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1841  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: CBDC in Russia on: July 27, 2023, 02:56:03 PM
Αlso when all the countries do not have their CBDC, how will they operate within the countries? One contury want to trade in fiat while other in CBDC  Huh  Or will the people be allowed to buy bitcoin through CBDC
CBDC is pretty simple in concept. Money that is exclusively available digitally. There will be no difference, other than the lack of physical currency (i.e., banknotes). You cannot understand the difference when trading fiat with CBDC electronically; it'll be like trading national currencies via some Internet broker.

I don't understand how a CBDC can completely forbid its users from buying bitcoin, unless there has to be a justification for every transaction happening, which besides utopian is neither going to work in practice.
1842  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: To the Ill-informed, btc has done more harm than good on: July 27, 2023, 02:05:45 PM
Well that's what they said on Internet before, there are a lot of uninformed individuals and then it's enemies said that it is just a fad.
I've always like that analogy. I mean, remember the Internet FUD, and then realize that Bitcoin's FUD is even greater than that. I don't want to sound very optimistic, though, because I think the Internet is more useful than bitcoin.

We have seen the negative marketing all the time and the biggest medium to do this is through news platforms.
Yeah, but how often is that happening anymore? I mean, we're like in mid 2023, and the price is barely moving due to news nowadays.
1843  Other / Meta / Re: How Can We Identify Someone Who Uses AI? on: July 27, 2023, 01:48:35 PM
We can't actually. That's one of the reasons people are afraid of deep learning. The better it is, the less capable we are at distinguishing it. If you write a program, that learns how I'm writing, responding, which are my preferences, interests etc., then you can clone BlackHatCoiner. At that point, only my digital signature will be sufficient for proving I'm indeed me.

But at the moment it isn't so concerning. I'm myself detecting and reporting newbies who use ChatGPT. But we won't distinguish that forever. I suspect that, at some point in the future, there will be users talking, who will not exist.
1844  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: What happened when Bitcoin is sent to non existed address on: July 27, 2023, 01:17:10 PM
But I don't know of bitcoin address, and I don't think the bitcoin will enter the ungenerated address.
There's no such thing as "ungenerated address". All addresses are generated. What counts as "generated" to you, is an address with a known private key. But they all exist, hence are generated. Even LoyceV's shared "burning address" tool, is actually generating addresses; it just skips the private key part and chooses the RIPEMD-160 hash instead of producing it with some SHA-256 hash of the public key.

All Bitcoin addresses exist, and that's the way you should see it. We just don't know who holds the key for which.
1845  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning network on: July 26, 2023, 04:17:13 PM
If I am using Electrum for lightning payment, is it your coin?
Yes. When using lightning in Electrum, you're actually running a lightning node, therefore it's self-custody. This presentation shows briefly how it works. The tl;dr is that you're not forfeiting the ownership of your coins to some third party, but due to the nature of lightning, the user should pay a watchtower to watch for cheating attempts, unless they're willing to watch it themselves which requires to run the software non-stop.
1846  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which will be best non-KYC exchanger after Ku-coin? on: July 25, 2023, 05:58:24 PM
You either come into business to earn money, or you pretend that you have a lot of moral principles and are left without earnings.
Calm response: I'm not pretending I'm having moral principles. I'm not a hypocrite of that kind. I'm actually living by some morals, lots of which I wouldn't compromise for a short-term profit. While I hadn't considered cryptocurrencies from this perspective before, observing the altcoin industry and recognizing that I don't truly value what I own, getting involved into that market for profit only would be a moral compromise.

But then I suggest that you give up everything altogether, from fiat money, from banking services, because these are also a kind of fraudulent schemes where some are deceived, and others earn money on it.
I mean, completely irrelevant? I cannot control how fiat currency works, nor do I have the expertise to; I'm living in a world where it works as is, and I'm forced to use it. However, I'm definitely not forced to attempt to profit from purposeless, financial schemes.
1847  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which will be best non-KYC exchanger after Ku-coin? on: July 25, 2023, 05:16:00 PM
There are none, with rare exceptions.
I don't want to hold or trade something that has no utility. It's just a principle I live by, where I only want to possess items that truly demonstrate their value and usefulness. This can be extremely challenging sometimes, especially when it comes to things beyond cryptocurrencies. Verifying whether a habit or a product is as useful as I imagine it to be is an ongoing process. It challenges my values and reminds me to prioritize what truly matters every day.

