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181  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Maximum 7990s per mobo? on: June 24, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
sorry for being such a newbie but what is stock cooling and how do you open the case for a 7990?  I have two xfx 7990 but temps gets to as high as 95 degree C with a hash rate of around 500MH/s.

Can someone please help me with the best configuration to maximize hashing power.....I did pay big $$$ to get them..thanks

Stock cooling is the cooling already on the card. As for people referring to open case they generally mean taking the side(s) off of the computer case. For dual 7990 you also want a big fan aimed into the general pc case, 500Mhash sounds like they're throttling back due to getting too hot!
182  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VirtualCL / 2x Quad HD 7990 on: June 24, 2013, 06:00:06 PM

Get a silver kill coil and distilled water to handle any biocide requirements. What is an anti-conductive additive? Short of using something like fluorinert I don't think there is a way to prevent the water from ionizing given the constant contact with copper.

I was posting from memory but I think I actually meant non conductive additive (as in it doesn't suddenly turn the water conductive) - I once filled up a loop and the pushfit fitting were dodgy - ended up soaking a 6800 Ultra + motherboard but they both survived! Can't remember exactly what it was, was blue if that helps Tongue

Btw a chiller to handle that sort of loading would be ridiculously expensive, the good thing about a water loop is that if the temps are too high at first try you can just keep adding radiators or more powerful fans till the cooling is sufficient. You can also use it for underfloor air heating with rigs like that Wink
183  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: VirtualCL / 2x Quad HD 7990 on: June 24, 2013, 05:44:48 PM
Hi,

To my understanding ASIC's are application specific and thus requires me to have an ASIC designed for my specific goals. As my code'] implicates highly non-standard calculations (no double sha) a far cheaper goal would be to go with GPU's. My goal is to build a 32 GPU cluster. Each node with 4x 7990 = 8 GPU's so with 4 machine's I'm all set.

Now only the cooling is an issue which I think would be solved by using water cooling (chillers) instead of open-air systems and heavy A/C units.

You wouldn't need a water chiller, much simpler design for 4x7990 would be a triple liang dcc and dual/triple 480mm radiator setup. Then you don't have to worry about chiller control etc.

1 x Thread Laing DDC Triple Acrylic Pump Top : Plexi
3 x Laing DDC-1T Pro Pump 440 L/hr 10W
2-4 x Swiftech MCR420XP Extreme Performance 480mm Quad Radiator
8-16 x Zalman ZM-F3 120 x 120 x 25mm 1800RPM Case Fan
4 x EK FC 7990 SE Full Cover Waterblock for AMD Malta Series Reference Design HD 7990 Graphics Card : Copper Acetal

Plus some tubing and some high quality hose clamps. T line is much easier than using a reservoir and means there is less to spill if something goes wrong, I'd still recommend distilled water and some kind of anti-conductive additive though.

Although expensive it should keep the cards at a delta between 10-20 degrees max compared to ambient air at full load depending on how many radiators you decide to use.
184  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Block Erupter USB - Overclocking/ hacking ? on: June 24, 2013, 04:20:45 PM
I don't actually own one of these as they are way overpriced even at the new lower price.
But every screenshot I have seen show lots of hardware errors when mining.
Isn't that a sign that they are already overclocked way to high?

It could be a simple power supply issue as well, I plan to feed it power independently of the usb key.
"FOR SCIENCE"

You can only mine SHA256 coins btw, not other alts. As for this - the chips themselves run on <2v so it may be a regulator limit and supplying more amperage on the USB socket/5v line may not actually help at all.

Anyway, would anyone with one already care to read off the crystal speed? Also the voltage regulator part number would be interesting, voltage reading even better, and maybe a current reading of what is being pulled over the USB. Then we could work out exactly how much headroom we have. An unlimited current supply on the 5v might help if the regulator has a decent amount of headroom.
185  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [CLOSED] Block Erupter USB @ 2.10 BTC + parcel -> Shipping to anywhere! on: June 24, 2013, 04:03:16 PM
First buyers in the moment would break even their MHz cost in ~16 hours while the new buyers would break even their MHz cost in just ~8 hours!

This is really bad news for the first buyers!


I think your calculations are off by over 2 orders of magnitude! 333Mhash only generates 0.00288 per 8 hours, not 1!
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DVC]DevCoin - Official Thread - Moderated on: June 23, 2013, 07:03:23 PM
Some of you are already aware of this, but for the rest:

cryptsy.com has delisted DVC/BTC, and added DVC/LTC

Interesting, bet they thought they might run out of decimal places. Anyone received any share payouts yet? Want to invest some of mine.
187  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What motherboard, mobo, etc. should I use on: June 23, 2013, 05:26:15 PM
You need an 8 PCI-E slot mobo.  The MSI Big Bang Marshall comes to mind, it's expensive.

Otherwise MSI-Z77A-GD65 will run 7 cards without issue.  Using power risers.

