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1821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I'm anxious ... how to split wallet.dat? on: October 09, 2010, 02:08:28 PM
Splitting and merging wallets is another thing that would be nice to have as feature on the client.

But anyway, you can do it with a little work.

I think these steps would help:

  • Make a backup of your wallet.dat somewhere safe.
  • Stop bitcoin (if running) and remove the wallet.dat from the default directory (your user home)
  • Start the program, it should create a new wallet.dat file on your home, empty.
  • Create a new address with your new file.
  • Follow first 2 steps again, for this new file.
  • Put your old wallet.dat file, with all your money, back into your user home.
  • Send the amount you want to the address you created on step 4.

Voilà, you now have two wallet.dat files with different amounts on them.
1822  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ===>>>BCM SCAM ALERT<<<=== on: October 09, 2010, 09:05:56 AM
In what way these alternatives you present here are better than paypal?
1823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrencies are theftproof on: October 07, 2010, 08:33:47 PM
If you really want to prevent anyone from stealing your bitcoins, you can.  You just encrypt and backup your wallet.dat file, and remove the orginal file.  And that's it.  Sure, you won't be able to use your bitcoins until you restore your wallet, but that's not the point.  It's the same as your gold : you can't use it as long as it is in your safe.  You can't have protection and useability in the same time.

You can't even check that you received a transaction. Actually, I suppose that without the wallet.dat file you can't even run the program, so you can't generate either... (I suppose it would create a new wallet.dat, but then there is no easy way to merge the files, you would have to run the program with one, get an address, restart the program with the other, transfer... )

It would be really nice if the client could manage private key password encryption on its own. It could encrypt all address but "remember" the address the wallet has (not the private keys), in order to check reception. It could also continue to receive blocks and generate, since this doesn't depend on the previous private keys.
1824  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Vanity bitcoin addresses: a new way to keep your CPU busy on: October 07, 2010, 07:46:24 AM
Question:
does bitcoin own generated addresses? Yes?
So you are owning 2 hours of generated addresses that you won't use anytime, I'm correct?
Are them a waste of addresses?

As far as I understand, there is no "waste" of addresses. Anyone can by chance generate one of the addresses that he discarded during the process.
If in the process he was saving each attempt, then there would be two owners of a same address.

The chance of this happening is so remote, that there is no reason to worry. (I guess)
1825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin money? on: October 07, 2010, 07:32:38 AM
He kept insisting that "if there is no guarantee, it's worthless".

Have you tried showing him that they are already worth around 0,06USD each ?
Actually, try to explain what value is... gold itself has no "guarantee"... nobody can really guarantee people will keep valuing gold.

1826  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gov't ability to break encryption on: October 05, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
What kind of harm one could do by breaking cryptography in a super-speed like the scenario suggested?

AFAIK, the block building is a process of cryptography breaking itself. So, if the "enemy" could gather more processing power than the entire honest network, s/he could generate his own block chain where s/he could undo some past transactions and cause other troubles. But, even for the government, it sounds too much of computing power.

Another thing they could do is try to break the private key of someone. That would be an attempt of stealing... it doesn't sound profitable since people rarely would have too much money under one same private key, and if it takes months to break it, the money will probably change keys before that.

Besides running a parallel block chain or stealing someone's money, what else could be done with a super-key-breaking-computer?
1827  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling 50,000+ BTC at $0.04/BTC on: September 29, 2010, 09:26:25 PM
@bitcoin2cash:
Just find a way to use the private key of this address of yours to sign something and post it on your site. This would at least prove you own 50kBTC.

Regards
1828  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Selling 50,000+ BTC at $0.04/BTC on: September 29, 2010, 04:15:54 PM
It should be easy to prove he has the 50k if he could sign something using the private keys that hold these 50k, shouldn't it?

Of course that doesn't prove he'll sell them at the price announced, but at least prove he has them, or at most, proves that somebody who has them is his friend.  Grin
1829  Economy / Economics / Re: FT: Brazil in ‘currency war’ alert on: September 28, 2010, 08:47:52 AM
Isnt keynesianism great?

The worst is that this reaction of these dumb-ass third world* central bankers isn't really Keynesian.
The reason they want to devaluate their currencies is because they want to boost exports. You know, it's always better to sell than to buy, right hein?

Impressive. It's pure "mercantilism", centuries after it has been proved a wrong economic thought.

And then, of course, the means through which they will promote this devaluation is through Keynesian ideas, what will make things even worse than plain simple inflation. Following a bad idea through horrible means.

I hope Marc Faber is wrong and this crisis does not end up in a war.

+1

* Before the politically correct police jumps on me, let me just say I'm a "third world" citizen.
1830  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Equity Market on: September 24, 2010, 09:41:59 AM
At a first glance the idea sounds interesting, but you're suggesting to create an unofficial stock market. Being unofficial, no enforcement of any kind would be available. You can't enforce companies to publish real data, or even to pay owed dividends. You can't enforce decision power to be given to someone that buys enough stocks either...

Just a remark, not saying it couldn't work.
1831  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Losing Critical Mass and Call to Action on: September 23, 2010, 07:55:00 AM
How are bitcoins 'real' property anymore than the music on a Celine Dion CD?  That's what I don't understand.  Aren't bitcoins 'artifically' scarce?

But you can treat your CD, with whatever it has in it, as your property. The same thing for your hard drive and the bitcoin keys in it. They are your property, and if I use them without your consent, I'm violating your rights.

