If you vote, your name doesn't show up.

So its safe to use the voting poll.

Wish the OP would fix the poll options however.   Im a grammar/spelling/punctuation nazi 

Everybody vote, this is actually pretty interesting.

I figured on a site like this, most of you would be old school and have 1000+

But its looking like nearly everyone has fewer than 20 ....

My vote:

Magnet bumper stickers. 

Sticker isn't an option for this vehicle.

Hello?

Original poster?  Still out there?

Bunch of questions above.  Im sure everyone here wants to know the details so this can be avoided.

Any anomalies?

-B-

Agreed.  Banks have to pay for all your transactions, and I doubt they're going to be willing to let you play with hundreds and thousands of deposits and withdrawals, using their system to do so.  that costs them money.  I understand why they closed it down, and it has nothing to do with some "war on bitcoin".  Banks just dont want to pay the fees.   They got pissed off at me because i was transferring money in and out of a savings account too much last month.  And all i was doing was transferring to my other accounts. 

I just spent the last 4 hours searching Google and trying to find help in recovering my encrypted wallet passphrase.  When I went into Bitcoin QT and tried to send BTC, it told me that the passphrase I had written down and stored in multiple locations, was simply wrong.  This seemed impossible.  I not only had 4 electronic copies of it, but I had printed 2 copies on paper, and I know for a fact I didn't manually type it into QT.Especially when it doesnt allow me to see the letters I am typing.  My passphrase was also something like j2j#2@#;@#;338#&*.   Only an idiot would manually type that.  So I had copied and pasted it into QT from the source text file itself.  Yet it was wrong?   Yep.   Here are some things you can try if you run into this as well:

1)  Do first, what I did last.  It may save you a few hours of wasted stress:  One by one, try the alternative of the character.  So if you think your passcode is:
JkW#H*
Try this:  jkW#H*
Then this:  JKW#H*
Then this:  Jkw#H*
Then this:  JkW3H*
And so forth.  This is how I finally figured out what my passphrase was supposed to be.  I had somehow put a lower case k when it should have been capitalized.  To this day I have no idea how this happened, as there is no way I manually typed this passphrase into QT.  Especially when I can't see what I am typing as I type.  I guess it will remain a mystery....  Or QT has a bug

2)  If you copy paste in your passcode, consider that you may have pasted in a leading carriage return.  To test this, type your assumed passphrase into a text file.  Make sure there's a blank line above it.  Click and drag from that line to the end of your passcode on the next line, like this (the "|" is just to show you where you first click and drag from):

|
JkW#H*
When you past that into QT, you will see an extra "dot" show up for that leading carriage return.

3)  Do the same with a possible ending "return".  Blank line below the passphrase.  Click the first letter of the passphrase and drag it to the line below it:

JkW#H*
|

4)  If you are a copy paster, try pasting in the receiving address in your wallet for the last deposit.  Its possible you had copied that into another tool to receive coins, and never actually copied your passphrase to the clipboard, so you pasted the receiving address into QT instead.

5)  Lastly, try it with a space at the end of your assumed passphrase.   Just add a space and copy the passphrase with the space included.  On both the front and the end, maybe even both.

5)  If you aren't a copy paster, and you simply forgot what it is because you didnt write it down (shame on you), or something else is wrong, this is a very valuable thread with some code you can run to try and get it back:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85495.0

If anyone else has any tips on how to recover a lost passphrase feel free to chime in here.   I think this process forced me to get creative in my thinking so I wanted to document the things I tried, as it may help someone else one day. 

One last tip - from now on im no longer using #@#$23e@@IKKJ#@LKJ@# passphrases.  It will be something in my head, that I'm actually able to remember.

Hope this helps someone.

