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181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 28, 2024, 11:09:56 AM
Now, the Real Madrid lineup is tough. Best players in the world, competition is fierce. I get the worry he wont get enough minutes. But that performance, mark my words, Ancelotti will take notice. More starts, impact substitutions, whatever it takes - the kid has earned his shot. It would be a shame if he has to go on loan - playing for Real Madrid, thats the ultimate goal, believe me.

Ancelotti must really be aware of his ambition. However it is really not easy to give him a lot of time to play in a squad with full of star players. If it was similar to Barcelona squad then I wouldn't have any doubt about Arda Güler's finding many more chances. Ancelotti said that Arda Güler would stay with them this summer instead of a loan as well. I'm not feeling like this is good news for him.  Sad

Because I mean in this way it is more difficult to see Arda Güler playing regularly. But if he goes to another team on loan and shows a great performance by playing regularly then his chance would be much higher at Real Madrid when he comes back.
I think this depends on Arda Guler himself, I mean if he can give his best game then I'm sure he will get lots of opportunities to play. I think there is a strong reason why Ancelotti rarely gives him playing minutes.
This is a common thing, we even know that several well-known players also failed with Real Madrid. We can see Hazard, he has only been a bench warmer for years, even though in his previous team he got a lot of playing minutes.
Arda Guler must be able to convince a coach that he is worthy of playing minutes in this difficult squad.

Atletico Madrid will push for greater results but having settlement for lesser one is quite understandable. Los Colchoneros was ambitious and streak in their upcoming games, ensuring to grab winning in matches that was necessary. They've sealed their place in the UEFA Champions League next season and it's good news at their ends. Winning the top phase matches was simply an easy going for them. Atletico Madrid didn't relent until they accumulated three points for themselves. Diego Simeone didn't come here to play, he needs vital results and having them was no much challenging for them.
Atletico Madrid won again at home when they hosted Athletic Bilbao and this has made Atletico Madrid successful in maintaining its top four position in La Liga. And with not many more matches at the end of this season, Atletico Madrid can certainly save itself to remain in that position until the end of this season. Because Athletic Bilbao must hope for three defeats against Atletico Madrid in order to take the top four positions provided that Athletic Bilbao also does not lose in the next three matches. However, it seems that this will be quite difficult for Atletico Madrid at the end of this season.
They were successful in winning when they faced a team that was competing with them in the standings, they were able to win the match comfortably with a score of 3-1. They did not miss their advantage because playing as hosts in this match, they could beat Atletico Bilbao.
Actually, this game was a draw, but Atletico Madrid were able to take advantage of the opportunities they got more effectively and the result was a victory that they were able to secure at their own headquarters.
This result made them succeed in widening the gap to 6 pounds in the standings, and it looks like with that distance they will really be successful with the top 4.
182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 27, 2024, 06:04:36 PM
No need to underate nobody, doing that would be the fastest way to lose this game against Bayern Munich.
I'm not happy with the fact that Harry Kane could score 35 Bundesliga League goals with eight assist but yest won't be able to win the Bundesliga League Competition. Truthfully, I hope it does pays off next season. He deserves it!
Yes, Kane only joined Munich this season so he needs to adapt and it takes time, even in this season alone since he joined he has done a good job by scoring lots of goals and assists, even though he failed to bring Munich to win the title in the Bundesliga because Leverkusen has broken Munich's dominance which has so far lasted for 11 consecutive seasons has finally been broken, but Kane is blamed by all his fans for bringing bad luck to Munich even though it is not entirely his fault. because he is still relatively new to Munich and maybe next season he can bring Munich to many titles.

Talking about underestimating Munich, it seems that we may not be underestimating them, it's just that maybe there are a lot of changes that Tuchel needs to make in order to face Madrid in the semi-final match, especially since Madrid's statistics are far superior to Munich, Ancelotti may have prepared all the strategies and even tactics to face them. Munich, it is true that nothing should be underestimated because this is a semi-final match, both of them have a chance to win this match so they can qualify for the UCL final and win the UCL title this season.
I would accept that Kane was blamed because they failed to become champions if Kane didn't make a big contribution, but now the fact is that in the first season he joined he was able to make a big contribution to Bayern Munich's attack line with the goals and assists he was able to create. What is confusing them is Leverkusen who has appeared very impressive this season, because if Leverkusen cannot show that, then Bayern Munich will now be at the top of the standings.

