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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 14, 2019, 06:24:14 AM
Small typo: it's dcrypt, not dcypt. Only if you didn't see it. Otherwise, I think it's a good text. Smiley
Edited! Thank you very much  Smiley

Yes looks good. Thanks for taking the initiative to get this done.
SLM is a good place to stay. Thank you to everybody for the help provided  Smiley
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 13, 2019, 11:53:12 PM
There is an interesting ongoing discussion with Graham on Discord.

So I'm editing our announcement with Graham's suggestions:

"Officially announced on May 17th, 2014 and fairly launched 4 days later Slimcoin is one of the few truly decentralized coins around. Whoever wants to join and contribute to its development in any way is welcome. Its Proof-of-Burn (or virtual mining) algorithm, that by the recent estimates provides up to 30% of yearly SLM returns, grants to everybody the possibility to mine coins without any specific hardware and with a minimal computing power employed. It also contributes to a balanced power structure without an almighty elite and to a clean environment for the future generations. The economic model that is behind the Proof-of-Burn mechanism is not within the get-rich-fast logic, but rewards the long-term involvement. So Slimcoin has a potential to shine should the traditional coin’s markets become saturated. Along with a unique mining mechanism, Slimcoin offers the ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm dcrypt and PoS. The community is active on Discord and Bitcointalk."

I'll try to put hyperlinks on first Proof-of-Burn mention and on the words "Discord" and "Bitcointalk" at the end of the text.
If there is any other suggestion please speak now or forever hold your peace Smiley as we are already a bit late with delivery and I'd say it's mandatory to send the announcement this weekend.
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 13, 2019, 09:19:12 PM
FTR:

It's PoW mining, just as Iain Stewart described it back in Dec 2012: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_burn: "Burnt coins are mining rigs!"

printf("CPUMiner started for proof-of-burn\n");

https://github.com/slimcoin-project/Slimcoin/blob/dffb8f27dae301758523acce8de4359ce0d383aa/src/main.cpp#L5618:
Code:
                //hash it as if it was not our block and test if the hash matches our claimed hash
                uint256 hasher;
                GetBurnHash(pblock->hashPrevBlock, pblock->burnBlkHeight, pblock->burnCTx,
                                        pblock->burnCTxOut, hasher, use_burn_hash_intermediate(pblock->nTime));

printf("CPUMiner : proof-of-burn block found %s\n", pblock->GetHash().ToString().c_str());

Perhaps the advert could include a reference to the bitcoin wiki page because it attests to Slimcoin's status as a senior altcoin with a unique distribution mechanism.

Cheers

Graham


I hope there is a possibility to put hyperlinks there. Thank you for your suggestions!
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 12, 2019, 05:57:17 AM

What about the following formulation: "that by the recent estimates provides up to 39% of yearly SLM returns" (instead of "yearly profit")?

Sounds good too me, edited!

Yep, PoS is at 10%:
Code:
int64 nRewardCoinYear = nTime > POB_POS_TARGET_SWITCH_TIME ? (10 * CENT) : CENT;
(CENT is 0.01 SLM, so an 1-year-old 1 SLM utxo gets 0.10 SLM, or 10% of its value.)

I however have a bit a hard time to promote that because I consider that value relatively high, and I would like to see it lowered in a future hard fork. For now, a hard fork is obviously very difficult, but if we progress with the new Peercoin code implementation somewhen, then a HF will eventually become mandatory. It's obviously up to the community to decide a new PoS reward. And the high PoS rewards are surely a feature that can attract new users now. But if we change that in the future, they would surely feel cheated.
In such case we'd better not mention the PoS profit we have, I think our main goal is to promote PoB, as it's the unique feature of SLM.


I'll publish the final version of announcement in few hours here to see whether I've been able to understand and consider all the suggestions. I think we need to send it to Freiexchange soon.

Update: I've got a very busy day so I was not able to work on the text. If someone has time to summarize what we've said so far that would be great, if not I'll try to put my hands on this during the next 24 hours.

