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1801  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 27, 2016, 11:19:17 AM
The best time to buy bitcoins is at the lowest price of the bitcoin off course because when you buy them at the lowest price the bitcoin will only rise after that you know so you only making profit with it otherwise dont buy them trade them.

of course the best time to buy it if the lowest price
but we dont know it at the lowest price or not, I think that when I have money I want to buy and hold it for the longterm.
And I think we need to have a lot of patience when buying and selling of bitcoin we should always follow the basic principle which is to buy low and sell high and we can only do that if we have the right patience and the right timing.
1802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 27, 2016, 11:16:48 AM
hello everyone.
i want to know what do you think about gambling bitcoin.. Does Beneficial or more losses?
Share your story here guys!  Grin Grin Grin

I don't have a story to tell about gambling but gambling is not wrong all the time. Some people gamble to try their chances of winning.
That's a good and honest explanation, gambling is never wrong as it is only us that is wrong, gambling does not force us to risk our money but it was just present to attract us to enjoy on our vacant time to get the best entertainment, if we do not do it right then that's our fault.
1803  Economy / Services / Re: Bitpal NOW HIRING ( Undated post ) on: September 26, 2016, 11:09:53 AM
I thought this thread is not real, thank you for the update, I am looking forward that I will be accepted in the hiring, I will do my best to do the job so please give me a try.
1804  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: September 26, 2016, 09:39:05 AM
Future of Bitcoin Economics depends on mass adoption of Bitcoin. No body can predict accurately the true future of Bitcoin.

Yah! No one can predict its future but as long as the people are using it no one can't stop its value.

That's what I see also, I am optimistic that bitcoin will be a big success in the future and will be widely use by people who loves to do online transaction especially the merchants, I cannot ascertain the future but I am doing my best to support bitcoin to succeed.
1805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: September 26, 2016, 09:36:19 AM
This is it, Kevin Garnet now hanging his jersey after 21 season. The Big Ticket is one of the loyal players I have seen in the league because he just left his first team Minnesota Timberwolves after decades due to frustration about what is happening on this team. He carry Timberwolves many times and even bring this team in the Western Conference finals which is unusual.

Kevin Garnett Says 'Farewell' After 21 Seasons In The Nba




Ron Artest should be given enough minutes to make the game entertaining, I like the way he plays because he is so physical and that makes his teammates to be inspired and will play as hard as they can, they have a lot to prove this season because they cannot make excuses anymore that Kobe just ruin the game.

Yeah when we talk about Ron Artest it's really a physical one and even in Metta World Peace still he's physical. Tongue

i just read the news and we have now 3 big players out
well it time that new kids show what they can do and i hope that they will do good
KG's time is done, he need to enjoy his income for being a successful basketball athlete, maybe its time to be a commentator now if he is good in talking in front of the camera, that's how great does after the retirement I guess, I see shaq as a good commentator and a host as well.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 26, 2016, 09:32:30 AM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?

Of course that most of gamblers plays for money, and they are not "smart" as often they do very dumb mistakes like betting all in and such, so they lose everything
well yeah, i used to play only for profit too and it was a bad decision to make because i have lost money
That's what you get for playing gambling the other way, it should only be for the purpose of having fun and never dream of making money in gambling because the is hardest job in the world and only few had succeed, maybe you need to learn from your mistakes and play for fun.
1807  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: September 26, 2016, 09:29:18 AM
The fact here is you bitcoin can't disappear the paper money we are using this since bitcoin is not a part of community we all using paper since we born on earth and we still using it to buy bitcoin it has a bitcoin potenial to grow more our community and economics soon paper money is very important
papermoney is going to go down for sure, i think that the price of the bitcoin is going to grow and dollar will be replaced
LOL!, you are kidding right, that would not happen dude, bitcoin is just an alternative currency without blessing of the law, this is a risky asset but useful, and although it will become popular, it cannot replace bitcoin though.
1808  Economy / Services / Re: BitDouble is looking for moderators on: September 26, 2016, 09:26:23 AM
I want to be a moderator, I have no experience yet but I will try my best to do the job. Anyway, I am online like 10 hours a day because I am working in a company and my internet is always active and I guess I can do the job while at work.

Please let me know if I have a chance, I do not mind if it is a bounty at the end of the month.
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 26, 2016, 09:18:58 AM
Gambling is wrong for those who play this not mature enough. Gambling is not wrong for me, the person who plays gambling will always make if a gambling will be good for them or not.

