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17721  Economy / Speculation / Re: A Glimpse into the Future. on: April 16, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
2020 1 bitcoin is gonna be worth $56

wrong

based on some simply math i do, we are rising about 0.15 cent a day, so the price will double at the worst case scenario by the 220
17722  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to admit bitcoin is a failure ! on: April 16, 2015, 06:28:35 AM

The price hasn't gone up for 16 months, the only way it goes is down down lower

Then what the hell are you waiting for? Get a massive loan in bitcoins, sell them, wait for the price to go further down, buy back and repay the loan and enjoy the profit.


That's why the price drops so hard, most bag holders are dumping, is this too difficult for you to understand?

Reading comprehension issues?

Are you? op is clearly telling you that most of bag holders are dumping, understand? no one is waiting for another bubble, most are dumping. loan or not, future swaps or exchanges are all dumping.

That's how you get here at $200 and then $100 and then $30 and then $1 etc..

i know you are trolling but...a dump can't kill bitcoin, is just another price change, like many others, the fact that we dropped from 1200 to 200, does not mean that it will keep falling until $1 like you said, 1200 price was willy bot fault, so at worse it might drop at around 100, that was the price before the fake pump started

Oh so we are talking about around $100 is possible, this is not what bulltards like you promised in the last 16 months.
I can see what's coming out next from your mouth soon, "at worse it might drop at around 50 and because of willy bot fault"  huh?

By the way, the early leaver or may be also the co-partner "Mark Karpeles" of this ponzi coin is the only one to blame on? what about it's promoters like you?

what i have promose man? i'm not promising anything, i don't have any crystal ball, like you trollish guy, i'm guessing besides on my intuition, and btw we are still in my guess range 220-230
17723  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: REAL ways to make bitcoins without spending money on: April 16, 2015, 06:26:46 AM
you can adds

escrow service(if you are good and very trusted, with a 1% you can earn a lot

selling good/digital goods here on bitcointalk, can be very remunerative

I don't think anyone can participate in an escrow service unless he/she has been here for a long time and is a proven trusted member of this community. Well, there are escrow services that offers their service for free. People can still look into those. One does not simply provide escrow services; trust from the community is necessary.

yeah i know it's hard, but it is very remunerative if you are trusted enough, to speed up your acceptance, besides boosting your activity first and your trust, you can do an escrow that include altcoin too or offer other services(like various items ecc...)

Not really, it's more of like saving the buyer from complications that might arise throughout the deal. After all, I haven't seen any escrows here in bitcointalk that offers their service for a high fee. Some of them even do it for free.

there is one guy really trusted that is charging 1%, and if you see is trust, and risked btc, he gained a lot in one year, around 50 btc at least
17724  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: April 16, 2015, 06:19:05 AM
when i want to withdraw, this msg appear

"withdrawal.message.no-verification"

ok it work now, dunno what causing it...
17725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price will not increase until 12 months before the halving. on: April 15, 2015, 07:55:17 PM
so the price will start to rise at the end of summer basically? around august? as far as i remember was never raised during the summer
17726  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Skill Game with Bitcoin on: April 15, 2015, 07:53:39 PM
I've heard about this website yesterday that you can earn Bitcoins with playing CS:GO and League of Legends but i haven't tried it yet.
https://www.leet.gg

i'm really interested in this, i was searching some real skill game(not pussy android game  Cheesy), but if i click on "play now on leet" the link does not work

...ok i've sent a mail to their support
17727  Economy / Speculation / Re: 3 billion market cap for this tech... on: April 15, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
$3B is very undervalued IMO, bitcoin and it's blockchain technology are a game changer in the financial and decentralised field of techonlogy. I think that the bitcoin marketcap should be at $50 billion which is more reasonable IMO.

You think a $50 billion market cap is reasonable? How so?

I think you are not realistic and expect too much from Bitcoin in current form. This year was horrible for Bitcoin which is reflected in the price.

what? 50B is still utterly undervalued, real bitcoin value is near the trillion range, and i'm not even joking

and this for bitcoin only, if we can talk about its technology, the blockchain, we must add another value to it
17728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Support did not hold... But don't panic. on: April 15, 2015, 07:47:01 PM

if it fall to sub 200 you can start to buy, it's a good price to enter the market and start buying in big chunks

just my opinion i could be wrong here

It's not recommended to buy a lot of bitcoins at $200 as it's going to further reduce (most probably) and the buyer will be in a huge loss. One can hold bitcoins now instead of buying more bitcoins.

well i said sub-200 not at 200, it won't drop to double digit ever, because that was a solid point from which the pump of 1200 started, so the 100-200 range, is a must buy as many btc as you can
17729  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: REAL ways to make bitcoins without spending money on: April 15, 2015, 07:44:49 PM
you can adds

escrow service(if you are good and very trusted, with a 1% you can earn a lot

selling good/digital goods here on bitcointalk, can be very remunerative

I don't think anyone can participate in an escrow service unless he/she has been here for a long time and is a proven trusted member of this community. Well, there are escrow services that offers their service for free. People can still look into those. One does not simply provide escrow services; trust from the community is necessary.

yeah i know it's hard, but it is very remunerative if you are trusted enough, to speed up your acceptance, besides boosting your activity first and your trust, you can do an escrow that include altcoin too or offer other services(like various items ecc...)
17730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to admit bitcoin is a failure ! on: April 15, 2015, 07:39:26 PM

The price hasn't gone up for 16 months, the only way it goes is down down lower

Then what the hell are you waiting for? Get a massive loan in bitcoins, sell them, wait for the price to go further down, buy back and repay the loan and enjoy the profit.


That's why the price drops so hard, most bag holders are dumping, is this too difficult for you to understand?

