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181  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: March 01, 2014, 04:23:03 AM
It is a big effort to explain something you know the truth but could not say a word. Time will prove when everything comes out from the surface.

I only use this account unless my account is hacked. So if you doubt my personality, then stay away from my post. I am not a native English speaker. Maybe sometime I used some inappropriate words I did not realize. If so, I apologize for that.

We are here just providing an option for you. So you know at least there is some possibility that 28nm 1T miner is in mass production. You could doubt it before we earned enough trust. Your money is still in your hand, not in ours. So we do no harm to you. If you think this is a scam, then stay away. The opportunity is for someone else. Our sample units are not for free. We also have some rules for selection. Some real business men will take the risk and grab the opportunity before things come out. I admire their courage and business sense. For small investor, just wait for some reviews from trustful members.

Thanks.
182  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 28, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
I've been speaking with Winston from JT and I did give my concerns about the questions not being answered as well as the fact others have these miners with a different name.

Before someone bank wires you money it is hard to justify exactly what is going on.  Not that it is a scam but more so we have no clue if we are buying a clone of a clone.


There are a few clues:
1. We are the first to put 60T miners in public. No one else did this before us.
   From the view of investment, before you do a mass production, you should test 50-100 miners to optimize your PCB design.
2. We always claim we are the original. It seems no one else has such a claim.
   They copycatted our old design with some defect. The final design is not cloned by others.
3. We do not accept oversea pre-order now. We still wait for the reviews from trustful members.
183  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 28, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
All time total payout: 268.37344283 BTC + Unpaid Balance 16.33623556 BTC
http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1swrtyBsp9odruX65upeyubAVSAyggh78
184  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 27, 2014, 11:31:58 PM
1. @ujka's does not ask question. Just post some misleading information here. Also I made it clear on Post #68: "We do not have any business with bitmine".  So our chips are not from them.
2. Where is the chip from? It is a business secret. We do not want our competitor know this now, it will be disclosed soon.
3. We have made our efforts to contact some trustful members. Our sample units will be sent out soon. We will wait for the reviews to earn enough trust for official oversea sales.
4. The advantage of 1t 28nm JTminers is stable and in mass production.
5. Different people have different views of the future of bitcoin. The price of bitcoin is very volatile. Do your own judgement and do a comparison shop. Find one you think has more potential to beat others in ROI.


@ujka  Could you please take your time to read the story? I am really curious about your real purpose here since you have followed our topic for a few days. We have already declared that we have no business with bitmine.

SeekSilence,  
I think many of the forum members are curious about your real purpose here too.  Questions have been asked and you have provided some information; but have not been totally forthcoming.... slowly the story comes out. Why are you evasive concerning UJKA’s questions? Provide a legitimate answer concerning the chips.  Be honest and upfront, none of this story time Bullsh**.  You have to understand that Scams are widespread in Bitcoin right now. So, the more open and transparent you are the quicker the skepticism will disperse. This is business; proof is required. Otherwise you could be one of the most honest people in the world and no one will believe you. And because you have not established trust with potential customers, you will not be successful in business. What’s the hang up with providing a miner to someone for validation and verification of what you claim? The longer you wait, the less palatable your miners will be. Price is too high at this juncture and as time passes it will be increasingly MORE DIFFICULT to get ROI for your miner.  So reasonably, consider this; WHY would one invest in your miner (even if it were the best ever made) if they could not make ROI, much less make a profit?  You boys need to get your act together!

185  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 27, 2014, 08:11:53 PM
@ujka  Could you please take your time to read the story? I am really curious about your real purpose here since you have followed our topic for a few days. We have already declared that we have no business with bitmine.
186  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 27, 2014, 07:16:24 PM


When ready would be intrested what chips are in these miners.

Let's talk a story, as in Hollywood movies and this story is all fiction and but based on true fact. LOL.

So it is just a story and people should not link their names with it.

At Wonderland, there is a guy named Good Digger who wish to have a powerful tool, so he can have a go on Gold Mountain. But he has no ability to make the core for this magic tool to work. So he looks around, far and away, in a place there is someone who actually have the ability to help him out.

So with hard cash on the hand, he found this guy named Good Maker to work out a deal. So he paid up front for some development costs and also for some portions of making the tool. As return, Good Digger will get his portion of finish product and of course Good Maker has the right on the tool and also keep a bigger portion of the magic stuff.

Of course, for Good Digger, he got some wonderful stuff and he can use them to make his powerful system. As a good marketing talker, he can also bloating around the miners community to show off his "invention".

But for Good Maker as a great skilled but low-profiled guy, he wants to make sure he really did a great job.