Yeah gambling is just becoming wrong if the person is not applying the gambling etiquette as he plays. Because even gambling has its own etiquette. And for me, to make gambling to become not wrong you need to make some priorities first and don't forget the most important ones before you are going to gamble so that you not going to make gambling wrong.
I know most of the gamblers will blame gambling for their failure but I would say that is not fair, gambling is just a game and the decision is only with the person who gambles, so if he will not do it well, then he will suffer the consequences.
1810  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: September 26, 2016, 09:17:20 AM
I hold most of my coins. I believe the price of the bitcoin will rise in the long term. But I also spend some of the coins.
If you hold your coins make sure that you can make profit every time the price of bitcoin rise but you will wait more months before that happens for sure there are lots of ways to earn money monthly or weekly in signature campaign after that you can spend your bitcoin with bills or goods.

Trading is better than just holding, holding is obviously safer somehow because they are just kept safe in a wallet and if the price grows they are growing with that, but that process is quite slow because sometimes the price gets stable for many days as it was recently, and in that case you can still earn profits by trading.
who says holding are safer?
have you ever imagine buying bitcoin at price $800 and now stucked at $600?
already holding for over 3 months and lost $20,000 already in current position?
always better to spend your bitcoin regularly and invest on reasonable amunt only.

Exactly holding is not safer at all, we hold them hoping that price will go higher but if falls down dramatically then you cannot afford to sell them till the point you reach to break even.

Holding is just like gambling and as well as trading it is only for people that are risk taker and does have a lot of bitcoins to their wallets. It is just going to be applicable if you are not an active spender of bitcoin. But if you are just depending on your bitcoins and you are using it for your daily life it is better if you are not going to hold.

Yes its better to spend them instead of simply holding them as if price goes down in future then it won't be profitable for you to spend them and if any emergency comes then you need to sell them even at lower price.
Just spend what you really need and hold the remaining amount, you know what you will only realize that in the future that holding will give benefits and if you are holding you might be surprise that you are getting a good amount of profit.
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 26, 2016, 09:14:36 AM

i am agree with this, so we don't regret if we lose our money, beside that we only spend small amount to lose but if we win, we only win small amount too, its fair enough i think.

and there is still no safe methods to gamble while we on the games, we can only hope that our luck is work when we gambling and make sure we only spend money that we can spend, don't spend too much than we have in our pocket.
True, because in our life money is really important, because without money we cannot live safely and peacefully so we need to value it. For me, if we have good job or decent job don't use all of your income just to play gambling. You are working because of your family and not to play gambling.

Yeah that is true. Although there are people who say that money is not everything, but without money we can't do everyday activities. We can do without money, but that's just the nature of religious activities or for the needs of the world we must need the money
Yes the truth in this world is money is really important in every person that in this world, we cannot live without money, so that we need to value our money the most. If we play gambling always just use money that we can afford to lose.

Money is not affordable to loose at all.
once you said money is very valuable and very important. ant should be safe. and then you said gamble what you can afford to loose.
I don't think money is something to loose for these none sense things.. I don't afford a single penny to risk in gambling.
You do not get the point dude, when we say the amount that we can afford to lose, that means that money is purely for entertainment only and we are not expecting hard to get back that money with a profit, as long as we are happy we will consider our loses as a pay for the entertainment we get.
1812  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 26, 2016, 03:36:02 AM
I think you should get a list of the things where you will spend your money, and try to avoid wasting it on unnecessary expenses.
therefore I strongly recommend for all people to have a note to the financial manage them. they should have a black list to something they should not buy. and of course they have to write down the maximum limits spending money they could each day. it will be very important

If you can write it down the better because you will be able to check and follow what is written, actually it is not hard to manage you money if you have the will to do it, we need to have our goal and do it without hesitation, the temptation is the main hindrance to success so we need to beat it.
1813  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: September 26, 2016, 03:27:48 AM
No I do not spend any bitcoins these days because of the fact that there are no real life stores accepting the bitcoin right now.
I think that if this will happen in the future I will spend them in real life.
I guess you are living in a remote forest, because we do hear about bitcoin payment acceptances even in under developed countries too, by our forum member or through some start-up for exchanging your bitcoin so that you will be able to shop in your local store.
you can exchange it to to your currency so by doing that you are using it already in a daily basis and you are able to help the system.
but if you have internet i guess you can find something interesting that you can use btc for payment.
There a few place in my country that accepting bitcoin. But the place is very very far away form my house. So I agree with you, we can spend bitcoin by change bitcoin to our local currency first. Although it is gonna be better if there are bitcoin banks to convert bitcoin into fiat.
Yes for this time, there is not many choice to spend coin on real life except the bitcoins be exchanged to fiat money, because there are not many stores who accept bitcoin as payment method on real life.
Exactly, that's why when I earn online I automatically convert my money in fiat because I have needs in real life that I need to buy, but if given a chance to spend my bitcoins online then I would gladly do it, I will be looking forward for the future to make that happen.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 26, 2016, 03:20:28 AM
Of course that  they lose as gambling site creators wants to earn lots of profit from gamblers,  so every gambler can't always win, creators would earn nothing then
yeah, gambling website creators just want people to lose because in this way they make money