Leverkusen are playing now against Stuttgart, and they are 2-1 behind Stuttgart until the 78th minute. Will their record be broken at the hands of Stuttgart, or as usual will they be able to create a surprise by scoring a goal in the final minutes of the match. It's worth waiting for their results in this match.
183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 27, 2024, 05:49:19 PM
Between these two teams, I think Xabi Alonso has a stronger mentality to bring Leverkusen to become champions this season. Apart from that, I admire the Leverkusen players because they are able to work together well in every match they play. For this reason, I believe that Roma will have difficulty beating Leverkusen.
The euphoria of Xabi and Leverkusen will continue to be felt and that will certainly also carry over into the Europa League and this is something that is very natural for them, because they are truly extraordinary. They received special attention from millions of eyes in this European League, especially after their success in becoming Bundesliga champions this season.
AS Roma will be their challenge to deal with now, and I think they will be able to handle it. Viewed from any angle, they are better than AS Roma, even though AS Roma itself is now showing a good process with De Rossi. I personally hope that Leverkusen can win the Europa League this season, because I think with their performance this season, they deserve it. I hope they don't get eliminated just because they were unlucky.
184  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading or Long term on: April 27, 2024, 11:09:27 AM
Before deciding to hold in the long term, of course we have to know for sure the potential of the coins we are going to keep and never hold coins that do not have good potential for the future which makes us lose by holding these coins, if we have a good understanding of how to analyze The market will of course make it easier for us to gain profits both in the long and short term and both of these things will be profitable for us.
I agree, it depends on the coins whether they should be traded for the short term or should be held for the long term, and we should also make sure that the budget we are going to use for long-term investments doesn't consist of the money that we might need in short term for anything else because you can't withdraw your money once you have invested it in case the assets you've bought don't stay in profit in short term.

Short term trades or day trading is best if we have proper knowledge and understanding of the market and we know that we can manage our trades very well in the short term, but without knowledge, it's both a waste of time and money and we should go for the long term instead.
Of course, we must have a good understanding before we make a decision, whether we will hold for a very long time, or whether we will choose to trade daily. If it is bitcoin, then there is no doubt that holding it for a very long time will bring us profits, but for other coins I can say so.
We must be able to analyze well and in analyzing we must have in-depth knowledge. We can't just look and jump to conclusions, especially if we make decisions because of hype or because we have FOMO. That is the wrong step for us to take. Because we can be said to have no reason to make us take steps like that.
It's actually very easy to invest, but in investing our goal is profit, right? So we must be able to carefully consider before making a decision.
185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: April 27, 2024, 10:51:13 AM
Manchester United will play a home match today and they will face a fairly easy opponent, namely Burnley. However, I still doubt whether the Red Devils can secure full points for sure or not, considering that in recent times, even though they can take the lead, sometimes their opponents can catch up and that's what I'm worried about. It looks like the defense will be the biggest focus and I think Erik ten Hag will have to do that if they want to win easily.

Apart from that, Burnley, who is still stuck in the relegation zone, seems to be trying hard to stay in the EPL next season because it is a bit strange to see a team promoted from the start of this season suddenly have to return to the championship division. So I think I will really look forward to the result and maybe I will bet on the goal over result, it is more realistic if Manchester United's defense is still being broken down frequently.
On paper, Manchester United should be able to handle Burnley well, because Burnley itself is one of the teams in the relegation zone now. With that comparison, we can see who is better among them.
However, the problem is that Manchester United is an inconsistent team, even though the opponents they face are teams that are much weaker than them. We'll see whether Erik Ten Hag will be able to bring Manchester United to victory, or they will be embarrassed by Burnley. I hope they can handle Burnley and win this game. The reason is that it would be very disappointing if they lost to a team in the relegation zone, apart from that they will also play as hosts in this match.