Update 2019-12-13: I've edited our advertising announcement and here is the result I've got:
"Officially announced on May 17th, 2014 and fairly launched 4 days later Slimcoin is one of the few truly decentralized coins around, so whoever can join and contribute to its development and will be accepted as equal by the other contributors on the basis of his abilities and dedication. Its Proof-of-Burn (or virtual mining) algorithm, that by the recent estimates provides up to 30% of yearly SLM returns, grants to everybody the possibility to mine coins without any specific hardware and with a minimal computing power employed. It also contributes to a balanced power structure without an almighty elite and to a clean environment for the future generations. The economic model that is behind the Proof-of-Burn mechanism is not within the get-rich-fast logic, but rewards long-term involvement. So Slimcoin has a potential to shine should the traditional coin’s markets become saturated. Along with a unique mining mechanism, Slimcoin offers the ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm dcypt and PoS. The community is active on Discord and Bitcointalk."

Please let me know if it's ok or whether there is something to change.

@eddycurrent: I've taken into consideration your suggestion to change "mining" into "minting" in the text but I'm not able to establish where it would be more appropriate.
We have the following expression with the word "mining" in our text: "virtual mining", "the possibility to mine coins", "unique mining mechanism"  and "ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm dcypt".
The first 3 expressions are about PoB. Is PoB to be considered as minting instead of mining?
The last one is about CPU mining, so I wouldn't change it.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 11, 2019, 11:58:25 AM
Were the 39% measured in SLM? In this case, I would explicitly add that (e.g. "[...] that by the recent estimates provides up to 39% of yearly profit (measured in SLM)" [...]).

I think it's impossible to provide a profit figure in USD, BTC or other currencies, as we can't predict the price evolution. If SLM recovers from the dip caused by the recent large dump then it's likely that the profit for PoB or PoS minters buying SLM now could be much superior. But it can also the other way around.
Agreed, the 39% of profit is in SLM as we've calculated a few posts ago together with some member of community.

I'm not sure we should add that it's calculated in SLM as in crypto-world it's always calculated in the currency we are speaking about (and you explained very well why) and also because it's the right thing to avoid deceptive advertising, but in the same time the goal of advertising is to put forth the advantages of the advertised thing. If we make too much remarks, brackets and * than the reader will got distracted and the message won't pass.

However if we decide to add that specification I'm ready to edit the text. Just keep in mind that we've already put some demotivator in our text, so if we go on with demotivators at some point advertising may not make too much sense.  


I had a bit of a look and it looks pretty good but the second to last sentence caught my eye. I wonder whether this, "Along with the unique mining algorithm Slimcoin offers the ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm and PoS." Should instead read "Along with a unique mining mechanism, Slimcoin offers the ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm dcrypt, and PoS at 10% (might want to check this)" I thought it would be good to actually mention the algorithm's name to interest people  and I that using the word mechanism over algorithm would just make it a clearer distinction. Also, you may want to consider using the word minting over the word mining in some cases. Just some thoughts anyway. Feel free to ask for clarification if you need or to ignore if you think the original is more appropriate.
Thank you very much for your notes.

I'll edit my text in agreement to your thoughts and will be back with the new one, as many improvements were already added.

I'd like to ask: Do we have PoS at 10% or we need to check it?
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 11, 2019, 07:47:18 AM
Like it! I would introduce the following small changes:
"Its Proof-of-Burn (or virtual mining) algorithm, that by the recent estimates provides up to 39% of yearly profit, grants to everybody the possibility to mine coins without any specific hardware and with a minimal computing power employed. It also contributes to a balanced power structure without an almighty elite and to a clean environment for future generations"
(the "hassle" part is imo not that important as it's more or less the same that the previous sentence, so one could use the space to refer to another advantage)
"The economic model that is behind Proof-of-Burn mechanism is not within the get-rich-fast trend, but rewards long-term involvement. So Slimcoin has a potential to shine should the traditional coin’s markets become saturated."
(to specifically include the phrase "long-term involvement", or, if you like it more "long-term investment")

i think need to be careful with numbers
39 is too much especially price has decreased x2
30 is better and maximum

Thank you for your contribution, edited!  Smiley
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 11, 2019, 05:57:25 AM

