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1841  Economy / Economics / Re: What will you do if bitcoin crash? on: February 16, 2023, 09:54:22 PM
If bitcoin crash today, what will be your fate? Poor or rich. Most people on the platform have submitted all their life savings to bitcoin investment. There was once a man in my area who sold his house to invest in a local platform called BARAZAR in 4 months missive the so-called BARAZAR was shoot down and now he does not have a cottage. So I ask again if bitcoin crashed today what will be your description rich or poor?
You wont be poor if you have invested on the money you can afford to lose.
You wont be poor as long you dont realize those losses on your portfolio
You wont be poor as long you dont panic sell.


On the time that you had decided on making up some investment towards this market then you should make yourself that embrace on things that might encounter along the way specially with volatility.
There's no way that we could really be able to know on what would be ahead.If ever Bitcoin would crash today then i would definitely be finding some sources for me to accumulate more.
As long the demand and interest is intact on bitcoin then chances or tendency for some recovery is really that likely.So better buy on the bottom as always.
1842  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Looking for Investors for my Upcoming PvP crypto Casino on: February 16, 2023, 09:26:03 PM
Hi, Im a 18 year old owner of a upcoming PvP crypto Casino, the casino is almost finished, but we are still looking for investors for the hotwallet and other costs like 2 new game modes we are planning. This might seems sketchy because im new to this forum but im known on another forum (ogu.gg) will confirm it if you are interested. If you are interested in Investing contact me on discord or telegram for more information about the project. By investing in our Project you will receive an amount of % from the casino. We already raised 800$ but are still looking for investors to launch as soon as possible.

Telegram: @vilely Discord: vilely#5984
Im not saying that you are lying but providing out some screenshot of some profile on other platform doesnt really increase out the trust that you are really that needing or something that make people believe that

all of the things you do say is legit.You didnt even bother on having a screenshot of the said casino at least.Provide more solid proof like some admin panel screenshot which would coincide with the gambling site that you are talking but in overall when it comes to money or something like this, then it would really be that hard to get some investors online or randomly because its something that
cant really be  that just possible most of the time due to some trust issues.Lots of scammers are lurking around.
1843  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: February 15, 2023, 11:39:00 PM
Over the time, I've seen people wanting to go into trading because they feel or think is a get rich quick scheme but get so disappointed along the process because the result they get isn't what was expected.
Trading is a very lucrative business but also a very risky business as well and as such should be done with so much caution.
What would be your advice for those wanting to trade as a newbie?
Yes, trading involves great risks, but it is a great way to achieve good profits if the trader is patient, willing to learn, and has a positive outlook on the future in the long term in his journey and if the newbie trader can gain sufficient experience and develop his skills by creating a demo trading account on one of the platforms that are free of risks and he experimented with the functions of the trading system and got acquainted with them, and if he was able to determine his own trading system or strategy after he finished his learning period and expanded his perceptions and was able to do research and technical and fundamental analysis well and was able to control his emotions outside the market and make risk management a basic principle for him to protect himself from large losses and he was able to know how and where to enter the market, I believe this newbie trader will reap a lot of gains in the future.
Greater risk but better rewards as we do all know.We do have different types for us to deal or choose with.
-Spot
-Futures
-Derivatives
etc....

When you are just still a noob then its not bad to make some demo account and trying out to familiarize yourself into those terms and other things which you do need to be aware of.
Trading is risky but very rewarding on the time that you do have a good hold of it.Of course it wont really be that simple on making yourself that sustainable because this is where everyone is really been doing on
which they are really that trying out their best to be profitable.This market is unpredictable and very volatile on which it would really be just that normal that risk is high but if you are really
that wise and careful then making money wont be that hard.
1844  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: February 15, 2023, 10:59:15 PM
This is normal in gambling, it doesn't matter whether the fund amount is big or small. Maybe the gambler now realizes how risky it was to bet such a large amount. There is no such thing as low risk in gambling and this gambler's loss will warn many more gamblers to make decisions without being overconfident. After seeing this loss, I was horrified to see how important it is to know the risks involved before making any financial decision.
1% or 0.1% is just the same.  Kiss