If Liverpool are going to continue with their horrible performance when they play against West Ham United today, the English Premier League title race will be decide among either Arsenal or Manchester City and I think Liverpool will try their best to prevent that scenario from happening. Liverpool does have a good playing record against West Ham United and I guess they should be able to beat West Ham United today.
Liverpool knows what is at stake for them if they lose to Westham United or draw; they will be out of the Premier League title race this season. I know Liverpool is not consistent now, but with the recent performance of Westham United, Liverpool is the favorite to win against Westham United. Westham United have been defeated in their last two Premier League matches, and I think Liverpool stands a better chance of taking three points from this match.
Liverpool still has hope, but if we look at their current position, then I can say they have been eliminated from the competition for the title, unless they get lucky in the form of their competitors (Manchester City and Arsenal) experiencing consecutive defeats. However, that is difficult to happen considering that Manchester City and Arsenal are also in good condition.
I didn't expect that Liverpool would have to accept bad results by losing 2 of the 3 matches they played and that made them be in the situation they are in now. They are 2 points away from Manchester City, but Manchester City has 1 match yet to be played and if they can win that match, then they will be able to widen the gap to 5 points.
186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: April 27, 2024, 08:46:02 AM
However this wining has already helped Lille alot because they now have a close point with Brest and also the chance to qualify to the champions League next season if they continue to win their matches, although their next match with metz is very certain they would win the match because metz is not strong enough so perhaps through that match they will be able to bring Brest down from the fourth position they are.

Lille lost 1-0 against Monaco after winning three matches in a row. 3 points against Monaco would have kept Lille in third place on the points table. And could have qualified for the Champions League. Lille is now 1 point behind Brest.

Brest have dropped points in their last two matches. The Brest team lost against Monaco and Lyon. And if Brest's players can't improve this performance, then Brest won't be able to keep the third place in the points table. Lille's overall performance compared to Brest is now very good and tidy.
Their defeat in the previous week could not make them shift their position from Brest, but they were lucky enough because at the same time Brest also suffered a defeat against Monaco. Their competition is now getting tighter after they are only 1 point away, and it will be determined in the remaining matches, who will occupy 3rd place in the final standings.
This can at least be a bit of a treat to see that the competition is still interesting, considering that we don't see competitive competition for the title in Ligue 1. This is something that is normal in Ligue 1, where Paris Saint Germain can always dominate the league better than any other team in existence. . Now they have also been confirmed as champions in Ligue 1 this season.
187  Economy / Economics / Re: Isn't it all about money? on: April 26, 2024, 12:49:33 PM
Are we saying a degree is some kind of fake promise? hat paper isn't everything. It's about effort, skill development, and effort. The game is continuously changing, and the world is different now. Education isn't simply about career preparation; it's about developing quick-thinking skills

You claim school's about information, not money? In our economy, knowledge is power. How you use knowledge, think outside the box, create agreements, and discover solutions is more important than memorising facts. Can you get rich without a degree? Yes, some do. These are outliers. Let's not pretend that illiteracy leads to achievement. Being smart, driven, and adaptable mentally is key
Education is not intended for us to get rich quickly, but education is a provision for us to be able to find a path that can lead us to something good. However, the problem is that now there are many people who misinterpret education, for example in my environment there are many parents who still say to give their children a high education so that they can easily get a decent job and in my opinion that is an inappropriate mindset.
Here a person's strong desire must also not be forgotten, because I see that some successful people are people who work hard with unyielding effort. Even though many are successful because of the privilege of being born into a rich family, for example, they just need to continue what their family has.
188  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: April 26, 2024, 11:36:00 AM
The match between Madrid and Munich is certainly like two European giants who meet and certainly we cannot guess who the team will win because both teams have the mentality and experience in the Champions League.
While Dortmund and PSG games won't be much different in my opinion, both teams will certainly put all their strength into the game regardless of the slightly different quality of players in both teams at the moment.

