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1841  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: December 21, 2016, 01:30:33 PM
   Its easier to learn to gamble then to trade. That is the main difference here, trading is not for everyone, special skills needed for that. There is some gamble games where we need to use our brain's, but most games are lucky games. With trading as I saw people relay on information's.
   I learn about trading for some time, and its not simple at all. Its much easier to bet on what ever then to choose right coin and moment for trading.
exactly trading always needs hard research and good assessment unlike gambling most of the games are base on luck so we don't need to rely with anything aside from sports game and poker that you need extra knowledge in order for you to win but mostly we are also relying with our luck in every game we play.

Practically this is why gambling is much more popular than trading. A gambler does not need to research how to play a game extensively to be able to play it. But theoretically they will not really win the game of gambling because they don't study how to really play the game in depth. Also, even if you study how a game is in gambling the chances are still the same no matter what. Unlike in trading you have the option know research and lower your chances of losing.
1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 21, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
Because you can 'possibly' earn quick and easy money and not have to wrok. Bums like not working so tell themselves they will continue to try and chase their winnings. They all lose and cry in the end.

Indeed the fact is that you can addicted too it and that it is addicted due to the fact its enjoying and that you can earn some nice money.

Well thats a fact to people nowadays. People nowadays really like to earn money without pushing or putting efforts to it, in short an era in which people are bums and lazy who just open their palms for their money. Gambling online is a good example of a way to earn money without making you sweat. Many people really is addicted to it, either their making money for their future, or getting back for their laid-long-plan revenge.

I think its just so bad from people that they are thinking they can make some fast money with gambling, it will only get you in problems and its addicted and you get greedy from it.


The thing in gambling is that people do get addicted because they think they can get rich quick. Another thing is that since it is quite easy to gamble, no knowledge required from most games, they think that they can win some quick bucks from just spinning a wheel. But in reality they don't even look at how things work in gambling and in the end they get addicted and lose everything.
1843  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: December 21, 2016, 03:07:34 AM
Encourage local businesses by explaining to them the benefits of using bitcoins. Businesses might not accept bitcoins unless there is some people will use bitcoins to purchase their goods or services.
The better strategy would be to convince people/customers to use bitcoins. Businesses just go with the flow of the customers. If they see that customers use bitcoins to pay for goods or they see potential from these customers to use bitcoins as their payment method. If the businesses were the ones who adopt bitcoin then they will just get tired getting people to use bitcoins.
1844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a good modified martingale strategy? on: December 21, 2016, 02:30:48 AM
Yeah, try to use the search function instead of posting right away a new thread.

But regards the question, there are modified martingale strategies out there. But there are no "good" strategies out there. All, and I mean all, gambling systems will lose against the house and you can't do anything about it. In the end every system will lose. Check out the site of the wizardofodds. They test a lot of systems there. They even wage against the gambling system creator if their gambling system wins after N-number of tries they will pay the creator.
1845  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: get your christmas prize NOW. on: December 21, 2016, 02:16:07 AM

Hehe "Prize", which you have to pay to get. Pathetic.

Indeed this is a stupid prize. For sure there is really no prize to give out. There is just a ponzi scheme waiting to unfold! OP, if you are really running a promotion, please stop promoting a ponzi. You will not be able to trick anyone here on the forums anymore. I think everybody has knowledge already what a ponzi is. You might be able to trick those newbies that just came here but generally it's a lost cause.
1846  Economy / Gambling / Re: ODD or EVEN win 185% | Provably on: December 21, 2016, 02:04:38 AM
You charge a 15% house edge in your game. Why would anyone want to play in your casino when we can just play in other casinos that has better house edge (extremely better, sometimes as low as less than 1%). Also, your site seems shady and not well made. You should just invest more on development of your website and comeback with a new and improved one.
1847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If bitcoin prices rise up to $100,000, will you still gamble using bitcoins? on: December 21, 2016, 01:50:31 AM
I would be finally rich when bitcoin hits 100,000 dollars, some say rich people like to gamble, in my case i would rather spend it on a nice house and live a stress free lifestyle with no work, commuting and other bullshit. I hate working and I hate having to commute everyday. I hope BTC rises to the sky soon so I can abandon this boring torture of a lifestyle otherwise i'll just blow my brains off when I turn 40.

Good luck with that. Invite me to your funeral. If you're just waiting and not doing anything then you would most likely not be rich by 40. Another thing is that your response is not responsive to the question. You replied to an non-existent questions which is "what would you do when the prices raised to $100,000"

When that time comes that the price of bitcoins will be $100,000 will you still gamble in casinos and sports books?

If the price of bitcoin is $100,000

0.001BTC/1mBTC/100,000Satoshi = $100
0.0001BTC/0.1mBTC/10,000Satoshi = $10
0.00001BTC/0.01mBTC/1,000Satoshi = $1

1 Satoshi = $0.001

Of course people will still gamble. It will be the perfect time to spend your bitcoins now especially for some people who have waited for so long before enjoying their coins. The better question would be how big will the casinos and sportsbooks become if bitcoin reaches $100k?

