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181  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 09:09:32 PM
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6) When i refer to Terrorists, i am speaking of Islamic Extremists, that is Terrorists who identify themselves as muslims.

Now my question:

If Islam does not teach violence against the so-called "Infidel" (Non Muslim) why do the group of people mentioned in #6 of my list Identify it has a righteous crusade for their religion. Stop feigning ignorance and answer this question, or you will be sure to have been proven a liar or one who does not disclosing the full truth!

First what is Islamic extremists? One who follows Islam in extreme way, right? If Islamf doesn't teach people to kill non-muslims? Are they really extremisits? Or people who don't even know what Islam tells? The problem here is most terrorists are brainwashed when they were kids. They twist it very hard that kids can't be came back to normal easily. When they mature, they gives them duties like attacking certain places. It is like training dogs. Well, I ain't saying they are dogs, just comparing the action done here. Consider it as a metaphor or something. We can't catch the "person" who brainwash kids because he/she will tell them to suicide if they are caught and also mostly, they interact with each other using a third party/person. So that even if they are caught, they don't know who injected terrorism into their mind.

 Islamic extremists don't bother about most things except spending almost all of their time for praying. So I don't know how terrorists can Islamic extremists as they contradicts Islamic teachings/rules.

Thank you for answering the question. How can you prove that Islam do not teach these things? Do you have passages to quote from the Quran?
182  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 08:47:24 PM
If Islam does not teach violence against the so-called "Infidel" (Non Muslim) why do the group of people mentioned in #6 of my list Identify it has a righteous crusade for their religion. Stop feigning ignorance and answer this question, or you will be sure to have been proven a liar or one who does not disclosing the full truth!

It is because in Islam it was easier for priests to be powerful. Since The prophet Mohammad was a leader as well as a preacher it gave the impression that a leader can be a preacher as well. Guess what people in power preached since Mohammad died?

The message is alive, But people are people. Ever since he died until the present day. I won't even have to say which countries because it is pretty obvious. Where the leaders are the preachers. And they happily bend and twist Islam to fit their needs everyday.

Well you have to understand, I am American. You are not i assume. So we likely would have differing opinions of what "is pretty obvious". I am inclined to hear what you have to say, with an open mind and open heart. My interest is in truth, and peace for our planet is a goal for most people on earth, atleast
183  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 08:41:59 PM
Okay, I will indulge and dip my feet here. So you question was

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Then can you tell us all why Terrorist are always identifying with the Islamic Faith, and Jihad?

And you do not think his answer was sufficient and explanatory enough. Okay,

For me I would say that what you are thinking of is the association by the media. Most of it is not blatant lies but it is not correct. You see the Arab world is a very disturbed place. All governments there are  puppets to who will feed them more and tyrants to who asks them to be fed off their own land and resources. Every single entity that would go against any of them is labelled a "terrorist group" by the media. Jihad means to strive and to struggle and it perfectly fits their causes. You hear the word and you see blood and explosions and the media associating it with "terrorism" and voila, "Terrorist are always identifying with the Islamic Faith". But you see back then in the period so called the cold war the association was against the Russians. they had others before that and they will have others after Muslims and Arabs. This is summed nicely in the theory of war-economy and how it is expected to get worse and worse very soon in the upcoming year.

Also -even though I don't condone and approve, But understand- if you consider the events of terrorism and not how these involved people came to be, I think you are among terrorists and you don't even know it, Especially if you are a US citizen. Take for example the people who crashed the airplaces in 9/11. Horrible right? Thousands died and so much was lost. Do you understand that those people did not need to be brainwashed? Thousands of deaths is something that happened to them on daily basis by the Americans and foreigners that came bringing "freedom" and only brought blood to the old and the young, to the girls and women. Is their struggle less understandable of an American because he was "disturbed" with a falling building when he was drinking his coffee in Starbucks? Because he felt sad about a couple of thousands that he most likely met here and there and never even said hi? These people lost mothers and fathers and friends. They saw buildings fall over them along with their families (Acceptable causality?). they saw mothers raped and neighbours accused and killed, in the name of "freedom". Yes blood came locally for many many years but that is not an excuse to come and spill more blood in the name of false "freedom".