We will see an interesting game that will be shown by both teams, both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. I hope they are in their best condition when playing this match, don't let any of them be unprepared so that they won't be able to show their best game.
It won't be easy to see which of them will win this match, but in general, Real Madrid is more favored than Bayern Munich. That it is very likely that they will beat each other, that could happen, and maybe in the end they will have to determine the winner through a penalty shootout.
Let's see first who the first leg of the match will be. In the first leg, Bayern Munich will first host Real Madrid, this is an opportunity for them to try to win in the first leg.
189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 26, 2024, 11:17:25 AM
Truly Salerntana is going to Serie B. Nothing can be done this is because even if they win all the remaining 5 matches nothing can still be done to take them out of relegation. The probability of Frosinone surviving relegation is certain if they can win today and also win their next match. Because they have the same points of 28 with Udinese who is on top of them.
Salernitana's struggle for several seasons to stay in this division had to end this season, it was quite disappointing because last season they were better and got quite a lot of points, but this season they haven't even got half the total points they got last season, and Frosinone, who got a lot of points from home matches, will certainly not waste this big opportunity to increase their points and overtake Udinese, maybe Frosinone will even overtake Empoli, whose points will be the same if they win agints Salernitana but the goal difference between the two will affect the ranking.
The meeting between the two teams was dominated by a draw and very few goals, so it is possible that the final result of this match will be a draw.
There is nothing Salernitana can do in Serie A this season, they have to accept the fact that they have to be relegated this season. They are the worst team in Serie A this season, they are the team with the least number of wins and they are the team with the most defeats, there is nothing to expect from them.
By only collecting 15 points from a total of 33 matches they played, they have to be the team that is at the bottom and at the same time be the first team to confirm that they will not be in Serie A next season. Indeed, this result is a very disappointing result for them, but they really deserve to be relegated this season with their very messy performance like that.
190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: April 25, 2024, 05:07:33 PM
Basically, about Xavi being willing to stay as Barcelona's head coach is not about being good for fans, but good for Barcelona's own finances . Because of course, if Xavi leaves then Barcelona will also spend a lot of money again to recruit a new coach. Because after all, at the same time Barcelona still needs to buy some players which of course Barcelona will still spend money in the transfer window later . Therefore, Xavi's stay clearly makes Barcelona's finances may remain a little good, but the news that Xavi chose to stay I am sure has nothing to do with fans, because fans also cannot do anything to make Xavi stay or leave.
Negotiations only involved club management and Xavi, fans were not involved in it at all. The agreement between both parties means that Xavi will extend his tenure as Barcelona coach next season. This agreement will certainly be very beneficial for Barcelona. This season's failure can be evaluated next season, Xavi certainly has several plans to face the heat of competition in different competitions next season.

Reshuffling the team is Xavi main focus, perhaps there will be several players who will be released to other clubs and there will also be quality players brought in. Xavi will try to provide something new for Barcelona next season that can entertain his fans. Winning the La Liga trophy and also the Champions League is still Xavi target with Barcelona.
This is an advantage for Barcelona because it can convince Xavi to stay with them, because if Xavi refuses to stay then they will have the headache of looking for a coach who can replace Xavi, and there is also no guarantee that the new coach will be able to make Barcelona better. from Xavi's coaching period.
Not to mention their financial problems which have not yet been resolved, they have to spend more money to get a quality coach. I was quite happy when Barcelona could make a decision which I thought was quite right, because previously they were rumored to be firing Xavi or not extending Xavi's tenure as Barcelona coach. The reason is that if you look at their appearance even under Xavi's coaching, they actually didn't show anything bad.
191  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: April 25, 2024, 04:42:03 PM
Selamat malam kawan kawan semua, semoga kita selalu dalam keadaan sehat.
Saya ingin kembali mengajukan 10 postingan untuk di review oleh teman teman semua, dan seperti biasa saya selalu terbuka untuk menerima kritik dan saran dari semuanya.
Berikut postingan yang saya ajukan

