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1761  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [VIRAL] [Trading Live - Bittrex + C-CEX] Advanced Development on: February 01, 2016, 02:09:32 PM
What happen(ed) seems normal not sure what expectations ppl have? Of course you'll see a nice volume spike where people hear the hype/news and wanna buy in, then you have the cheapos who want to make a quick buck and dump their viral during such periods (fine whatever), but it'll probably be their loss in the coming months.  (Lol, like really you dump 50k for 1.2btc or whatever?? Wow).

Given this retarded attention spans and fast money thinking here it's the usual cycle but people have to remember long term here.  If the dev here says "2016" repeatedly we still havbe 11 months to go, hopefully during this time you'll see a steady increase to a respectable valuation per viral...pump or slow, whatever the case.

Yes it needs more support in the meantime yes but hopefully that comes with marketing/promo but even moreso from the use of viral in other means (bitclub network, burning, etc) whereby it'll naturally keep rising as it's bought off the bittrex books.   At least the dev is working away at it and not running some ico scam like so many others.  (This doesn't count re. the launch of coin where bobbyboy was involved and fucked everyone as usual).

As for the radio show dev I'm sure will post a quick synopsis of it here in due time.
1762  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | Decentralize Everything (decentralized blockexplorer coming) on: January 29, 2016, 07:46:56 PM
Sorry for not being very active here right now.

big update coming soon.

 Cheesy

Commending you on your work here, keep it up, looks promising and non-scammish like 90% of the other coin action (hopefully I'm not wrong). Smiley
1763  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 29, 2016, 04:07:11 PM
^I have to agree yes, though I don't trade much with wbb.

Jeez the site is super fast, more than before!  Holy crap that's great.

Lol u have to trade if u want grow ur wbb for free, eg trading of wAt u have and not putting so much of your own personal money in. Even if u make 50 WBB per day trading, isn't it worth it? Wat if one day wbb rockets $1-$2 or way more, u will sure kick yourself for not trading/accumulating more.

Oh I have a nice collection no worries.
1764  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE - ANN] BitRecovery - A Coin for Scrap Metals and More! on: January 29, 2016, 04:06:03 PM
Is your family related to him...Huh  Shocked

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Avery
1765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OFFICIAL THREAD] on: January 29, 2016, 03:17:17 PM
It is with much sadness that I am writing this post.  I have notified the rest of the BitStone Team that I am leaving the project.  I have made this decision for many reasons.  My true passion in crypto is Bitcoin and I have decided to leave the altcoin world and concentrate my efforts on bitcoin.

I started listing my coins on Bittrex last night and have the majority of them listed between 8,000 and 18,000 sats.  I have not "dumped" any coins and did not sell any of the coins in the 10 btc sell last night.  I will have them all listed by this evening.  
 
My personal life has been under scrutiny since the release of BitStone and I will limit my response.  There is a significant medical condition with someone in my family.  I made the decision to close my medical practice shortly after the diagnosis and was forced to file bankruptcy soon after.  The closing of my medical practice has allowed me to be with my family and I have no regrets about it.  

I have made some mistakes and want to apologize to the BitStone Community and the other members of the BitStone Team.  I also want to apologize to anyone that I may have harmed including but not limited to suchmoon and Paul Revere.

Sincerely,
Keith





awwwwww...game over

wuutt.... The game has just begun  Grin

Shocker  Roll Eyes Convenient after it dumps to nothing lol.  Shitty shitcoins.
1766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anything behind the doge pump? on: January 29, 2016, 03:14:18 PM
There is no news on Dogecoin. It seems that a bunch of whales accumulated cheap dogecoin for a long time and is using this opportunity when bitcoin is dropping to pump up altcoins to sell them.
If no one can explain then you could be right.

Yup, this.

And China.
1767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 29, 2016, 02:15:27 PM
^I have to agree yes, though I don't trade much with wbb.

Jeez the site is super fast, more than before!  Holy crap that's great.
1768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anything behind the doge pump? on: January 28, 2016, 08:55:46 PM
LOL at anyone who BOUGHT almost any of those stupid alt pumps yesterday  Undecided
1769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 28, 2016, 04:31:05 PM
playing a risky game here

sold 50% of my wbb coins, playing the altgame, already up 30%
hoping to buy back before the halving

Game?  That it is but with such low volume and small amount of btc to make the price fly it's harder with wbb.  Honestly this is one coin I just keep accumulating for awhile with whatever btc I have, since it'll be something much bigger in the not so far future.
1770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Vertcoin - 1 | ASIC - 0 | Lyra2RE | Decentralised | GPU Mineable | Open Source on: January 27, 2016, 04:05:33 PM
Why is this dead crap coin pumping???  Wow.

Even Vericoin also is pumping which was pure group manipulation from years ago.

