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1821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 13, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
Someone just argued with me that gambling can be done by kid too.. Huh
We all know that gambling is not mend for kids and that is why they should not come in contact with it because they maybe will try it out.
It will then stick with them and they will gamble when they are old enough to do so.

Those parents that are going to teach and allow their kids to gamble are the most irresponsible parents who are being alive today.

Because kids must not even be exposed to gambling because if they are going to be curious and wants to try gambling for sure that is going to be a problem to their parenting.

And how the kids will going to cover up their addiction if that happens.

Yeah I totally agree with you. Because kids should not be allowed to conduct gambling gambling, because it will affect their lives and also the mindset of kids. Better do have to teach something that you can't make them think only about convenience or imagination
Since kids likes to play games, this is a good idea, don’t pollute their minds with casino games, teach them games that will help them develop their skills, games like chees and checkers are good for this.

well nowadays we really can't control what kids can get their hands on. they will, one day or another, be exposed to gambling. and just as you've said gambling is a game and kids are attracted to any kind of games so i think the best solution here is for the parents to educate their children even if they're young.
1822  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 13, 2016, 05:09:28 PM
Of course trading is one of the hardest job in the world especially if you are going to make it as the main source of your income.

Since we don't have prediction and we don't know what are going to happen for the price of the alt coins and even with bitcoin so if you are a trader.

Then you have a unstable job but once you are going to have successful trades then for sure you are going to have good outcome.
Trading is hard no doubt about it but is not as hard as it may seem, you need the right knowledge and rules and if you have some natural instinct for it, it can make you a good amount of money.
You are stating about trading in an emotional way, but personally I believe that will not work all the time.
Because predicting the direction of market movement in natural instinct way, might get failed over time. Your emotions will not work all the time in a similar manner. Having right skills to trade would be the right approach in my personal opinion.

yeah that's right trading needs knowledge and experience for you to at least be able to earn at a somewhat consistent basis. although it's not going to be certain that you'll profit everyday like signature campaigns, knowing about the market and the movement of coins would help you a lot to be able to make credible and calculated risks
1823  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: October 13, 2016, 05:03:56 PM
intersting , very interesting to accept salary in bitcoin but it's not avaible in any company, so where i can findin a job with salary in bitcoin ?
Better to find company that are related into bitcoin too so that you can easily accept bitcoin when you are working at bitcoi related or crypto currenies because it is much more appropriate than work right if your company don't pay bitcoin then ask them if they can now.

in my point of view , idea to accept your salary in bitcoin. Maybe some people (dominan)  want to accept their salary into bitcoin, but  A little part of bitcoin user feel more easy if their salary received in other currency. Indlucing dollars.
because anyone who's getting his payment in bitcoin currently is already need to convert his bitcoin to fiat to spend them and buy foods etc... so people see this and they think there is not sense to accepting bitcoin as salary.

Yeah and even price is not higher at a moment and I am sure it bitcoin achieves 4 digit price in future then most of the users will prefer to accept salary in bitcoins.
Its possible since its already been  happen before and i think its 3 years ago and we are still not experience it. and i think this following year we can experience that amount that can make more profit if you holding a lots of bitcoins.

yeah well obviously the answer to the question here if we're going to accept bitcoin as our salary is yes. however there are some setbacks here as most things we would be using our salaries for would be in fiat so we need to exchange the bitcoins first. another challenge is that bitcoin is not yet widely accepted in other countries. here from where i am not a lot of people are aware of bitcoin yet so as much as i would like to and as much as how it would be very convenient for me, it's not possible as of the moment
1824  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you tell in public that you use bitcoin? on: October 13, 2016, 04:59:56 PM
I think it's normal to pay bitcoints wherever possible. I do not hide it. Soon they will enjoy many

Sincerely, as much as possible that I want to tell people about my exposure to bitcoin even though little as it may I find it difficult because of the environment here as the acceptance is not really deep and the perception of people about anything that is not FIAT is assume to be illegal or belongs to the underworld so, I am in  a fix so what I do is to wait for someone to be curious and then use the avenue to give proper orientation and exposure as necessary.

