That is indeed very strange. I have a eye on all the wallets and I did not understand that move at all. All I can guess is that it was some kind of automatic payment, because of course there is now money paid out that was falsely created by the bug. Also 450 BTC is not a tiny sum of money... To be exact at that time it was 45.000$. Fucking bad move, simon. Fucking bad move. |
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An awesome watch. I'd buy it if it is still for sale in a couple of months.
Hehe  Nice! Best of luck.  Thanks! |
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Hallo,
ich würde gerne einen Avalon Batch 2 kaufen. Preis den ich geben würde ist 15k. Bar, sofort, ohne Probleme!
Preorder so wie In Hand (sobald er da ist). Pre Order würde ich gerne einen Vertrag aufsetzen wo das Geld beim Anwalt als Escrow hinterlegt wird.
Meldet euch!
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As I said above, that week will go by without any withdrawals. Then there will be a 3 month timeout and Hausdorf will go broke. Then there will be no lawyer anymore and we will have lost our money. Only way for him to solve this further is sell the bitcoins that we have deposited at Bitcoin 24. |
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As a german involved into this with about 30.000€ in withdrawal I have bad news for everyone.
First off, I am running a company since 4 years. We have had similar problems in the first, due to a high figure cashflow (not near the several million mark as BTC24, but close). The problem is not only criminal money, but also the taxes that not have been paid.
Yes, he has a company in UK. Yes, he said he pays taxes. But if you receive a single transaction above 10.000€ the BaFin (the bank supverision) will investigate and eventually involve the german tax authorities. This is where the problem really starts. When the german tax authorities start to investigate, they dont respect any customer rights.
Also, it seems like the BaFin requested the accounts to be closed. Or even the tax authorities, Hausdorf has not been very open about that. I dont think he does not want to be transparent with this, but that he simply has no clue. I have discussed this with our tax advisor and he told me some cruel storys.
For example has there been a Voucher Exchange based in UK operating in germany which has been closed without the funds ever being released again. The reason is simple:
You are laundering money. Yes, your money would be released if you could proof the tax authorities or the BaFin wrong. But the problem is: You simply cant.
To proof that you are not laundering money you need to provide personal details with proof for EVERY transaction on your bank account AND online transactions.
This is where the problem starts: How does Hausdorf proof that he is not cashing himself thousands of bitcoins out to different addresses? Right, he cant.
I do not believe in anything he says except the part with his bank accounts. And also there may be a lawyer involved, but he cant change anything.
This being said, I am very angry. I have only read all that scary stuff from him a few days ago.
He is being reckless with a lot of money and I hope he will rod in jail for that stupid shit he did. He as ZERO CLUE of what he has gotten into. For example did he post on reddit something about sueing german government for a compensation payment and to release a bonus to all users when that is over. NOT GONNA HAPPEN, DOUCHEBAG.
Yea, I'm angry that I lost 30k, still I am a stupid shit for not investigating before I deposited money.
Worst thing is: I am going to be one of the last ones to receive money. Because he is too stupid to increase daily transfer limit (for me its only a call to increase it to 500k or whatever, did it several times without problems, apparently he is not able to pick up the phone) he would take 3 days to transfer my money alone.
You dont have to be a genius that he will transfer all small payments first to increase good feedback.
If I ever see my money again I will be a happy man, but right now I am depressed.
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Hello, I am offering a Omega Seamaster 300M including Original Box & Papers. Ref No 22218000 The watch is in a very good condition and has only been worn a few times. The watch bracelet has one extra piece due to a bigger than normal wrist. This can be removed by me or you, which will cost about 50$. The price is:  Watch was new at 1.7k€, so you get a discount of about 600€ or 800$. Prices are negotiable. I am also willing to trade for gold, macbook or another watch. Here are some pictures: http://bild5.de/249232647.jpghttp://bild5.de/252782963.jpghttp://bild5.de/119375551.jpgdifferent hoster http://imgur.com/RNzrKAU,rgxo6Be,Ny3MSu3I agree to do escrow. No bullshitting, just buying. I pay delivery. |
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Well, you can not underestimate the problems they might encounter. Some machines may need to be fixed due to problems.
500 Machines, that is a lot. Lets imagine they are producing since 30 days, thats about 17 per day. Or they got their new SMT ready, then maybe a few days less. Doesnt reduce the time to check the machines for errors! Thats all a very time expensive thing to do.
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In the german board 3 avalons in hand sold for 55k. Thats about 70k$ if im not mistaken.
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The last posting from your IP was less than 19 seconds ago. Please try again later. Ich wäre noch drüber gegangen  GZ |
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Ein dem Schein nach seriöser Bieter hat mir per pm eine höhere Summe geschickt, ich weiß aber nicht, ob er vorhat im Thread mitzubieten, er hat seither nicht mehr geantwortet.
Ich gebe die Dinger aber dem höchstbietenden im Thread, um dem ganzen wenigstens ein einigermaßen akzeptables Ende zu geben.
Ich Nachhinein bin ich mir sicher, wenn ich die Teile eine Woche angeboten hätte und Gebote nur per pm, hätte ich einen Preis an die 100k erzielt.
Wir bringen das aber jetzt hier bis 14Uhr zu Ende.
Du weißt ja nicht, wie weit ich gehe... Soll er hier mitbieten! dann sag uns doch bitte wie weit du mitgehst  |
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Ein dem Schein nach seriöser Bieter hat mir per pm eine höhere Summe geschickt, ich weiß aber nicht, ob er vorhat im Thread mitzubieten, er hat seither nicht mehr geantwortet.
Ich gebe die Dinger aber dem höchstbietenden im Thread, um dem ganzen wenigstens ein einigermaßen akzeptables Ende zu geben.
Ich Nachhinein bin ich mir sicher, wenn ich die Teile eine Woche angeboten hätte und Gebote nur per pm, hätte ich einen Preis an die 100k erzielt.
Wir bringen das aber jetzt hier bis 14Uhr zu Ende.
Du weißt ja nicht, wie weit ich gehe... Soll er hier mitbieten! |
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Wir sollten mal festhalten dass die 40k von mir HEUTE noch bezahlt werden können. Ich denke dass das für hans1224 wichtig ist. Ich kann auch belegen, dass ich das Geld habe.
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Simon knew about this bug since at least 11 days, since then there is a youtube video telling about it. Also several user messaged him that problem. He didnt solve it, in fact, it got worse. Me and a friend got a high 5 figure sum locked in withdrawal right now. I think the actions Beutelschneider takes are good and just take care of our funds.
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