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181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 25, 2022, 05:28:36 PM
It's a bit difficult to predict from now on because the unexpected result came suddenly like Man city yesterday no one expected them to only draw against Southampton
When I check Man city upcoming match they only have 3 big matches  VS Tottenham, Man united and Liverpool others are weak teams but that's not a guarantee Man city will win we already saw an example in yesterday's match, that's why i see the competition is very open.

Yes, it is still difficult to predict the potential champion this season. Even though the opportunity are better for City now, the results on the fields are not a math results. I do think there is an opportunity for Liverpool, but that doesn't mean it's will be, same for City. Because the points gap can be far if every subsequent game Liverpool experience a decline in performance. I'm sure Guardiola will start to give a warning for his team to not to give a single points to opponents in the next matches. Because one defeat can be a bad momentum for them.

Indeed, if it is calculated mathematically today, it still cannot be stated that City will be the winner.  From 38 matches, for today there is still a comparison between winning the title and the health of the players and this is still average in activity especially still in the 24th match. I hope City's condition can still maintain their strategy, so that the instability of the previous team, namely Man United  .
182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is really controlling the Bitcoin market. on: January 25, 2022, 04:23:12 PM
How can people control bitcoin while bitcoin was created by satoshi nakamoto for free even the one who created bitcoin satoshi doesn't regulate bitcoin especially those who only hold bitcoin of course can't control bitcoin.
at least you know what you are talking here?

Bitcoin can be controlled by those who has too much bitcoin in their position , like for example whales? they are capable of doing such because their holding can move the price a little and with many whales combined their assets? then surely this will control bitcoin for a certain time.

and this is what they do when they wanna dump or pump the prices of market .

When the market is regulated by the government then you can see how fiat travel provides inflation that continues to rise from year to year.  This is one of the reasons the crypto-based digital currency was created to create its own market independent of government intervention.  However, with a free market, those who have the greatest assets are those who have the greatest assets, such as the capitalist system.  Whoever has the capital then he is the king.  Price manipulation is only one of the impacts, not the main target.
183  Economy / Economics / Re: The Russian economy is on the verge of collapse. What to expect? on: January 25, 2022, 03:34:15 PM
I'm becoming more and more convinced by the term 'a world of peace and quiet is a bad thing'. I'm still curious about what Russia's goal is in making the drama that's happening right now because we know this gas and oil producing country has a fairly high poverty rate when compared to other European countries.

war won't happen because russia and ukraine must have a million considerations. like the issue this time was used by manipulators to influence the crypto market and try to suppress the market. Who knows!!!

Everything is very simple. You probably know when a ruler has garbage in his head and his hands grow out of his ass, and everything in the country is stolen by the ruler's friends, and a hungry riot of a degraded population is on the horizon, WAR is needed !!! Anything can be attributed to the war - problems in the economy, divert attention from the party of kleptomaniacs, this will be the rationale for why it is impossible to hold rallies and demonstrations for human conditions of life - "WAR!!!" and "Enemies all around !!!", and as a result, "close your mouths, eat what they give you, and be silent !!!".


I did not expect that the actions taken by Russia were further from expectations, before I might have been naive in believing them because of the doctrine in childhood that as long as my country was colonized, only they provided weapons so they could defeat the invaders.  But at this time the conditions are different or the doctrine to me is wrong that Russia seems to be carrying out hasty policies only for its momentary interests and passions.  The impact is not on the government but on the people as a whole.  BTC and the crypto market have also become very caught up in one very bad policy of intervention.
184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 24, 2022, 11:23:48 PM

I understand that, Man United need an adjustment process with Rangnick. I think whoever the coach is they need adaptation. That adaptation has been a long way off and now Man United have played like Rangnick's will. The movement of seizing the ball is very visible, they simultaneously presing on the opposing player. At least a few wins have given Man United the chance to keep going to ucl next season. "I think at the moment Man United is still unstable.

Their condition is indeed improving but the problem of instability seems to have mushroomed in them.  Ragnick has slowly eroded this but it is undeniable that their playing pattern often looks like it is out of Ragnick's own control.  Man United's problem does not lie with the previous coach, but comes from their own players.  However, the character is ingrained and can't be changed that easily.
185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 24, 2022, 11:08:05 PM
True, the points gap between Real Madrid and Sevilla is still very affordable with a few games.  However, Sevilla's journey was very concerning with the play only ending in a draw.  even though the team they played against was only in 12th position in the standings.  If their strategy is not strengthened, it is possible that the chances of winning in this league are getting further and further away.  They are lucky that Real Madrid did the same so the gap is not that big.  But this could have an impact if Real Madrid immediately fix the pattern.
186  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 24, 2022, 03:07:33 PM

Tetap jangan mengesampingkan segala perhitungan resikonya juga om. Karena jika dibandingkan dengan harga di bulan yang sama setahun yang lalu, harga BTC saat ini menurut saya masih terbilang cukup tinggi. Kalau yang sudah terbiasa menganalisa secara teknikal mungkin bisa memperkirakan harga terendah dari nilai tukar yang mungkin disentuh BTC untuk saat ini.