That is the destination of all the gamblers if they are not going to realize that the house edge is making a living from their pockets then won't know it.

And if they are not satisfied from the winnings that they are getting each day in gambling, then they are going to keep on gambling.

But without proper control that is going to lead them to lose.
well addiction itself makes them keep to going back either win or lose they will still playing the only thing that's needed to control is the time span that they played because for sure greediness always in their mind so playing a long time makes the house wins against them and if they will be out of luck for sure they dont have it in the long game.
You cannot argue anymore with addicted people because only gambling is in their minds, they cannot have a good day if they cannot gamble, its like that they fell in love with gambling and that is not good since we know for the fact that every gamblers loses in the long run.
1815  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: September 26, 2016, 03:09:50 AM
Selling everything would not be my idea because of the fact that its not really smart to do with these nice prices.
Its better too wait on a higher amount if you are asking me.
I think it would be a good idea if you sell all of your bitcoin when pump prices were or are at the top, and then you can wait for prices to go back down and buy it again
But, the big problem must be we will not know when the bitcoin price will hit peak levels, without knowing that trying to sell to make good profit must lead to huge losses. Usually selling everything is so dangerous, because we need to sell similar to how we bought. Selling slowly will safeguard from future good price levels.

Sell a part of them if its allowing you to make profits and keep rest for the future as we don't know what price it will hold in future and if price goes higher then we can sell remaining coins at that time.

For me if you believe that the price of bitcoin is going to be better in the next few months or years then it is better if you are not going to sell. But if you are just depending on your money with bitcoins and you really need to sell it then that is going to fine. As long as you are able to use your profit in bitcoins in more meaningful way.

If nothing is going to happen like civil unrest soon, then it's most likely for Bitcoin to rise next year because the halving took place this one. It's the second time this happens, and the first time it did... The price went up to an amazing amount: $10 to $1.3k.

I am hoping that the price of bitcoin is going to reach that price in the future. So as of now, I am not going to sell all the bitcoins and alt coins that I have. I am going to keep calm and going to be patiently waiting for the price to get into $800-$1,300 and if that happens then that is the right time to sell all my bitcoins.
That's everyone's dream here to see a great price in the future so we can sell our bitcoin for a profit, that will not happen overtime so we need to have a bigger patience of holding our bitcoins and continue saving it, we should believe that bitcoin is a strong currency who shall succeed.
1816  Economy / Economics / Re: I'm not gonna sell any coin. on: September 26, 2016, 03:04:39 AM
I am saving it now as I don't  feel that it is the right time to sell, at current  price is not too high, in my opinion, but If I try  to have more patience I  can expect better profits.
I agree also hold some of my bitcoin in the wallet, I think that the price of bitcoin in a few weeks will exceed the price at today, so I still have confidence that I will continue to hold

of course the price of the bitcoin is going to become really huge and i think that it will make me some big profit

Most of the people are waiting for the price increase in the future because we are going to get satisfied if that is going to happen and we know that it is going to happen in the future. So if we are just going to keep on believing in bitcoins and going to hold a lot of it we are going to nail the profit in the future without doing hard efforts.

I concur, made a big mistake of selling all my bitcoins in 2014 to a low of $180 it was the time when the price keep on crashing.
How bad it is, you could have make more money now when you hold longer, we have to learn our lessons in the past and do not be easily tempted to sell your bitcoins when the price is falling, just strengthen your trust for the future of bitcoin.
1817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 25, 2016, 02:18:39 AM
Do you think that people hate bitcoins why?
Are you hate bitcoins or like it.........
But my answer is I LIKE BITCOIN.

