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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Bitcoin Interest - new progpow algorithm

on: January 14, 2019, 01:32:05 PM

Quote from: dragonmike on January 14, 2019, 01:14:59 PM Quote from: pbfarmer on January 11, 2019, 11:18:59 PM Quote from: dragonmike on January 11, 2019, 12:30:20 PM Quote from: pbfarmer on January 11, 2019, 10:26:08 AM Quote from: dragonmike on January 08, 2019, 05:55:42 PM Quote from: Marvell2 on September 26, 2018, 04:08:49 PM Quote from: dragonmike on September 26, 2018, 12:06:25 PM Quote from: nitrobg on September 26, 2018, 11:41:51 AM Quote from: dragonmike on September 26, 2018, 09:18:31 AM ...ignoring the fact it's a very power hungry algo. You know that the power depends on the voltage, right? Lower the power limit to 50% on nvidia or lower the voltage/core clock on amd and it'll draw less than ethereum. Nobody is forcing you to run at max power level, especially when the efficiency of hash/watt decreases with the power draw. Lyra2z can still be mined at the original power level. You can simply lift the limit up and it'll hash more. ProgPow and most other core-based algorithms scale perfectly well with core count and doesn't have these weird discrepancies where a weak card (RX 570) hashes as much as a twice more expensive one (GTX 1070). That way you can get 2x more performance from 2x more expensive card, so it just balances it out. RX 570 and 580 will be as powerful as GTX 1060 3 and 6GB. Vega 56/64 will be as powerful as GTX 1070/1070Ti. Yes, there are algorithms where AMD or NVIDIA are still better, but right now we're focusing on ProgPow. I think you missed the point. Of course you can lower the power limit on ProgPow. I'm doing just that with my Vega cards for example. I need to drop it by 30% to keep a rig of six Vega64's under 1400W... Which unfortunately it has a large impact on the hashrate. So it might improve your efficiency (slightly) but not enough to make it remarkably more profitable. On RX 570's dropping PL by only 10% radically lowers hashrate and it worsens as you go lower. @dragonmike ? are your vegas modded with power play tables etc ? I have 8 vegas and they are all modded voltages are like 850 to 800 for thr core and they pull no more than 160 to 180 watts even on x16 , progpow and like 140 watts on cn forks . vegas must be power play modded with that spreadsheet unless you have refernce card which has a power play mod floating around. I never even touch the power limit on any of my amd cards, it’s overdriven tool for my rx cards and powerplay plus overdriven for the vegas. My vegas are my best mining cards hash/watt. btw why is there no power play mod for rx cards? Holy thread resurrection batman! Actually I had never seen that answer so happy days. I am indeed running a modded soft PP table on the Vegas. But I can't run such low voltages or the cards will crash. I've got reference Sapphire RX Vega 56's flashed to 64's btw. Have you got AIB Vegas? This is my reg file, in case someone can spot anything terrible in it: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 Get in touch via bitcointalk on updates or further development wishes. User brnsted ETH A13015081E1f9CF27A2843e2A623F362D0d08666 XMR 47NgZN7Mp5CcfKzUKhFHXiMuXghudzFegUPWaTUJU71QVze3P1o2gd9MuhroHrYGAH1spqWEWDrnvUp eqFCic8B772ySpCM [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0005] "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable"=hex:B6,02,08,01,00,5C,00,E1,06,00,00,EE,2B,00,00,1B,\ 00,48,00,00,00,80,A9,03,00,F0,49,02,00,8E,00,08,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,02,01,5C,00,4F,02,46,02,94,00,9E,01,BE,00,28,01,7A,00,8C,00,\ BC,01,00,00,00,00,72,02,00,00,90,00,A8,02,6D,01,43,01,97,01,F0,49,02,00,71,\ 02,02,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,08,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,05,00,07,00,03,00,05,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,01,08,20,03,52,03,52,03,52,03,52,03,52,03,6B,03,89,03,01,\ 01,89,03,01,01,84,03,00,08,60,EA,00,00,00,40,19,01,00,01,80,38,01,00,02,DC,\ 4A,01,00,03,90,5F,01,00,04,00,77,01,00,05,90,91,01,00,06,C0,D4,01,00,07,01,\ 08,D0,4C,01,00,00,00,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,1C,83,01,00,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,70,A7,01,00,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,88,BC,01,00,03,00,00,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,38,C1,01,00,04,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,88,D5,01,00,05,00,00,00,00,\ 