So he found his good friend the Good Worker to help up, by designing a cool system as proof to test his core is indeed a great one.

Then the design is come out very quick and successful. They put together 60 systems and let them to run a longer test.

At this point, Good Worker as a new comer to the community decide to let their design to go public, and at same time helping Good Maker to sell their great stuff.

So end of story.

1. Do you think Good Maker's own mining core is "owned" by Good Digger? The agreement pointed out both guys can named their stuff and can digging themselves or resell their systems.

2. Do you think Good Worker have Good Digger's core? Even both of them are coming from same design? So if Good Digger named their core with brand-name "My Magic", then of course, stuff from other sources are NOT "My Magic".
187  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 27, 2014, 07:15:12 PM
Are these coming from same place as asiabtc Jacks miners.

No, he is not our agent. We haven't authorized any distributor yet. We designed the original 1t 28nm JTminer.
188  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 27, 2014, 03:44:29 PM
All time total payout: 268.37344283 BTC +  6.35602009 BTC (unpaid balance)   
189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New price $6K for Jingtian 28nm 1T miner on: February 26, 2014, 08:39:23 PM
I am in progress of reviewing a unit form jtminer.
There are some interesting details that have come to light.
I do not recommend buying a unit until a trusted forum member such as myself verifies their legitimacy.



I haven't heard we have sent out the sample units yet. Maybe I need to get the information updated.

Since you and Skyfromwell  seem to be in business together, it doesn’t make sense that you would not know samples have been sent out...

What’s the chances of a forum member conducting an onsite visit to your production facility in China? Validation and verification... might build trust!
And your prices are too high; There is better bang for the buck with proven miners that are already in production and being shipped.
I imagine your miners are still in the testing and development stage; you have not ramped up production because you are taking pre-orders to
acquire working capital, and you have no standing inventory for immediate shipment.
How will you keep up with orders if you have nothing in inventory to ship?

Have one or two of these forum members conduct an onsite visit to your production facility in China; and you foot the bill.
 


We are in different place, so I need some time to get the feedback. Skyfromwell knows the first-hand information. His words are more powerful than mine.

From my feedback, we have already contacted several trustful members. We will send out our sample units in 1-2 weeks.  I apologize if my words confused you.

We are in mass production for 1200T miners.





Thank you for the clarification SeekSilence.
What are your thoughts on inviting one or two of these forum members to conduct an onsite visit to your production facility in China?


That's a good suggestion. If someone has a plan to go to China or has an agent in China and also a trustful member here, then feel free to contact us for an arrangement for visiting.

190  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New price $6K for Jingtian 28nm 1T miner on: February 26, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I am in progress of reviewing a unit form jtminer.
There are some interesting details that have come to light.
I do not recommend buying a unit until a trusted forum member such as myself verifies their legitimacy.



I haven't heard we have sent out the sample units yet. Maybe I need to get the information updated.

Since you and Skyfromwell  seem to be in business together, it doesn’t make sense that you would not know samples have been sent out...

What’s the chances of a forum member conducting an onsite visit to your production facility in China? Validation and verification... might build trust!
And your prices are too high; There is better bang for the buck with proven miners that are already in production and being shipped.
I imagine your miners are still in the testing and development stage; you have not ramped up production because you are taking pre-orders to
acquire working capital, and you have no standing inventory for immediate shipment.
How will you keep up with orders if you have nothing in inventory to ship?

Have one or two of these forum members conduct an onsite visit to your production facility in China; and you foot the bill.
 


We are in different place, so I need some time to get the feedback. Skyfromwell knows the first-hand information. His words are more powerful than mine.

From my feedback, we have already contacted several trustful members. We will send out our sample units in 1-2 weeks.  I apologize if my words confused you.

We are in mass production for 1200T miners.



191  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New price $6K for Jingtian 28nm 1T miner on: February 26, 2014, 03:17:32 AM
I am in progress of reviewing a unit form jtminer.
There are some interesting details that have come to light.
I do not recommend buying a unit until a trusted forum member such as myself verifies their legitimacy.



I haven't heard we have sent out the sample units yet. Maybe I need to get the information updated.
192  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 25, 2014, 08:53:24 PM
All time total payout: 240.99846704 BTC  +  17.51235106 BTC (unpaid balance)   

The original instead of copycatted miners still run smoothly. We are proud of the performance of our miners. Quality is the first thing we will consider before delivery.
193  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The completely evaluation of Dragon 1 T bitcoin miner from china on: February 25, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
What happened? Hashrate goes down to ZERO? This is how a copycatted miner's performance should be.

