-bitcoineti4. And this as well https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4uiny2/vontobel_issues_first_bitcoin_certificate_on/Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Good point, Elwar, as I was asking myself, will the COIN ETF ever get approved ? I think yes, but it's not around the corner. What you think ? If no, why ? If yes, will take some time, right ? Thanks buddy ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ETF is bullshit (not bullish). winklewees are ever failing wannabes burning through daddy money. trading paper coins will certainly not lead btc price higher. just look at how gold ETFs are used to lower its price, flooding the market with their monkey gold. Elwar, what do you think about what hdbuck said ? And yes, I'm aware of that second ETF filled by SoildX. You said that the winkies are impatient now, how will this help in accelarating the decision taking ? Plus, don't you think it's too soon to see that the COIN ETF will launch before the end of the year ? Lastly, do you think we could have two Bitcoin ETF's in two diffierent stock exchanges ? Probable ?
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What happened to Fak, did he abandon his post?
Nope, I'm here ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Will continue posting so soon, thanks for asking my dear friend, apperciated ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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