thank you. minus the whinging part.

i said i would do escrow, by the way. that's to goosoodude

to the rest, what am i complaining about? have you... have you people seen the digital goods section? holy hell is all i will say. i feel i should get jail time for just browsing that section. so yeah, when my topic gets moved there what do you think others will think of my offer? of course, i also get accused of having multi accounts. what else do you got? let's just all assume everyone is a scammer and let's see where that takes us.

been lurking here awhile. made a account a month ago. just because i'm new here i'm by default labeled a scumbag scammer. i made a topic in currency exchange and it got moved to one of the shadiest places i have ever seen (moved to digital goods).

the one damn time i needed help this happens. for a month i tried to help others (most ignored me). never asked for a damn thing. my offer was pretty good as well. news flash bitcointalk veterans: i have been online since 1996. not every new person here is a scammer kid living in their parents basement. i even said escrow since i'm new here. you want people buying and using bitcoin, yeah? well, being labeled a thief by default does not help your cause.

/rant

I usually buy $25 visa giftcards (vanillavisa.com) and get it exchanged to bitcoins. I would send them a $25.00 giftcard with images of the front & back and I would get $20 worth of bitcoins back. If any is willing to do this, you can charge a bigger fee if you want. Of course I would use escrow as i'm new here.

Thank you.

nikona, you do know other books (not bitcoin) have tried in the past to have a live betting experience like cloudbet but ended up losing so much they dropped out, right? for instance 5dimes tried and it did not last long. 5dimes. one of the oldest offshore books around. i say all of this as i'm sure they screwed you by taking a live game off the board or removing a bet type and that's why you quit. the thing is, they have to do this scammy/scummy crap to not i do not know... go out of business. the trick is to avoid those types of games where they pull that shit.

you know what though? i have no idea why i care what others think and i'm doubting the use of my time it took to write my opinions. i just like their book and want to see them stick around. by the way, www.sportsbookreview.com is the real deal as far as monitoring books. they have been in this game 15+ years. you should check them out.

EDIT: all of what i say goes only for US players. bet365 online betting is the best in the business but they do limit you fast if you win. so yeah, cloudbet live betting is the best for US players. betonlne.ag at a close second but it's a pain in the ass getting paid from them. nitro is the best odds hands down. however, no live betting.

downgraded where? if not by SBR (www.sportsbookreview.com) it means nothing. all i see are people trying to find faults with this site. usually they are losing big at the time. a losing streak is a god damn nightmare but it's not the books fault. also, any mis-graded wagers were corrected within the hour for me. i do admit their CS is so slow, it's pointless. that's another one of the negatives i forgot to bring up. oh, and they grade anything not soccer very slowly.

did the cloudbet owner(s) do something real shitty in the past i'm not aware of? did the owner(s) used to run a scam book before cloudbet? i just do not understand the hate they get. there is someone crying foul on almost every page in this topic.

consider me a shill even though i have gone broke many times playing their slots and am broke right now...

cloudbet does a lot of things right. you will not find another bitcoin book that has so many live betting soccer options. yes, they do some live betting shady things at times. for instance: taking a game off the board so you can not hedge. also, taking every game off the board at the 88th minute is also not cool. they do more right though.

this is coming from someone who used to play at offshore books for years. i have seen all the good and bad with online books. cloudbet would be in my top 5 all time.

in my opinion.

same with the CS. oh well, we lost out on wins but avoided loses. silver lining. good luck with your future bets.

EDIT: i forgot to say i'm not new either. this has only happened once before. i bring this up as if new people are reading, do not worry it will get fixed.

EDIT 2: i got credited. check your account eoakland

any one else having problems with deposits? it's been hours since i sent them money and i missed a good bit of winning bets. blockchain is telling me it was even already spent and it has tons of confirms. i deposited twice.