yeah that's what we bitcoin users are doing here as well. we show people what we're doing and then we let them be the one to ask. then that's when we try to inform them about bitcoin. most people that i know here are not aware of bitcoin yet so i try to explain everything to them. it would be beneficial for us anyway once more and more people are using bitcoin
1825  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 12, 2016, 05:42:03 PM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
Best way for a steady income is buy getting yourself a job because it is not the best thing if you are relying on Bitcoin for you to get a steady income.
Bitcoin is better as something on the side because the earnings can be random.

yeah getting a job is for now the best option although you can still make steady earnings through signature campaigns, but the amount you'll get would most likely be insufficient for your everyday spending. so it's good for side earnings only and it would be best if you keep a stable job.
1826  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 12, 2016, 05:32:21 PM
If I had a legitimate way to make the same amount of money with bitcoin as I do with my currenct fulltime job then hell yeah I would quit right now to go full time on bitcoin but sadly I can't make the same amount of money.

Actually the fact is our day job eats all our time and we cannot spare enough time for bitcoins but if we can manage to do that then I think there is a possibility that we can earn higher income from it.

yeahi agree with what you said in the second comment. it may not be worth it at the start, but if you put time in btc, give it around a month, and a little capital, you may very well be able to earn quite close to what you're earning with your day job. well that applies to me, though sorry. if your day job is like making around 6 figures a month then that's a different story Cheesy

Me, i"d rather be safe than sorry. Even if bitcoin is currently able to give me extra income through signature campaign and a little trading, it's not enough to supply for my everyday needs. For now at least.
1827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 12, 2016, 05:25:01 PM
My fave team MAVS finally back on track after the debut game of Dirk Nowitzki against the OKC. Yes Nowitzki didn't played for their recent preseason games because MAVS are doing some "plan" for this veteran player. Keeping up it's shape in the next season is one of their goal.

Dirk Debuts With Win Over OKC
Sad to say Dirk is already too old to compete with young superstars, they are still the same team last season and what I see is that they will still not gonna make it to the playoffs, I am sorry mate but if Mavs is your team you will not see their weaknesses.

yeah i think dirk is already way past his prime and is already on his way following tim and kobe. he's still a very dependable player though but i think the mavs would be very hard-pressed to move past the second or third round as the competition in the west is very tight. still wishing the best for your fave team though, dirk still is one of my favorite players
1828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: October 12, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
Gambling can not be considered as a sickness. From this same reason why alohol or cigarettes can not be considered as a sickness. It is product/service. High risk of addiction is completly different thing.

People should be warned and protected against gambling as well as from the effects of excessive drinking and smoking.


yeah its the same with all other addictions, although yeah i think gambling needs to be regulated as well as the other vices that you've stated. it will be extremely hard though, especially because access to gambling is very easy, same with drinking and smoking.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 12, 2016, 05:14:53 PM
I have seen some of my friends have stop gambling after they find it is not entertaining  nor profitable. Online gambling are really boring to myself too, maybe we are looking for more entertaining gambling sites similar to real casino house.
That must be true. The expectations of a girl must be always different from men and hopefully they will not love the entertainment of mixture of winning and losing streaks. Some girls are not practical and not ready to accept losses in gambling, so they will never understand the real and peculiar way of entertainments of gambling.