Reading comprehension issues?

Are you? op is clearly telling you that most of bag holders are dumping, understand? no one is waiting for another bubble, most are dumping. loan or not, future swaps or exchanges are all dumping.

That's how you get here at $200 and then $100 and then $30 and then $1 etc..

i know you are trolling but...a dump can't kill bitcoin, is just another price change, like many others, the fact that we dropped from 1200 to 200, does not mean that it will keep falling until $1 like you said, 1200 price was willy bot fault, so at worse it might drop at around 100, that was the price before the fake pump started

Generally speaking the hash rate will drop very hard because of negative ROI of mining (let's say $60?), at that point the bitcoin blockchain network might stop processing any transaction.
Then no one can send or receive any bitcoins anymore.
That makes no sense to me at all. I was here when BTC was worth pennies and it worked fine. If mining becomes unprofitable then miners shut down some of their mines. This is how actual mining works also. It is also how this system was designed. You may want to read "the white paper" by Satoshi Nakamoto. It may clear up some of your confusion about how bitcoin works.

the only difference i could see with the past, is a risk of 51% attack that can become more prominent, because now there are big farm that can control easily the network if the diff fall too much
17731  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: NewEgg and BTC? on: April 15, 2015, 07:29:50 PM
maybe there are some items that cannot be bought with bitcoin? or they just removed it because they are waiting for paypal to integrate bitcoin

but if i remeber well,
newEgg it delivery just in USA...

in EU it is not possile to buy from newEgg...

or recently, the things are changed???



it still for usa only, but among the language, you can see that there are others(many others)i don't know if they ship to that too, or it is only for the front page...

that's weird. if you accept bitcoin then there is no reason to exclude the purchase of certain things. it really doesn't make sense. did you ask them what the reason was for that?

if you read carefully, those thing that they are not accepting bitcoin, are not physical items, they more like services, maybe there are legal issue or security issue
17732  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bit-x or Bittrex? on: April 15, 2015, 07:27:59 PM
bit-x has a reason to apply such fee actually, they are paying numerous member a tons of bitcoin, they can't go too low with fee for that reason

and that bit2me seems to shady, they are providing only espagnol language.... i prefer circle to be honest
17733  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 15, 2015, 07:23:30 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

Investment is a kind of savings. If you are doing savings then you can not keep it in the cash form with you. You will have to invest it in Fixed deposit, Real state, gold or shares, etc.
Investment is a kind of savings I disagree with that because, investing have a risk that your money would be lost or earn a profits. Also investing take too much time than saving. Saving takes 3-5 years before you stop to save (it depends on your salary every month) but in investing takes 10-15 years depends on the contract and the company (you wouldn't assure that your money can earn or will be lost its) its 50%-50%. And f you invest you can earn more profits by using the compound interest it can earn more profit as years passes by than simple interest.

Not totally true. There are some investment tool available which has zero risk and will give you return in 3-5 years as well. That will totally depends upon the risk profile of the individual and his requirements.
Yeah theres some but its hard to find that company that zero risk. And if its only 3-5 years you profit is not high because your time is not so long and it depends on the interest of that company where your profit are big or small.

many banks offers 1-3% max of annual interest, but you need to freeze your account for one year, they should be pretty safe as far as i know, it's not like playing ponzi with bitcoin for sure...

but overall is a very tiny amount, not sure it worth it to freeze your account for one year, i know that i won't do that...
17734  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Beginner miner need advice please on: April 15, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
don't cloudmine. Get your own miner. Decentralization woot woot.



you mean solo mining(that i find it pointless unless you control something like 1% of the net) because mining in a pool is the same thing as cloud but without the physical HW, so you are still "centralized"
17735  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think mining will be profitable again ? on: April 15, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
Mining could become profitable after the next bitcoi price halving with big farms forced to close small time miners will get the rewards with a lower diff too Tongue

this assuming that the price/hash will not have the same 1:1 ratio like now, if the price rise the hash will rise too, and it won't change anything from the point of view of the mining, actually it could be worse for casual, because less coin will be distributed, but the earning will stay the same
17736  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beware Bitcoin Users! Is Bitcoin Taxation inevitable? on: April 15, 2015, 07:05:27 PM
Bitcoin is already taxed at least in the USA..... its taxed as property capital gains / loss

remember that bitcoin is only taxable even in usa, only if you convert it in fiat, otherwise you can evade taxes pretty easily, if you use something like brawker or all4btc
17737  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Something big in the next few days? on: April 15, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
The next big thing is another big drop in the price.

you should see the positive way, and the next big thing is the buying opportunity generated by the recent drop, it makes sense after all
17738  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where can I sell a large portion of my Bitcoins at once? on: April 15, 2015, 06:57:28 PM
if you plan to sell all at once, i don't recommend exchange, because you need id in order to sell such amount, and you will pay taxes for that resulting in a lower net at the end

if you can do it locally(in your zone) is better, or via localbitcoin also

Yeah, I had a felling selling them through an exchange wasn't as simple as people made it out to be. And i've been selling them locally through localbitcoin but most people just buy a couple at a time. I'm trying to sell them all (most) at once.

then Circle may work, because they don't ask you for id, but they want your legal name and phone
17739  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Do you think the Bitcoin is sustainable? on: April 15, 2015, 06:55:50 PM
it is but only for big farms, or cheap/free electricity for casual miner, around 0.07-0.05 is good already

you can eliminate electricity with renting(some of them do not include it, i'm talking about private renting too) or with cloud mining
17740  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: REAL ways to make bitcoins without spending money on: April 15, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
you can adds

escrow service(if you are good and very trusted, with a 1% you can earn a lot

selling good/digital goods here on bitcointalk, can be very remunerative
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