The whole point of the altcoin industry is to force the crowd to buy some kind of shitcoin, while seasoning it with some kind of another legend about utility, breakthrough technology, solving some global problems and other nonsense.
Why would I want to be involved in this fraudulent scheme? Acknowledging it serves no real purpose and is just a scam with fancy-sounding words, making money out of it means being part of the deception too. I believe screwing my morals in such a way is probably one of the last things I would do when I'm in need of money.
1848  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can a person buy a hardware wallet where crypto is ban? on: July 25, 2023, 04:59:12 PM
You can make one yourself, to avoid being caught for buying one. Just buy yourself a Raspberry Pi zero, a WaveShare LCD display, a Pi zero compatible camera, a micro SD and with a little DIY hand-work, you've made a SeedSigner, which if you're asking me, it's better than a hardware wallet as it's really airgapped.

But, true, if it's illegal, better just get yourself an airgapped machine with Electrum (preferably using Tails as it comes pre-installed).
1849  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Lightning Network FAQ on: July 25, 2023, 03:00:51 PM
Simoultaneously, custodial wallets have no problems with routing.
Quite obvious. Large lightning nodes which are the default hubs for custodial wallets have respectable part of the network's funds. Wallet of Satoshi is a good example of a custodial wallet with large capacity; they have 200 BTC, in more than two thousand channels. That's like 4% of the total bitcoins of the network's capacity.

Using Lightning through BlueWallet does not have "remarkably low fees". It was known that it had hidden fees for each LN transaction that would sometimes cost the user high fees than the average, depending on demand and transaction size.
When it did exist, yes, but isn't BlueWallet's hub shut down?

Nevermind.
1850  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which will be best non-KYC exchanger after Ku-coin? on: July 25, 2023, 02:48:20 PM
By the way, by the same principle, one can say that it is impossible to guarantee or advise investing in bitcoin, based only on its past achievements and its growth.
I'm not feeling certain if you really want to know. Every day when I wake up, a thought lingers in my subconscious - a dreadful scenario that could render my wealth worthless. I would never advise anyone to invest in bitcoin unless they are prepared to throw that money in the trash can. For some, it might seem like an unreasonable risk since they lack access to insider information (which is, again, what sets the rules).

However, I can't disregard all the utility it offers, with people using and needing electronic cash. I can't overlook the astonishing facts about anonymous (or pseudonymous) transactions, decentralized money minting, collective transaction processing, Proof-of-Work, etc. It would be unforgivable not to trust my instincts on this one and witness its rise as I had anticipated. Regretting not taking action outweighs the regret of acting.

When it comes to altcoins, I don't see the same potential.
1851  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin self-rating on: July 25, 2023, 02:37:41 PM
So the big question is,  how will you rate yourself since your involvement and interaction with Bitcoin and bitcoin talk as a community,  have you become more financially educated resulting in your consistency in building a financially free future by accumulating Bitcoin and spending less and investing more,  or have you become more Conservative in your approach taking Bitcoin as get a rich quick scheme that will always end you in frustration?
Definitely not the latter.

Financially speaking, I have become more educated. I don't hold any other asset, though. So, my portfolio's worth varies from time to time, according to the price of bitcoin. I wouldn't say bitcoin has taught me to be financially dependent; I think that's rather difficult, and can't come to you without lots of action. No, bitcoin holders from the early days aren't counted.

What I do acknowledge, though, is that bitcoin has given me the interest to study money. As a politically neutral currency, it raises you concerns of whether the financial system is working as envisioned, and pinpoints its flaws.
1852  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which will be best non-KYC exchanger after Ku-coin? on: July 25, 2023, 02:21:38 PM
If several projects failed in the market, this does not mean that now all other projects are at risk.
It does mean that they all have the potential to fail if they share similar properties. For instance, when two dog coins have already failed, it would be foolish to believe that the thousands of other worthless tokens won't experience a similar drop in value. We are all aware that these tokens are not taken seriously; they are simply fabricated, zero-sum financial schemes. Another illustration is the Proof-of-Staked copycat tokens, whose creators aim to generate hype.

You see only negative aspects in altcoins, but I see another good opportunity for earning in altcoins.
I can't, because I don't see good opportunity for earning from gambling either.
1853  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Algorithms used in Bitcoin are expected to be strong until at least 2030 on: July 24, 2023, 08:34:31 PM
By the time ECDSA actually gets broken, there might be more than a few million Bitcoins that are vulnerable still (forgotten or lost used P2PKH, just normal P2PK, etc) . A sufficiently long time for transition would be required, though arguably you're right in a sense that it does rob people of what is rightfully theirs.
There are going to be coins robbed, no doubt. However, I wouldn't take it for granted there will be millions. Sure, there are millions in P2PK, but perhaps they get spent until then; especially after the cryptographic community accepts some quantum safe alternative.

Simple and pure mathematics is what keeps the coins safe
I'm genuinely curious to which math you're referring to. Those I know, which are discrete math and cryptographic-inclusive math, are certainly not pure and simple!  Tongue
1854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Days you need to work your ass at minimum wage for a BTC, by country on: July 24, 2023, 12:48:01 PM
Besides not using that money and living with God knows what as you're saying, you also have to assume that:

  • the minimum wage will not change (lol).
  • you will still be working at the same place (double lol!).
  • the bitcoin price will not change until you manage to accumulate one (triple lol!).