1771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 27, 2016, 04:02:47 PM
Nice work dev.

Man it's great to see BTC back into alts but wtf most of it is allll fake volume, so it's double-edged sword I feel.  It means people will lose if they buy to high if there's no real reason for a coin's value to fly...but at the same time it brings great volume and eyes to alts again and many people will dive back in to trade!  Good to have whales playing their bots on many coins in a way because without that it seems alts were so dead.  

But why wbb doesn't pump?  I know we say it hurts a coin but sometimes I think it can bring fresh eyes (and btc) with interest to a coin that's "alive".  Ironically wbb you could say 'deserves' a pump since with all the amazing news AND RELEASES, whales could easy have such good excuses to bring wbb at least up to a respectable level!  Hopefully it'd stay there and not dump back down lol, but as usual we know that's impossible with many altcoins.  

I can understand 1ex coin not flying (yet) because it's new and only on 1ex.trade...but man if anything wbb should be one of the coins to get some btc injection!  Look at all the old coins getting huge volumes and price hike now from sudden influx of whales/China btc!  I'm not saying some of those coins don't deserve it either but it's just frustrating not to see wbb get the btc support it deserves.

Strange indeed... WBB haven't seen in last months larger volume than couple BTCs, but there were many updates. Other coin would get not just one pump,  but a few. WBB is just sitting quietly in the corner.

Hey,  Whales,  do you hate WBB? Don't you like Peter?  Grin  

^Ha, funny.  But really part of that I think re. whales is that they could not get their hands on many wbb coins since the start and that is key to price manipulation.  So they of course accumulate over a long period (wbb seems they didnt), then go and use their stacks and bots to pump (as we're seeing with MANY alts right now).  Even if they or their friends take small losses they don't care, they will manipulate the price as needed to make money over a set amount of time, then it'll drop back down.  For wbb the price used to be super high like 1mil sats when it was very new and rare, and it floated down from there slow then move again back to 100k then back down to where we are now.  I think it'll go back up when when, I don't know.

Dev, many I think would liked to see WBB on poloniex for sure...maybe you can still add it?  I know most vol for it will eventually come from 1ex but i think polo would be another good area to explore to have wbb on, so people can trade amongst it, trex and 1ex.trade.
1772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 27, 2016, 02:39:33 PM
Nice work dev.

Man it's great to see BTC back into alts but wtf most of it is allll fake volume, so it's double-edged sword I feel.  It means people will lose if they buy to high if there's no real reason for a coin's value to fly...but at the same time it brings great volume and eyes to alts again and many people will dive back in to trade!  Good to have whales playing their bots on many coins in a way because without that it seems alts were so dead. 

But why wbb doesn't pump?  I know we say it hurts a coin but sometimes I think it can bring fresh eyes (and btc) with interest to a coin that's "alive".  Ironically wbb you could say 'deserves' a pump since with all the amazing news AND RELEASES, whales could easy have such good excuses to bring wbb at least up to a respectable level!  Hopefully it'd stay there and not dump back down lol, but as usual we know that's impossible with many altcoins. 

I can understand 1ex coin not flying (yet) because it's new and only on 1ex.trade...but man if anything wbb should be one of the coins to get some btc injection!  Look at all the old coins getting huge volumes and price hike now from sudden influx of whales/China btc!  I'm not saying some of those coins don't deserve it either but it's just frustrating not to see wbb get the btc support it deserves.
1773  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Anything behind the doge pump? on: January 27, 2016, 01:49:47 PM
China

Other whales in the scene.
1774  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ETH] Ethereum = Scam on: January 26, 2016, 06:22:29 PM
once again he seems pretty correct *(so far)....
1775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Newby thinks Ethereum doesn't work on: January 25, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
Their wallet is also crap, wth 24/7 maintenance to run on for exchange kinda deal?  Flaky code is flaky.
1776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We are coming for you BTC ! on: January 25, 2016, 09:17:14 PM
Too fast and too bulish, classic pump. It s gonna dump hard within a week.
1777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ARCHcoin [ARCH] The ARCH Network - NEWS on: January 25, 2016, 08:46:45 PM
Why would people even get BACK into ARCH?! LOL.

The only time the price moves is due to whales just messing with the books/prices to get people to buy into the pump, sad.

This coin and plan behind it from the dev and his magical floating triangles was stupid and failed, just like this coin.
1778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 25, 2016, 08:38:12 PM
Hey guys!

First of all i want to say Great job for this project.

I want to ask you about wbb chat app.
Can some1 pls explain me, i am no tech, why this chat is so safe compare with other similar product(telegram messenger etc)

Thanks

Hi,

sure it has a much higher encryption standard to start with .

Users are created with two ECC (secp521) key pairs one for key derivation, and one for signing.