01,00,00,00,70,D9,01,00,06,00,00,00,00,01,00,00,00,00,26,02,00,07,00,00,00,\ 00,01,00,00,00,00,05,60,EA,00,00,00,40,19,01,00,00,80,38,01,00,00,DC,4A,01,\ 00,00,90,5F,01,00,00,00,08,28,6E,00,00,00,2C,C9,00,00,01,F8,0B,01,00,02,80,\ 38,01,00,03,90,5F,01,00,04,F4,91,01,00,05,D0,B0,01,00,06,C0,D4,01,00,07,00,\ 08,6C,39,00,00,00,24,5E,00,00,01,FC,85,00,00,02,AC,BC,00,00,03,34,D0,00,00,\ 04,68,6E,01,00,05,08,97,01,00,06,EC,A3,01,00,07,00,01,68,3C,01,00,00,01,04,\ 3C,41,00,00,00,00,00,50,C3,00,00,00,00,00,80,38,01,00,02,00,00,A0,86,01,00,\ 04,00,00,01,08,00,98,85,00,00,40,B5,00,00,60,EA,00,00,50,C3,00,00,01,80,BB,\ 00,00,60,EA,00,00,94,0B,01,00,50,C3,00,00,02,00,E1,00,00,94,0B,01,00,40,19,\ 01,00,50,C3,00,00,03,78,FF,00,00,40,19,01,00,88,26,01,00,50,C3,00,00,04,40,\ 19,01,00,80,38,01,00,80,38,01,00,50,C3,00,00,05,80,38,01,00,DC,4A,01,00,DC,\ 4A,01,00,50,C3,00,00,06,00,77,01,00,00,77,01,00,90,5F,01,00,50,C3,00,00,07,\ 90,91,01,00,90,91,01,00,00,77,01,00,50,C3,00,00,01,18,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\ 0B,E4,12,60,09,60,09,4B,00,0A,00,54,03,90,01,90,01,90,01,90,01,90,01,90,01,\ 90,01,00,00,00,00,00,02,04,31,07,DC,00,DC,00,DC,00,90,01,00,00,59,00,69,00,\ 4A,00,4A,00,5F,00,73,00,73,00,64,00,40,00,90,92,97,60,96,00,90,55,00,00,00,\ 00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,02,D4,30,00,00,02,10,60,EA,00,\ 00,02,10 In my experience w/ a number of other algos (haven't tested PP yet,) AIB and ref aren't all that different performance or efficiency wise - mainly it's just about cooling. As for your PPT, i can say for certain that at least on CNv2, those voltages would be completely unnecessary for those clocks - even using TRM which is the most taxing CNv2 miner out there. Just as @Marvell2 stated - 800-850mv (avg about 840) is what seems to be necessary for an 1107 SOC clock, while also running a core clock in the range you're using. Furthermore, given you're flashed to a 64 bios, you should be able to go up to an 1107 mem clock w/ no change to voltage - whether that provides any benefit to this algo vs your 1000Mhz setting, I'm not sure. The PPT has set SoC at 1200. I run mem clocks between 1100 and 1140 on CNv2 depending on the GPU. I need to give the core at least 950mV via mem_P3 in overdriventool for 1408 MHz or else the cards will crash (975 for the weaker cards). So I'm really not sure how people get theirs to mine at 800-850mV, it's very far beyond reach for my 6 cards for sure. ...unless I am doing something wrong. Your top SOC is 1200, but you only run that w/ a mem clock over 1107. For <= 1107 clocks in mem state P3, you'll be running an 1107 SOC, which is the major factor (possibly more so than core clock) in what voltage you'll need. So a mem clock range from 1100-1140 can cause a massive power swing - right at 1108Mhz. 1200 SOC requires around 900mv, 1107 requires ~835mv (+/- 10mv) from my experience - at least w/ CNv2. SOC and core seem to share voltage lines, so depending on core clock, those numbers can go up/down. For instance, w/ ethash, core frequency can go all the way down to 850MHz (if not lower, but that's the driver floor) w/o affecting performance, which leaves a lot of power headroom for SOC - i can get my 64s all the way down to 805mv still running 1107 mem. 950-975mv sounds really high to me, even for a 1200 SOC. At least for CNv2, that would be crazy high. It's possible PP is super taxing on the core, pulling more power that way, and thus starving the SOC causing instability. But if you keep your mem under 1107, it's hard to believe you would need even 900mv. Sounds like something else - I run ref Sapphires as well as Nitros, and they all behave roughly how I've detailed here. Btw, I'm assuming samsung mem? maybe diff if hynix - possible that you're just running too high clocks for it. Otherwise, if it's not your settings, maybe you have a power delivery problem? Thanks for the good insight, it's given me food for thought. I'll have to test with mem clocks under 1107 and check if I can lower core voltage accordingly. They are ref Sapphires and do have Samsung memory indeed. The power delivery, huh. Who knows. I've got an EVGA 1600 G2 to power the six of them which leaves enough headroom, at least for CNv1/2. They are all plugged on an Onda D1800 board, which might actually be the culprit. I'm not sure how well built that board is. There might just be power leakage/loss from there. try only 3 cards and alternate the slots. I used to do that with that board and it allowed me to push cards pretty hard.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