Jika membandingkan dengan harga awal tahun memang masih sangat tinggi, tapi akankah menurut agan harga akan menyentuh level yang lebih rendah lagi. Sebenarnya ini hanya market yang tertimpa isu penolakan BTC di suatu negara dan walaupun ini bersifat temporary tetap saja kalau posisi portofolio sudah loss sangat dalam ya lebih baik cut loss atau average down saja.
187  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is El Salvador in debt because of the bitcoin price drop? on: January 24, 2022, 12:52:44 PM
The only person who can truly answer your question is Bukele himself and none else, because we cannot be sure if they sold any bitcoins and where exactly they bought bitcoins also as far as I know since they didn't sell any bitcoins, we cannot say if they didn't lose anything or they got profits out of it. On the other hand, we all know the price of bitcoin will increase in long term and even if El Salvador don't get anything and even lose in the short term they still can hold profits in the long term this will take some time but I'm sure holding 1801 bitcoins for El Salvador can help their economic situation. 

Their economic condition with the decline in BTC prices will definitely have an impact.  There is only one strategy that can be used to cover their losses which is to buy in large quantities at the price dip so as to drive positive vibes in the market with the source of power they use.  Countries that legalize BTC must definitely experience this, it will never be possible, so this is a natural thing.
188  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 23, 2022, 05:20:05 PM

Ini sekedar saran buat yang baru-baru, timbun btc-lah dari sekarang, 2 atau 3 tahun baru jual. Kalau pun memang butuh buat modal, misalkan internet, rokok makan dll, sisihkan sedikit setidaknya 50%. Pengalaman saya, beratnya nimbun hasil signature di 2018 dan 2019 dibayarkan manis pada tahun 2021 kala btc 900 jutaan.

Ini momentum diskon harga BTC bagi para pemegang uang Fiat dalam jumlah besar. Daripada menghadapi krisis ekonomi dikarenakan pandemi yang entah sampai kapan usai, lebih baik menyisihkan beberapa persen aset kedalam BTC. Rusia dan China memiliki hubungan bilateral yang sangat kuat, wajar mereka memiliki kebijakan yang tidak jauh berbeda apalagi berkaitan dengan sistem keuangan mereka yang mulai terusik dengan kebijakan AS pasca kondisi hangat Rusia dengan Ukraina.
189  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia's Central Bank proposes ban on Cryptocurrency trading and mining on: January 23, 2022, 04:24:44 PM
The prohibition of trading and investing in BTC due to disrupting their economic stability is the regulator's alibi to secure centralized conditions that make them an overpowered party.  How can I say it, with a centralized system they have absolute power over the assets you keep in your account whereas if you use crypto they will not be able to intervene.  The step taken by Russia is one of many countries that do not want its system to be replaced.  This is normal in power politics.
190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 23, 2022, 02:29:36 PM

atm fought until the last minute, atm's struggle bore a sweet result, almost lost but the magic came, a goal in the 90th minute, and then added another goal in the 93rd minute, in extra minutes, it was really amazing, a win that would be a great moment the most beautiful, very difficult to forget, congratulations to atm for getting 3 points, and still being in 4th place in the standings..

Indeed, their game was very dramatic, from the first half they had fallen behind but after the second half even at the last time of the match they just followed behind.  In the end ATM deserves to be a winner in the match and a strong rival for the next real madrid. Their victory is an achievement to stay in their current position.  In the future, if ATM maintains their strategy, they will immediately get the second position with a score difference of only 10 points.
191  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 23, 2022, 01:06:09 PM
Liverpool have two games in hand to close the gap to Man City in the standings... They have to beat Crystal Palace away tonight! The next games won't be until February and they need to prepare for the Champions League game against Inter at the same time! Likewise for Chelsea, they need to beat Spurs... By the way, it will be their third match against Spurs this month! Grin

Unexpectedly Man City failed to win against Southampton, this indeed opens an opportunity for Liverpool to reduce the points gap with Man City,
so Liverpool have to beat Crystal Palace whose match is about to start soon. Then for Chelsea, who played badly in the last 4 matches, they must be
able to immediately win, in order to catch up with Liverpool's points. Chelsea will soon play against Tottenham, it will be a very interesting match.
Because Tottenham are improving their form after attracting Conte as their main coach. So it won't be easy for Chelsea to beat Tottenham, but Chelsea
have beaten Tottenham twice in the EFL Cup semi-finals before. Chelsea should have beaten Tottenham again, but Conte must have learned from
previous defeats, so maybe the Chelsea vs Tottenham match will be a surprise.