But as long as you allow a friend to copy the content of your CD to his property, without imposing any sort of contract, then the copy this person has belongs to him only. Celine Dion can't accuse this friend of yours of violating her rights. Maybe she could accuse you, if you had signed a particular contract to obtain such CD that prevented you from doing that. But your friend has nothing to do with it.
1832  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Losing Critical Mass and Call to Action on: September 23, 2010, 07:36:18 AM
Exactly.  And such contracts could be structured in such a way as to have almost the same practical effect as IP enforcement.  Which makes me suspect that arguments in favor of evading IP laws are as much about getting free music and free movies as they are about consistent libertarianism.  But I'm still learning.

No, it's not just about downloading music and movies...
This whole IP industry is "lost".
I've worked in companies that pay you just for creating them patents. Whether these patents will be used or not, it's not important. Many are just kept as "protection" or to attack competitors that decide to implement it. Many small companies specialize in create ridiculous patents and use them against companies that have been doing that for a while. And due to different regional laws, many of this "patent trolls" succeed.
In the end, a legal resource meant to protect and stimulate innovation is actually preventing it from happening.

I doubt that in a society of voluntary law such a thing could happen.
1833  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 21, 2010, 04:21:50 PM
Maybe you shouldn't have given them the impression that Bitcoin is money!

 Huh

But then what would be the point of my e-mail ?
1834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 21, 2010, 04:19:22 PM
Not exactly. Smiley

As a commodity; gold and silver are backed by the labour/energy that has been expelled to mine and refine it. They also have inherent value because these metals are rare. (Well, rare for now. There are some situations that *could* change that.)

It is not really correct to say that.
First, there is no inherent value in anything (I explained that in another thread). The value of everything is subjective, it is not a characteristic of stuff... it's an opinion people have of stuff. But anyway, I understood what you meant.

And also, the labor/energy spent on the production of something does not determine the price of this something. That's by the way the labor-value theory used by Marx to justify his theory, which, obviously, is wrong. Smiley
Something may be worth less than what was spent to produce it (that's why many business have losses!). Actually, I think that the current value of bitcoins is below what we spend in energy to generate them, but I never tried to calculate it.

Now, if the power/internet went out for an extensive period of time, and I needed to buy something, I'd rather have gold/silver. (Food and other supplies would be even better actually, but I'm trying to limit the scope of my post to gold/silver/bitcoins.)

Ok, point taken, without computers/internet, no bitcoins. But if these things cease existing, bitcoins will be the least of our problems! Grin
(unless you meant like people who do not have access to these things... that is not a problem... I think that if bitcoins ever get enough popular, there will be physical means to exchange little amounts easily... )
1835  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 21, 2010, 09:39:13 AM
This is definitely true. I contacted Mises.org about publishing my Bitcoin article. Of course, they rejected it because they said it would "appear to be a promotion". I think they're worried about the legal ramifications of it.

I guess Mises is too academic anyway. Best to spread the word to other groups that would be more willing to endorse it.

Nice that you tried. Once I have some time I'll do the same. Maybe multiple people writing them might convince them to at least read something about it.

I tried with Brazilian Mises Institute as well, and they also rejected so far, apparently because it's money "backed by nothing", as said above. I'm waiting a little before trying to explain them the difference between bitcoins and fiat currencies, but I'll try.
1836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 21, 2010, 08:55:43 AM
FreeMoney is right.  Unfortunately, hard-money Austrian-economic libertarians are immediately critical of bitcoin when they find out that it is backed by "nothing" Shocked

Exactly like gold and silver.  Angry

We need to make they understand that...
1837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 20, 2010, 03:45:48 PM
By labeling everyone who participates as a t3l2l2ol2ist and slapping them with fake charges to aid in prosecution.  Imagine: The LARGEST t3l2l2ol2ist network to have existed as of yet.

Well, they've been trying something similar against piracy, labeling people "thief" and all... so far the results haven't been that effective Smiley
1838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 20, 2010, 11:46:33 AM
You aren't going to win many converts saying "Bitcoin is better than gold", but maybe try "Bitcoin is a great compliment to gold", which is true since it is very different, but still has the important features.

But it is better than gold. Smiley I am not saying that it is a better investment option right now, just that it is a better currency.
Any commodity is a potential currency. What made gold and silver excellent currencies are some inner features of such precious metals, that are not only shared by bitcoins, but improved.
If you have patience with automatic translations, I tried to explain it here: http://tinyurl.com/38llgfq
1839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down? on: September 20, 2010, 07:27:39 AM
How to grow the Bitcoin idea and avoid that governments shut it down?

To help it grow we should try not only the geek community as mentioned above, but the libertarian community as well. If we make a good number of libertarians realize that bitcoins are even better than gold as currency, they will support it.
If anyone here has any sort of contact with any libertarian think tank, please, talk to them about bitcoins!

Regarding avoiding governments to shut it down... well... if it ever gets sufficiently widespread to threat their monetary policies, you may be sure they will try to shut it down.
But... how do you shut down a P2P system?  Smiley
1840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do this? on: September 15, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
i wonder how many users are simply trying to generate some bitcoins just because they can be exchanged for money... it seems to me there are a lot of that kind of users

They are probably wasting money if doing so.... I think that the electricity costs of generation highly exceed what you can get for it.
But, well, let's not complain... they are helping the network by donating processing power to the block building process, as well as allowing us to buy cheaper bitcoins  Wink
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