on: January 14, 2019, 03:04:59 AM

yeah I think a cord that does not work for a usa socket comes with it. Been too lazy to rewire them. To OG they are only okay due to the new solar array deal I got into with buysolar. I would not do these with out that deal.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

on: January 14, 2019, 01:33:40 AM

Mine has landed in New York I will post when I get it. If I like it I will buy more.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / This is a reliability thread may not keep it open long.

on: January 14, 2019, 12:02:48 AM

Bitmain S15's T15's Whatsminer M10's Innosilicon T3 yet to ship T2T-32T the gear above is the most efficient gear there is for sha 256. I am trying to determine if there is a reliability issue with them. I am aware that the T3 is yet to ship. All of the units come with a psu that you have to use. So I am trying to figure out if they break easily.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 11:54:06 PM

well so far one guy with 5 units running 3 at 208 volt input high speed = good to go running 2 at 240.8 volt input high speed = dead psu's not enough to say gear is fucked up but enough for all owners to watch units carefully and make notes of the input voltage. another guy with 4 units all four at high speed. 2 run hot and shut down 2 run okay and don't shut down It is new tech and bitmain has had new tech struggle during early batches. fanatic26 usually has a lot of gear running. maybe he can post his s15 numbers if he has them setup.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 11:29:54 PM

Well I have gone as 247 very rarely. So if 240+ is an issue on both low setting and high setting I can’t use these that easily. Lots of USA buyers will be complaining since lots of us go from 237 to 245. Maybe it was just bad luck. Years back the s7ln would have issues. And the s4 or s2 had psu issues. This will need to be watched for carefully.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 08:41:18 PM

Yeah this likely it a spike above 243 is common in my area. Even 245 can happen. I almost never drop below 237. And of course my 120 is often 121 or 122 and I almost never drop to 118. I am guessing full power at 243 volts + equals psu death We will need more confirmation of this to be sure. We need a spare psu or 2 to test top limits. This could be a real issue to USA miners as many of us get 238 to 245 for our 240 lines. My new buildout with buysolar will be 40kwatt constant 240 but it could flux to 245. This means no s15 or t15 on the 240 lines. Although this guys warehouse has. 208 240 480 So if we do some s15 we will do it on the 208 . If someone can get spare psus we can test at 245 and see if there is a burn out at low power setting on the miner.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 05:32:58 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on January 13, 2019, 04:45:56 PM I have ordered one S15 from Bitmain and I will do a review when I receive it. Please let us know high speed hash low speed hash high speed watts low speed watts high speed volts in low speed volts in all temps of all boards on all settings TIA phil

