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17721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: New National Radio ad on how to get Bitcoins with CASH!! on: September 13, 2011, 04:10:39 AM
Starting today an ad similar to this will be airing on more than 100 radio stations accross the USA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5E2gBuvweE

It will be read live,  on air by the radio host.

A list of the stations and times can be found here:  http://www.freetalklive.com/affiliates

I would appreciate your feedback on anything that you think should be changed or added.

I would also like suggestions for other Bitcoin related ads that should be done.
(I'm trying to think of one about how MTGOX is better and cheaper than paypal)

This ad is not free,  so if you want to help support it,  please donate to Memory Dealers directly at:
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how long do you expect Wells and Chase to allow this?
17722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 13, 2011, 03:41:36 AM
-a third party is engaging in a cyberwar against bitcoin using man in the middle attacks.

After a lengthy conversation with MagicTux, unless it does turn up that mtgox has been hacked, neither of us can figure out what happened. Its obviously not me and I didn't fall for a phishing expedition, and Im pretty sure its not on his end. His description of security on the new post-hack mtgox is pretty decent. Its not perfect, but he has gone to great lengths to prevent a repeat.

Even if they dumped the password database, the passwords are sufficiently salted and hashed that it is extremely unlikely they grabbed my password first.

I also do not think it is likely the recent DigiNotar or Globalsign break ins have produced SSL certs to attack mtgox with (which WOULD explain this) because mtgox uses EV certs and as far as I know none of the fake certs were for EV, but DigiNotar and Globalsign both DO issue EV certs. Although I am not ruling this out.

DigiNotar knew about the break in for months, and I obviously have logged in since then.

Tux has replaced the missing BTC.

i'm sure at his own expense too.  you should at least say thank you.

i'm sick and tired of ppl blaming mtgox and MagTux as some sort of lying crook.  if he were would he have done this?  as well as bailing out Bitomat and donating many btc to charity and btc businesses?
17723  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 13, 2011, 03:15:13 AM

The dollar rally is another issue and very suspicious. Without the Swiss and Norwegian moves, it's improbable that it would've closed above 77.

perhaps you ought to consider quoting me as i am the only one i know that had predicted this manipulated central bank induced USD rally weeks ahead of it happening which is memorialized throughout this whole thread.  of course i had no insider knowledge that it would be the SNB that would spring the trap per se but it made perfect sense to me that a coordinated effort would be made to target gold to boost the USD and the general prediction was made.  the fact that Dan Norcini comes to this realization after it happens isn't really helpful to his followers.  in addition, on 9/6 at 9:24pm, in this thread, minutes after the selloff began i called attention to this as supportive of my theory.  Dan doesn't post on his blog until 10:44pm over an hour later.

Gold mining stocks break out relative to S&P. Unbelievable strength in the face of unprecedented deflation: not something to stand against.

this is old info and has been already invalidated.  a true technical trader can see this.  the GDX itself and individual gold miners like GG, ABX, NEM have already broken back below what was supposed to have become support from what was formerly resistance.  usually if the breakout is valid this new support level should have held before continuation of an upward move.  this was one huge head fake.  find that written by any of your punditry.

Gold positioning is at a critical mass. If any large interest (*cough* JP Morgan *cough*) begins short-covering now, it will make the QE1 and QE2-induced rises look like pimples on a gorilla's ass. Apologies in advance for the emesis-worthy imagery.

Eric Degroot is wrong.  Everything has changed with this USD breakout.  the whole fundamental basis of the gold trade has been to escape a falling USD.  now that its rising and looks to have broken out of its channel to the upside how can you justify recommending further gold buying? you are potentially putting ppl at great financial risk if we go down the toilet from here.

Gold to exceed $2,000 within 45 days. Key is the fact that gold is under-owned as an asset class. For that matter, Bitcoin is under-owned, but for different reasons. The only asset more powerful than one that functions as money is agriculture. Arable land is also a severely under-owned asset class by percentage of population.

putting up all these bullish posts from permabulls doesn't in the least intimidate me.  you will not find an analysis like mine in this thread anywhere in the world.  how do i know this?  its b/c these thoughts are truly none but my own as a result of years of experience trading and shorting stocks and clear, independent, unemotional, non linear thinking and the study of game theory.  i do read the pundits often but always with a discerning eye and none of what i write here is from anyone's newsletter.  they are to a man bullish.  there is so much more that has gone into my own analysis such as intuition and anticipation that i can't articulate via words.  and yes, i am humble enough to fully admit i could be wrong.