As long the count doesnt go to 0% then there's always a chance of losing no matter how small or minimal it would be.This is why we shouldnt really be that
too confident and believe about sure bets because it would really be a total disaster of your funds.Plus its never been worth on risking on a bet having the odds of 1.01 below.
If you do have lots of millions to be burned then go ahead but if you are risking a huge portion of your money then its a suicide.
1845  Economy / Speculation / Re: How was your belief formed? on: February 15, 2023, 10:18:25 PM
when talking about our money and investing , we must always put trust into that matter  no matter what comes out because this will also build your confidence and skills. boosting your inner belief and idea and going to progress and success.
that is what motivates us into investing and not negativities .
It's true what you say, the trust that is formed will produce results that make us more productive in investing, something we cannot see but we can be sure of it will move by itself in our mindset and heart, the more we come into contact with bitcoin every Day by day we are increasingly curious about what bitcoin can give us and that curiosity makes us understand many things about bitcoin which encourages us to have even better skills to increase our investment in bitcoin. But to be honest, I personally also sometimes feel doubtful for some time but I'm always reminded of the initial purpose of investing in bitcoin and why I believe in it.
Doubts are normal but the moment that we fully understand how it works, it definitely changes to positivity. As long as we have an interest to something like Bitcoin, we never stop doing research and do found why we have to trust this kind of investment and can make an argument against our friends. As we have a solid purpose of being, no way we could stop until we reach our goal and to prove to the people around us that we are not a failure and to show them that we are not wrong in what we say.
Positivity + risk management would really be formed and enhanced out.This is why just let your experience and deal handling would do the rest considering that it would be enhancing up your skills and awareness

for anything that you are dealing with.Investing isnt something simple that could anyone be able to handle out because there are really that risk which you should need to consider out.
We are all started on being a noob but later on when experience and awareness do able to attain then we would really be molding ourselves to be more better compared on yesterdays.
Important thing is that we do continue on living and dont easily give up if ever huge challenges would really be coming on your way.
1846  Economy / Gambling / Re: What else should an established crypto casino add? on: February 15, 2023, 09:51:49 PM
Let me also cheap in this new idea of using a bot notification just like that we often use on telegram for mentions and posts from the forum, the casino can adopt such system to always notify gambler on interesting offers, winning and special features they have developed, the kind of experience every gambler will always want is the one that will always involve introducing something new for them to enjoy.
We already have those email letters on which it would be sent out on your email on what you have used when you had registered on the site or you could really be able to read up some notifications
which i do see it is becoming standard which it is really just that there are really gamblers who do really just simply ignore these stuffs which turns out to be casual.
Casinos that we are seeing today does offer the best things that they can and we gamblers or community do really love to see something new which hadnt
been seen on this market.

I don't use that nmoticion bot, I don't like to saturate the telegram because it drains my phone quickly, also I don't know how they could program so that they notify us all of this, each casino notifies through its group and that seems very tedious to me because In these groups they write and write and I don't find interesting things, it should only be telegram channels, and I am also very pro towards emails because it seems lighter and more comfortable, I know that everyone has their tastes, but having saturated telegram is somewhat annoying.


Well it may not be the perfect idea here but using a telegram bot too has it own advantages aside the regular ones we had from the email used in registration, as regards your own issue danadc concerning telegram draining your cell with lots of updates, i think the best idea to use is to reduce the numbers of bits you've opted for and also mute some of their notifications, in case of the ones you don't want to quit, reduce the amount of background opening apps as well to help achieve more success in this, telegram has it own way of bringing notifications to users in a unique way other than the ones we commonly received through mails.
Speaking about app notifications which we could eventually able to edit it or in control whether on the app settings literally or would really be tweaked out on your mobile phone settings which if you are really

that mindful about battery consumption or effects.Whether you are accepting notification on emails or on an app like telegram then it wont really be costing you an arm and leg on accessing those if you are
tending to check into something.There are really just that people who do really love on automating things and make it more even convenient even into that most extremists manner.

We are all seeing all possible application and gimmicks that we do have currently in the market just like others been saying.
1847  Economy / Economics / Re: Can one achieve financial independence through crypto currency? on: February 15, 2023, 08:38:04 PM
The popularity of crypto currencies has been on the rise in recent years and many people are drawn to them as a means to achieveing goal of financial freedom.
Additionally, the decentralization and global nature of crypto currencies like Bitcoin, Ethereum and others, have made them an attractive option for those who want to take control their financial future and want to avoid traditional banks and financial institutions. They can also provide hedge against inflation and currency devaluation.

Given these factors, the dream of financial freedom can come true by using crypto currency?
I would say having bitcoin will make you richer if price went high in future and that's the case we call financial freedom if I am not wrong.

