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181  Other / Meta / Re: Bumping changes on some boards on: September 13, 2019, 03:41:24 PM
It's contradictory that bump score sorting is forcedencouraged by being the default but
it can't be selected manuallly.
Just click the navigation under "MY MESSAGES": Announcements (Altcoins) brings you back to default sorting.

Or edit the URL:
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0;sort=last_post
Remove the last part to go back to default ("bump") sorting:
Code:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0

WADR, I'm not looking for a workaround. I reported a design issue in the implementation of the feature
and its effect on usability. I also suggested a way to solve it. It's a matter of UI consistency.
182  Other / Meta / Re: Bumping changes on some boards on: September 13, 2019, 05:15:40 AM
Just bookmark the board with any sort order you prefer, no hoops needed.

Thanks, but if I do that I can't switch to bump score. With the current implementation the only way
to have bump score sorting is by default. If you switch to somthing else you can't switch back.

It's contradictory that bump score sorting is forcedencouraged by being the default but
it can't be selected manuallly.
183  Other / Meta / Re: Bumping changes on some boards on: September 13, 2019, 03:14:08 AM
I have a concern about the implementation.

It introduces a new sorting scheme while bypassing the existing sorting controls. It is possible to select
sorting by last post, or any other column, but no way to return to bump score sorting without jumping through
hoops (I don't like jumping through hoops).

IMO the way to have implemented this would have been to create a new bump score column which can be
used as a sort key like any other column.

An added bonus would be to have a user defined default so people who prefer last post sorting, like me,
don't have to constantly set it manually (more jumping through hoops).
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. on: September 13, 2019, 02:24:32 AM
So the next question is how many times can you access the HBM per cycle.
In my algo proposal you will have a random stream of instructions for every new block. (15000 PTX instructions / 15 sec blocktime).
On the GPU you will just run the ptx. (cuda will compile and cache the code before execution and it will take a few milliseconds). After the compilation has been done, you get 14.xx seconds left to run the compiled kernel in full speed. On the FPGA you cannot generate the VHDL code compile and flash in 15 seconds, so you need to make a CPU emulator. This is because it would probably difficult,slow or impossible to generate VHDL out of random instructions and run it without timing bugs.

By using PTX you're esentially using a proprietary language to prevent anything but a Nvidia product
or a Nvidia licensed product from mining your algo. That's one way to make an algo ASIC/FPGA resistant.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Theresa May coin on: September 10, 2019, 03:10:09 PM
I wouldn't do that if I were you. There's a problem with the BorisJohnson blockchain,
it keeps forking, is full of orphaned blocks, and can't confirm any transactions.
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell / Pascal kernels. on: September 07, 2019, 11:49:09 AM
The problem is x16rv2 isn't any more ASIC resistant than v1. All it really needs is development
of a Tiger kernel which shouldn't be too difficult. The only thing that would prevent it is lack
of market demand. Lyra2v3 has a similar problem.

It's not easy to make an algo GPU friendly and ASIC resistant. It would have to target a resource
that GPUs have in abundance that would be too expensive to implement on an ASIC. I'm not aware of any.

Permuted instructions can be worked around with a RAM code segment so it just increases RAM requirements.
A bigger dataset has the same effect. Ironically Lyra2REv2 used a smaller dataset than Lyra2RE to give GPUs
an advantage over CPUs. Lyra2REv3 did not change the size of the dataset.

In the end coins that fork to new algos periodically as an anti-ASIC strategy do little more than create
a planned obsolenscence environment driving demand for new ASICs.
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Yiimp mining 2 different coins with the same algo on: August 31, 2019, 01:10:10 PM
I will report any insult thrown at me. If you give an answer, give an explanation, not a line that has no meaning.

So let me summarize:

A supposed c++ developper installs pool software for a feature without verifying the feature is present, configured,
or knowing how to use it, asks for help to use the feature, completely misunderstands the instructions,
blames the responder, challenges his competence, then whines about being insulted.

It's your competence that's in question.

188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Yiimp mining 2 different coins with the same algo on: August 30, 2019, 06:36:31 PM

There's a lot he doesn't know, like how to accept help when he asks for it.

It seems to be a common theme. The person trying to help ends up being
blamed and flamed.