Yeah, that's something the right thing. most women don't like gambling, because it is their dislike of defeat and do not like gambling system. So only women who do require a lot of money or forced to gambling that will do. Because it is essentially the women prefer to receive than trying to get something
i can't really agree with what you've said that only women who require a lot of money gambles. as the previous posts said, it depends on women's preference for the reason they're gambling. i know a lot of girls who just simply enjoy going to casinos and challenge themselves with poker. though there are fewer girls than men who engage in gambling, they still gamble and that't not only for money

Yes saying that girls play because they require money is not fair. Just like boys, some girls are just into the enjoyment that gambling gives them.
1830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 12, 2016, 05:11:59 PM
Actually its very strange to know that people who get rich from gambling stay richer for shorter time. Either they end up losing more due to more gamble or due to sudden change in their lifestyle they cannot manage their money.



well it may seem that way for most people who get big amounts of money easily because it's not hard earned. it's different if the money you're spending came from your hard work because you knew where i came from and you'd be more diligent and responsible in spending. whereas if you simply won it from gambling, you'd sometimes have the mindset that you've already won so there's a chance that you'll win again, which is mostly not the case.
1831  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: October 12, 2016, 05:00:11 PM
i never put all my amount from my pocket on internet because i want spend some money in real life and invest lower amount and work longer to get bigger amount because i am low risk businessman.

Indeed it's not smart to put all your money into bitcoin and I don't think anyone does this because everyone has bills right? Then explain to me how people pay their bills if their money is all in bitcoin.

very logical dude you got that right, bitcoin in not that widely used yet so definitely you'd still be using your local currency for major and simple transactions.
1832  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Skills vs Luck *poll* on: October 12, 2016, 04:52:49 PM
I think it's both skills and luck because if you have those two it will be easy for you to earn money. It's bad if you are just relying on luck and just doing some random pick for the coin to just find the right coin.

You have no control over Luck but you have full control on skill. So if you develop your skills, the more likely are the chances that luck will be with you. This is what i belief.

Indeed skill will always be number one important people tend to think luck is but luck is inconsistent cant rely on it etc etc. But skill is always there to reliable aswell therefore skill > luck.

i agree but that doesn't actually apply to everything though. for example when you're playing baccarat or dice, you don't have to be skilled in reading cards like when you play poker. or like when you play lottery, one can be very rich without having any kind of skill. sometimes dear brothers, luck is simply all you need.
1833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 12, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
Gambling is not wrong unless you are addicted or irresponsible.

If you are doing this for fun, not to earn money, you will always end up paying few bucks for some time of enjoyment.
You can always set your limits, and you can always bet only what you can afford to lose.

I personally bet less then 5$ once a week, which is for the fun, not for earning money.

If you are doing so to earn money, then you can caught up in a big problems, because you may lose all of your savings.

Just bet with responsible and everything will be alright.


right! that's actually a good idea with what you're doing having just 5$ a week spent for gambling. that way you don't restrain yourself from enjoying gambling while also practicing self control as so to not get addicted. i might just be doing the same thing here thanks
1834  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 12, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Best for a steady income you won't find here because for example trading will never be steady for you cause prices are volatile, and then you have services which are not steady cause once you can do that service and the other day the other.

Exactly trading will never give steady income as it is an combination of profit and loss, so its hard to expect steady income in bitcoin unless you are earning it from signature campaign.

yeah though for signature campaigns, it might just not be enough specially if you have a family to support,  so i think the best thing to do for now would be to get a stable job, have savings, and then do bitcoin on the side for extra earnings.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling made for kids???? on: October 12, 2016, 04:30:43 PM
gambling to kid under 10 year old is not good
but is very bad, this brain not good learn gambling to kid
For me I think for the ages of 20yrs downwards are not good, or it is better that you if you can stay away your children to learn about gambling they cannot get addicted when the time comes that they become mature so that their children also cannot adopt it.
21 years old to be safer, in the US only with age 21 can enter in a bar so I think that is the basis for a person to be called a matured person or adult, we know that gambling is a very risky game as it involves money so it is just right not to teach that to kids.
yeah 21 yrs old is the right age I think to play gambling, like what I've said 20yrs old downwards are not good to play gambling, because for me, that is not a legal age for us and I think we are mature enough when we start at 21yrs old.
i don't think it really doesn't matter if they're 20 or 21. parents should educate children while they're young to be responsible with their money and explain to them how gambling can affect their lives. that's because these times, online gambling is easily accessible to pretty much every one even kids whether we like it or not so i think parents should be responsible to make children understand why gambling is not good for them
you have a point! But I will just suggest that I think 21yrs old can play gambling because I think that age is pretty mature enough, I know because I am also a parent but for me I think it is better if you don't teach or exposed your children in gambling or every type of gambling.
21 years old is already a legitimate age to gamble, and I would not call you kids in that age, with 21 years old you are already an adult ready to face the world and matured enough to make the right decision in life including in gambling.
well for me 21 years doesn't determine a person's maturity. i mean what's the difference between a 20 year old and a 21 year old. maturity doesnt come with age. it's just a number. maturity is when someone knows how to handle things presented to him and when he knows how to be responsible. this applies to most things in a person's life including how he handles gambling if ever
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I never made any profits in dice game.. whats is your opinion on: October 11, 2016, 10:53:40 PM