192  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Seberapa PENTING MONEY MANAGEMEN Dalam TRADING KRIPTO on: April 25, 2024, 04:24:20 PM
Saya sadar gan money managemen itu penting karena tujuannya untuk memaksimalkan keuntungan dan meminimalkan kerugian dalam trading. Saya sendiri masih kesulitan buat menerapkan money manajemen. Apalagi klo udah terima profit yang lumayan, pasti saya seneng banget gan dan langsung coba buat dapetin profit lagi. Nggak banyak gan yang berhasil pasti setelah coba lagi rata-rata jadi rugi sama balik modal doang, terus cuman bisa nyesel akhirnya. Mungkin trader lainnya sama juga seperti saya. Sama kadang setiap mau mulai trading pasti saya punya target, dan targetnya kadang juga ketinggian. Jadi kalau harga udah naik dan nggak sesuai target saya tetep nunggu, sampek harga turun lagi dan berlalu. Kadang kalau mau pasang target sah-sah aja gan dan mungkin baik tapi dari pengalaman saya harus ngelihat kondisi pasar juga mungkin gan biar bisa menentukan target yang sesuai.
Saya rasa agan terlalu mengikuti keserakahan yang ada dalam diri, sehingga agan berulang kali mengalami hal yang sama, perdagangan yang seharusnya bisa membuat anda untung malah membuat anda mengalami kerugian atau hanya balik modal saja. Memang keserakahan akan selalu ada dalam diri seorang pedagang, itu tergantung kita bagaimana kita bisa mengendalikan keserakahan itu agar tidak kita ikuti. Karena memang ketika melihat keuntungan yang ada di depan mata, terkadang kita ingin lebih mendapatkan untuk lebih besar, dan disitulah sebenarnya letak kesalahannya.
Disiplin juga perlu ketika kita berdagang, kita harus menetapkan target, namun target itu harus terlihat realistis jangan sampai ketinggian berdasarkan modal yang kita bawa. Karena tidak jarang juga seseorang yang sudah menentukan target keuntungan, mereka masih bertahan karena berharap akan mendapatkan lebih target yang mereka tetapkan di awal. Itu adalah contoh ketidak disiplinan ketika berdagang, dan kita harus menghindari itu.
193  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saat ini trading meme coin paling banyak di minati on: April 25, 2024, 07:51:07 AM
Tidak dapat diragukan bahwa kebanyakan orang mengharapkan keberuntungan datang pada mereka dengan membeli memecoin. Dan biasanya mereka melihat orang lain mendapatkan keuntungan besar dengan berinvestasi pada memecoin, sehingga mereka juga mengikuti jejak mereka dengan harapan nasib baik datang kepada mereka juga.
saya sendiri sebenarnya tidak ada masalah jika mereka ingin berinvestasi pada memecoin, asalkan mereka juga tahu akan resiko yang akan mereka dapatkan dengan berinvestasi, terlebih dengan jumlah uang yang besar. Bagi orang yang berpengalaman mungkin itu akan bisa dihindari, karena mereka saya pikir sudah tahu apa resiko jika mereka berinvestasi pada memecoin, namun yang mengkhawatirkan adalah mereka yang pemula. sebab pemula belum tahu apa apa tentang memecoin, dan tidak jarang juga saya melihat mereka mendapatkan kerugian yang besar.
Itu artinya mereka mencoba keberuntungan bukan melihat potensi yang dapat mereka pilih dalam menentukan investasi terbaik. Melihat orang lain mendapatkan keuntungan di memecoin lalu mereka mencoba untuk melakukan hal yang sama akan cukup beresiko. Semua orang bisa mengambil pendekatan dengan memecoin akan tetapi yang terpenting mereka memahami dampak dan resiko yang akan ditimbulkan. Pemula lebih mudah terjebak dengan hype dan pada saat mereka melihat orang sukses meraup keuntungan di memecoin akan membuat dirinya mencoba tanpa pengetahuan yang jelas, sehingga akan menimbulkan masalah pada saat investasi yang di jalani akan berakhir berbeda atau dengan kata lain mendapatkan kerugian.
