I gotcha.

I had thought about it, but figured it'd be premature to PM people before John K has stopped by to weigh in.  I figured maybe a good portion of people would confirm this weekend when they have a chance to log in.  I guess it wouldn't hurt to PM everyone who hasn't confirmed; I'll put something together today.

It should be.  I'm not actually in communication with John K. right now, so I don't know what he has.  I'm just trying to keep us moving forward and try to provide a central point of documentation.  Hopefully my spreadsheet will assist John K with his refund task.  But it may be that he already has other plans.  Again, I don't know.  I just want to consolidate as much information as I can until we hear from John K.

Why do you think that they want gov.t issued driver's license to begin with?  Here's a hint: it's the nanny-state.  They are causing this issue for our disabled friend, and he (justly so IMHO) is stating that if they are going to fuck him because of nanny-state id requirements, he hopes it takes them full circle and fucks the site too.

Nowhere did he call on the nanny state to intervene on his behalf.

Daily refund update:

The following users still haven't provided any refund address to me or redphlegm.  As always, if you've already contacted John K. then you should be ok, but you won't show up on my refund list.  To show up on my refund list, please PM me with your preferred refund address.


The following users have provided addresses, but have not confirmed with me via PM.  We've already discovered one fraudulent entry in redphlegm's form (since anyone can fill it out), so please verify that your address is indeed correct on my spreadsheet as an extra security measure.


Also, anyone whose refund address I found on this thread in the last week were marked as "Posted" under the Confirm column.  If you'd prefer to just post here, I'll pick that up too.

Edit: Posting the URL to the refund sheet again just in case:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

Edit2: Just went back a bit further and found some additional refund addresses posted in this thread.  List updated.

Yea, to be able to execute trades.  Prices are going to bottom out WAY before that.

Daily "Refund Confirmation" Update:


All PM's from yesterday and this morning were recorded to the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

The following users do not have a record for refund address on redphlegm's spreadsheet, nor have I received any communication nor has anything been posted in the forum:


If you have already contacted John K., please let me know so we can keep a public tally of where we stand as far as refunds.  Otherwise, I have addresses, but not confirmed for the following people (considering ANYONE could have filled out redphlegm's form with your username, I don't consider a refund address "confirmed" unless I get a PM; how John K. handles this may be different)



If you are on the first list, please inform me or John K. of your preferred refund address.

If you are on the second list, please double check the sheet to ensure your address was correctly recorded:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

and then PM me confirmation or change requests.

Thanks Guys; hopefully my effort here can speed things up for John K., who is undoubtedly busy catching up with things that transpired during the bitcointalk blackout.

I'm out.  Call it a panic sell if you wish, once the SEC Eye is pointed this direction I wash my hands of it.

Just synced my spreadsheet with redphlegm's.  Here are the users with no return address:

sveetsnelda
alle.sello
spanishfry
tromacca' *not real nick*
AmpEater
magixx
Hiroaki
2weiX
shep80
ZeroPAiN
nebiz
TRiMBY
456191
sun
strombom
bitrocket


If you see your name on here neither I nor redphlegm nor John K have a return address for you.  Please post your return address or PM it to me to have it added to the sheet.

Everyone else, please PM me to confirm that I have your valid address.

Also, here's the spreadsheet link again so you don't have to go digging:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE&usp=drive_web#gid=3

*crickets*

But GUYS!! He said he was sorry! 

Redphlegm pm'd you last week with a refund address form.  I just re-forwarded you the link for the results.  That should be pretty complete with over 9000 chips accounted for.  If you cross reference his form results (which were filled in by users) with the chip count form that I put together from the thread, you should have an accurate count for each user who filled out the form.  Let me know if you need anything else.

We could definitely move ahead with the refund, minus the 32 chips.  Then that can be decided later.


And I want to be clear; I care not what happens to the 32 chips, except I don't want Raging to get anything more than he deserves, which I think is zero.  I have 20 chips in this buy, so my say is negligible.  I just remember all the anxiety and stress about what was going to happen to this group buy that was caused when he just up and disa-fucking-ppeared.  I resent him for that and I want to make sure that he is in no way rewarded.

I'm not intending to be petty.  The point is not to make a few bucks for myself, but rather to keep Raging from being 2 some odd btc up from this group buy, when he so obviously mishandled it.

Either way, the vote spreadsheet is here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/197FRCI5sRWs9UDuHSZ9HFTO_7_WD4acvAlcKMMCWyAE/formResponse

Mob rule seems to work pretty well.

You called it vaporware.  Now that there is evidence of progress, suddenly it's not "vaporware" but "amateur hour".  You said "Show us what we are buying!" and then when they did, you criticized that.  If you don't like what you see, then move on. 

The spreadsheets are available.  John K hasn't said anything about additional info.  AFAIK the chip count on my sheet is dead on.  Redphlegm where are we with your sheet?  The last I checked it was about 1000 chips short. 

Slush pool site is down; is mining affected?  I can't tell because I monitor through Slush's API and website.

There's always got to be at least one.  Notice the username too.  Fitting.

Use them or sell them.  They're yours.


Trivialize it all you want.  You fucked shit up.  You received some chips early and didn't do as you were asked.  It's more important to me that you pay for everything you got; I want you to profit 0 from this group buy.  I'd even be OK with donating that 2.5 BTC to Shawn's Outpost or something, as long as you don't get it.

* Quantity of chips (ex: 256)

41

 * Batches (ex: Batches 2 & 3 )

Batches 3 & 5

 * Date refund was requested

08-Sep-2013

 * Date refund was received (empty if not received)

20-Sep-2013

 * If order was for "Chips-only" or "K16 Assembly"

K16 Assembly

We could back and forth, but I propose we vote.

I made a simple form for this express purpose:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/197FRCI5sRWs9UDuHSZ9HFTO_7_WD4acvAlcKMMCWyAE/formResponse

I know the chips were 1/3 of one percent of the total buy, and thus is generally insignificant, but at this point I'm so upset with Raging's handling of this group buy and subsequent behavior that I don't believe he should receive even a satoshi more than he absolutely has to in this group buy. 

So here's ANOTHER form that you can choose to fill out if you wish, and we can gauge how to go forward with regards to the sample chips.