True, those waiting for it to happen will indeed try to gamble some of that money they waited for so long to grow. But the casinos might run away the money they have in their casinos. When it multiplies by 100 times the amount currently for sure a lot of casino owners will be tempted to find an escape strategy.
1848  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 🎁 🎁 0.01 DAILY LOTTERY(FREEROLL senior member+)🎁 🎁 🎁 on: December 21, 2016, 12:22:36 AM
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1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you gamble your (or your child's) school fund? on: December 20, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
Well, I would say that I did this back in 2014. My mother already deposited all the money I need to pay for school for the year and also some allowance for my daily needs. I gambled around half of it on NBA odds. I lost that half. So I lived on really cheap food and really avoided buying anything. I even tried to avoid buying things I need like books just to save money. Was a gruesome year for me, luckily I got through. Wouldn't do that again.

How bout you guys, would you do it?

first of all you should always gamble with money that you can afford to lose. it is like the first rule of gambling that everyone should know before going it. casinos should have this as warning on their first page, like what cigarette boxes have a warning about lung cancer.

also, sorry to say this but only a gambling addict loses all or even half his whole money on gambling and it shows you lack control.

although it is good that you already figured this out and apparently stopped yourself before a disaster. and that is your luck right there. from now on try to only gamble with small amounts that you can afford to lose.

Well, I was young, wild and free at the time. I didn't know better. It's these experiences that makes us who we are today. Now, I don't gamble too much. I just play for fun and just a few dollars and faucet dusts. I wouldn't lose more than a hundred dollars any more at a time. So I would say I totally learn my lesson there. I would not like to go back to eating instant noodles on a daily basis.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 20, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
Gambling Can't help in your life but investment and trading can so turn your gambling into trading and you'd be able to maximize your income and have a better life.
I think it depends on your gambling strategy, If you have good experience in gambling then you can play gambling and can make good money more than trading and investment in other place, and so it can really helpful for you in your life. But If you have no experience in gambling then gambling is one of the most risky investment for anyone.
I agree that pro gamblers will make more money in gambling and they will lead their life with this gambling money. But it is the very risky method we don't know when we win or when we lose. Here the losing percentage is very high. But investing and trading is not like that if we follow proper method means we can expect profit from these two methods.
i don't think so, the only scenario that can make someone feel helped by gambling are when they win an unexpected big prize lottery or a slots jackpot and they just stop play to enjoying the winning . that scenario are so rare happened, that's why i wouldn't call gambling could help most people life.

That and also help people who hard bored! Gambling was intended to be a past time and not for earnings. So I don't think you should gamble for the purpose of earning and making a profit out of it. If you aim to make it as a living, tough luck, you won't make a living out of gambling. Gambling will make a living out of you! So don't even think gambling will help your life unless you want to entertain yourself.
1851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Would you gamble your (or your child's) school fund? on: December 20, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
Well, I would say that I did this back in 2014. My mother already deposited all the money I need to pay for school for the year and also some allowance for my daily needs. I gambled around half of it on NBA odds. I lost that half. So I lived on really cheap food and really avoided buying anything. I even tried to avoid buying things I need like books just to save money. Was a gruesome year for me, luckily I got through. Wouldn't do that again.

How bout you guys, would you do it?
1852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If bitcoin prices rise up to $100,000, will you still gamble using bitcoins? on: December 20, 2016, 09:45:01 AM
I'm not really a gambling supporter , In fact I'm totally against gambling but If that scenario ever happens , I don't think anyone would keep gambling , at least not in a website ... people may find it hard to trust a gambling website for such a big amounts and the higher bitcoin goes , the higher chances of "we got hacked" scenarios coming out . (Include both exchanges and gambling services).

I agree with this. The price of bitcoins would really turn those gambling sites to scam sites for sure if it does happen. Also, at those prices, a minimum bet of 1 satoshi would be big. The price increase is not just about the value being the same. There are quite a lot of other effects that would happen if the prices increase to this much.
1853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Highest profit on Bitcoin Gambling? on: December 20, 2016, 08:56:40 AM
If you look at prime dice some user named hufflepuff earned over 2000 bitcoin and i do think that is the biggest win in the history of gambling. But there are news that he exploited a weakness in their system and so is the reason he earned that much.
Yes, hufflepuff was cheated that such huge amount, we can not call it he won from gambling Wink Even though he cheated that amount, it is stillnot the highest/biggest profit on bitcoin history, i believe Nakowa still at number 1 until now when he won more than 4000 BTC back then