Comments:  Totally annoyed that I simply can't KNOW my own private address for my wallet.  Why the hell is this hidden from me as the wallet owner?   Ridiculous.  Secondly, QT needs to allow people to see the characters as they are typing.  Obviously.  I can't imagine how many people will type this super important passphrase wrong, and they wont even know it until it comes time to SEND the BTC somewhere.  Again, ridiculous.  Lastly, QT should support printing of paper wallets so people can get their BTC out of the "electronic" realm altogether and not have to hope and pray that something doesn't corrupt the file, or even the passphrase.  I still believe there is no way in hell I manually typed that passphrase and got the "K" in there as a "k".  I'd sooner believe there's a bug in the encrypter or a virus or something.  And the number of people reporting incorrect passphprases when they are 100000% certain its not wrong, is large if you do a google search. 

Bottom line:   This aspect of BTC needs to be *CHANGED* or improved for end users if BTC ever hopes to become a worldwide currency.  Its nonsense, and nobody is going to adopt something that has such a high risk of losing tens of thousands of dollars.  I very easily could have lost $2,600 today because of a lower case "k"..  That isn't acceptable for any currency. 

Love,

Grumpy

Not sure why this topic doesn't belong on this "forum" as it pertains to cryptocurrencies, and this forum is about cryptocurrencies.

Thankfully, Vircurex responded the next day and transferred the coins.

Wonder what happened.

All's well that ends well.

It has now been like 15 hours and nothing.

When i searched for my receiving address on the blockchain it says this:

"Address not seen on the network"

Neither my local Feathercoin QT client nor Vircurex show any progress on the transfer, but Vircurex shows my balance at zero.

I attempted to sign up on the Feathercoin Forums but their forum fails to send activation email so I can't ask them there.

Help.

Thank God for Google and finding this thread.

So this just happened to me.

I know exactly why, but honestly this seems like a bug with the Litecoin QT software.

My Wifi switch was off when I hit the Send button.

When I realized it, I turned it back on.  

Yet the transaction sat there with 0 confirmation and said it was 'offline'.  This was after the client actually downloaded the latest data from the network too.  Still said offline.  

I waited 10 minutes then closed the QT client.  Reopened.  It reconnected.  Said I had 4 connections to the network.

Now the transaction said 0 of 6 confirmations.  No longer said offline.  But my balance in the wallet was still 0.00 and nothing was happening.  I waited a half hour.  Nothing.  0 of 6 confirmations.

Clearly something is wrong with the client.  It should detect that its offline and it should detect when it comes back online and send the transaction.  But it doesn't.  Yet it tells you that your balance is zero.

Thank God I had a backup of my wallet.dat file .... I did the same as the guys above.  

Closed the client, renamed the current wallet.dat file, copied in the backup, named it wallet.dat .. opened the client ... and boom there were my litecoin.

This time i hit send while connected to the internet and it worked immediately.

Moral of the story:  Make sure you are online when you hit "Send" or you may lose all your LTC.
And make backup copies of your wallet.dat file even if you're not storing them offline.

Scary bug.

i enjoyed it.   its a good read.

And you're right.   5 years from now it will be interesting to see where this thread led to ...

I realize fewer people are mining Feathercoin these days, but I initiated a transfer out of Vircurex today, nearly 10 hours ago .... for 1,000 of my feathercoins, and still Vircurex shows nothing in the "TrxID:" field.  Its blank.  Is it eventually going to come?  Because my balance of FTC is now Zero in Vircurex. 

Thank you sir.

Or is it just my computer?

http://www.vircurex.com/

Ira H Fuchs: Co Founder of Bitnet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Fuchs

-B-

Normally I would agree with you, except that the price just dropped from $100 to $68 practically overnight.
Therefore we have proof that even some bitcoin people are easily influenced by public opinion.

This thread is also an expression of my frustration at human nature.  People seem to be mindless sheep, following the herd.  

Just wanted to say thank you to all of you out there who are running for the hills because you are so easily terrified by negative articles you are seeing in the news, about BTC being a failed endeavour.

Those of you who are mass-unloading all your coinage because you are so easily manipulated by public opinion.

Its because of you that the rest of us are getting BTC at a huge discount right now.  So thanks!   

