After reading the whole thread and the replies in it I must say that we should stop the debate here because it won't be helpful at all and if this conversation continues then it will be another topic of the P&S, and that's not going to be a good thing for the reputation board. I respect @1miau and @mikeywith as both of them are among the reputed members of the forum who have been contributing good stuff to the forum, and that's why taking favor of one party while opposing other is not going to be any helpful.

I'm not someone highly interested into politics because I believe that politics can create differences between us as humans and we may hate our brother just because of the politics and ideologies. We should think more about the progress of the humanity and human civilization rather than taking part in political conflicts which aren't going to be resolved any sooner because if they get resolved then who will purchase the war weapons which are meant to be used during the conflicts.

I don't really read news a lot because it will be very hard for me to see someone suffering and I'm the one who can't do anything to relieve someone's sufferings. Although, I can't do any thing individually to help those who suffer from the conflicts of others but if I see those sufferings then as a human I can feel their pain, but unfortunately I can't relieve their pain and suffering. Here in this forum we all are supposed to be here to help and support the Bitcoin project and we all should keep our personal and political debates aside and try our best to contribute as much for the Bitcoin community and for this amazing forum as we possibly can. I won't be saying more words because I'm quite sure that someone who get hurt from my words so I'm just requesting you guys to resolve the political issues and don't let those issues ruin your forum activities.

It's a great news for Bitcoin community because now our friends from that country won't face any troubles in accumulation Bitcoin because someone who's a lover of Bitcoin would always try his best to support it and will allow anyone to own Bitcoin. Who knows that in future that president allows the citizens of the country to have Bitcoin without any restrictions and that will be a good thing I guess.

If isn't either hard to support crypto mostly Bitcoin in front of assembly because Bitcoin has been there for more than 13 years and anyone who poses any finger against it should be referred to its history that how much growth it has got in a single decade. I'm quite sure that he will be able to convince everyone to make Bitcoin friendly initiatives in his country because that will be helpful for everyone not only for himself. I believe that we may see huge support for Bitcoin from Argentina during the presidentship of that guy. Let's be optimistic about his leadership because he's part of the Bitcoin community and surely he will do his best to take Bitcoin a step above.

2031 isn't late if you see the growth of GDP per year then it would be really hard for Bitcoin to be a 10-20 trillion asset in 2028 or 2029. The total GDP of the world in 2022 was around $100.56 Trillion according to the world bank and it's expected that the total GDP of the world in 2023 will be around $105 Trillion and with such small growth the total GDP of the world will be around $131 Trillion to $140 Trillion by year 2030 or 2031. I also believe that it would be amazing to see Bitcoin getting $20 Trillion out of that $131 Trillion into into its marketcap but that will be more like a dream then reality.



Yeah, I believe that we might see ETF's getting approved in the month of December and that would trigger the price of Bitcoin to reach $50k easily. I know the odds aren't in the favor of this idea and $50k in 2023's December seems a little bit higher than other predictions but surely if the ETF gets approved then in a matter of days we'll see huge price pumps.


Yeah, I think that BTC price will pump over previous ATH in 2024 but it won't be able to achieve the full ATH of this coming bull market in 2024. I guess it will be a little difficult for Bitcoin to cross $60k to $70k in 2024's after the halving but once it achieves that then we may see a price correction again and in late 2024 we may see Bitcoin's price over $90k or beyond and yes $100k is going to be a tough one to cross.  




Nope that's the bare minimum that I'm expecting but I guess it may reach $150k to $200k in 2025 and that's a possibility I guess. But, for that we will have to see more activity from the investors and man the BlackRock alone is a giant so anything can happen in 2025.  


I guess we will see the correction that would be a little bit below $69k if Bitcoin reaches the ATH of around $120k but if makes $150k or $200k ATH then I'm pretty sure that it won't be going below $80k but surely if something like the previous bear market takes place then the price may go below $70k for sometime, and I believe that would be the best price in those years for accumulators.


I'm not saying that in 2031 we will be selling all of our BTC holdings but some of it so we can enjoy other things in life but a few people may hold Bitcoin even if it crosses $1M price mark and I would consider those people extremely long-sighted. Well, theoretically Bitcoin can reach $5 to $50M in value but that thing surely won't happen sooner.

Yep, that will be a new ATH but that won't be the bull market's All Time High that we all are expecting. I believe when Bitcoin crosses $69k then that would be considered as a new ATH but it will still have the potential to go beyond that price tag in the coming bull run and reaches to a price mark which will then be the ATH that we are expecting to see.