War is ugly and none in the game that is not to be blamed, Some just have better news channels and control over the media. The ones you call terrorists are the ones every overseas-wars-supporter helped make.

Two wrongs do not result in a right. The people who died in that terrorist attacks of 9/11 were normal people. Working a job. These people had nothing to do with the killing that occurred in your country.
184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if YOU could put 1 feature, change, whatever, into the Bitcoin protocol? on: April 09, 2015, 08:36:10 PM
because someone will invite new internet protocol or something...

We have a new internet protocol. It's called IPv6. It was officially released in 2012, and as of April 2015, it's used by roughly 5% of connected devices, according to Google.

But, if you connect via IPv6, do you notice? Well, no. These technologies operate on “layers”, and the IP layer is below the Bitcoin layer. Even if we were on IPv8, it wouldn't affect Bitcoin's protocol a bit.

we also have SPDY 3.1 and HTTP 2.0 but who's counting.
185  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
By ignoring the question i posed 3 pages ago, you have proven that i cannot trust you Mohamet Zakir. Why should i trust you if you cannot answer the simple question i give you?

Shame on you Mohamet Zakir! How can you miss his question! it is just mere 50 pages! you should go back and forth and review all posts, I cannot trust you too. this is a valid metric to estalish how untrustworthy you are....  Roll Eyes
He responded to the question, but it was no answer, as you can see:

My name is Muhammed Zakir not Mohamet Zakir. Smiley

What type of answer are you looking for? I may not be able to answer in a way you think. However, if you can clarify a bit, it will be helpful. As I have mentioned earlier, either I will have to make my English better or you will have to know Malayalam for a better answer. Sorry if it isn't answer your question but I can't understand "why" it isn't an answer to your question.

Ok, i will try to say it in a way that you can understand. I guess that you are losing in translation the point of the message. so i will clarify before asking the question.

1) I am not alleging that all Terrorists are Muslims
2) I am not alleging that all Muslims are Terrorists
3) My friend Ahmed is Muslim, and we have discussed briefly the differences in our Religions.
4) I subscribe to many Scholarly mailing lists. I have learned a small detail of Islam from these lists in various discussions that arise.
5) It is my understanding that a stated goal of Islam is for all people to practice Islam as the dominant religion on the planet.
6) When i refer to Terrorists, i am speaking of Islamic Extremists, that is Terrorists who identify themselves as muslims.

Now my question:

If Islam does not teach violence against the so-called "Infidel" (Non Muslim) why do the group of people mentioned in #6 of my list Identify it has a righteous crusade for their religion. Stop feigning ignorance and answer this question, or you will be sure to have been proven a liar or one who does not disclosing the full truth!
186  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 08:13:49 PM
By ignoring the question i posed 3 pages ago, you have proven that i cannot trust you Mohamet Zakir. Why should i trust you if you cannot answer the simple question i give you?

Shame on you Mohamet Zakir! How can you miss his question! it is just mere 50 pages! you should go back and forth and review all posts, I cannot trust you too. this is a valid metric to estalish how untrustworthy you are....  Roll Eyes
He responded to the question, but it was no answer, as you can see:

Then can you tell us all why Terrorist are always identifying with the Islamic Faith, and Jihad? I find it peculiar why no muslim can answer us why they do this. I think you are lying. I have read excerpts from the Quran, and the stated goal is for Islam to be the faith of all people on the planet. Sounds sinister to me.

#1: Can you explain "Islamic faith"? There isn't any such Islamic faith you are claiming. They are using wrong faith.
#2: Jihad means to strive; to struggle.
#3: Islam is for all human beings from the living of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). However, there is no rule to force any person to become Muslim and forcing is against Islamic teachings. They should become Muslim at their own will.
(Optional)#4: You have some misunderstanding about some things.

We should analyze the word 'terrorism'. Everyone who provide terror (a real terror) to a group of person with a weapon, knife etcetera ... By the definition is a terrorist, now the history can speak itself because not all the Muslim are terrorist and not all the terrorist are muslim. I think it's wrong to link the word Islam to the word terrorism, can you explain to us why aren't all the muslim terrorists?