Ya memang para pemula biasanya akan lebih mudah untuk terkena FOMO, mereka tidak bisa melihat orang lain mendapat keuntungan mereka akan melakukan hal yang sama, meskipun koin yang mereka investasikan adalah koin meme yang kita tahu bahwa koin meme adalah koin yang ada dan bisa tumbuh hanya pada saat hype saja, setelah hype nya hilang koin meme akan ditinggalkan oleh para investornya.
Keberadaan media sosial yang di dalamnya banyak menampilkan orang yang memposting kesuksesan mereka dalam berinvestasi koin meme adalah salah satu faktor kenapa banyak pemula yang terkena FOMO. Mereka padahal tidak tahu berapa kerugian yang orang itu alami sebelum mereka mendapatkan keuntungan yang besar seperti itu. Namun pola pemikiran para pemula biasanya sudah terbentuk pada keuntungan dan keuntungan saja, mereka tidak memikirkan resiko secara matang sebelum mereka berinvestasi.
194  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Daftar Pemain Naturalisasi u/ Kualifikasi Pildun dari yang Termahal on: April 23, 2024, 04:34:09 PM
Naturalisasi/diaspora yang dulu levelnya beda dengan yang sekarang. Sebetulnya negara yang lain juga melakukan hal yang sama tapi mereka ga bisa dapat pemain bagus makanya nyinyirin Indo yang bisa dapat pemain mahal. Takut juga mereka kalau tren ini berlanjut nantinya timnas Indo levelnya udah jauh di atas mereka.
Betul, manajemen PSSI yang dulu juga tidak seperti sekarang, punya pelatih bagus karena ga juara langsung dipecat. PSSI sebelum ET juga hampir melepas STY, beruntung PSSI masih mau mendengarkan masukan dari berbagai pihak, ET pun mendukung penuh apa yang diharapkan oleh STY termasuk memilih pemain untuk naturalisasi. Jadi, memang wajar jika hasil naturalisasi saat ini termasuk sukses, karena STY juga bukan kaleng-kaleng. Yang nyinyir bukan negara sebelash saja sih, banyak juga yang lokal nyinyir. Saya pribadi sih ga berharap banyak dengan pemain murni Indonesia, karena liga juga gitu-gitu aja, fisik pemain kurang mendapatkan perhatian, berbeda dengan klub kasta ke-2 di Eropa sekalipun yang pasti akan memiliki porsi latihan yang lebih baik daripada klub lokal.
Nah itu dia yang saya lihat dari PSSI, dulu mereka ingin proses instan, misalnya setahun melatih Timnas Indonesia mereka langsung menginginkan tropy, mereka pikir gelar juara itu mudah di dapatkan, sedangkan para pemain kita tahu sendiri seperti apa. Saya tidak menyalahkan pemain karena memang ketika mereka bermain di klub para pemain tidak banyak diperhatikan dan itu berimbas pada fisik mereka.
Salah satu perubahan yang dibawa pelatih asal Korea Selatan, STY adalah fisik. Biasanya kita melihat Timnas bermain spartan sampai menit 60 saja, setelah itu mereka loyo. Namun sekarang kita bisa melihat mereka bisa terus berlari sampai menit akhir pertandingan, menurut saya itu adalah sebuah kesuksesan.
Tambahan pemain keturunan juga berdampak besar bagi Timnas kita, terutama Timnas senior. Biasanya saya lebih semangat ketika melihat pertandingan Timnas di kategori umur, namun sekarang saya lebih menantikan pertandingan timnas di level senior. PSSI juga tidak sembarangan dalam mencari pemain diaspora yang nantinya akan mendapatkan pasport Indonesia karena mereka menunggu rekomendasi dari pelatih dan juga para pemain yang dibawa merupakan pemain muda ynag memiliki masa depan. Misalnya saja Justin Hubner yang sebelumnya bermain bersama Wolves dan bahkan dia adalah kapten dikelompok umur  bersama Wolves.
195  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: mengapa banyak anak muda lebih memilih judi dari pada investasi? on: April 23, 2024, 03:34:15 PM
Biasanya untuk mengangkat topik seperti ini perlu adanya sumber kredibel yang bisa menguatkan argumen anda mengenai banyak kaula muda lebih memilih judi dari pada investasi. Jika ini hanya opini pribadi berdasarkan pengalaman yang anda lihat di kehidupan sekitar anda, mungkin kejadian seperti ini hanya terjadi di daerah anda saja.