Dont wait too long Wink, SLM is already waiting too long
Grin Agreed, but Rome wasn't built in a day either.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 10, 2019, 05:52:22 PM
Like it! I would introduce the following small changes:

"Its Proof-of-Burn (or virtual mining) algorithm, that by the recent estimates provides up to 39% of yearly profit, grants to everybody the possibility to mine coins without any specific hardware and with a minimal computing power employed. It also contributes to a balanced power structure without an almighty elite and to a clean environment for future generations"

(the "hassle" part is imo not that important as it's more or less the same that the previous sentence, so one could use the space to refer to another advantage)

"The economic model that is behind Proof-of-Burn mechanism is not within the get-rich-fast trend, but rewards long-term involvement. So Slimcoin has a potential to shine should the traditional coin’s markets become saturated."

(to specifically include the phrase "long-term involvement", or, if you like it more "long-term investment")

Thank you very much for your comments! Let's wait another day to see whether someone else has anything to add and then I'll send it to Freiexchange with you corrections.
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 10, 2019, 11:48:59 AM
I've wrote this draft of the advertising announcement:

"Officially announced on May 17th, 2014 and fairly launched 4 days later Slimcoin is one of the few truly decentralized coins around, so whoever can join and contribute to its development and will be accepted as equal by the other contributors on the basis of his abilities and dedication. Its Proof-of-Burn (or virtual mining) algorithm, that by the recent estimates provides up to 39% of yearly profit, grants to everybody the possibility to mine coins without any specific hardware and with a minimal computing power employed, saving in this way all the possible hassle to the miners and a clean environment for the future generations. The economic model that is behind Proof-of-Burn mechanism is not within the get-rich-fast trend, so Slimcoin has a potential to shine should the traditional coin’s markets become saturated. Along with the unique mining algorithm Slimcoin offers the ASICs resistant CPU mining algorithm and PoS. The community is active on Discord and Bitcointalk."

Any suggestion?
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 09, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
....the ability to mine on extremely low end hardware like small ARM boards. The second in particular is the main thing that gives SLM an advantage over any other coin.
Here you mean PoB algorithm, right?

Primarily, but also PoS to a small extent.

Yes, but I think we need to advertise PoB above all, because SLM is a pioneer in it and also because the ROI in PoB is much higher than in any PoS coin, including SLM itself.
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 09, 2019, 08:38:57 AM
....the ability to mine on extremely low end hardware like small ARM boards. The second in particular is the main thing that gives SLM an advantage over any other coin.
Here you mean PoB algorithm, right?
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 01, 2019, 07:52:38 PM
maybe someone who buyed top cpu to mine monero on new algo decided to mine SLM
i don’t see another explanation yet
 Grin Grin Grin
Grin
For me it's difficult to find an explanation as well, but in my experience the increase of difficulty is a good sign. It sometimes precedes the rebirth of coin.
But is it possibile that someone is trying to perform the 51% attack?
I think it's not because it was just a short spike, wich by the way was just a double of something pretty normal we have had from October 10, 2019 to November 3, 2019.

Important Update 2019-12-08: Freiexchange is offering to us the possibility to advertise SLM this week on their new newsletters channel as a featured coin. We need to provide an image and the text. What concepts would you like to put into?
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: December 01, 2019, 03:39:47 PM
IDK, could it be that people seeing some serious order available on Freiexchange and seeing the price of BTC going up want to make some money on SLM?

at first, here is no price up, rather, vice versa
second, how does this relate to sevenfold increase in difficulty ?

I agree that there is no increase of price, but there are orders, while before there were not, so before it had no sense mining either.
But of course 7 times more difficulty increase is epic.
194  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Help in Trading on: December 01, 2019, 12:07:29 AM
I think trading Fiat/BTC is really hard, but the good new is that the long term BTC trend has been always very positive.
For those who believe in BTC it may make more sense a long term hodling than one day struggle.
If not I'd advise you to learn trading on smaller coins where you have often time to think the things over because the big whales are not there.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why invest on a project because someone said they are good? on: December 01, 2019, 12:00:30 AM
There are many people curious about crypto out there.
The majority are attracted by the idea they have about crypto that one can make a lot of money with it quickly.
I always advise not to believe mine or everybody else's words about any coin and to make their own research, as usually who speaks about a coin is one who has invested into it, so his opinion is kind of biased.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: November 30, 2019, 11:54:28 PM
what is the reason for such difficulty rise ?