Not many just everyone is running everyday to achieve their financial goals and it varies from one to another, hoarding bitcoin is one way to do it but to make all this happen we need to know how to monetize our skills and market it to wider audience further gradually.
You would get rich but depending on how much you had invested but im not really that too positive considering that we arent be able to see huge multipliers of your investment with bitcoin.For some percentage then

yes but for how many folds then it wouldn't.This is why people would really be tending to touch up into altcoin because they do really mind off on getting able to hit multiple folds of their investment and this is why
people do choose up this path.You could really achieve financial independence through crypto if you would really be able to hit the right project.

Its not really that simple though because it would really be requiring that extreme analysis and of course the risk taking you should be doing.
1848  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: February 15, 2023, 08:32:58 PM
I don't think that somebody who owns this cashino platform which I believe that is the oldest casino platform in this forum he still wants to continue the signature campaign on this phone because since it had issue with some people that is not a massive pad or massive negative tag
Not oldest but can be said one of the old ones that's still existing in today's time. But as discussed in the past pages of this thread, it's better to remain the thread active related only to the casino matters and not with campaigns.

Correct. Customer service is there and they're definitely responsive. I've done a quick test and just asked them directly as posted above
Then that only means that they're still in good shape after the issues that has been brought here related to the withdrawals. So the people that has been left with responsibility to keep the site running is doing it well, I guess.

Absolutely correct mate cause we all know that signature campaigns problem of this casino is already been solve so for now and we must forget about that ,and focus on the casino itself .cause they create this thread to give some information and opinions to other user here in community and not all in campaign. But honestly this casino and the sister casino itself has done many good things before but for now there a little bit problem and we don't know yet if will continue to manage and re build this casino or not.
Rebuild this casino?
Are there any problems?

If you do tend to check and look their platform which it do really looks okay and fine which i dont know on why people do keep on saying that there's something wrong
with their site.Everything is smooth and there were no complaints here on their ann thread.I dont know if there are some issues raised silently but so
far there were no issues as of this moment.
1849  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Altcoin hold, sell or trade?? on: February 14, 2023, 11:49:21 PM
My opinion, Bitcoin all time saving mode is the best way. Some time when bitcoin price up then sell and when price down then buy is the best decision.  This method all time not working for trade. Many time i noticed when i sell bitcoin or altcoin sell since then price grow up and up. And when I buy bitcoin or altcoin then price low day by day. specialy, altcoin hold, sell and trade big loss. 4 years ago few coins i hold for future. now this coin price few value or most of coin value is zero. Few coin trade, there too big loss. past year in the case of 1 coin invest $1000, this coin price today zero.

Now

*Hold
*Sell
*Trade
Looking forward to the opinion of the experienced.
This is why it is really that important you do set up goals or targets on your altcoin holding.When you do diversify your portfolio on altcoins then you should really be aware that you are really that spreading off the risk because we know that we are scattering our capital which means that you are really that spreading the risks but of course same goes or likewise when it comes to earning opportunity.If you are really that targetting on accumulating bitcoin as much as you could then you would really be focusing on it and wouldnt really be minding on spending it out to make out some conversion against other altcoins.
So its a personal choice on the time you do make out such step whether you would really be diving in or would really be skipping out the opportunity that you are seeing.
1850  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚖️ Crypto Gambling Foundation ⚖️ - Fair Gambling For All on: February 14, 2023, 10:40:52 PM
Op if really you do what you have said, I will be very happy from time being in the forum, I noticed that most of the casinos in the space have abused cryptocurrency by different means. The worst of them all is the one that they are not allowing winners of their games to withdraw their wins. If a gambler deposited money your casino and he wins, allow him to withdraw his wins why asking too much questions and at the end they would not pay him probably because he did a mistake in a document. If you allow him to deposit also allow him to withdraw whatever amount the person wins.
This is only happening into those non popular sites or platforms or gambling sites that we do have in the market but if you do stick around into those sites which are known and popular then it is really unlikely to happen and its true that whenever someone hits up some jackpot or get some huge multiplier then this is where questions been raised up and requirements which it might really be resulting into holding up your winnings which do really sucks as a winner.You cant assure whether you would really be getting your winnings as long you cant be able to provide on whats been asked then risks is always there.
There would be no assurance and this is why its better to stick on whats currently the best out there.
1851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you consider spreading FUD to be unethical? on: February 14, 2023, 09:29:17 PM

Do you consider this FUD-spreading unethical or do "shaky hands" get what they deserve?