In 40 days Bitcoin Spot ETF will be approved and guess what we will see Bitcoin at $50k even if it doesn't gets approved.
In 140 days the block reward will be cut into half and we will see Bitcoin price over $60k or a new ATH that's going to be higher then the previous ATH.
In 2024 Bitcoin will reach over $90k by December.
In 2025 we will se Bitcoin going over $120k and we will see a new ATH in that year.
In 2026-2027 we will see another bear market which may help accumulators to accumulate more Bitcoin.
In 2028 A Bitcoin will be worth more than $300k
In 2029-2030 a Bitcoin will be over $700k or maybe at $1M.
In 2031 most of us would be enjoy the best moments of our lives by selling some of our holdings.

This thread sounds like Mt. Gox promises and I guess that the users will have to wait their whole lives to get refunded because such cases never get solved, and the Betnomi will continue to create such threads in order to give hopes to the users who has lost their funds. If Betnomi is really committed to refunding the users then it's a good thing but I still think they will just make such promises and won't refund anyone.

I haven't yet checked Casino500 but yeah Roobet is a quite good platform and I have played some games on their platform a few weeks ago. I don't currently play anymore with them because I have been busy with some other work for some time but surely they are among the reputed casinos that we have on our forum.

I hope that Roobet may offer those contests for many upcoming months and I would say that congratulations to you for winning most of the contests and man your panting and drawing skills are at another level. I haven't tested their new game but yeah I used to play crash on Roobet and the experience was quite entertaining.

Man, 14 years and we now have something that no one expected. The forum has grown to way higher levels then expected and if I'm not wrong then the forum used to be hosted on another site and basically it was a built in board of that site but now the forum is on its own domain name and people know it by the name of Bitcointalk.org which is a great achievement.

I would say thumbs up to all those people who contributed to the forum in its early days and it's because of those people that we are still using this forum. This forum is only of the most important things in the lives of the users who post here and some of us enjoy spending hours on this forum.

Congratulations on 14th birthday of the forum and I hope that after 6 more years we will be celebrating the 20th anniversary of this amazing forum and surely by then the worth of a single Bitcoin will be over $250k or maybe over $1M a coin.

It's our optimistic thinking that has helped us to be here for more than 14 years and I'm proud to say that I have been a member of this forum since 2016 and it has been a life changer for me.

Yes, I think it would be better in a form of a online site page where we could read the analysis instead of downloading an app that we can't trust or that might contain malicious code in it. In fact it's going to be way easier to make an online version of such analysis because it would online require HTML and nothing else.

Let's say if the OP want us to read the report in the form of an app because he/she wants to earn revenue from the google ads then still we as users are worried that the file may come with malware that could be harmful for our smartphones. I would say that OP you should either make an online version of it or make it in a form of e-documents so the users can read it without risking their devices.

There isn't a single best thing that happened in my life because of Bitcoin but many best things that happened in my life because of Bitcoin. I was also late in knowing about Bitcoin, I learnt about Bitcoin in 2016, and since then I have got a lot of things in my life only because of Bitcoin that I would never get if Bitcoin wasn't there.

I can say that I'm currently living my life with no financial problems and all thanks goes to Bitcoin only. I'm also a trader I can say that it's because of Bitcoin we see those crypto exchanges where people can easily trade Bitcoin with other coins and earn profits for the work. Not only you but we all are thankful to Satoshi for creating this amazing payment option for us.

I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk but yeah Starship is a good project as it will allow us to see the other side of the picture which we aren't fully aware of yet but unfortunately I think their spaceship failed once again. But, hell yeah Bitcoin's price in 2025 won't disappoint us because it isn't the property of that Musk.

Investing is matter of someone's understanding about an assert or a market because if someone isn't knowledgeable about an asset then that person may not invest their money into it. This forum is a good place for those investors who want to invest money into Bitcoin and earn some good profits from their investments.

There are many good investors who fortunately are the members of this forum and they have been sharing some details about their investments into Bitcoin with other users. Some users get motivated after reading the investments of those users and I believe if someone who's active in WO thread can easily guess that who those users are.

I would say that @philipma1957, @JJG, @LFC_Bitcoin and a few others who share some details about investing into Bitcoin on that thread. I believe that those who give up aren't investors at all because they don't know anything about investing. In investing we sometimes lose while sometimes we gain huge profits. It's a great journey which doesn't ends and if someone is into it then that person will continue to invest.

That's quite interesting to know because I guess that you and only a few other members may have that many logged in days on this forum. Most of the members of the forum haven't even completed their 100th logged in day and only a few have completed their 365 logged in days.

Is it possible for others to see your logged in days or only you can see that? If I'm not wrong then the administrators or moderators might be able to see the users logged in time. Are third-party sites like BPIP.org, or Loyce.club or Ninjastic.space can determine the exact logged time or those sites are unable to determine those things?