Thanks for your input. Was the last questions to me? I didn't get you correctly. I should prove all muslims aren't terrorist? Huh
187  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 06:47:16 PM
By ignoring the question i posed 3 pages ago, you have proven that i cannot trust you Mohamet Zakir. Why should i trust you if you cannot answer the simple question i give you?
188  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 06:51:31 AM
Islam doesn't hate people, its the person who hates other people who has a different religion.

Do are you saying it is not a problem related with the religion but most probable a problem related with the person itself? I don't think it will be possible to understand, because a lot of people here are thinking "Islam=terrorism".

Yes, you are right. They think Islam tells to be a terrorist but Islam doesn't tell it. I don't have any sort of Oracle skill, so I can't say better. Plain English sometimes are a little hard to swallow and/or to digest.

I have told many times Islam doesn't say to be a terrorist but still they give news saying muslims killed x people. Undecided

Then can you tell us all why Terrorist are always identifying with the Islamic Faith, and Jihad? I find it peculiar why no muslim can answer us why they do this. I think you are lying. I have read excerpts from the Quran, and the stated goal is for Islam to be the faith of all people on the planet. Sounds sinister to me.

We should analyze the word 'terrorism'. Everyone who provide terror (a real terror) to a group of person with a weapon, knife etcetera ... By the definition is a terrorist, now the history can speak itself because not all the Muslim are terrorist and not all the terrorist are muslim. I think it's wrong to link the word Islam to the word terrorism, can you explain to us why aren't all the muslim terrorists?

There you go dancing around the question
189  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 06:17:44 AM
[…]

Quote from: Dr. Gary E. Aylesworth, Eastern Illinois University, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 2005 link=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6
Baudrillard presents hyperreality as the terminal stage of simulation, where a sign or image has no relation to any reality whatsoever, but is “its own pure simulacrum” (Baudrillard 1994, 6). The real, he says, has become an operational effect of symbolic processes, just as images are technologically generated and coded before we actually perceive them. This means technological mediation has usurped the productive role of the Kantian subject, the locus of an original synthesis of concepts and intuitions, as well as the Marxian worker, the producer of capital though labor, and the Freudian unconscious, the mechanism of repression and desire. “From now on,” says Baudrillard, “signs are exchanged against each other rather than against the real” (Baudrillard 1993, 7), so production now means signs producing other signs. The system of symbolic exchange is therefore no longer real but “hyperreal.” Where the real is “that of which it is possible to provide an equivalent reproduction,” the hyperreal, says Baudrillard, is “that which is always already reproduced” (Baudrillard 1993, 73). The hyperreal is a system of simulation simulating itself.
(Red colorization mine.)

Quote from: Leo Tolstoy, Tolstoy (1988) by A. N. Wilson, p. 146. link=http://izquotes.com/quote/273222
The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens… Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.

Tribe is hyperreal and begets possession. Possession is [hyper]real and begets money. Money is hyperreal and begets state. State is [hyper]real and begets hyperreality.

It is a (post-)modern “matter” (r3wt) that besieges even the common man.

in my opinion, the premise is false.

How so?

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Tribe is hyperreal and begets possession. Possession is [hyper]real and begets money. Money is hyperreal and begets state. State is [hyper]real and begets hyperreality.

each step in the chain doesn't seem to be related. I'm also not sold on the existence of this hyperreality.
190  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 06:09:29 AM
[…]

Do you acknowledge that you can confuse the hyperreal (here, any network of symbols that reference each other but nothing else) for the real (here, the physically extant)?

belief is a choice, so you certainly can. beyond this observation, i'm hardly qualified to pontificate on this matter.
(Red colorization mine.)