It's pretty childish but it's fun to see if they ever figure out their own stupidity
or have to be spoon fed like a baby. We have the answer in this instance.

Any chance he'll come back and say I was right all along? Not likely.

189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Yiimp mining 2 different coins with the same algo on: August 29, 2019, 11:47:57 PM
A closed mind can't be helped.


Is that your answer? Are you here to confuse people or to help them. I am a C++ developer there is no mention of a mc= option in the stratum source code.
What should I do to open my mind?

Any help is welcome.

It's your own fault you're confused, your second post made no sense. In your first post
you said you're using c=. Don't. Use mc= instead. How difficult is that?
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Yiimp mining 2 different coins with the same algo on: August 29, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
A closed mind can't be helped.
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Yiimp mining 2 different coins with the same algo on: August 29, 2019, 03:36:54 PM

I specify the coin with c= but it is always the same coin that is chosen.


c= is the payout coin, you want mc=
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: If i have 20 Computers and they work 24/7 how much i can earn? on: August 28, 2019, 02:11:28 AM
How on earth did you calculate the OP would ever make $400 to $600?

I didn't calculate anything.  He asked a stupid question, so I gave a stupid answer!   Grin

Maybe a little too subtle. Wink

My response is if you have 20 computers try it and find out, if you don't try one computer and
multiply by 20.

As far as abusing company/school resources, go for it. The response from IT should be interesting.
Be sure to tell us all about it.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] ZERGPOOL.com - Multialgo, autoexchange, 0.5% fee, 250+ coins on: August 28, 2019, 01:50:16 AM
I have been investigating a problem of invalid job id rejects mining various algos at zergpool.

It looks to me like like the miner never receives the new block from the pool. I have opened a
git issue (https://github.com/JayDDee/cpuminer-opt/issues/193) to investigate from the miner
side but it llso needs o be investigated from the pool side.

I haven't found any delays in the miner detecting a new block, it appears the message was never
received and the miner continued to submit shares for the old block until the next block was
sent by the pool.

Did the pool fail to send the block to that miner or did it get lost?

I did some more testing and it seems I'm receiving stale data from the pool. I'm getting data
regularly but sometimes it has an old job id.

There are no errors reported, I copy the data from the socket and it has the same job id

In the following you can see the sequence with a couple of debug printfs and annotations.

Code:
[2019-08-27 17:13:08] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://yespowerr16.mine.zergpool.com:6534
[2019-08-27 17:13:08] 16 miner threads started, using 'yespowerr16' algorithm.
[2019-08-27 17:13:09] Stratum difficulty set to 0.5
newjobcheck (null)   (null)
newjobcheck 7e61   (null)            <----------------------------------------------------------------- first job received
newjob
[2019-08-27 17:13:09] yespowerr16 block 463840, job 7e61, network diff 0.0072
newjobcheck 7e61   7e61             <----------------------------------------------------------------- second job, same job id
[2019-08-27 17:13:41] Share 1 submitted by thread 1, job 7e61.   <------------------------ share submitted with provided job id
[2019-08-27 17:13:41] Rejected, diff 1.41e-05, 32.665 secs, A/R/B: 0/1/0.
[2019-08-27 17:13:41] reject reason: Invalid job id.          <------------------------------------ share rejected as expected

I hope this provides a clue of what's going on so it can be solved.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][POOL] ZERGPOOL.com - Multialgo, autoexchange, 0.5% fee, 250+ coins on: August 27, 2019, 07:29:46 PM

MERGE-MINEABLE COINS SHOULD BE MARKED--

At the very least it should be obvious which coins are merge-mineable.  They should have punctuation (superscript, subscript, asterisk) or a special color or special color underlining.

I don't know which coins are capable of merge-mining, and I don't know if all merge-mineable coins are merge-mined by default.


[sarcastic]

Don't be so pig headed, it's not that complicated. The profit of the parasites is near zero anyway.
Just mine LTC for a few minutes and see what other coins pop up in your pending list.

Whining about the design of the pool software is unproductive. Make a feature request to the devs
if it's that important to you.

[/sarcastic]
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: what is overall state of alt coin mining status? on: August 26, 2019, 03:48:35 PM
Mining is still depressed from the bubble bursting. The bubble caused an explosion in mining
but when the bubble burst all that mining didn't burst with it. All those ASIC miners and GPUs
don't just disappear. At the same time more efficient miners continue to enter the market
adding more to the mining glut.