Those calculators won't be able to tell us an exact date about Bitcoin's next halving but they will continue to give us estimated dates based on the calculations. I believe that next halving is going to occur during 2024 and if we see the yearly thing then there is no need to go with the exact date. By the way after halving it will still take Bitcoin sometime to go to it's ATH and that's why the halving is just an indicator for that upcoming ATH that we all want to see.

Most of the altcoins are useless and can be manipulated by the creators. On the other hand Bitcoin isn't manipulatable by its creator or someone else so in that simple sense Bitcoin is unique. I'm not a big fan of altcoins but sometimes I use to trade with those altcoins when I see some profitable moves as a trader but most of those altcoins are totally useless and someone who delves into altcoins without proper research or luck may lose a lot of money.

There are some good projects in the altcoins world but still those are risky as compare to Bitcoin, and I believe if someone wants to go with the route of altcoins then that user has to choose only few reputed altcoins that have been known to perform well for many years. New altcoins aren't good at all and investing in those coins is just like gambling, so it's always better to go with old and known altcoins instead of going with new altcoins.

Are you going to pay the users with Bitcoin or something else? Because here in this forum the services board is mostly for Bitcoin payments and if someone doesn't pay with Bitcoin then such threads should not be posted here. I also want to know that what type of e-mails the user has to send because if the e-mail contain something illegal then the user might face troubles.

I would also want to know that are you going to have a trusted escrow from this forum or you're going to send the money yourself because if you deposit some funds with a trusted escrow then people may still want to work for you.

Can you tell us that how will you pay the users who work for you? Are you going to pay them half money in advance and half when job is completed or you're going to pay them when they complete the job? I'm quite sure that you will choose the 2nd option because that way you'll get your work done and you won't pay the ones who have completed your work.

You already have 2 red tags from the reputed members of the forum and I believe you should stop making such posts because no one will trust you or want to work with you. I don't believe that someone like you will even pay $1 for the hard work of sending 500 e-mails a day and anyone who works with you may get scammed.

Oh buddy, it took you so long to post this thread because you have created your account in 2018 and you have posted this thread in final quarter of 2023. Why you are still a newbie even after knowing about this forum since 2018? I mean anyone could learn and improve their posting in that long duration but you hardly have 12 posts and in this thread you're trying to guide other newbies about the style of posting.

Just be a real person buddy and start making some good posts yourself and get ranked to a higher level before creating threads like this because such threads can misguide others as you haven't reached any good rank level yourself and you're trying to teach others about it.

Sometimes quality matter a lot but sometimes quantity doesn't mean that posts are low in quality and are posted only to increase the post count of a members. Every member has their own posting style and if we keep that in mind then some members tend to make more posts than others but those posts are good in quality while other members make less number of posts but those posts lack quality in them.

I must say that the more a member contributes the better response and appreciation he/she gets from the other members of the forum. A member who makes 10 good and helpful posts contributes more to the community than a member you posts 2 good and helpful posts.

Well, Bitcoin is something that's for the ones who are good at technology and I believe that most women don't really care much about technology and financial things because they mostly want to earn and spend and that's how they do while men are good at technology and also at financial things and they mostly want to be rich and have good status in a society.

I have seen many women who really don't care much about money because they believe that if men are earning money then they can spend that money for the shopping purposes. Especially, in South Asia very few women want to do any kind of thing that would make them money, the number of women as sellers is also low, and their number is also low in real estate.

Those women who are interested in Bitcoin are pretty good at technology and at the same time they have business mindset which most of the women don't have by nature or because of the rules of the society. I would say "Thumbs up," for those women who are interested in Bitcoin because they will be very few in number but they understanding about finance is as good as men. In fact, I believe that women can handle most of the things better than men.

They are against mixers because the mixers are known to increase privacy of the coins and they don't want the coins to have high privacy. They mostly favor the centralized exchanges because those exchanges share user details with them and that's will help them to speculate those users.

Fiat is more likely to be used for illegal activities than Bitcoin or any other crypto-currency because fiat is available in digital form as well and can be transferred to anyone without any question.

Fiat is also available in physical form and people tend to do more illegal activities with fiat in physical form which we call as cash, and fortunately Bitcoin isn't a physical thing and that's good for everyone.

It's a fact that completely halt down of Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies won't stop the people from doing their illegal activities. Those people will do their illegal activities even without Bitcoin and they have been doing such illegal activities for so many centuries when even Bitcoin wasn't there.

Well, I believe that Bitcoin can still make many people rich who are into the field of trading because the volatility of Bitcoin is still better than many stocks and the ones who are good at Bitcoin trading can still earn substantial amount of income from it. But, I agree that anyone who still buys Bitcoin and hold it for 2-4 years may not get rich because the price won't grow as crazily as it used to grow.