Jean-Marie Eveillard estimates global ownership is at 0.4% when recent historical highs have been around 5% - so a 5-fold increase in ownership should equate to a minimum of 5-10 times the price, or about $9,000-18,000/oz. However, as demand rises and supply is insufficient to meet that demand, price will escalate more rapidly. That is where the real parabolic rise will come in; there's still some time left before that happens.

i disagree that this bull has to end in a further parabolic move.  there's already enough game changers that have occurred in the financial markets in stocks, oil, commodities and other currencies to cause a dramatic reversal in gold right here, right now.  not to mention that you all now realize that CB's have drawn a big red bullseye on all your foreheads.  do you have any idea what this means?

Dan Norcini's article to me is a game changer.  the creeping realization that CB's are acting in a coordinated fashion to kill gold should not result in permabulls thinking that just b/c they are aware of the manipulation, then a gold selloff won't happen.  the better response is to sit up, understand the implications of this, and get out of the way now.  they will throw the economy under the bus in the name of self preservation and to "save the dollar". permabull suspicion will turn to arrogance will turn to denial will turn to realization will turn to doubt will turn to fear will turn to capitulation.  this is the psychology of the situation.

Gold Bullion International also seems to be headed in that direction. GoldMoney already facilitates transactions between existing GM account holders. There are hurdles to introducing a gold-backed transactional account, but it will happen. Bitcoin is sort of a proof-of-concept for that. The combination of Bitcoin and gold is exactly what Open Transactions is suited for. Existing infrastructure already exists to make Visa & Mastercard pretty much irrelevant - mobile phones. Independent terminals at a business could simply scan a QR code off a person's phone to facilitate a transaction; a wholly software solution, as the physical hardware is in place.

could the end of the bull in pm's partially result from a new technology staring us directly in the face; Bitcoin?
17724  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
a true hacker would clean out hundreds of accts at once to maximize the theft before anyone else could react.  this doesn't pass the smell test.
17725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
why is the price up then the last few days?

if you want to get your USD out then the fastest way is to BUY bitcoin and then transfer it out.  after all, this is as good a time as any if you're bullish.
17726  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 12, 2011, 10:51:41 PM
my bet is Diablo has had his forum acct hacked.  look, he puts up an OP then refuses to elaborate?

this could be a new tactic from the banker/gov't trolls lurking here to combat Bitcoin.  an "allten" guy here is advocating clearing out your mtgox accts as well to force an audit which makes no sense if he really was concerned about bitcoin or mtgox as it would cause a bank run like event killing mtgox.
17727  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: cypherdoc
so guys, just give me a few hours to see if my theory proves correct.  if it doesn't work by all means buy the parabola.  personally i'm going to give it a few days from today to let it work but you can all call me a tinfoiler if gold doesn't start going down after the announcement.

A quote from your first post. It was now more than a month ago, gold closed at 1739$. For now, you have to admit you've been wrong.
Even if days like this one give you confidence, it's a small sample.
We'll see which hypothesis (manipulation vs bubble) will be proved true, there's still a long way to go. 1 month is nothing.




fine.  i admit i was off on the exact timing.  and i might be off on the whole concept.  i've always been open about that.  calling an end to an 11 yr bull mkt is outright difficult.  i thought it would be an interesting intellectual exercise if not a downright shorting opportunity.  it certainly has been the former thanks to miscreanity (but no thanks to you) and it may be the latter.

you, otoh, will have to give me credit if i end up being right on the price level for a major reversal.  i made the call at $1780.  pretty damn close.  so far, yes, i am confident with what i see.  time will tell.

Yep, we'll see. Whatever happens, it's interesting times.
And i thank you the intellectual exercise, i've learned from your opinion, even if i still don't share it.

+1

edit:  i just want everyone here to understand the deflationary view even if it doesn't prove correct.  if i'm right, then at least you'll understand why the price is going down and can make quick adjustments.
17728  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: cypherdoc
so guys, just give me a few hours to see if my theory proves correct.  if it doesn't work by all means buy the parabola.  personally i'm going to give it a few days from today to let it work but you can all call me a tinfoiler if gold doesn't start going down after the announcement.