It's a shame since the first half Southampton went ahead with a goal in the 7th minute, but I don't think it's bad enough for City because from a possession side they are much more strategic.  It turned out that in the end my guess was wrong, good possession was not enough and the 1 goal they scored in the second half was still not good enough to beat Southampton.  Their defense was quite good until it ended in a draw.
192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NY Mayor Take First pay In Bitcoin via coinbase on: January 22, 2022, 10:31:05 PM

And since I've already drawn the pitchfork, as I read about his wealth his only income comes from the wage, so how is he going to do live for these three months, will he take a loan or will he just..., u know!


Maybe he can still live a good life because he's a Major.  salary received in Bitcoin is one of the many perks he may receive.  From the monthly salary he receives in Bitcoin, to live his life there are already food facilities, health facilities and other facilities that he receives without cash or through services.  I think so, regarding the development of BTC in adoption, not only NY Majors who take salaries in BTC there is a mosque in London, collecting zakat in the form of BTC so actually this is already at the adoption period.
193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 22, 2022, 04:39:58 PM

If it can indeed be proven it will be very extraordinary for Barcelona to occupy the top 4. I'm certainly looking forward to it with great pleasure. However, Barcelona also still has many obstacles and will not make the road to 4 achieved easily. Losing to Bilbao is a natural thing. Because the thin score produced by Barcelona has shown their achievements more than the previous game. If Barcelona continues to improve its performance, it is possible that the top 4 can be occupied.

The condition of the Barcelona team's decline in performance is certainly due to the lack of motivation that they can achieve when the management has stable finances, when the problem has gone viral and reaches the players, their psychology will definitely be disturbed, although not completely.  This condition is burdensome for Barca to continue better.  I think it's better for the management to look for bigger management funds to investors, otherwise the risk is that the club will collapse
194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 22, 2022, 03:52:52 PM

 To my great surprise, Watford still lost, and after the red card, they generally fell apart. 0:3 it's not just a defeat, it's a rout, in a match that was very important, although there will probably be many important matches for Watford now. Norwich got up from the relegation zone, but this is temporary because the three teams below have all played fewer games and could potentially overtake Norwich.

A very heavy defeat for the Watford team, the analogy is that you have fallen and also hit the stairs.  Their game also started to get emotional from the start of the goal scored by Norwich until a fatal mistake made Denis given a red card.  It seems they have lost the enthusiasm to play professionally and take this defeat as a lesson for the next match.
195  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will central bank digital currency (CBDC) make bitcoin worthless? on: January 20, 2022, 05:16:56 PM
CBDC'S are not cryptocurrencies, they are not even decentralized for that matters, I don't even know what good it will be considering we already have Visa and other form of online payment available, the visa company have a few problems right now considering their High fee but I do think that it would be sorted out soon enough. The Altcoins are not able to touch bitcoins despite all their efforts what makes you think that the digitalization of fiat would do something new? I do think that everyone is trying to move to a digitalized future meaning the companies are the government are bringing out something like the tokens but at the end I do think that how it works out depends on how people take it as, which would not be remotely close to bitcoins.

