The short-term business model would be an E-Wallet for businesses (like PayPal). The medium/long-term business plan would be to get acquired by PayPal when PayPal decided they need to support bitcoin. If it's a "business model", then you are expecting some profit, but how can you compete with mtgox's merchanting if he already offers 0% fee ? |
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It is the only way you will truly know if everyone is mining honestly.
I have other ways to check this; I'm prepared since i expected someone to implement Raulo's attack :) And if they will do it with sufficient speed, i'll notice it. |
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No, the statistics page only has the total shares that the pool found for each block. I would like running totals since forever.
If we had table with breakdown as follows;
User | Total Shares Submitted | Total Blocks Found
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user1 1048576 20
user2 32768 15
You could put a fourth column with ratio of total_shares_submitted:total_blocks_found if you like but that would be gravy.
Any thoughts on this [TYCHO], yes, no maybe?
More transparency and information is always good for building confidence, right?
Actually at this moment i'm not keeping information about who solved the block because it doesn't matters for anything except curiosity. And i have more than a 1000 of users, this would be a really long list. You want this to check if it's better to mine in pool or solo ? I'm planning to add info about average number of shares per block in the last 24 hours, which should be almost the same and useful for checking statistics. What's the point of breaking it into separate users if you don't know who is who anyway ? |
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i think that shares are fewer in a pool with a vast Gh/s, but at the same time that pool has more possibilities to catch a block! please correct me if i am wrong :)
Number of shares per block doesn't linked to pool's speed. It only depends on the current difficulty. |
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bobR u asking me or Xeon? and those suggestions are up to pool owner if they become a problem. I think people dropping out could be general computer problems too its really hard to maintain a gpu at 100% for a long period of time without something happening
Xeon on the rant as for gpu up ... it works or it don't gpu maintain suggests ??? your playing with it ?? or doing something unusual It can overheat computer may restart network outage problem with the mining software alot of things can happen. get a pair of 5870s or 6970s throw em in a case and see if they just work 24/7 no problems at all Actually yes, they are. But the possibility to leave it any time is good. |
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I can restore the accounts from a database backup tomorrow.
Would be very nice :) (i'm writing this from a temporary one) |
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Hi, I'm a new bitcoin user and joining your pool with my (not so) hefty ~890 kh/s (peak). I have question/suggestion for you: would it not make more sense for the payments on the Payments page to be in reverse chronological sequence, with the most recent at the top and oldest at the bottom? Granted.It would to me. As for the "Your part in the pool's current speed" measure, I've only ever seen it read 0%, diverging occasionally/briefly to some impossibly high value. Same for "average speed in last 7 minutes" actually. To me, those could both be removed because they seem useless and uninformative.
"average speed in last 7 minutes" or luck meter works for fast miners. I'll add time window adjustment for it to work with CPU miners too. |
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Unless the thing I'm missing is cooling. I haven't tried to build a 4 GPU system before. Is it going to be impossible to cool a 4x 5870 system that's running 24/7?
You would have to use flexible PCIe-extenders to connect four GPUs because if you plug them all directly into MB, they'll block ait intakes of each other. And you can't plug them all directly because standart ATX system would accept only 7 cards (and each 5870 takes double space). |
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Yes, I would like to see how many shares each user has contributed and how many actual blocks they have solved ... (do not need to know who the users are they can remain anonymous). Just to get an idea of distribution of proof of work difficulty 1 versus network difficulty randomness.
Can you explain further what do you mean ? You want a list of all users, their submitted shares and found blocks ? But it would be the same as existing statistics page. The idea of having multiple addresses I talked about earlier and randomization of the minimum value for automatic payment would help with anonymity. Or, if you'd rather the client handle it, perhaps a lightweight RPC/SOAP API for changing address/minimum value? Technically it's possible, but how this can improve anonymity ? Your address is anonymous already and you can split/merge received coins by yourself with same results. Does anyone finds "Your part in the pool's current speed" meter useful ? Can i remove it from account page ?I'd like to free up some space for additional features. |
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I would like to hear your suggestions about adding new features to deepbit.net
Is there something you want to see in my pool ?
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after testing i'll allow more instant payouts per day, may be 10 or something like that.
I read somewhere that it's possible for the pool to process its own payments in the blocks it generates (I might have misunderstood it). If that's true, wouldn't that enable you to allow unlimited number of payouts? I'm already including my payouts in my blocks (as i said many times in this thread :) But it makes blockchain size bigger anyway. And your payouts list becomes less useful. Yes, after some testing I will increase number of allowed manual instant payouts, but why someone would want to get automatic payments that frequently ? It's more useful to get one 1-50 BTC payment per day instead of some bitcents each hour. And if you need your money now - just press the "Instant payment" button. Of course i'm open to suggestions if you tell me what do you need and why it's better. |
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Also those windows will not be shown if you run miners as different user in Windows, using scheduler.
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Tycho is thier anything you can do to increse the frequency of Auto payouts without stressing your wallet?
There is no stressing. Technically i can pay even every minute, but i don't want to flood the network with small transactions. People rarely need their bitcents that frequently, but after testing i'll allow more instant payouts per day, may be 10 or something like that. |
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FYI, I noticed two failed blocks yesterday on my GPU miners.
I think that you are talking about stale shares, not failed blocks. Those are completely different things :) A couple of stale shares won't affect your reward, and failed blocks are paid by my pool anyway as confirmed ones. |
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Information on this site is wrong. It says that bitcoinpool has 50 GH/s, deepbit has 2 GH/s and bitpenny is 70 GH/s. Please, don't publish abstract numbers, people may believe it. You can use JSON interface to show real info: http://deepbit.net/json.php |
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UPDATE: Instant payout button added to web interface. http://deepbit.net/paymentsCurrently two payouts per day are allowed (automatic or manual), this is a temporary limit. Button is shown when your balance is at least 0.01 BTC and you received less than two payments in last 24 hours. |
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I don't have this problem, Tycho doesn't either. Actually i'm not displaying block numbers at all to prevent any mismatch :) |
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See, slush's stats page has problem. Look at block 115147. It's listed two times. The bottom link for 115147 takes you to that block in block explorer. The link right above it for the same block, 115147, takes you to blockexplorer where you see an error "No such block". Slush's stats are wrong and have bugs in it.
Ours is correct. Check every link on our blocks page if you want, they're all correct.
We can easily check it. If you are sure that block 114974 is yours then 1LNMd6utxZQHGkEiL2m2ZSnVqkSNB3M5un is your address because 50 BTC generated in this block were sent to it. http://blockexplorer.com/block/000000000000da97d2ba7ddb5d3c9b48980b92bb12f3926bb0382615853fbacaI am correct ? Then you can send, for example, 100 BTC or at least 60 BTC to this address from your wallet or any pool's wallets. If this is your address, your balance won't change and we all will see that you did it. If it's NOT your address, then this will be your fine for making false statements :) |
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