Please keep selling for awhile.  I was hoping to see it hit $50 before it rebounds back to $100 and eventually hits $1,000 or more.

-B-

People comment that bitcoin could one day be worth $100,000 apiece.  Part of the reason why they justify this is because the coins are so divisible.  Is the divisibility of a Bitcoin infinite?  Or is it just the 6-8 decimal places I currently see displayed next to BTC price today?

Second question:  Is the average person of the year 2020 really going to want to deal with tens, hundredths, thousandths, millionths of a decimal point when they're paying for things?  It seems significantly more complicated, at least visually, than our current system.  Im just thinking of the every day transaction for a hamburger 25 years from now.  When you have to pay with .000098247161 BTC .... usability and user-friendly goes right out the door.  I believe usability is important for the success of a currency.  Just based on human psychology trends.  And your average human being isn't really that smart.   I think we all know that.  Just go to Walmart sometime.  Do you think Cousin Mark with the Mullet and No Fear sunglasses and Lynyrd Skynyrd T shirt is going to be able to figure out how much that sweet new huntin' rifle costs when it says B0.0000002948 ?   Do you think he's going to be able to figure out how much money is in his bank account and compare the two?  He'd sit there for 20 minutes counting decimal places and zeros, then give up and go home.  Knowing how much money you have on hand at any given point is important.  The average person isn't going to want to do the math, I don't think.  I realize some of this could be automated, but still ...

This is more of a philosophical question based upon the spirit and motivation in the Bitcoin code.

A lot of things have been "anticipated" with Bitcoin, and clearly a lot of forethought went into the "what ifs" when it was put together.

What if the total was 23 million coins instead of 21 million.
What if people were rewarded with 75 coins instead of 25 per block at "x" interval.
What will the ramifications be of a slightly higher difficulty level at "x" interval versus a slightly lower one?
How will people behave in response? 
How will people react to one, versus the other.

All of these items were thought about, most likely with the goal of ensuring the success of Bitcoin as a currency.

So then ..................

How is Bitcoin programmed / structured / planned so that people are incentivized to spend their bitcoins rather than hoard them?

I was listening to a podcast on bitcoin today and began to wonder:   "What is the motivation for people to put their bitcoin back into circulation after acquiring them, rather than hold onto them indefinitely?"

Aside from obvious reasons, is there something built into the system which will encourage people to offload those bitcoins?  Or is it only the typical "stock market" motivators... like fear of losing value when the value starts to drop, so they sell?   Or excitement at the prospect of riches, by selling when the price goes up?  Is that the only motivation the system has built into it which will ensure the currency will continue cycling? 

Everybody keeps saying that all possible angles were anticipated, but I have not seen any safeguards put in place that ensure bitcoin will not become a "hoarded" commodity, with 80% buy and hold types?  What is in place that will ensure Bitcoin actually "becomes a currency" (which requires 80%+ actual constant spending) ? 

This is a difficult question to articulate.   Hope the answer is more simple.

Title says it all.  I was thinking about this today and I just don't get it.  I don't want to go online to some website, save it to my hard drive, log off the interwebZ, jump through hoops, clap 5 times and do 10 jumping jacks just to get a paper wallet.

I dont want to log into Coinbase and use theirs either, as they keep record of everything online, and you totally expose yourself.

You would think the QT wallets for BTC LTC etc would already have this there.  Great.  You can encrypt your wallet.dat file.  And then some turd can (already has) create a virus which FTP's your wallet.dat file to himself.  Why wouldn't these things simply have a "PRINT" button?  

No external hard drives needed.   No wallet.dat files.  

No remote website.

No risk.

Just print.

Its a local wallet.  "Print your wallet".   File > Print Wallet....

Dear Captain Sarcastic:  Im not even going to reply.  You know exactly what I meant when I wrote it.  Though you're pretending not to.

Thread was titled "Alternative to BitInstant".  

BitInstant does not sell Bitcoin at $17 over its market value.

Still looking for an alternative to Bitinstant.
-B-