A quote from your first post. It was now more than a month ago, gold closed at 1739$. For now, you have to admit you've been wrong.
Even if days like this one give you confidence, it's a small sample.
We'll see which hypothesis (manipulation vs bubble) will be proved true, there's still a long way to go. 1 month is nothing.




fine.  i admit i was off on the exact timing.  and i might be off on the whole concept.  i've always been open about that.  calling an end to an 11 yr bull mkt is outright difficult.  i thought it would be an interesting intellectual exercise if not a downright shorting opportunity.  it certainly has been the former thanks to miscreanity (but no thanks to you) and it may be the latter.

you, otoh, will have to give me credit if i end up being right on the price level for a major reversal.  i made the call at $1780.  pretty damn close.  so far, yes, i am confident with what i see.  time will tell.
17729  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 06:08:03 PM
Manipulation can only work so far. It will fail.

ooooook....
17730  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
The downward moves in gold are very sudden and sharp compared to the upward moves. Coincidence? I think not!

what have i been telling you?

That organised attacks on gold have been happening?

whatever theory you prefer, bubble burst or conspiracy, PM's are heading down. 

don't forget your original premise for buying gold and silver:  relentless Fed devaluation of the USD.  now what do you do when the USD is rising?  buy more or perhaps sell?
17731  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 05:50:06 PM
SSRI, Silver Standard, nasty breakdown.  other gold/silver stocks heading down as well inversely to the $DXY whose rise is relentless.  i hear a sucking sound.
17732  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 05:43:16 PM
The downward moves in gold are very sudden and sharp compared to the upward moves. Coincidence? I think not!

what have i been telling you?
17733  Economy / Economics / Re: Gold: I smell a trap on: September 12, 2011, 04:44:59 AM
the $DXY and the USD/CHF cross continue to rise.  Dow & oil futures are down.  

if the $DXY blasts off at the open as it has pretty much has since its rise from the bottom of the channel, i will be reininstituting gold/silver shorts.
17734  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: High-resolution images of physical bitcoins on: September 12, 2011, 04:36:04 AM
the printer knows what the numbers are...printer or whoever created the coins...

casascius "printed" the holograms himself and created the key pairs on an air gapped computer.  only he knows.  and i trust him.
17735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 04:09:58 AM
Dude... nobody is getting paid to troll bitcoin forums lol. If I'm wrong please present evidence.

Surawit, you've been arguing with this guy all nite.  this is your chance to set him straight.  will you please?
17736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin still a Bubble? on: September 12, 2011, 04:02:46 AM
lawl? that $30 thing was not a bubble? if that was not a bubble then i dont know what is

bubbles that burst don't reinflate.  just watch.
17737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:55:34 AM
i'll bet its per post isn't it?
Yeah. I'm freelancing atm, but I've heard there are a couple of salaried trolling positions opening up soon... they really don't like bitcoins! The pay is definitely nothing special but the benefits are great (full health+dental). Way better than my last gig trolling homeopathic forums on behalf of pfizer

i'd ask them for a per post fee as well as an hourly rate.  that way you don't get screwed over for your study time trying to understand what you're arguing against.  its only fair. 

oh, and i'd ask them for a raise also.  given the momentous nature, or i should say disruptive nature, of what this means to their trillion dollar franchise you should be getting top dollar.  or maybe you should ask them to pay you in bitcoin.  now that would get them to sit up.
17738  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:44:20 AM
yes it is.  how much do they pay you to troll, Surawit?  is it worth it given the shellacking you're taking?  it must be hourly b/c you sure are wasting a lot of valuable time trying to discredit something you despise so much.  don't you have anything better to do?
Sorry, I find it horribly vulgar to discuss wages, and I don't think the guys at the lodge would be too happy with me if I did either lol

i'll bet its per post isn't it?
17739  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:29:04 AM
What is this, ghostbusters?

yes it is.  how much do they pay you to troll, Surawit?  is it worth it given the shellacking you're taking?  it must be hourly b/c you sure are wasting a lot of valuable time trying to discredit something you despise so much.  don't you have anything better to do?
17740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legitimization and Inevitability of Bitcoin on: September 12, 2011, 03:02:06 AM
Then why is this your signature block?:

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PROUD TO BE A SUPPORTER OF CAPITALISM
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Joined to troll, stayed to argue

I am a marxist irl

finally an admission.  now we know what we're dealing with guys.
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