At any given time you can browse primedice or other dice sites and find players with profit.

Right now at primedice, I chose High Rollers and found this player:




whoah for real? this is one rich lucky guy i mean i wouldn't believe you could actually earn this big amount with dice! i mean, look at the difference between his wins and losses. still wouldn't try my luck there though there may only be a few people who are that lucky


Yeah, it's real. there are some dudes with profits over 200btc. it's all luck man some folks get lucky and take big win and some lose big.
Someone are making a good profit 19 btc as profit and high wagered.. honestly it is hard to make that starts for your account. maybe there is other people that really lucky to gamble

Its hard to say its luck though when you look at how many times the dude won. Must be some technique or some ritual hes doing before rolling but its hard to believe that his winnings are more than 50 percent.
1837  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: October 11, 2016, 10:48:34 PM
In my opinion, trading is not an very easy way to earn money, like what some people think. There are many good traders who lost a lot of money in trading, even those with lots of experience.

Yes of course it's so difficult and unpredictable cause you need luck sometimes and luck you can't predict at all.
Of course the better you are the more consistent you get but still very difficult in my opinion.
yes that is a fact that it is very difficult to predict about bitcoin but still there so much expert people who are really predict in trading and are really making a good money.

Well in trading you definitely make risks specially if you're just starting to trade. Its better that you have someone who is already familiar or who has experience guide you or try to research first before trying it. Its going to be worth it though once you are already an experinced trader
1838  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: October 11, 2016, 09:45:12 PM
may be a time will come when bitcoin will really replace bitcoin and then all the people of the world will be using bitcoin instead of USD or any other currency, but i think that it is not so easy and it will take some generation to pass and only then may be all the people of the world will be using bitcoin.

Well thats possible but not likely in the years to come. I dont think the dollar can be replaced as the main currency in this generation nor the next. Bitcoin maybe recognized globally but i think it will have a very difficult time to replace the dollar currency
1839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 11, 2016, 06:24:02 PM
Is staying away too difficult to do? Just stay away. That's it.
If you are too addicted and you feel like you can't stay away, bet all your money for good. If you won, bet it again. Then when you lose, you're gonna stop betting for sure.  Grin

that's a pretty straight forward way to do it and you have a very good point since you won't have any capital for betting anymore. but there are some people who, even if they have nothing, would loan or borrow money or even sell property just to keep their gambling activities active. it's really very difficult to stay away and you may need all the help you can get or if you're just starting to gamble, try to implement strict rules for yourself
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 11, 2016, 06:16:48 PM
Think about how much you have lost already from the first time you gambled. Somehow it helps me to prevent from gambling again when I see the numbers that I have lost.
If you are going to calculate all of your lose probably you gonna cry because if you save that for your future then you are going to have money or thing im not good in gambling so im just earning and holding bitcoin for my future somehow i have a goal after this month and i want that to achieve

well that may work, but for some, seeing their losses only increases their desire to win back whatever they lost. if you have a family, or kids it would be better to get inspiration from them to quit gambling
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