Last I checked AMD APUs didn't fit in a land grid array with 1155 pins....
188  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: What motherboard, mobo, etc. should I use on: June 23, 2013, 05:00:29 PM
If I have eight AMD 7970 GPUs and one AMD A10-6800K “Richland” APU, what kind of motherboard would be the best?
Please give links to their product pages, etc! Thanks!  Smiley

Just a heads up no matter what board you get you'll definitely need some powered risers to stop the ATX plug and motherboard traces from burning out (literally).
189  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: How many bitcoins are needed in order to control the prices? on: June 23, 2013, 04:54:19 PM
Probably if they sold them on exchange. It would be much more likely that sales of this kind of magnitude be done either offline by selling the entire wallet and having proof of trusts set up to prevent the original owner from stealing them. Also they could just be transferred and the payment be made offline. I think Yifo alluded to both of these possibilities during a talk.

It wouldn't be in their interest to disrupt the price anyway since their units' ROI would go down and less people would want to buy them.
190  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: How to tell if powered risers are working on: June 23, 2013, 04:50:37 PM
The technical way to do it would be to use a digital multimeter to check if there is an electrical connection between the molex pin and the PCI-E pin responsible for power supply.

If you really wanted to be sure you'd break that connection somewhere along the power cable and put the multimeter in to fill the gap and measure the current flowing down it.
191  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: USB ASIC ERUPTER - Setup & Config. BCG Miner, cgminer, Hubs "Oh Pi"! on: June 23, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Now where can Americans get it?? lol

These look quite cool.  Cool

ModMyToys Solid Copper Passive Micro-Heatsink - 8mm x 8mm x 8mm (Pack of 4) - Black Electro-Plated-(MMT-HS-8X8-CU-BK)

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14951/vid-177/ModMyToys_Solid_Copper_Passive_Micro-Heatsink_-_8mm_x_8mm_x_8mm_Pack_of_4_-_Black_Electro-Plated-MMT-HS-8X8-CU-BK.html



Those are a bit dear! I'd be going for these cause copper doesn't transfer heat to the air very well either.

http://dx.com/p/aluminum-cooler-heat-sink-chipset-for-ram-memory-w-type-8-piece-set-35816

You could just stick a load to the top 'heatsink' side if they dont fit on the little chips on the other!


This is pretty cool tho:



RPi sandwiched between a USB hub and LCD shield. It's doing a lot better than my Pi which can get about 0.47khash on litecoin...
192  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Best GPU Mining Setup on: June 23, 2013, 02:13:58 PM


7750s. Seem to be the most efficient.  Is LTC GPU mining a good investment now?  How much more will I make compared with bitcoin?

50% right now. www.coinchoose.com
193  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Should I sell me 5ghz asic or mine with it? on: June 23, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
A sell it will by then. I still have a 50ghz in order that maybe arrive in sep or okt but also depends how big its gonna jump the coming few months.

First gonna wait for me tracking number for selling it.

No you don't its GigaHash, not GigaHertZ. Unless you think its cool to refer them as to GigaHasheZ.

194  Economy / Services / Re: [EHR:475.5Gh/s] Hashrack.com|Hashpacks 0.5Gh as low as 0.25 BTC as fast as 50Gh on: June 22, 2013, 09:52:38 PM
FPGAs exist for scrypt

Really? Can you prove that?
195  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Should I sell me 5ghz asic or mine with it? on: June 22, 2013, 09:50:48 PM
5ghz? holy shit you should mine with that, world record clockspeed right there.
196  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Now available: Lancelot (Heavy Duty 2 x FPGA Mining Board) on: June 22, 2013, 01:00:11 PM

Because, although not announced yet, we'll offer the warranty that if they do not recover the money in 6 months, we will replace them with ASICs that will.


Is this still valid?
197  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: i am offering help/advice on biulding rigs on: June 21, 2013, 10:34:23 PM
You can also disable any extra cores on the cpu which can reduce power draw significantly, it's the difference between my rig not booting and being able to run a 7970 at 1085/1500 mining litecoin.
198  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: mining over remote connection question on: June 21, 2013, 08:50:31 PM
I use teamviewer to access the miner I've left in uni halls, ver useful cause it gets straight through their firewalls which disallow server and various other remote connection methods. Teamviewer works just fine.
199  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hardware for My Next Project on: June 21, 2013, 08:47:50 PM

I will start from scratch and use Verilog coding. I will make custom circuits for everything to get the max performance. Timing analysis will be key in this project. Meeting all set-up and hold times with guard band will take some time, and will be a pain. But the good thing, there are multiple phase that can be used.

I will start on the project after I get the first release out of my WinMiner/Dominatrix project. With the Dominatrix Engine, I already have a software platform that I can tie in the FPGA too. Depending on the performance I get out of the FPGA, will depend if I release the code to the public. If I get awesome performance, then I will keep the code. If I get OK performance, then I will release the code to the public for free.




Interesting, but what do you hope to gain by keeping it closed source? And you might need a bigger heatsink than than!
200  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: alledgedly 1000GH/s miner - hoax? on: June 14, 2013, 09:49:16 PM
This is by far the most elaborate website I have seen for a hoax, really unbelievable how far some people will go.

How is it unbelievable?  They've made a ton of money off this scam.  One site determined they had 100+ orders @ $15k a pop.  They even have a kickstarter project that had $200k+ last time I saw it.

The product is unbelievable and plain ridiculous so I don't really feel sorry for the scam-ees cause they must be really stupid to drop 15k on one of these.
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