IDK, could it be that people seeing some serious order available on Freiexchange and seeing the price of BTC going up want to make some money on SLM?
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: November 28, 2019, 06:20:26 AM
I understand your point.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: November 27, 2019, 11:30:08 PM
I would be happy if someone were investing and risking his money for SLM along with me or competing with me on the market, but at the moment I'm almost alone.
Should I stop buying the price may go to 1 sat at sellers side.
So to help SLM recovering I don't have other choice than buying.

But even if the marketmaking is an important component for the coin's success,  it's not all the coin needs to find its niche.
We need advertising, we need discussion, we need ideas, we need people to work on the infrastructure.
But above all we need developers to implement things.
So I'm available to devolve a part of the market share I have to a serious developer that would work on SLM continually with consistent results, if we need him.
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Slimcoin | First Proof of Burn currency | Decentralized Web on: November 27, 2019, 05:36:49 PM
Top wallet now has almost 4M Slim, cool.
No, not cool. A gross distortion of the distribution. They won't even pay for a block explorer and I'm sick of my support effort being exploited, so I'll be taking a back seat on tech side until the distribution re-balances.

Cheers

Graham


I agree that the distribution is quite distorted right now.
The 4M Slim wallet is mine.
I bought 2M privately initially in order to have a reasonable share of the market (in order for me to begin working on SLM and to be involved in the right manner).
Then I published my orders on Freiexchange, the walls to support the price.
But my calculations were wrong, I was not aware people was ready to sell SLM in that quantities.
I'll go on buying everything available till there are no people ready to sell at this prices left thus after that should we be able to create a minimal interest to buy SLM, the price should begin climbing slowly up.
At that point I'll sell the majority of my funds without dumping and, on the opposite, supporting the price so the distribution should become more resonably balanced.
I'm also ready to provide a part of my funds (SLMs) for faucets and bounties should we have someone available to dedicate himself to that part of work.
I'm not staking nor burning SLMs in order to let people with smaller quantities to make profits and to let other people in and to have profits.
I'm sending my funds on the same address, as I don't have anything to hide and I'd like this community to have as much transparency as possible. Everybody can see what I'm doing. But I'm also worried about possible risks of centralization.
And yes I paid the extention of blockexplorer and am going to do it in the future till I'll have funds to do so.
I'm also available to pay advertising for SLM, should the conditions and results be favourable.
So please Graham don't go away. Without you this project can't survive, I guess.
200  Local / Идеи / Re: подарок на День рождения on: November 25, 2019, 06:44:20 PM
Вообще можно подарить бумажный кошелек, я думаю он для этого и был придуман, там все инструкции есть.

Однажды я хотел подарить другу мастернод и спросил его, было бы ему приятно получить такой подарок, на что получил положительный ответ. Но потом я все-таки решил не дарить и правильно сделал, посколку вскоре эта монетка пошла вниз и представляю как был бы разочарован был бы мой друг.

Если бы все дарили своим друзьям Биткоин на День Рождения у него был бы шанс. А так мы проморгали одно очень значимое событие, которое произошло в 2017 году - люди перестали рассказывать знакомым о биткоине. Исчез эффект сарафанного радио. А это было очень важным. Поэтому возродить эту практику было бы здорово!

Согласен. Я, к примеру, не расказываю, потому что вокруг меня все о битке уже все знают. И еще потому, что те, которым я рассказывал в прошлом, а они не верили в потенциал, теперь думают, что я сказачно богат, а я на самом деле все потерял за эти годы практически  Cheesy

Если так рассказывать, как вы в конце, то популярности это точно не прибавит)))

Это конечно так, но все-таки я критикую себя. Если бы я по-настоящему верил в биток все эти годы, а не корчил из себя трейдера, ни фига в трейдинге не понимая, то сейчас бы мог спокойно отдыхать.
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