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Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Group buy Whatsminer M10 USD 885/set

on: January 13, 2019, 03:08:23 PM

Quote from: lvl on January 13, 2019, 02:27:40 AM Quote from: Steamtyme on January 12, 2019, 04:18:11 AM So I see some red flag here. This is your first post in over a year, at least it is still somewhat inline with your previous posting history. Your password was also recently changed. Now for the miners, anyone currently looking can buy these models from Pangolin for 799USD, and I believe they even give you a promo code for a slight discount. There are 2 models available. 1 model is more expensive. Perhaps you are a legit representative, and your company provides these services. You should maintain a service thread to promote all aspects of your business. This way you can use this board for specifically for the hardware you are selling. That's just my opninion. You are fine to post the product here, but you should also post images and payment information for that product. Then feel free to promote and link to your service thread. Thank you for your good advice. I saw Pangolin at $1022. This ID has always been used by me. We have been serving Chinese miners for 5 years. Our website cybtc.com and English station cybtc.org have not changed and have been updated daily. Last year, we mainly focused on the development of mining pools. In addition, we are in Yunnan, there are many hydropower stations, and we will put photos of the mines later. Cybtc Review: MicroBT Whatsminer M10 English：http://www.cybtc.org/portal.php?mod=view&aid=124 Chinese：https://www.cybtc.com/thread-38022-1-1.html Your are very close to being tagged a scammer for that statement. Here is the deal. Pangolinminer has the 31th model for 799-10 = 789+90 to ship to USA this is about 880. You are very clever to say you saw pangolin for 1025 it is true but that is for the 33th model. Not the 31th model you are selling. For once I would like to see a guy say yeah phil you are correct I was being sly with that statement as I knew it was for the better model. To all reading this seller is either clever and said a half truth with that statement or completely innocent and made a mistake . Which is why I did not tag him. I will say I have purchased 1 m3 1 m10 33th 2 m10 31th From pangolinminer.com with no issues. And no clever statements like : I saw 1025 for a m10 on pangolin.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 02:59:54 PM

So on your power meters you read 200 ? I am asking since you could drop under 200 if you normally read 200. The gear says 200-240. So if 243 kills them. What would 195 do? My guess is a shut down. My next guess is Low setting will be fine for s15 or t15. At 190 to 250. But. High speed you will need to be say 201 to 238. I would ask for those with the gear to read volts suppiled and speed you run at. Maybe we can get an idea if this is true. I had asked blokforge to sell me one via cc. He missed my pm and when he contacted me I had purchased 8 k in other gear. So I will be needing to mine longer before I get one of these. As I will no longer purchase direct from bitmain due to trump tax. I may get an s15 from a private sale in feb. Till then I won’t be testing or showing them. It is important to see if the psu really needs to stay inside 200-240 to run high speed safely . So those that have them please give us info.

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: I'm against progpow

on: January 13, 2019, 02:46:31 PM

I am all for progpow. @d57heinz Yeah it is a bitch chasing when you have to react to their moves. We don’t have the ability to be the pusher so we are the pushed. I have 12 1080ti mining BCI I have 4 Vegas mini BCI I mine around 110 coins a week. The only reason it works for me to do this is dirt cheap power due to solar array deals. All my mining in house mines at a loss. Thus I don’t mine much in house mostly for demos and setups. The game now is strictly lowest power cost wins.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain will be releasing S15 and T15 on 8/11/2018

on: January 13, 2019, 12:35:45 PM

did you choose full speed or low speed? seems to me you choose full speed. I wonder if 240 volts and low speed is safe and 240 volts and high speed is not safe also does your 240 volt setup run hot say 243 volts to 245 volts. My home can be 238 to 246 volts. It could be you drifted past 240 to 243-246 and on high speed they power down. I wonder if they would have been fine on low speed. So this now brings us to 5 issues for the s15's in this thread. As of today I think no one has said the m10 has had a fail. I mention this because the t15 s15 m10 are the three best units for mining as of now. It will be interesting to see if the t15 and s15 get better the s9 got better. it will be interesting to see if the m10 stays trouble free.

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place.

on: January 13, 2019, 11:33:59 AM

Quote from: ljconstructionpa on January 13, 2019, 06:07:35 AM https://wwwcudominercom/?a=N5XGAJBbt Check this out. this is like nice hash i think. not at all like nicehash it is software I will look at it on a more secure pc I disabled link and deleted post as I am not sure it is a safe link

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Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Feeler: 12x Antminer L3+ / 12x Innosilicon A4+ LTCMaster (Incl. PSU, USA Only)

on: January 12, 2019, 10:28:08 PM

This seems to have died.

