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this is getting obvious: after ltc pump comes btc pump.
but I dont think it will go far away.
Well LTC has the most trading volume among all cryptos, i guess it makes sense that BTC follows it for now. it makes exactly 0 sense. |
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this is getting obvious: after ltc pump comes btc pump.
but I dont think it will go far away.
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i'm in.
posts: 1093
address: 1KNYHtKqtyDdoCjRkiEqDSD6pnjEsrAymC
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yep...registered just now...so what?
i registered mainly to spread fear, uncertainty and doubts
Corrected. Name: grappa_barricataPosts: 163 Activity: 14 Position: Newbie Date Registered: August 19, 2014, 02:12:23 PMand confirmed! |
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ok, coins hit the wallet, already bought some GH.
when they will start to hash?
also, what about the fees for S3 ants, how much are they? I didnt find that info.
thanks.
Hi tarmi, There is a table in the main page of hashnest.com, you may check it through Hash Exchange -> BTC Miner thank you, I found it. when will the hashing actually start? |
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ok, coins hit the wallet, already bought some GH.
when they will start to hash?
also, what about the fees for S3 ants, how much are they? I didnt find that info.
thanks.
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registered successfully, sending some coins into wallet.
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what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.
Are there such "lifeguards" in the common stock exchanges? I would guess that their "terms of service" say that they will not be responsible for client screw-ups, not even to the extent of refunding their fees or blocking them. If they did help some clients, it would be hard for them to draw the line ("sorry, but your mistake does not qualify for refund because it was not stupid enough"). they do halt account trading for many failed login attempts, they do ban accounts for above frequent API calls, they do ban IPs sometimes for stupid reasons, so why wouldn't they ban an API key for unusual activity ? yes, for security reasons they ban your account. but incompetence is a whole new level. |
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what is happening @BTC-e shows us how fucked up these business owners they can get sometimes, in a normal fair world, the Admins notice the unusual activity from this bot and they coordinately ac, one way is by blocking the API access temporarily to prevent the bot from losing all the owner's money, I am sure the owner would be really thankful and the positive impression would be felt and reflected on all customers, but because this is Bitcoin and BTC-e we are talking about, they don't give a fuck and they are sitting happily watching the poor guy losing all this kind of money.
if someone failed with his own trading bot why should the exchange bother to bail him out? |
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Hope the new insanely expensive forum software also blocks quotes from people you ignored.
What new forum software is in the pipeline to block out parasites and deprive the trolls of there hard earned income. How cruel. I hope the new software paid in thousands of bitcoins is so advance that it will block theymos and bitcointalk itself. |
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hi bulls!
btc-e will be the last exchange to fail, mark my words.
someone is cashing out his ltc position it seems.
420 next week.
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Inadequate? What other way is there to interpret him claiming that there are no sellers left and everyone right now are buying? I'm genuinely curious, and apologies to rpietila if I misunderstood what you said. Maybe you did NOT inadequately summarize him on purpose, but you are putting a lot of new ideas into his communication that he did NOT assert. In his statement, he is merely suggesting that all sellers have gotten out already a long time ago, and there are NO sellers left. YES>>>> Maybe he is exaggerating a little bit, b/c there are going to be some exceptions to his assertion; however, what Rpietila is saying is largely true and accurate reflection of what is currently happening in the bitcoin space. no, it is not true. big asic mining companies will dump their coins no matter what the price is. You have any evidence of this? or just a bare assertion that is NOT supported by anything beyond your mere thoughts? you cant pay your electricity with bitcoins. and I know that there are asic farms that are spending 1 mil of $ every month. If you assume that ASIC farms are stretching their finances so thin that they do NOT have any fiat and they only have BTC,then maybe they would have to sell some of them. HOWEVER, if they realize that BTC are currently way under priced and that BTC are likely to appreciate in value considerably, then they may reconsider whether they will cash out. Additionally, if they realize that the BTC that they HODL are more likely to go up in value if they do NOT sell at low prices, then they will have a greater incentive to HODL until the prices go a bit higher. I would think that they have