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On Thursday 9th August at 14:28 (BST, so thats 13.28 GMT) I emptied one of
my wallets with the intention of sending to my main client.
I tried to send the entire wallet but it said a transaction fee of 0.006 BTC
was needed, (if I recall) so I subtracted this and sent 35.85448725 BTC.
Apparently successfully.
But here's the thing. The transaction never arrived!
And in the sending client, its still showing as status '?'
even though the client is fully up to date with downloading
the blockchain. Other transactions (credits) have come in in the
sending client more recently with no problems.
If I query Blockexplorer on the address it waits a long time and then says
ERROR: unknown (Most likely my bitcoind stopped working or this page is too large/complex.)
The receiving client does show the address as one of its own
addresses, but no transactions from here .
Does anyone know what happened? Should I worry? How can I find out ?
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One of the things that has been discussed from time to time is could a small country adopt bitcoin as legal tender?
My feeling is that if I was a small country thinking of doing this I would contract bitcoin experts to design me a system pretty much identical to bitcoin, but with taxation built in.
In the current world governments need taxation, however much citizens may individually dislike it.
The great gain would be it could be automated, anonymous and fast! Wow, consider that anonymous tax. In a land where the government may not be as nice as ours, (like they only rarely kill people!) that could be a big win!
A developing country would of course need physical coins too as not everyone has a computer. (I'm sure casacaus could supply these!) So the "cash" economy would still avoid taxation. But perhaps there could be a probabalistic taxation mechanismn built even into this. (Like the tax is paid on a coin when redeemed, and depends on the age of the coin.)
Is there any way that bitcoin as it is could be used to enable anonymous and un-avoidable taxation I wonder? Or would a newly designed currency as postulated above actually be needed?
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Cool beans. I like this!
I had a few issues:
1) I coppied the address to pay and then, being a happless clicker, clicked off to another page.
I made my payment but nothing happened. :-(
2) I paid another address, or tried to but my bitcoin client would not accept it. Its invalid. (14A7ULdCNBWUAgoS6yaEYm9LxT4fRxP5W)
Firefox does show these addresses a bit outside of the box, maybe their is a character missing.
Actually I have been working on a similar site for a while. But mine has no content (well none worth anything) and no flashy graphics, although it does allow upload.
It would be rude to post here, but launch perhaps in a few days...
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Just wanted to say that I ordered some of these - most enjoyable, and will probably re-order when I have finished my current supply. Shipping to the Uk is a bit slow, but of course that is not the OP's fault, they arrived without any problem or extra charge.
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I tried this and won the princely sum of a milli bitcoin (or something). But 12 hours later it still hasnt arrived.
How long does it normally take?
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I wondered this too. I was looking at it from the point of view of interesting potential merchants, persuading them to quote BTC prices so I wanted a realistic idea of what they would get. I picked two sums of money, £500, and £5000 and lined up the current orders totalling that amount on Intersango. Then do the calculation. The calculation still runs at hourly intervals and can be seen here: http://jetmark.co.uk/bitcoin/rate.phpPerhaps if I was doing this again, I might take both ask and bid prices into account, but I have found it useful over a perod of months to see what I could actually get for £500 of bitcoins if I did the exchange right now. |
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The minimum (I have just discovered) is 1 penny. So could 2 or 3 people send me a penny?
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Many will have read of the new service from Barclays (In the Uk) where money can be sent from a Barclays bank account to any other registered bank account using only a mobile phone number and a smart phone app, pretty much instantly.
I have registered and would like to try this, but the only other person I know who has registered cant seem to make it work. Maybe actually it doesnt work until next month.
Is there anyone who has a pingit account who would send me the smallest transaction amount possible to Oh seven nine four 1823465 ?
(Thats a Uk mobile phone number.)
If the smallest transaction is trivial (like a penny) thats fine, if its not (like £5) I will refund you in bitcoins. I cannot send money using pingit as I dont have a Barclays account, so its a one-way transaction. If you can add a message into it please try to add in your bit coin address if there is room. I want to see the format of the message that occurs in my bank account.
Just for safety, please PM me as well with your bitcoin address.
By the way, its unlikely that the above phone will be switched on most of the time, its not my main phone number, but this is not needed for pingit to work. So please do NOT text or phone this number!!
Oh (I should be so lucky!) please no Nigerians 419 people sending me fifteen million pounds and saying I can keep the change!! If you send me more than £15 you have (possibly) lost it!
This is me trying to find out in a basic way something about new technology that I might then apply to bitcoins, nothing more.
Dont trust me ? Then dont do it!
And Thanks!
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That seemed to work with no problems. Thanks guys!
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Thanks! I am in the process of trying what psy suggested, and blocks are being downloaded. As noted, its a slow process!!
I'll report what happened.
I am thinking it was perhaps a simple file corruption problem caused by attempting to run an old version of bitcoind.
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Still experiancing this.
What else could I try? Delete some files in ~/.bitcoin apart from wallet.dat. All files except wallet.dat?
I would really like to keep my address history/list
Remove all files relating to blockchain download and reload it. How do I do that?
Does anyone have any suggestions ?