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Economy / Computer hardware / Re: New: 31TH MicroBT WhatsMiner M10 For Sale

on: January 12, 2019, 10:10:24 PM

I have been buying from a different source, but I may want some of these. I will pm you.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

on: January 12, 2019, 05:46:42 PM

Quote from: minefarmbuy on January 12, 2019, 04:40:18 PM DHL is always 3 days express, you'll know more obviously when tracking is sent. Watch for duties with a unit count of 2 since the package will be above de minimus value. I think he is Canada and is subject to 5% but I talk to so many people in pm's I am not sure if I have him placed correctly. It is cold in NJ today about -1C or 31f So I cranked it up to full power it is doing 31.3 th at 2275 watts which is 72 watts I don't mind that it is less efficient as the place in the new solar array will let us do 50-50 on coins. This should be a good setup for us. A mix of new gear and old gear. 4 M10's = 130th = 9200 watts 15 s9's = 200th = 19125 watts 1 A921 = 20th = 1900 watts 2 A721 = 10th = 2100 watts 4 S7ln = 10th = 2400 watts 1 t2turbo = 20th = 1600 watts 10 L3+ = 5gh = 11200 watts total of 47525 watts the way New Jersey Works we need establish a 40kwatts 24/7/365 power draw so we will pull 50kwatts for 4-6 months get the solar in and drop to 40kwatts the A721 the s7ln do 4kwatts and will be dropped first then we will drop s9's 5 s9s' is 6.5 kwatts that is 10.5 so we would be under 40 as 47.5-10.5 = 37kwatts we will be adding m10's 1 at a time for months to come. so the current 390 th will grow even thou we drop our watts from 47kwatt to 37kwatt what is nice is the warehouse is so big we can provide 90kwatts 18x 30 amp 240 volt circuits only 40kwatt would be solar but if we get a runup in coins we can fire up the old gear. the plan is to go all m10 as 16 x 2300 = 36800 watts on high speed and just have the old gear do nothing. we could even go to 30 m10's at low speed as 30 x 1280 = 38400 watts and 30 x 21 th = 630th all solar and if we have a runup we could do 30 x 2300 = 69kwatts 30 x 31.3 = 939 th When I go to the new spot I will do some photos I need be careful to not expose building location etc.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

on: January 12, 2019, 02:46:37 PM

three days to USA once it ships. I paid on the 9th it shipped on the 11th I think mine will show on Mon or Tues. You ordered on the 11th So Weds to Thurs but I think you are Canada could be a little slower. This will be my fourth one. 2 x 33th 2 x 31th 128-130 th in 4 machines

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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Official FutureBit Apollo LTC Image and Support thread

on: January 12, 2019, 03:55:35 AM

Quote from: jstefanop on January 11, 2019, 04:24:49 PM Quote from: A_Renaissance_Man on January 10, 2019, 10:17:18 PM Can something bad happen if I connect the wrong pins with the paper clip? If your worried about it just buy one of these: https://www.amazon.com/CRJ-24-Pin-Supply-Jumper-Bridge/dp/B01N8Q0TOE/ or buy this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DXN85LW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01__o00_s00?

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Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor

on: January 11, 2019, 06:23:50 PM

My home miners do not work but nicehash is working with the 3334 port. I tossed 100th at it.

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Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M10 33.0 Th/s, 2145W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner

on: January 11, 2019, 01:31:44 AM

It is moving to a different spot and will run at 31 th. my deal in new spot is 50 50 coin spilt and the hoster pays power. noise is not an issue. it you see that silver 5 foot board to the right in the video it ia a sound proof box that does wonders but I won't need to use it. as the hosting site is a large loud warehouse we will be installing a 300k-watt solar array on the roof which will create about 40k-watts 24/7/365 in a grid tie setup. we will have a mix of: s9 s9i s9j m10 l3+ and a few pieces of odd ball gear. once we get this done we will have a 120kwatt array and a 300 kwatt array. plan is to do 1 or 2 a year in the 100 to 400 kwatt size. divide by 6 or 7 to get your 24/7/365 number.

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