Semua penjudi tahu ada dampak negatif dari permainan judi, mereka justru merasa tertantang dengan peluang yang ada dalam perjudian. Sebagian anak muda salah dalam mengartikan arti usaha dan peluang untuk masa depan yang lebih baik, seharusnya kata "Jangan pernah berhenti berusaha" digunakan pada tempat dimana mereka bisa menikmati hasil yang mereka tanam di masa sekarang seperti berinvestasi.

Saya sepakat dengan anda gan, bahwa OP harus mencantumkan sumber data yang jelas sehingga bisa mengatakan bahwa anak muda diindonesia lebih memilih berjudi daripada berinvestasi. Sebab jika hanya melihat dari lingkungan sekitar saja menurut saya setiap daerah memiliki angka berbeda mengenai anak muda yang berjudi dan berinvestasi.

Mengutip dari CNN INdonesia, judi online menjerat 2,7 juta jiwa yang sebagian besarnya datang dari generasi muda.
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"Dari 2,7 juta penjudi yang ada ini ternyata cukup banyak yang kaum muda, ya paling enggak [usia] 17 sampai 20-an lah,"
itu disampaikan oleh Menteri Komunikasi dan Informatika, Budi Ari Setiadi.
https://www.cnnindonesia.com/teknologi/20240419204045-192-1088301/judi-online-jerat-27-juta-warga-ri-mayoritas-anak-muda



Sedangkan melihat dari sumber databoks, ada 11,5 juta investor di pasar modal dan 57,04% diantaranya adalah anak muda yang berusia di bawah 30 tahun. Jika melihat data itu maka lebih dari 5 juta lebih anak muda yang menjadi investor, dan itu adalah jumlah yang lebih banyak daripada data orang yang berjudi.

https://databoks.katadata.co.id/datapublish/2023/10/06/investor-pasar-modal-indonesia-didominasi-gen-z-dan-milenial

Ini hanya anak muda yang berinvestasi di pasar modal, belum lagi data anak muda yang berinvestasi di ruang cryptocurrency.
196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 22, 2024, 11:37:00 AM
This year Leverkussen should be called Neverlussen  Grin as they still managed to get a draw even when they were playing against Dortmund at Dortmund home and they got down 1-0 in the 82th minute and they were still able to equalize the game in the 90+8th minute of additional time,showing huge determination and making the number of unbeaten games to 45 which is a monumental success.They could as well have accepted the lost game as it would not impact them but their mentality of winners impressed all of us yesterday.
Will they get a new nickname this season? Or is there a team that can break their record up to this moment? And I'm curious if there is a team that can break their record, which team can do that?
Borussia Dortmund were only close to beating Leverkusen, but they still failed to maintain their lead until the referee blew the final whistle. If you say this is luck, then I can't accept it. But even if it is said that this is not luck, then I also cannot accept that. It's really difficult to think about Leverkusen this season. Lol

Surprisingly, Werder Bremen won against Stuttgart. As a result, they have widened the gap to place 16 with 7 points. They probably realised just in time how important this game was.
The defeat from Stuttgart has lost them 3 points, but they are still 6 points away from place 5. Now it is more exciting again whether they will reach place 4 at least at the end of this season. If they had won this game it would have been 95% certain, that Dortmund would not be able to catch them.

This result meant that Stuttgart had to widen their gap with Bayern Munich to 3 points, whereas in the previous week they had the same points as Bayern Munich who were in second place. Meanwhile, for Bremen, this result allows them to stay away from the relegation zone for a while, because the competition to compete for the safe zone is also very tight now and anyone who experiences inconsistencies will be able to fall into the relegation zone.
I think Bremen was quite lucky in this match, they continued to be pressured but they were able to score 2 goals and they were able to maintain it until the game ended. Stuttgart did reply, but they could only reply with one goal.
197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: April 22, 2024, 11:16:03 AM
Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso is indeed a very scary team. They might even end the season in the Bundesliga without losing. but in the Europa League things are different. But if Leverkusen manages to win the European League title then that will be their most impressive achievement.
Leverkusen seemed to reject the defeat that came to them, in the Bundesliga when they faced Borussia Dortmund they were already on the verge of defeat, but they showed a very surprising surprise by scoring a goal in the final minutes before the game ended in the second half.
I think they have a big chance to do the same thing as they did in the Bundesliga. They will face As Roma in the semifinals, AS Roma is having a good atmosphere with De Rossi so it will be a challenge in itself for Leverkusen. AS Roma also just beat AC Milan in the quarter-finals which many people previously doubted. I think this will be a very interesting match, because they are both targeting high achievements in the European League. However, the burden is on As Roma, because they are still competing in Serie A, while Leverkusen no longer has a burden in domestic competitions.
198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: April 22, 2024, 10:56:37 AM
It all started with a quick own goal from Nemanja Matic which put PSG ahead of Lyon and in this match practically everything belonged to PSG. I didn't expect so many goals to be scored in the first half and PSG can certainly close out the win more quickly after the first half ended with a score of 4-1. After making a mistake, Lyon's defense became very weak and this was put to good use by the PSG players to continue attacking until they scored so many goals.