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My Client, 0.5.2 Beta, stopped downloading blocks 3 days ago, and has not moved since. (Prior to that it was working well. ) Hovering over the spinner says Downloaded 169373 of 169822 blocks of transaction history, Last received block was generated 3 days ago. Hovering over the wi-fi type icon says 15 Active connections. What I have tried: 1) Restart of bitcoin, doing File -> Quit. 2) Restart of computer, running Ubuntu 10.04. 3) -rescan 4) -debug , reveals this type of things in the debug file: <pre> AddAddress(131.104.40.171:8333) accepted connection 109.255.169.120:55812 Added time data, samples 18, offset +0 (+0 minutes) version message: version 32300, blocks=169823 askfor tx 1892ec5ba4076cb7afb6 0 sending getdata: tx 1892ec5ba4076cb7afb6 ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 1892ec5ba4 mapTransactions prev not found 3088d5cb26 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 1892ec5ba4 storing orphan tx 1892ec5ba4 askfor tx 206524bd7c166e940d1f 0 sending getdata: tx 206524bd7c166e940d1f askfor tx 206524bd7c166e940d1f 1330996863000000 ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 206524bd7c mapTransactions prev not found 733d22d4fc ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 206524bd7c storing orphan tx 206524bd7c askfor tx d9d9a8dc158d01ce0db1 0 sending getdata: tx d9d9a8dc158d01ce0db1 ERROR: ConnectInputs() : d9d9a8dc15 mapTransactions prev not found 4b81a0e789 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed d9d9a8dc15 storing orphan tx d9d9a8dc15 </pre> Does anyone have any clue what is going on ? Or advice on how to find out. |
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It seems to me something odd and unusual is happening today. Is anyone else seeing this ?
My client, not run for a couple of days, version 0.5.2-beta has taken all day and not caught up. Normally it catches up very fast. It had 43 conections to other clients. I restarted, and nothing has improved. It has 14 connections.
I stress again, this is really unusual for me. Anyone else see anything strange?
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Flawed perceptions aside, I do realise I made a simple mistake in how much power I had directed to which pools and when.
My perceptions would have been correct if I had not made this basic mistake!!
I'd like to withdraw what I said.
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I am sorry but I also feel that p2pool is not producing the returns of other pools. I agree with the original poster, and my subjective impression (I have not done an analysis), is that its about half what it should be. Thats a lot.
Now perhaps my miner is set up wrong. Seems unlikely, but possible. Perhaps there is some dimension to this as yet unseen.
I dont buy all these discussions of good and bad luck - its possible to say exactly what the chance of getting a particular payment is given the actual variance of the pool at that time, which can be integrated over the period of test. Knowing this and the shape of the probablity distribution involved, you can calculate all this stuff. Well someone more able than I could!! And if it was half what it ought to be due to fraud or poor performance, then you can be sure this would show very clearly after only a small number of days. P2pool should be more amenable than any pool to analysis.
Could someone do this analysis please?
Its got to the stage where I am going to switch back to another pool because its just not as profitable, or so I perceive.
Edit: I am sorry, I was mistaken about what machines I had pointing to what pools and when.
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Ok, well I solved it, and the solution is not at all what I expected, in fact I was looking in completely the wrong direction.
In the end I turned of the electric supply to the entire house.
Imagine my surprise when the light was still on!!! The switch made no difference, as before.
Now I finally understood. The light must be one that contains a backup battery for fire escape purposes, but dont ask me why that is installed in my outhouse!!
So gingerly did I cut into the wire, with scalpel and gloved hands!! But there was no sign of any live wires.
Once my new switch was connected and the electricity turned on again, all worked exactly as expected!!
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Ok, this is really off topic, but its baffling me!.
I have an out building (yes, it houses the bitcoin mine but thats not at all the point.)
I wanted to move the light switch, the building is like a corridor, and I wanted to move the switch to the door instead of having it in the middle where it is now and where I suspect the previous owner of the house installed it.
To actually make the connection of my new wired switch I wanted to switch of the electricity.
I could not find the breaker to switch it off. Eventually, I switched of most of the breakers in the house. I went to check. The light is on! Worse, the switch no longer works. Its on sort of like half-brightness. Its a small flourscent tube.
So turning most of the breakers in the hose off, causes the light to come on half-brightness, and the switch to not work. How could that be?
Turning the breakers back on restored normal operation with the switch working as normal.
Can anyone explain a possible fault scenario? I mean I suspect the wiring was done wrong, something like the live is taken to the neutral and when switched off it runs through other connected loads in the house backwards as it were, but I cannot in my own mind imagine a scenario that works like this.
Help please!!
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No, its not (not simple, that is.) . And doing this type of thing there are in fact many traps for the unwary. This is why it actually could be more practical (though I HATE to say it) for him to take the disk out and mail it to someone. Its very important though that any normal activity on the computer is stopped right now, and it should be left in a corner switched off until this disk image has been made. A half-competant local computer shop could also probably do this, allowing him to use the computer *and* mail it off to someone. He could also take them the disk, since removing it is a purely mechanical thing.
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I am also interested to know this.
If I do aticonfig -lsa I get something like this for my two 6990's
* 0. 0f:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 6990
1. 0e:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 6990
2. 07:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 6990
3. 06:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 6990
Now I have a theory that 0f means nearest to the motherboard, and other numbers decreasing away.
I also have a theory that the device numbers may depend on random factors, since I once say a device 2 (the last device)
in the middle of 3 cards. But its not a good theory. Here is another machine:
aticonfig -lsa
* 0. 0a:00.0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
1. 05:00.0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
2. 04:00.0 ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
* - Default adapter
aticonfig --adapter=all --odgt
Adapter 0 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Sensor 0: Temperature - 66.50 C
Adapter 1 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Sensor 0: Temperature - 71.50 C
Adapter 2 - ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
Sensor 0: Temperature - 96.00 C
Now I know the middle card has a broken fan. So really doesnt figure!! That has to be the hot one, surely?
Anyone offer suggestions?
Another thing I tried is switching the fans high or low. This can be done using an aticonfig command and setting the DISPLAY variable.
So, more questions than answers I am afraid?
Or could it be that it depends on motherboard wiring and there is a correlation between the small number in aticonfig --lsa and the position, just not necessiarily linear?
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