budgeted for downward trends and sideways trends in order that they do NOT have to sell out of desperation. NO one likes to have to sell out of desperation (and I am sure that there may be some miners that are thinly stretched and forced to sell, but that may be the exception rather than the rule). Accordingly, we still need evidence if you are going to assert that they are selling contrary to their better interest to HODL... or at least to minimize selling if they need to do it. I really dont care if you need more evidence. For big miners, mining is a business, so they have to cover their costs from what they mine. If they pay electricity out of their pocket because they think that the price will go up, they could just stop being a mining business and buy the coins instead. You do NOT care about evidence b/c you merely want to push your thesis that logically does NOT make sense for the reasons that I described in my earlier post. But that is fine, you can stick with your assumptions about miners being stretched razor thin and NOT realizing what is in their own interest(s). Your assumptions seem pie in the sky to me, but that does NOT mean that you cannot continue with such beliefs b/c it seems to make you feel good to suggest that 3400 coins are being dumped on the market on a daily basis.. when in fact we are likely NOT seeing such dumping. And, yes there may be some miners who are also interested in accumulating additional coins by buying some, too. if you are in a mining business - you dump your coins, unless you are a small miner who overpaid his hardware. if you dont dump your coins to pay your bills, you are not a miner anymore, but a speculator. You act as if you know something, but it really looks as if you are attempting to narrowly define concepts in order that you can be correct, but even if you narrowly define concepts, you seem to have NO evidence regarding the level to which there may be a supposed prevalence of miners who "dump their coins" in the real world. It makes little to NO logical sense for the reasons that I already described in my earlier post, and your making definitions does NOT shed better light on what is ACTUALLY taking place IN THE REAL WORLD. I dont need evidences. I dont have to measure or speculate the number of coins that miners dump everyday. for me definition of a mining business and the fact that there are new 3600 coins everyday are enough to conclude that there will be ALWAYS some selling pressure from the miners. with ASICs and concentration of hash in bigger farms more then ever actually. |
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Inadequate? What other way is there to interpret him claiming that there are no sellers left and everyone right now are buying? I'm genuinely curious, and apologies to rpietila if I misunderstood what you said. Maybe you did NOT inadequately summarize him on purpose, but you are putting a lot of new ideas into his communication that he did NOT assert. In his statement, he is merely suggesting that all sellers have gotten out already a long time ago, and there are NO sellers left. YES>>>> Maybe he is exaggerating a little bit, b/c there are going to be some exceptions to his assertion; however, what Rpietila is saying is largely true and accurate reflection of what is currently happening in the bitcoin space. no, it is not true. big asic mining companies will dump their coins no matter what the price is. You have any evidence of this? or just a bare assertion that is NOT supported by anything beyond your mere thoughts? you cant pay your electricity with bitcoins. and I know that there are asic farms that are spending 1 mil of $ every month. If you assume that ASIC farms are stretching their finances so thin that they do NOT have any fiat and they only have BTC,then maybe they would have to sell some of them. HOWEVER, if they realize that BTC are currently way under priced and that BTC are likely to appreciate in value considerably, then they may reconsider whether they will cash out. Additionally, if they realize that the BTC that they HODL are more likely to go up in value if they do NOT sell at low prices, then they will have a greater incentive to HODL until the prices go a bit higher. I would think that they have budgeted for downward trends and sideways trends in order that they do NOT have to sell out of desperation. NO one likes to have to sell out of desperation (and I am sure that there may be some miners that are thinly stretched and forced to sell, but that may be the exception rather than the rule). Accordingly, we still need evidence if you are going to assert that they are selling contrary to their better interest to HODL... or at least to minimize selling if they need to do it. I really dont care if you need more evidence. For big miners, mining is a business, so they have to cover their costs from what they mine. If they pay electricity out of their pocket because they think that the price will go up, they could just stop being a mining business and buy the coins instead. You do NOT care about evidence b/c you merely want to push your thesis that logically does NOT make sense for the reasons that I described in my earlier post. But that is fine, you can stick with your assumptions about miners being stretched razor thin and NOT realizing what is in their own interest(s). Your assumptions seem pie in the sky to me, but that does NOT mean that you cannot continue with such beliefs b/c it seems to make you feel good to suggest that 3400 coins are being dumped on the market on a daily basis.. when in fact we are likely NOT seeing such dumping. And, yes there may be some miners who are also interested in accumulating additional coins by buying some, too. if you are in a mining business - you dump your coins, unless you are a small miner who overpaid his hardware. if you dont dump your coins to pay your bills, you are not a miner anymore, but a speculator. it is simple as that. we can only speculate about the number of coins being market dumped, but I really dont need that information. all I have to know is that there are new 3600 coins out there everyday. |