I think sometimes fud can be used as a business strategy to get more cheaper price when weaker hands panick and hands off their holding. It may not be unethical in this aspect because it wasn't a threat but a analytical advise open to acceptance or rejection. This is what whales do to get the demand dropping and if demand drop then the price will also fall, it is just a business strategy and not unethical.
Unethical on the sense that it is really that deceiving people but its true and i do agree on what you had said about an analytical advise which could really be neither be accepted or rejected basing up on communities decision and approach with those fuds that had been scattered.
For those people who had been on this market for lots of years then these kind of things turns out to be a part of this market on which lots of issues had been thrown and lots of positivity could really be in involved
which it would really be a mix up of two.
This is what makes things even more harder for you to make out decisions because when we do speak about fundamentals then it isnt always that effective and could be
rejected out most of the time.
1852  Economy / Gambling / Re: New casino BTC game development on: February 14, 2023, 08:48:14 PM
When it comes to business venture then we do know that having an online casino isnt something a dirt cheap type of investment on which you could really say that its not for everyone and they would really be that not able to launch one if they wanted to.We've seen several casinos that had failed out on the time that they had launched which its no surprise that if people or the community wouldnt find out something
that interesting then they wont really be that attracted to it which means that they would definitely fail and would die right away.We've seen different methods and gimmicks that we do have
but we are still finding and looking for something interesting and unique specially on gambling space.
It doesn't always need to be costly. If you have a talent in coding then you can just code your own casino platform. We can also market it with minimal cost and the rest can just be done for free by us by using the forum and social media sites. For the casino bankroll, it doesn't need to be big as well as casino is always known to win at all times.

If you lack some of the talents mentioned above then you might be needing more money to hire people to do the job for you. In any kind of business, I think luck is also one of the recipes that is needed in order to be successful. That is why you notice that some still fails even if they already have what it takes to develop a business.
Though opening a casino may be a very rewarding business enterprise, it is crucial to first research the associated expenses and learn the necessary skills. While I agree that coding skills may significantly cut down on the expense of developing a unique casino platform, I believe that a solid grounding in marketing and an awareness of client acquisition strategies is also necessary. It's crucial to know the market and the competitors before plunging into social media and forums as a means of spreading the word and building a community of players.

A healthy bankroll is just as crucial to the success of a casino as knowledge of programming languages and marketing strategies. It doesn't have to be a huge sum, but having some savings can help you ride out market fluctuations. Even if you can't rule out the role of chance in business, you can improve your odds by honing your abilities and planning ahead. Keep in mind that each new business endeavor requires much preparation and study.
Or simply tells that there are lots of factors which would really be needing up to consider before you would be running a gambling company on which it isnt really that bad if you do have that coding or programming skills but we do know the fact that there are other factors which do really need to consider because this would really be that crucial when it comes on running a business.You cant really just be able to focus on one thing alone but would rather be needing to see on other angles as well to have an effective way on handling out a business.This is why lots had failed because they arent that capable on doing so.
Its not bad to try but you would really be able to find for yourself on whats lacking.
1853  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading addiction, are you coping? on: February 14, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
I read a news yesterday about a Spanish rehab center that is called 'The Balance', a Switzerland-founded wellness center, located in Spain. The Rehab center helps in treating of alcohol, drugs and behavioral health addictions. Recently it is adding trading addiction to its list and I was surprised to see that. You can read more about it:

The rehabilitation center cited estimates that about 1% of cryptocurrency traders will develop an "extreme" addiction to crypto trading.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/spanish-rehab-center-adds-crypto-trading-addiction-to-services-list

I think it would be perfect to bring this trading discussion. Are you addicted to trading? I am thinking that making profit from trading or making losses, there is a chance that some traders are addicted to trading. What are you doing naturally to stay away from trading addiction?

If our practice of trading here in cryptocurrency always gives us income, it's no wonder that I will become an addict. But if you often don't get income from crypto trading I don't think you can become addicted to it.

    But you can be a long-term holder if you know that you can earn a lot from it and that depends on you holding it for a long time like bitcoin and you can save a lot, it's that simple, right?
Yes, it's true, it all depends on each of us. Trading can be one of the best methods of mental training you can get in life. You learn patience, discipline, and persistence the hard way, every day. Well, except for market closes. The obsession in clicking buy/sell buttons is an addiction, but the obsession in improving one's skills, mental attributes and controlling one's emotions will eventually lead to success.
If ever this one is really legitimately be considered to be an addiction specially on trading then i could say that this type of addiction is something that could really give out advantage for you to have a life which