I also think that CBDC is only presented to threaten the existence of crypto because the government has been very disturbed by the results of this innovation, the reason is because of the bubble that was created.  How can BI be able to easily raise large amounts of funds under the guise of an unreasonable transaction.  Again, due to its prestige, it is only natural that CBDC will beat Crypto because that was the initial sale.
196  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 20, 2022, 05:06:27 PM
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Kalo begitu indikator orisinalitasnya adalah yang pertama kali melakukan mint untuk hasil karyanya di dalam blockchain, bukan ada teknologi khusus yang mendeteksi bahwa ini orisinil karena beberapa tes yang telah dilakukan. Saya pikir diawal demikian sehingga ini teknologi yang begitu keren, merupakan masa depan yang cerah bagi penggiat seni dan sebenarnya bisa saja kedepannya ada namun belum untuk sekarang.
197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: January 20, 2022, 04:05:38 PM
Tottenham has been back to their best ever since conte took charge and they look like a threat in the premier league again, seeing harry kane score and can play as a false 9 at same time is a joy to watch, I think Conte has done a good job with this team, and it they continue like this they will end up in the top 4 positions ahead of Arsenal.
Tottenham must maintain their performance in order to finish in the top 4 positions. The competition in the standings is quite tight, this season west Ham became a dark horse team that made it into the top 4. West Ham are ahead of Tottenham, Arsenal and Manchester United. Their point difference is quite close, Tottenham still has the opportunity to shift West Ham in 4th position, because they still keep 2 games unplayed, 1 point difference is easy enough for Tottenham to move up to 4th position.
Arsenal and Manchester United also have the same mission, these two teams collect the same number of points, the difference is 2 points from West Ham and 1 point from Tottenham. It's quite exciting to see these four teams fighting for the top 4 positions. If Manchester United fail to finish in the top 4, Ronaldo was forced to play in the Europa League.

Tottenham started to catch up, the difference with the 4th position is also very thin, even the next opportunity is full of challenges.  Facing Chelsea is not easy but it is possible they will win, in recent matches Chelsea have only been able to draw with their opponents.  Until I wonder what's wrong with them.  Getting to the top instead of the spirit of chasing City, they played quite standardly so they didn't struggle to win.
198  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 20, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
Dalam kasus mint ulang NFT, maka kita bisa kena kasus hak cipta jika diketahui oleh kreator, karena dia memiliki NFT ID dan tx hash saat mint, begitu pula dengan mint yang dari Google/socmed lainnya, jika diketahui kita mint gambar yang bukan Creative Commons yang boleh dikomersialisasikan, dan sampai ke owner, bisa jadi uploader NFT tersebut juga terkena masalah hak cipta.
Kayaknya ini bakal jadi masalah yang rumit dan pelik, apa lagi dengan mudahnya orang membuat NFT dengan gambar yang sama. sedangkan masalah hak cipta tentu juga akan semakin rumit lagi untuk menuntut ke siapa, karena kita tahu sendiri jaringan blockchain itu terdesentralisasi dan anonim, sangat sulit untuk menelusuri siapa yang mencopy-paste karya kita. Seperti si Ghojali, ane pernah lihat foto dia di market yang lain tapi lupa di mana, karena ane cari juga gak nemu lagi, kalau ane nebak ini kemungkinan seorang plagiat dan ketahuan copy poto Ghojali supaya dapat keberuntungan yang sama.

Jika seperti yang mas mas katakan, berati apa yang di sampaikan selama ini bahwa NFT menjaga keaslian sebuah seni yang telah terekam melalui kode unik dan apabila ada lagi yang mereka maka sistem blockchain sudah menandainya, maka hal tersebut tidak benar adanya. Saya sendiri memang belum pernah terjun ke dunia NFT sehingga tidak punya pengalaman untuk dibagikan, tapi dengan pengalaman temen temen disini pertanyaan terkait orisinalitasnya NFT semakin membuat saya penasaran.

Disini saya baca artikel tentang NFT dan orisinalitas karyanya yang cukup berbeda dengan pengakuan dari temen temen.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.jawapos.com/hobi-kesenangan/26/12/2021/nft-jamin-orisinalitas-karya-semua-seniman/%3famp
199  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Perkembangan NFT di Indonesia on: January 19, 2022, 11:17:52 PM
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Ada hal yang masih belum saya pahami karena belum pernah melakukan mint NFT, mungkin mas bisa bantu menjawabnya. Jika kita memint NFT gambar seperti yang paling umum kita temui saat ini, ala indikator utama bahwa itu orisinil dan bukan karya orang lain. Sebagai contoh, saya tidak punya karya tetapi saya mengambil dari google atau pinterest hasil karya orang lain yang belum di mint di opensea, lalu saya menjadi yg pertama mint gambar tsb ke dalam opensea, apakah itu tetap bisa?
200  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Growth of Bitcoin? on: January 19, 2022, 11:11:14 PM
The condition of El Salvador which has legalized Bitcoin is one of the advancements of technology that has existed since a few years ago despite its implementation, this is filled with certain reasons and motives that we may not know. Bitcoin and crypto have indeed shown significant developments not only from El Salvador, the results of Linkedin's publication that crypto and Bitcoin are the most sought after positions, even more than 400% increase from the previous year and have beaten the IT position.
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