Wow, that's a lot of money he cheated. He could have stolen that amount maybe if did not go up to 2,000 bitcoins. This is really scary to know that there are better hackers than developers of online casinos. So probably investing in casinos is much more riskier if we know that they could be hacked in the future. Another wow on Nakowa's win. 4,000 bitcoin winnings is no joke. That's a lot of coins!
1854  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: ExtraMatrix1x6 on: December 20, 2016, 07:01:49 AM
This kinds of shit should be placed in the trash immediately. The problem with this section is that Mods don't moderate it and these kinds of people keep on posting these kind of scams here waiting for people to follow them into despair and misery for investors. OP this forum is not so gullible for you to trick with these kinds of crap.
1855  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 🎁 🎁 0.03 DAILY LOTTERY(FREEROLL senior member+)🎁 🎁 🎁 on: December 20, 2016, 06:44:31 AM
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1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 20, 2016, 06:27:23 AM
well i gamble for profit, i don't think that gambling is very fun when you lose

It depends on how much you lose.  People who are enjoying gambling are only playing with the money that is free.  Meaning it is not tied to any expenses like households budget or bill payments.  Instead of watching movies, going out with a friend or spending money on an outing, people play gambling for fun.  Their mindset while playing in a Casino is the same as spending money for entertainment.  So they don't mind whether they lose or win since it is actually a budget for entertainment.
there is people like that honestly rich people are same that they are gamble and not thinking about their lose because they are just gamble for fun.. they can afford what their lose ..and for poor people they are targeting to earn and both entertainment or the other are just targeting profit..
If you win in gambling for me like i said and other it is good to spend your winning profit with your friends and family..
I really hope all gamblers can play gambling for fun, however it cannot be because we do have different financial standing in life. Rich has the privilege to enjoy their money because they work hard to reach that level and they are just spending a little portion of their money to be entertain.

While poor people, are seeking for miracle to win in gambling and hoping their luck could change their world.

So true. People who gamble or bet on lotto are waiting and hoping for a miracle that would in the end change their lives. But most of the time these people just get more buried in debt than really gain anything from gambling. So I think they should just work hard and play a tinsy winsy amount of money. Gambling cannot solve their problems it'll probably make it worse. For the rich people gambling is for fun. If they lose, it would even dent their wallets.
1857  Economy / Speculation / Re: When to expect the next big drop in BTC? on: December 19, 2016, 12:43:43 PM
expect the next big drop of bitcoin when it reach the $1000 barrier because I know there's a lot of users that will cash out their bitcoin because they reach their target so if it reach $1000 barrier per bitcoin it will drop down I think that will be a big drop down because almost half of the user will gonna cash it out because that's a huge money compare to the last year price of bitcoin
Yeah I'm agree that many users are waiting for the price if 1000$ per 1 BTC to cash out. I'm one of them and I don't wish to skip such a good chance. And logically it will follow the drop of bitcoin's price. But I doubt that in this case it will fall to 500-600$ maybe it will drop to 800$ but not lower.

It just depends on the moods of the large players. If they are willing to push the price further than just reaching the $1000 level, then we can expect them to support the price all the way to flat $900's as that will give people a space of around $100 to cash out and dump their coins. If they don't want to support the price, which would cost them a decent amount of buying power, then we shouldn't be surprised to fall back to $800 prices, and perhaps back to $700 prices. Don't forget that for us small traders it's easy to dump like 10% at once without it doing any harm to the markets. But when large players sell thousands of coins at once, it leaves a serious scar on the market. But then again, this is just wild speculation...
If it does happen that these big players dump their loads of bitcoins then let's all be ready to sell too. Then when it drops at around $600 - $700, we should sell everything and buy bitcoins. For sure, that will make it shoot up again back to where it dropped from. That would make us profit too, if the prices does drop so much from where it is.
1858  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Get 10 MH/s free cloud mining power - No Investment on: December 19, 2016, 12:13:11 PM
I'd like a PM as well.

But I am predicting the contents of the PM would be a cloud mining site that is in reality a fake one. For sure this is a ponzi scheme. A fake cloud mining that offers a stable income  without fluctuations (which isn't true in real mining by the way). But, I may be wrong so, I'd still want to see that PM.
1859  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 19, 2016, 10:40:38 AM
biggest mistake from me is using bots and thinking they will keep winning.. better use your luck there is no strategy to win all the time Smiley

Me too. I used to keep betting on auto bet or use bots to bet. In the end I just lost a lot more than what I won. I thought I would win a lot because of bots and left it over night to gamble. In the morning everything was gone. So, I regret gambling with bots. It's quite better to play using random numbers and playing manually.
1860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What gambling method are you using for Dice? on: December 19, 2016, 10:25:38 AM
I usually martin gale with x3 multiplier. Its not that effective but fun to play. I don't really gambling much so it's just a past time when I do it. I just want to see how long the martin gale will last. I just use 1mBTC to gamble martin gale and I just use 1 satoshi as my base bet. Usually it last around a day or two but it doesn't really earn anything.
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