194  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm 1T ASIC new system is good for market? on: February 25, 2014, 04:35:29 PM
You should check the related post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482921.0
195  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New price $6K for Jingtian 28nm 1T miner on: February 24, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
I will sell same product for $300 discount, if anybody is interested.

I am not sure what can be disclosed. So I will wait for skyfromwell to update the information. BTW, our miners are NOT sold on ebay now.  You CANNOT have the same miner as ours since it is never sold before. Someone just copycatted our old design with defects and built a few sample miners. So be cautious.
196  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 24, 2014, 05:31:32 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=482921.msg5340791#msg5340791

Note: It is just a story!
197  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 24, 2014, 04:02:00 PM
Just say you're building miners based on bitmine A1 chip.
A1 sign is visible on chips on the pcb photo you posted.

Then we will ask bitmine.ch if they are in bussiness with you. Things solved.

Did skyfromwell make it clear in his post:
----------------------
1. Anyone needs to pay 15 BTCs to bad mouth Bitmine? Seriously.

2. The CoinCraft chip that Bitmine claimed are NOT their products. They buought form a Chinese chip company.
----------------------

You give the wrong assumption since the answer for your question is always No. Trick does not work. We do not have any business with bitmine.ch. Let me ask you some simple questions: If bitmine.ch had all the chips and could build their own miner, will they sell the chips in the market? Which way is more profitable for them?
198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 28nm ** 1T ** 900W【JingTian miner】 in production !!! on: February 24, 2014, 02:18:58 PM

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A new id seems to bash the bitcoin business? Anyone who knows Chinese will know it is not in authentic Chinese language. It  is translated from some translator software or online. You are trying to confuse others without knowing the truth with some purpose? How could you believe in that without any effort to prove the new guys is trustful? We have the most advanced technology, we focus on satisfying our first 1200T products and expand our capacity to satisfy our future orders. We are busy on doing real things.
199  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 井天矿机,全球最快的T级矿机 on: February 24, 2014, 04:53:41 AM
比特币矿机的发展史,就是中国制造的一个见证,证明了中国人在这个领域的崛起。今天,比特币矿机开启了新的一页,28nm芯片的矿机时代已经来临。我们,井天矿机,来了,单台1T,28nm芯片,现货发售!
更高领域的挑战,有井天矿机,井天矿机将为比特币矿机的矿场主提供值得信赖的专业服务。

更先进:28nm工艺ASIC芯片。
省空间:40个芯片并列,单台1T矿机(超频可达到1.2T)。
低功耗:芯片功耗650W,矿机墙上实测功率923W,后期可优化为750W-830W。
超稳定:低散热,低噪音,自动温度观察,自动启动,15天*24小时连续室温25度、实地运行测试考验,不宕机。
更快送达:官网实时下单预定,客户可直接观看订单排期。
更好服务:拥有晚交货赔偿保障,专业技术团队、实体公司负责后续售后支持服务。
优惠价格:同时接收海外、国内预定,量大从优。

新设备,新能量,先人一步。
井天矿机,从现在开始,为专业矿场提供高标准的解决方案。
普通矿工,我们并没有忘记你们,现在开始期待我们的为您精心准备的矿机!请关注井天矿机。

网址 http://www.jtminer.com/cn
井天矿机销售QQ群:134999206
200  Local / 挖矿 / 井天矿机,全球最快的T级矿机 on: February 24, 2014, 04:44:28 AM
比特币矿机的发展史,就是中国制造的一个见证,证明了中国人在这个领域的崛起。今天,比特币矿机开启了新的一页,28nm芯片的矿机时代已经来临。我们,井天矿机,来了,单台1T,28nm芯片,现货发售!
更高领域的挑战,有井天矿机,井天矿机将为比特币矿机的矿场主提供值得信赖的专业服务。

更先进:28nm工艺ASIC芯片。
省空间:40个芯片并列,单台1T矿机(超频可达到1.2T)。
低功耗:芯片功耗650W,矿机墙上实测功率923W,后期可优化为750W-830W。
超稳定:低散热,低噪音,自动温度观察,自动启动,15天*24小时连续室温25度、实地运行测试考验,不宕机。
更快送达:官网实时下单预定,客户可直接观看订单排期。
更好服务:拥有晚交货赔偿保障,专业技术团队、实体公司负责后续售后支持服务。
优惠价格:同时接收海外、国内预定,量大从优。

新设备,新能量,先人一步。
井天矿机,从现在开始,为专业矿场提供高标准的解决方案。
普通矿工,我们并没有忘记你们,现在开始期待我们的为您精心准备的矿机!请关注井天矿机。

网址http://www.jtminer.com/cn
井天矿机销售QQ群:134999206
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