But unfortunately in the second half no more goals were scored and everything was over since PSG's 3 goal lead. Even if Lyon wants to change the result, I think it's very difficult because PSG won't let that happen and they just need to maintain that lead until the game is over. It feels like Lyon is still not capable enough to beat PSG this season and in the end they lost again after 5 matches without losing.
Paris Saint Germain won this match easily, they were able to score a quick goal even though it was an own goal, but 3 minutes later they were able to double their position. They were able to control the match in the first half and at their peak they were able to score 4 goals before the first half ended. Lyon, who tried to give them resistance, could only score 1 goal in the first half.
In the second half, neither team could score another goal. However, this was a normal thing for Paris Saint Germain because Paris Saint Germain was very comfortable with the lead they had in the first half. It is very difficult to see a team that can compete with Paris Saint Germain in Ligue 1, they have become the rulers of Ligue 1 who are difficult to stop.
199  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is not a lifetime job. on: April 21, 2024, 10:37:33 AM
There are people that has earn huge from trading and we should not say it is not a lifetime job.
When you have something giving you money everytime, would you stop doing that same thing because someone said it's not a lifetime job. Trading is quite better than the regular jobs we hunt for because once we are getting funds from it, we should be satisfied and keep doing it to earn more from the market. Trading is good if we now how to go about it and make money foe ourselves.
To be honest, trading can be a lifetime job if you are exceptionally skillful on it and is gaining sustainable profits every time you decide to trade. However, not all trades turn into profits regardless of our expertise in trading, as there are times that inevitable losses happen in the market. So for me, trading greatly depends based on your own personal experiences, and since we have varied experiences in trading, that also means we have different points of view about it when it comes to having it as a lifetime job.
You are right, no matter how skilled a person is in trading, it does not guarantee that they will make a profit every time, because sometimes there are times when they also predict a very volatile market incorrectly. I won't even believe it when someone says they have never experienced a loss when trading, because losses are inherent. The only difference is that they can minimize losses and recover quickly when they experience losses because of their trading skills.
If we talk about whether trading is a job for life or not, I also agree with you, even that depends on our respective points of view. If someone thinks that it can be a lifelong job then they can do it, and if someone says it can't be a lifelong job, that's not wrong either.
200  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saat ini trading meme coin paling banyak di minati on: April 21, 2024, 10:14:18 AM
Baru baru ini, trading meme coin mengalami peningkatan volume perdagangan, trading memecoin yang paling banyak di minati adalah, Pepe, floki, Shiba, doge, meme dan banyak lain nya, menurut kalian, kenapa orang sekarang banyak membeli memecoin?
Mungkin mereka menganggap membeli memecoin bisa memberikan kekayaan cepat dan mungkin harga memecoin lebih terjangkau dibandingkan dengan bitcoin. Kesalahan kita orang Indonesia selalu berfikir untuk mendapatkan keuntungan besar sehingga mereka mencoba melakukan sesuatu berdasarkan keputusan pribadi tidak melalui pertimbangan dengan menggabungkan pengetahuan. Memecoin hanya bersifat jangka pendek dan ketika orang tidak memahami perjalanan pasar justru mereka tidak akan pernah mendapatkan keuntungan.

Ada sejumlah orang mungkin menyimpan memecoin untuk jangka panjang dan ini adalah kebodohan yang seharusnya tidak dilakukan meskipun tidak semua orang melakukannya. Jika lebih siap menghadapi resiko maka membeli memecoin bisa dilakukan hanya untuk mendapatkan keuntungan kecil di jangka pendek maupun menengah dan itu cukup tergantung dengan pengetahuan yang kita miliki.
Tidak dapat diragukan bahwa kebanyakan orang mengharapkan keberuntungan datang pada mereka dengan membeli memecoin. Dan biasanya mereka melihat orang lain mendapatkan keuntungan besar dengan berinvestasi pada memecoin, sehingga mereka juga mengikuti jejak mereka dengan harapan nasib baik datang kepada mereka juga.
saya sendiri sebenarnya tidak ada masalah jika mereka ingin berinvestasi pada memecoin, asalkan mereka juga tahu akan resiko yang akan mereka dapatkan dengan berinvestasi, terlebih dengan jumlah uang yang besar. Bagi orang yang berpengalaman mungkin itu akan bisa dihindari, karena mereka saya pikir sudah tahu apa resiko jika mereka berinvestasi pada memecoin, namun yang mengkhawatirkan adalah mereka yang pemula. sebab pemula belum tahu apa apa tentang memecoin, dan tidak jarang juga saya melihat mereka mendapatkan kerugian yang besar.
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