Bitcoin haters for me is only those people who are not a part of the bitcoin community, But if you are asking a hater here in this forum, the only thing I could say is that was totally ridiculous and insane. Because I signed/joined here for "Trust" and curiosity of mine.
How can they hate if they will not know bitcoin, I think once you will use bitcoin you are already part of the community because you have adopted already on that situation, you cannot really blame some of them if they do not have an open mind to understand the real core of bitcoin.

If we are already using bitcoin then we love bitcoin for sure because  we already  know its uses and benefits and  maybe some  people  would hate it if   they are being scammed by someone or lost all their bitcoin because of hyips or ponzis  thats the time   they would hate bitcoin but its their  fault at all. There nothing to be hated about  bitcoin at all.
Well under that situation it is really hard to convince this people to believe in bitcoin again, it is just unfortunate that they fall victims of the scam HYIP and ponzi that uses bitcoin as their means of transaction, I think they are not being fair with bitcoin hating a coin that does not do anything wrong to them.
1818  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: September 25, 2016, 02:12:04 AM
I think the best way to manage money is to allot only a limited amount of money for foods, transportation, clothing, etc. every month and try your best to save more money. Plenty of people are having problems regarding their debts. As much as you can, avoid having a debt. You'll lost a lot of money because of the interest and it will grow and grow until your salary isn't enough to pay them anymore.
not simple as that, daily necessities can't be avoided that the only way to be able to save money is how you can earn more than your expenses so it would be easy to store excess rather than having to reduce costs of life.
When there is a demand, there will be a solution. When we are having more expenses for life's need, you will find out more ways to generate more income. Still, having budget on salary will save any possible hassles and it doesn't mean we need not to stick with old lifestyle due to limited budget.

Manage funds properly still finding out ways to generate more funds for better life.
The problem how to generate more funds. this is the problem if you want to use your savings as your capital to start business online that can generate as your passive income or increase your income its not a problem its hard to start a business online even you are in blogging that you didnt know if you will success in the future..
That's the reality when you are engaged in business regardless of your venture there is always a negative and positive output and if we can solve the problem we will have a positive output which is to grow our investment, therefore if you feel you have the skills then it is just right to risk you capital or savings and invest in your self.

As just as expected  on investments we cant always  experience  positive outcomes since there are really times  that we  suffer from negative  and we cant really avoid that and as  you said if we could  handle that situation and make it positive then you are capable enough on a certain investment ,
Therefore we should be ready all the time, be ready to accept the outcome of our investment, we need to understand that investment is risky and there are two possible that might happen, it is either we lose or win, as a responsible investor we should only put an amount that we can afford to lose.

Agree! Win or Lose accept it! You invest that amount of money then you should think that it will not come back again! haha Dont think about the profit after that! Really very risky to invest but if you are into it then you should understand that you will lose some of it and accept it and learn something through it Cheesy
The mindset of every investor should only not be focus on the profit, instead we should also know how to calculate the risk and if the result on our calculated risk favors us then that should be the time to conclude and invest.
1819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: September 25, 2016, 02:07:41 AM
I see there is so many people trying hard to stop gambling their money because they've losing so much
If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!
Yes i am trying hard also i cant stop my self if im making profit in gambling website but it is okay for me that im lose because before that happens i always save money or withdraw my profit and save money then play again thats it
the same for me, if i start winning money then i cannot stop playing there as i want to make more and more profit

Dont be greedy mate, please control yourself, be a smart player.
if  you already get a profit, you know when time to stop.
Do not think of stopping only when you win but the most crucial decision here is when are you going to stop when you are losing, that is the major problem of some of the gamblers because they cannot control themselves and they would not stop losing big.
1820  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 25, 2016, 02:04:19 AM
You can earn a lot with gambling and I think that the earnings from gambling can go as high as the moon but this rule is also applying for losings.
Its for both rules and I think that gambling is also like this.
thats true, but you have to be very lucky right now, i think it is better not to gamble your money not to lose it

Luck is indeed the beginning of us benefit, without luck all gambling we do will definitely get a loss. Because all of that is a very good thing, but it's all not going we can get (the luck) if indeed we do not have a strategy or technique that is good for us to do, then there will be no luck we get

Luck is something you have absolutely zero control over, and even something that you can't see, many players get blinded by win streaks and keep gambling until they get broke. Gamblers should always be cold blooded and think rational if they want to at least minimize their loses.
You are definitely true, we should have the calmness in gambling so we could think right and makes a good decision in the session. We might lose but only up to the manageable amount of money and it should go as well with our winning, do not get greedy when you win.
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