Quote from: Dr. Gary E. Aylesworth, Eastern Illinois University, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 2005 link=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6
Baudrillard presents hyperreality as the terminal stage of simulation, where a sign or image has no relation to any reality whatsoever, but is “its own pure simulacrum” (Baudrillard 1994, 6). The real, he says, has become an operational effect of symbolic processes, just as images are technologically generated and coded before we actually perceive them. This means technological mediation has usurped the productive role of the Kantian subject, the locus of an original synthesis of concepts and intuitions, as well as the Marxian worker, the producer of capital though labor, and the Freudian unconscious, the mechanism of repression and desire. “From now on,” says Baudrillard, “signs are exchanged against each other rather than against the real” (Baudrillard 1993, 7), so production now means signs producing other signs. The system of symbolic exchange is therefore no longer real but “hyperreal.” Where the real is “that of which it is possible to provide an equivalent reproduction,” the hyperreal, says Baudrillard, is “that which is always already reproduced” (Baudrillard 1993, 73). The hyperreal is a system of simulation simulating itself.
(Red colorization mine.)

Quote from: Leo Tolstoy, Tolstoy (1988) by A. N. Wilson, p. 146. link=http://izquotes.com/quote/273222
The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens… Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.

Tribe is hyperreal and begets possession. Possession is [hyper]real and begets money. Money is hyperreal and begets state. State is [hyper]real and begets hyperreality.

It is a (post-)modern “matter” (r3wt) that besieges even the common man.

in my opinion, the premise is false.
191  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
Islam doesn't hate people, its the person who hates other people who has a different religion.

Do are you saying it is not a problem related with the religion but most probable a problem related with the person itself? I don't think it will be possible to understand, because a lot of people here are thinking "Islam=terrorism".

Yes, you are right. They think Islam tells to be a terrorist but Islam doesn't tell it. I don't have any sort of Oracle skill, so I can't say better. Plain English sometimes are a little hard to swallow and/or to digest.

I have told many times Islam doesn't say to be a terrorist but still they give news saying muslims killed x people. Undecided

Then can you tell us all why Terrorist are always identifying with the Islamic Faith, and Jihad? I find it peculiar why no muslim can answer us why they do this. I think you are lying. I have read excerpts from the Quran, and the stated goal is for Islam to be the faith of all people on the planet. Sounds sinister to me.
192  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 05:46:36 AM
[…]

I'm confused as to what you are trying to say. also, seems pretty weird how you keep placing my username in parenthesis.

Consider the following syllogism: “Acts are physical. ‘Right’ is not physical. Therefore, ‘right’ cannot be an act.”

Perhaps you should have studied how to effectively communicate  Smiley

Do you acknowledge that you can believe the hyperreal (i.e., a network of symbols that reference each other but nothing else) to be real (here, reference something else)?

belief is a choice, so you certainly can. beyond this observation, i'm hardly qualified to pontificate on this matter.
193  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 05:36:31 AM
[…]

Care to clarify the meaning of this sideshow we have entered? i'm having trouble following you.

“[R]ight” (r3wt) cannot be “do[ne]” (r3wt) because it does not reference the real (whereof, one’s acts are constituted).

I'm confused as to what you are trying to say. also, seems pretty weird how you keep placing my username in parenthesis.

Consider the following syllogism: “Acts are physical. ‘Right’ is not physical. Therefore, ‘right’ cannot be an act.”

Perhaps you should have studied how to effectively communicate  Smiley
194  Other / Off-topic / Re: AM I A TROLL? on: April 09, 2015, 05:34:10 AM
Alt of defaced
195  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 05:28:31 AM
[…]

Am i wrong? Probably. Do i care? Not a bit. I will continue to strive to do right in my life, and praise God whether he exists or not. I believe that he does, but if you don't, thats your right and i respect it.
(Red colorization mine.)

How does one perceive “right” (r3wt) in such a way as to prove (at least, to oneself) that it exists in the real?
[…]
(Red colorization mine.)

How does this prove “right” (r3wt) to not be a network of symbols referencing each other but nothing else?

Objectively you can't prove that it [is not], but you can choose to believe that it [is not].
[…]

ok

Care to clarify the meaning of this sideshow we have entered? i'm having trouble following you.

“[R]ight” (r3wt) cannot be “do[ne]” (r3wt) because it does not reference the real (wherein, one acts).