you could able to take advantage considering that trading skills isnt something that could really be acquired by anybody in a short span of time.We do know on what are the opportunities that it could give once we do able to take a good grasps of it.We cant really be just that too in a rush when it comes on acquiring these skills considering that it cant really be done in short time.
IF ever is someone does have the problem about trading addiction then i dont see for it to be a cons but rather it is really that beneficial instead.
1854  Economy / Gambling / Re: Researching for Upcoming Game on: February 14, 2023, 07:54:59 PM
We can not avoid the fact that one a gambler saw a new casino then the curiosity will showed up and then try that new casino if there are many new games or what are the platform and offer. If a gambler found a good and trusted casino who offered a good amount if you they win then for sure they will choose that casino. Cause every gambler has a decision to choose for his/her game.

There will be new casino coming up every now and then which may offer new feature and attractive promotions to attract the gamblers.
Usually, gamblers are tempted by the bonus and promotions offered by the new casinos and they tend to deposit at those sites.
I am not saying that we should not deposit or play at the new site but my point of view is that this can be risky as not all the gambling sites are made with good intentions. Sometimes casino owners make a site only to scam people.

Personally, i will wait for reviews from other gamblers about the site and only if there are positive sentiments about the site, I will try with a small amount of money. Maybe due to this delay, i may miss some of the early bird offers but i am satisfied that my money is not at a risk.
This is as it should be, our approach could be completely different if in this market the number of scammers was low, but since this is not the circumstances we have to face and there are scammers everywhere we cannot try new casinos just like that, we need to wait and read the reviews of those that were brave enough to try those new casinos, and if their experiences are positive then we may try those new casinos with very low amounts of money and find out if we like them.
When as new casino had been launched then testing it out directly would really be depending on you but it is really just that common sense that you should really be observant on times like this on which you would really be that needing to see whether they are worth for you to invest on or would really be rather wait for someone to confirm that it was legit and paying but of course these things cant really be determined
in short time which means you should patiently wait up.Also, we arent that dumb on not to notice on what are the sites which are really that looks suspicious or something that you cant
trust of on just looking with their own design and overall user interface.It impossible that you wouldnt be able to point it out.
1855  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: February 12, 2023, 10:33:44 PM
It's never advisable to invest on bitcoin with loan money, investing on bitcoin is like taking a journey that you have no idea of where it's leading to but you just take it anyway and that's the more reasons it doesn't have to be a loan money. Even if it's your own personal money it should be what you're okay to go with if it didn't go as planned .
Exactly.
You have no idea where it's going to take us and the same goes with the activity that you have bought it with the use loaned money. Do not take loans when you're investing in bitcoin.
Please, people that have been putting it on their minds, that's not a great idea to begin with your journeys into bitcoin investing because that's not going to work.
Simply there's no assurance because there's no such thing about sure profit or making income with crypto investment and even on Bitcoin.It wont really be giving out guarantees even if its the top coin in the market.

If you did make out some consideration on taking a loan just for you to invest with Bitcoin then its your choice but make yourself that fully aware thats not how thing goes or works.If you do have other sources on which you can rely on and you could pay the loan without needing those bitcoin profits then go ahead because if you've been depending on it then it would really be just putting you into that bad position.
Never ever consider on taking a loan for you to invest with crypto in overall, it doesnt really give out any assurances.
1856  Economy / Gambling / Re: STARTING OWN CRYPTO GAMBLING SITE on: February 12, 2023, 04:18:22 PM
i have two very good domains and im trying to collect as much info as i can  about opening crypto gaming website that not require kyc and makes instant withdrawals.
First i was thinking about bitcoin crash game only - like bustabit but better, like adding bonuses and more crypto deposit and withdrawal options, more modem UI, But since im not a developer and can't write anything i want "like wake up in the morning and oh let's write best crypto exchange app" haha ,so i have to buy ready made script or hire developer and it would cost me thousands if not more

Later i stated to think about full casino scrip like win5x, but why my casino would be better than others? 0 reasons why. even Spribe Sales said that aviator game cost 5000eur + 3000eur every month, but casinos like cloudbet have 100s of these 3rd games, so that means to have some of these evolution, bgaming games i need to have prepared at least 150k usd + monthly payments ? i would prefer 0 monthly fee, just revenue % share with them
 Shocked

Simply that you cant really be having those things that you do have in mind, come to think that you would really be needing up to pay for those providers or shall we say those monthly payments as part of expenses.
You cant really have that way on what you are thinking or preferring.When you are planning some crash games then aside from bustabit then we do have lots, your idea had already been saturated which means that
it is really that available on the market or not something new which means potential customers are less.