I only mine part time now when electricity is cheap.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Beware of scam miner software on: August 26, 2019, 03:39:32 PM
They are so easy to spot its kind of pathetic.

Yes for some of us.  But we have to know there are some noobs that come here daily looking to get rich quick.  Boy are they in for a surprise. 

BR

Precisely why tagging the scam posts important and why I started this thread, security in depth, as they say.

Keeping this thread (or any similar warning) on the front page will help discourage the scammers.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Beware of scam miner software on: August 26, 2019, 04:38:15 AM
@joblo

I have written a few weeks ago about this problem here on the Forum and when i see them i tagg them and report them !

Yes tagging them is important so unsuspecting users are warned, but it's a game of wack-a-mole.
Poop has been tagging also.

Thank you for your good work.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]: cpuminer-opt v3.9.7, open source optimized multi-algo CPU miner on: August 25, 2019, 09:24:46 PM
My take on RandomX, cryptonight, Monero, etc.

As previously reported I have stopped trying to support the high level of algo development
by Monero and the variants of cryptonight. There exist excellent open source miners already
for this family of algos that are being actively developped. They are very well written with
little to no potential for further optimization.

In other words I have nothing to contribute. Trying to keep up would be a lot of work for no
benefit beyond the convenience of the additional algos in a single miner. Many Monero
miners are dedicated and don't usually mine other algos so the extra 100 algos would be just
bloat to them.

When and if development stabilizes and the dust settles I may consider re-importing
Cryptonight and RandomX and resume support.

I make no promises and there is no timeline.
199  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Q: Converting diff to hash on: August 25, 2019, 07:07:49 PM
TLDR: sharediff error was a bust, back to square 1.

I analyzed the code and did some testing to verify sharediff and the variables
used to calculate it.

The 256 bit arithmetic is done by converting the hash and target to double
using a simple polynomial:
Code:
 const double base = (const double)(1<<32) * (const double)(1<<32);  // 2**64
 double dhash = hash[0] + hash[1]*base + hash[2]*base**2 + hash[3]*base**3;

This will introduce some loss of precision but not a 4x error. The resulting precision
matches the precision of the networkstratum diff which is also double.

NetworkStratum diff is obtained from the pool and matches, therefore correct.

Hash is as accepted by the pool, therefore correct.

Target is calculated from the networkstratum diff. If the target was too low if would produce
occasional low diff rejected shares, which isn't happening.

If the target was too high there would be no errors but the miner would neglect to
submit shares that would be accepted, resulting in a lower hashrate at the pool.
That was not observed.

In addition, I did some testing by raising the difficulty by 4x and low difficulty shares
were produced. 2x higher also produced low diff shares proving the original target
was neither too low nor too high.

The formula used:

sharediff = networkstratumdiff * target / hash

I can find nothing wrong with the sharediff calculation. It points back to the constant divisor
in the wiki arcticle being in error.

I'm willing ro accept it's simply a documentation error. My confidence in my code has increased
by doing a detailed analysis, however, it's still a hack without a proper explanation.

Edit: corrected references to stratum diff instead of network diff
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Beware of scam miner software on: August 25, 2019, 04:08:22 PM
There have been a large number of scam miner programs being posted here recently.

They are always closed source and only avaiable as binary files for Windows.
Crypto miners are the vehicle for the malware because they are known to generate
false positives by AV scanners and inexperienced users ignore the alert thinking
it's just another false positive.

Their ANN post tries to look legitimate, often copying text word for word from other miners ANNs.
They may post change logs to make it look like they have a history.
They may create github repositories with no source code, sometimes even claiming to be open source
with fake links that Windows users would never test.

They often target other newbies with claims of being easier to use.

There are a few clues to detect them:

Always posted by a newbie user.

Always closed source with only Windows binaries avaiable to download.

Slick ANN post with sprinklings of technical info often copied from others.

Real devs have credentials that can be verified: posting history, other work, testimonials from
trusted users, etc.

There have been several of these malware posts in the last week.

Any offer from a newbie user, especially closed source, should be taken with a healthy dose of
skepticism.

Stay alert and stay safe.
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