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Inadequate? What other way is there to interpret him claiming that there are no sellers left and everyone right now are buying? I'm genuinely curious, and apologies to rpietila if I misunderstood what you said. Maybe you did NOT inadequately summarize him on purpose, but you are putting a lot of new ideas into his communication that he did NOT assert. In his statement, he is merely suggesting that all sellers have gotten out already a long time ago, and there are NO sellers left. YES>>>> Maybe he is exaggerating a little bit, b/c there are going to be some exceptions to his assertion; however, what Rpietila is saying is largely true and accurate reflection of what is currently happening in the bitcoin space. no, it is not true. big asic mining companies will dump their coins no matter what the price is. You have any evidence of this? or just a bare assertion that is NOT supported by anything beyond your mere thoughts? you cant pay your electricity with bitcoins. and I know that there are asic farms that are spending 1 mil of $ every month. If you assume that ASIC farms are stretching their finances so thin that they do NOT have any fiat and they only have BTC,then maybe they would have to sell some of them. HOWEVER, if they realize that BTC are currently way under priced and that BTC are likely to appreciate in value considerably, then they may reconsider whether they will cash out. Additionally, if they realize that the BTC that they HODL are more likely to go up in value if they do NOT sell at low prices, then they will have a greater incentive to HODL until the prices go a bit higher. I would think that they have budgeted for downward trends and sideways trends in order that they do NOT have to sell out of desperation. NO one likes to have to sell out of desperation (and I am sure that there may be some miners that are thinly stretched and forced to sell, but that may be the exception rather than the rule). Accordingly, we still need evidence if you are going to assert that they are selling contrary to their better interest to HODL... or at least to minimize selling if they need to do it. I really dont care if you need more evidence. For big miners, mining is a business, so they have to cover their costs from what they mine. If they pay electricity out of their pocket because they think that the price will go up, they could just stop being a mining business and buy the coins instead. |
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Inadequate? What other way is there to interpret him claiming that there are no sellers left and everyone right now are buying? I'm genuinely curious, and apologies to rpietila if I misunderstood what you said. Maybe you did NOT inadequately summarize him on purpose, but you are putting a lot of new ideas into his communication that he did NOT assert. In his statement, he is merely suggesting that all sellers have gotten out already a long time ago, and there are NO sellers left. YES>>>> Maybe he is exaggerating a little bit, b/c there are going to be some exceptions to his assertion; however, what Rpietila is saying is largely true and accurate reflection of what is currently happening in the bitcoin space. no, it is not true. big asic mining companies will dump their coins no matter what the price is. You have any evidence of this? or just a bare assertion that is NOT supported by anything beyond your mere thoughts? you cant pay your electricity with bitcoins. and I know that there are asic farms that are spending 1 mil of $ every month. |
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Inadequate? What other way is there to interpret him claiming that there are no sellers left and everyone right now are buying? I'm genuinely curious, and apologies to rpietila if I misunderstood what you said. Maybe you did NOT inadequately summarize him on purpose, but you are putting a lot of new ideas into his communication that he did NOT assert. In his statement, he is merely suggesting that all sellers have gotten out already a long time ago, and there are NO sellers left. YES>>>> Maybe he is exaggerating a little bit, b/c there are going to be some exceptions to his assertion; however, what Rpietila is saying is largely true and accurate reflection of what is currently happening in the bitcoin space. no, it is not true. big asic mining companies will dump their coins no matter what the price is. |
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sub 500 soon.
sorry bulls.
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