Cloudbet like? or any other. then it would really be a tough competition.Getting some part or on having that market share on which most casino platforms are really that thriving to achieve
or attain for.There's no way that you could go the easy and cheapest way.
1857  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your successes over the past 5 years on: February 11, 2023, 08:39:15 PM
Currently, the market does not show a good price movement, and of course, we know how volatile it is, so better to make a plan even though it's on the lower of the support to ensure you can prevent the possible losses increase. If you have the chance for a token or asset accumulation, do as possible, it's for a good long run in the future. Currently, it's my 2nd year in the crypto space, and for me, it's all going well because of having proper management.
The key on here is to invest on the amount that you can afford to lose or something that you arent relying when it comes to those times in need or something that doesnt really affect you mainly.
Market could really be bitter sometimes and also it cant move that much for you to rely with your crypto earning.This is why the best thing to be done is not to make yourself that going all in with investment not only on crypto but also in other industries as well.

We are trying or doing our best to have multiple sources and we are trying and striving our best to have a financially freedom type of living or life.This is why we do work
and we are really that wise when it comes to investment.
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Doxxed team can help a new gambling platform? on: February 11, 2023, 07:37:06 PM

Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?

What difference does it even make? Just because the team won't hide their faces doesn't mean that they won't cheat their users in the future. At worst, they'll just lose their license, that's all. And to be frank, most casinos are sub-licensed.
Exactly and this is why they do really to have that conclusive approach that if someone do show up their faces then they do assume out that it would be 100% secure or they do believe that hacking and stealing

couldn't really be that possible which is a BS kind of mindset or idea to have.There would be no assurance no matter what service do really show up their faces.They can ran off anytime if they wanted to.
It is really just that there are ones who are really that basing up with their standards, well yes its really that good if ever to be on that way to have that transparency but most of them decided
not to show up their faces or making their identities been exposed but what matter most is that they do still give out that service that we are wanting or needing.
1859  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Extremely Holding on: February 11, 2023, 06:58:57 PM
If this isn't some extreme form of holding, I wonder what it is then. According to the Twitter handle of Bitcoin Archive, 412Bitcoin worth $9.6m was moved from an address that was dormant for 11years. That means the owner just bought and "forgot" it there. While for some of us who have been holding for the past 3 months, it's seems like a century.This is gentle nudge that if someone has done it then you can(that is, if this is your goal).
How long do you think you can hold?
Holding is a very decisive aspect where one needs to think and rethink before concluding because one can not be in a situation where one will need financial rescue and you have such funds kept some where and you can not access it. It takes discipline to do such when you are in that kind of situation.ost people holding must have an extra source of income whereby you can depend on it without touching your bitcoin for long irrespective of the market ups and downs. Instead of withdrawing you set a monthly target for yourself where by you would be taking advantage of the market by buying in fractions bit by bit to as to increase your volume of holding.
In conclusion, I think people with extra source of income can likely be the ones who can hold for a long time but those without any source of income would barely hold because they would definitely fall back to their savings for rescue.
We would really come into a time on which we do really need to have some money due to some emergencies or really badly in need of funds on which it is really impossible for you to ignore and impossible for you

not to care that much on converting your investment that you do have and you do know that you do have it and you would really be going into a point which you would be needing to sell it up along the way.
This is why it is really that hard to make out some conclusions in regarding about holding it for long term specially with these conditions and even there's none and you do see that the market is continuing
to pump then you would really be always have the tendency.This is why it is really that hard even when you are just purely holding up.
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Site is still operating, that's good, but for me personally, I feel it is actually risky playing on the site that has no community where users can reach out to some of the Admins of the site, hence., I think those playing on Bitvest are taking a good leap of risk though, cus as it is right now, nobody knows what would happen next, site might go offline some body, and there will be no admin to complain to, most especially, those that will have their funds in there.
They do have contact channels which you could really reach them on, it is really just that people are minding that much on this ANN thread for them to be that active
considering that huge crypto traffic do really comes into this place which people would assume and expect that much.

Since I can't get a clear answer in this thread and there are plenty of mixed messages on whether the site has any active Customer Support or not, I just decided to ask them directly by submitting the ticket on the site.
Let's see how long it'll take them to reply and if they'll reply at all. I'll keep you posted.
Better that way so that at least people who had been discussing and watching this thread could really be able to know on whats the truth when it comes to
their support whether they are really that attentive or something that passive.To clarify things out. Thanks bud.
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