The username plus key pairs create a ‘WBB Chat identity’. This identity is stored on the device symmetrically encrypted using 256 bit AES-GCM with a PKCS5S2 key derived from the user’s password (plus salt and other data). The public keys are uploaded to the server where they are signed by the server using the server’s private key. A user may create multiple identities and switch between them at will.

To login the client generates a signature using the identity’s private signing key against the username, password, and randomly generated data. The server validates the client provided username, password, and aforementioned signature against its stored public signing key for the identity in question.

As the exchange occurs over SSL, session cookies are thought to be a secure enough mechanism to facilitate authentication. The fact that messages could not be decrypted by a session hijacker given the end to end encryption nature of the system also factors into this decision.

Use case: lost/stolen phone

user lost his phone, luckily he has his identities backed up on Google drive
user buys a new phone and installs WBB Chat & WBB Dashboard
user restores his identities from the backup
user generates a new pair of key pairs successfully
attacker with old phone receives revoke message
old phone knows revoke message is from the same user and promptly logs out and deletes any related data
any subsequent authentication attempts on old phone will be rejected

In a nutshell Smiley


Thanks

WBB & 1EX Dev

That's pretty sweet actually, didn't know it was that in depth...impressive.

Telegrams specs here to compare:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)

Architecture[edit]
Encryption scheme[edit]

A simplified illustration of the MTProto encryption scheme.
Telegram uses a symmetric encryption scheme called MTProto. The protocol was developed by Nikolai Durov and other developers at Telegram and is based on 256-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman key exchange.[39]

Since 2013,[44] cryptography experts have expressed both doubts and criticisms on the MTProto encryption scheme, saying that deploying home-brewed and unproven cryptography may render the encryption vulnerable to bugs that potentially undermine its security, due to a lack of scrutiny.[45][46] It has also been suggested that Telegram did not employ developers with sufficient expertise or credibility in this field.[47]

In December 2015, two researchers from Aarhus University published a report in which they demonstrated that MTProto does not achieve indistinguishability under chosen-ciphertext attack (IND-CCA) or authenticated encryption.[45] The former means that it is possible to turn any ciphertext into a different ciphertext that decrypts to the same message. The researchers stressed that the attack was of a theoretical nature and they "did not see any way of turning the attack into a full plaintext-recovery attack".[45]

Servers[edit]
Telegram Messenger LLP has servers in a number of counties throughout the world to improve the response time of their service.[48] Telegram's server-side software is closed-source and proprietary. Pavel Durov has said that it would require a major architectural redesign of the server-side software to connect independent servers to the Telegram cloud.[49]





The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has listed Telegram on its "Secure Messaging Scorecard". As of 7 December 2015, Telegram's default chat function has a score of 4 out of 7 points on the scorecard. It has received points for having communications encrypted in transit, having its code open to independent review, having the security design properly documented, and having completed an independent security audit. Telegram's default chat function is missing points because the communications are not encrypted with keys the provider doesn't have access to, users can't verify contacts' identities, and past messages are not secure if the encryption keys are stolen. Telegram's optional secret chat function, which provides end-to-end encryption, has a score of 7 out of 7 points on the scorecard.[62] An earlier version of the EFF's scorecard was criticized for being inaccurate, misleading and vague, but not specifically with regard to its evaluation of Telegram.[63]
1779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why start accumulating the Capricoin NOW ? on: January 25, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Screw your scam coin!

Nobody believes it and hopefully nobody is touching it.  It'll dump to 100 sats in no time.
1780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WildBeastBitcoin [WBB] now on Bittrex, no PREMINE, Honest ! - the wild one on: January 25, 2016, 01:39:40 PM
Well... In last days I have come to not very good asumptipns. Actually I don't see any growth of WBB regarding price. This is great project, one of the rare with such an active dev, giving to community any info about even smallest updates.
Unfortunately, only few legit coins are valued as deserved. Others are just floating, because sp called whales don't even intend to touch those.
And most crypto high volume trades are done with scams. So much scam schemes around. Those get unbelievable caps, volumes, gains.
It's a sad sad sad situation.

Look at CPC... Once again Bittrex hosts GRID style coin. Why not? They would say... We have good income from scams. We are just a platform for trading. Many good coins are denied by Bittrex, but these are hosted with gratest welcome.

Peter, your project should be valued with millions usd cap, if we look relatively. The fact is fact... WBB is at  measly 90BTC or 36k USD cap. I believe that you with 1ex.trade can change overall crypto world ethics to good.

Cheers

Cheers

It is frustrating yes and I feel the same way, I hope dev can get things going in the right direction.  I don't want to say "hey get soem whales/pumpers' on wbb/1ex but it seems in this market you almost HAVE to do so.  It'd bring major attention to the coin from all areas making people 'want' to trade it...and of course the price would jump bigtime (not such a bad thing haha).  But it's the fact it'd get pnd which is not good.
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