Also, in Greece the minimum wage is 780 EUR, so I'm not quite sure how you calculated 1,018 days. I find more than 1,150.
1855  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wasabi or Samourai ? on: July 24, 2023, 12:26:54 PM
I've always recommended Joinmarket over Whirlpool and Wasabi. Fewer dumb ways to leak your privacy but there are other tradeoffs and isn't the ideal service for inexperienced users.
Wasabi is inferior in privacy than Joinmarket (for obvious reasons), but speaking out of experience with Joinmarket, I've got to mention these two big downsides:

  • Expensive for market takers. The TL;DR of Joinmarket, is that there are always some makers online, so when a user who isn't a whale wants to mix their coins, they don't have to wait, but they have to pay the mining fee for all the makers' inputs. Makers don't pay their inputs, takers do, and when there are 9 to 12 inputs, few of which are theirs, then the cost of coinjoining can become really high.
  • Not exclusive to Joinmarket, but it isn't realistic to be a market maker if you don't own lots of money. Software does include a default of 12.5% chance of ignoring fidelity bonds, but it's really improbable to be picked if you're not going to see this seriously.

I have also talked about this in here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/1506
1856  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is the Exchange Rate of Bitcoin to USD and Other Currencies Determined? on: July 24, 2023, 12:07:28 PM
While decentralized exchange or P2P, the price is only depend on supply and demand.
Actually, even P2P, decentralized exchanges do depend on other price indices, like centralized exchanges'. For example, you can check on Bisq[1]. It fetches the latest price data from various providers once per minute. The more the providers, the less it depends on each one as it calculates the average.

I'm not sure about other currencies but other currencies are pegged to their USD value so basically USD is the only rate we follow for BTC and the other currency just follows the value of USD in their local exchange rate.
Which currencies are "pegged" to their USD value? And what do you mean exactly?

[1] https://bisq.wiki/Bisq_Price_Indices
1857  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Wallet Security on: July 24, 2023, 11:55:44 AM
If you set up a multi-sig wallet online, with all the keys and seed phrase generated and stored online, it is easier for an attacker to steal your funds than when you use a single signature wallet in an open source hardware wallet, or when you set up your own air-gapped single signature wallet.
Yes, but if only one co-signer makes their setup airgapped, it is superior than an airgapped single-sig wallet in terms of security.

One very recommended solution for handling multi-sig wallets is SeedSigner. It lowers the cost of multi-sig security and setup of an airgapped environment. You don't have to carry abandoned computers, and the process of airgapping it is much less complex.
1858  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: A Non-Custodial wallet, Atomic Wallet, being compromised on: July 24, 2023, 11:44:35 AM
I would treat it the same as a centralized exchange or a service that has already been completely compromised.
I'd actually trust a centralized exchange more than that. At least if you register on some popular, regulated exchange you know that you're sending your coins to some licensed company. Sure, it can go bankrupt or/and hacked, but at least you know it isn't your fault. There is no way to know with certainty you made some mistake here during wallet creation. The software is closed-source; the developers can rip you off, blame it to you, and you could have nothing to say in your defense.
1859  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: What happened when Bitcoin is sent to non existed address on: July 23, 2023, 09:18:47 PM
By the way, if you want to burn coins, just create an address and don't save private keys.
That's probably the best way to burn coins without anyone knowing you've burned them, but it's quite the worst way to do coin burning in general. As already said, these coins aren't actually burned. Spending them would require finding HASH160* collisions; they are perfectly existent with current rules (which have no business to change), even though there isn't evidence of feasibly finding such collisions.

If you want to burn coins, and be certain that they aren't spendable by some future, crazy-genius guy who solved some old, abandoned mathematical problem, just utilize OP_RETURN.



* HASH160(x) is RIPEMD-160(SHA256(x))
1860  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which will be best non-KYC exchanger after Ku-coin? on: July 23, 2023, 09:04:27 PM
If the user has studied the market well
That's the problem I'm trying to point out. The user can't just study the market well, because they can't reach everything. There's private data that is inaccessible, and owned by the few big folks who do the manipulation. Unless you don't think that info is very important for the user (and neglecting it would make the study "well") then they can never be confident they've studied properly.

By the way, I'm assuming the user can perfectly filter public information, which is also not true. "Filtering" is subjective, because different users will prioritize different parameters that affect the price.

I already talked about this in another topic and drew a diagram of the typical behavior of an altcoin
This argument holds as much water as the S2F, or the one which says we will have bull markets every 4 years. There's no evidence other than "look in the chart, it will probably repeat".
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