I'm confused as to what you are trying to say. also, seems pretty weird how you keep placing my username in parenthesis.
196  Economy / Services / Re: Are you a developer? Enter now on: April 09, 2015, 05:24:38 AM
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Portfolio     :

Mostly NDA and IPAA protected stuff, but:

http://dev.openex.info/auth/login  u: test@test.com p: password


I'm not currently available, but what the hey. never know if you might find an interesting project to work on here.



https://www.odesk.com/users/~01caea2acd12dff2be



I wouldn't say that i'm the best developer in the world. I've had some very public follies. I do learn from my mistakes and i do read and unit test my code. I'm always looking for an oppurtunity to learn from experienced programmers and add more skills to my toolbelt.
197  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 04:34:07 AM
[…]

How does this prove “right” (r3wt) to not be a network of symbols referencing each other but nothing else?

Objectively you can't prove that it [is not], but you can choose to believe that it [is not].

Quote from: Plato. “Euthyphro.” Trans. Benjamin Jowett. Athens: −2160. Web. 09 Apr. 235. link=http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html
Soc. Alas! my companion, and will you leave me in despair? I was hoping that you would instruct me in the nature of piety and impiety; and then I might have cleared myself of Meletus and his indictment. I would have told him that I had been enlightened by Euthyphro, and had given up rash innovations and speculations, in which I indulged only through ignorance, and that now I am about to lead a better life.


THE END

ok

As an aside, the dates above are 𝑏 E.A. (lit., "earthly Anthropocene").

Care to clarify the meaning of this sideshow we have entered? i'm having trouble following you.
198  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 04:22:32 AM
[…]

Am i wrong? Probably. Do i care? Not a bit. I will continue to strive to do right in my life, and praise God whether he exists or not. I believe that he does, but if you don't, thats your right and i respect it.
(Red colorization mine.)

How does one perceive “right” (r3wt) in such a way as to prove (at least, to oneself) that it exists in the real?

That a slippery slope. There are the obvious things. Murder, Bullying, Abuse, Stealing,Scamming, etc. Then there are the little things, like being rude to other people or hurting other people intentionally(emotional), disrespecting other people, telling lies about people. Some people have a type of moral compass, whether they admit it or not. Like when you did something bad and it hurts you so bad to even think about it that it makes you want to cry. It appears that some other people never experience this.
(Red colorization mine.)

How does this prove “right” (r3wt) to not be a network of symbols referencing each other but nothing else?

Objectively you can't prove that it does, but you can choose to believe that it does.

Quote from: Plato. “Euthyphro.” Trans. Benjamin Jowett. Athens: −2160. Web. 09 Apr. 235. link=http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html
Soc. Alas! my companion, and will you leave me in despair? I was hoping that you would instruct me in the nature of piety and impiety; and then I might have cleared myself of Meletus and his indictment. I would have told him that I had been enlightened by Euthyphro, and had given up rash innovations and speculations, in which I indulged only through ignorance, and that now I am about to lead a better life.


THE END

ok
199  Other / Off-topic / Re: There was no Big Bang, Truth shall set you free!!!! on: April 09, 2015, 03:51:11 AM
[…]

Am i wrong? Probably. Do i care? Not a bit. I will continue to strive to do right in my life, and praise God whether he exists or not. I believe that he does, but if you don't, thats your right and i respect it.
(Red colorization mine.)

How does one perceive “right” (r3wt) in such a way as to prove (at least, to oneself) that it exists in the real?

That a slippery slope. There are the obvious things. Murder, Bullying, Abuse, Stealing,Scamming, etc. Then there are the little things, like being rude to other people or hurting other people intentionally(emotional), disrespecting other people, telling lies about people. Some people have a type of moral compass, whether they admit it or not. Like when you did something bad and it hurts you so bad to even think about it that it makes you want to cry. It appears that some other people never experience this.
(Red colorization mine.)

How does this prove “right” (r3wt) to not be a network of symbols referencing each other but nothing else?
Objectively you can't prove that it does, but you can choose to believe that it does.
200  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: April 09, 2015, 03:31:40 AM
I think islamic extremist hate people because they believe in Jihad(Religious crusade). either that or they are mad because we know they fuck goats
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