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1861  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: MemeCoins becoming the new Shitcoins on: May 13, 2021, 09:09:37 PM
greed is blinding people to the point of starting to turn this cryptocurrency market into a circus of clowning, in the past we had altcoins scam obvious, but nowadays we have seen altcoin that is a shame, what is the sense of people being investing in these meaningless altcoins and with dog's name? Did people forget that money is precious and that this market is dangerous? is the 20X profit madness so big that it makes people have frozen brains? It is unbelievable that so many people put money in some altcoin just because it has a dog name

What did Vitalik do?

I would also like to know
Most of these SHITCOIN/ MEMECOINS had burned 50% of their supply and worked on a deflationary model to increase their prices. For purpose of burning the supply they chose the address of Vitalik Butterin as which address could be more trustworthy than his? So every coin almost burned 50% of their supply by sending it into Vitalik's Ether Address.

Vitalik Played a masterstroke. For whatever reasons he donated all this supply to the INDIAN CRYPTO COVID RELIEF FUND. The Total Amount of donation at yesterday's price before the crash was around 1 Billion$.  Now this supply which was expected to be locked is into the market again and Most probably the fund will realize it soon. Now when this supply would be realized into fiat for actual usage we won't get enough demand at the time of swap or selling as 50% of the supply would be on sale. This means price would go further down or basically rock bottom.
Why are every ones against memecoins, everything has their own season of trending, so the same way of DeFi projects did, I know when there were thousand of DeFi projects in the cryptocurrencies system but some of them are dead today, haven't you asked yourself why Binance listed SHIB, on the exchange, I don't call them and can never call them shit coin because they exhibit and have good trading volume, shit coins never had good volume, they only rise and dump at the same time and die forever with poor volume.

All the reputable exchange are opening their hands on listing there memecoins in their exchange, gate, Okex, huobi, mxc, all have these coins on their exchange.,so why should they die out.
DeFi were the biggest contribution to crypto society they had a utility that they gave to the community. Similarly even NFTs gave the idea of cryptographing digital assets. Which contribution to society do Memecoins make except for bringing disrepute? Exchanges would never hesitate in listing any coin. For them, any coin which has Market Cap and can give them fees is a good coin. For them, it's not a matter of utility.
1862  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / MemeCoins becoming the new Shitcoins on: May 13, 2021, 02:35:52 PM
We all know after the Doge pump recently, numerous coins have hit the market claiming to be the next doge and most of them either have dog in their name or are having Elon in their name. Some like Shiba Inu even managed to pierce in the top 50 Cryptos and is now listed on Binance too. Utility? None. Thousands of investors or I should say normal people like us might have made 20-50x money with these coins. But an Equivalent number of people lost everything last night after what Vitalik Did. Here is the snapshot of the dog market after what Vitalik did:



Surprisingly Vitalik is now being seen as a traitor who has duped so much money of innocent investors. But up to what extent do you think he is wrong in doing so? I think he is absolutely right. These coins are just spoiling the name of blockchain and cryptos by making it a get-rich-quick scheme.
1863  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla stops car purchases with Bitcoin on: May 13, 2021, 02:21:21 PM
Elon Musk and his fairy tales. Everyone on the planets even the very less educated and privilege would know that bitcoin mining would consume electricity. Moreover, it has even been debated many times that due to major bitcoin mining taking place in Developed nations where more renewable sources of energy are used bitcoin doesn't really use that much energy. But one day CEO of TESLA waking up and realizing that oh no we need to stop accepting payments in bitcoin is not a story I am going to buy. It was a pure intentional price manipulation done by him. Even though the market looked bearish before the news. This news gave it the necessary fuel to go down. I believe he was just trying out whether he has the power to influence bitcoin price too or his powers are just limited to DOGE. Now he has realized he can move BTC too. He will surely do many more price manipulations.
1864  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks like BTC about to make its next leg up on: May 12, 2021, 08:54:16 PM


It looks like BTC is preparing for its next leg up.

It has been forming a base around 56,000.  Also the bollenger bands are flat and growing closer.  Look at April for a similar set up.

Another poster mentioned that whales are accumulating below 55,000, a good sign.
I think there will be a good leg down before we can make a leg up. Currently we have a made a higher low on the daily chart at around 60k and currently market is moving sideways but the fact is that there has been a good volume on selling side in the market and we break the bottom support we will see 47-49k regions. From these regions we will get enough buying pressure to go past 60k because at current price there aren't a lot of buyers going crazy for the market.
1865  Economy / Economics / Re: Web traffic to crypto exchanges in April 2021. on: May 12, 2021, 07:49:05 PM
Very interesting Infographic, but this could mean a couple of things. One can be the number of retail users or Institutions coming to buy in this market while another major sect of users might be the whales who have actually brought their cryptos into the market for sale at good prices. But one surprising thing is that despite price going almost 3x for Bitcoin the traffic has still not surpassed what it was in Jan 2018 which implies people had much more craze of cryptos then than they have now. But I think this data would vary country to country as in 2nd or 3rd world countries where people have come to know about cryptos late, there has been a huge traffic surge recently. While this wasn't the case in 2018.
1866  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency, now a fast rising trend! on: May 12, 2021, 07:10:16 PM
I don't know if I am being negative but all this doesn't sound quite right to me. People entering into all these shitcoins to make quick bucks. These are really the worst type of people you want in the crypto market. They will just make the market more volatile. Yes they might give us a fancy chance to sell our holdings at a good price but in the end they would eventually suffer short-term losses and will then curse the crypto market for life.


(C) Hodling a cryptocurrency with no definite plans in mind might not make you rich. You might just have your initial capital dancing around a range of figures.


This is absolutely true people think holding something like SHIBA INU will make them billionaire now. It's really a shit coin and was intended to be a shit coin it has given the required returns to its creators and some early investors. Putting hands in it is like burning yourself on your own.
1867  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin transaction fees lower than alts on: May 11, 2021, 08:52:23 PM
Does people actually know that transaction fees over the Bitcoin network has been cheaper than their favorite alts recently? Okay every Ethereum user is probably aware of this but how about those Doge fanatics? It takes 1-2 Doge to send a transaction which is more or less $0.50 to $1 based on current price. Even the BSC network has been congested lately and standard gas price went up to 9 Gwei from the previous 5 but I read that some people had to add more spending over $1 for their transactions not to be rejected.

Earlier today, I was able to send BTC at 3 sats/vbyte but I know the fee went even lower than that. That's less than $0.50. It's already back up to $4 but my point is that some people are probably still stuck to the notion that BTC transfers are always expensive. They don't realize they are spending more on their altcoins.
Yes this is absolutely shocking. I saw this just a couple of days ago and was surprised to see that Bitcoin fees has gone way down. I think it's due to some recent difficulty adjustment but looks like btc is handling the scaling issue pretty nicely and that also despite such a high price. If this would have been something during the bear run fees would have looked even lesser it's just 6-10 sats/byte for a good and swift transaction. Ether on the other hand has really shocked everyone. Fees is terrible these days due to network congestion and Uniswap fees is even higher.
1868  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mixing your Bitcoin might become illegal in the future on: May 09, 2021, 09:51:08 PM
The recent popularity of Bitcoin has brought the attention of governments and central banks worldwide. We've seen certain opposition from countries like India, China, and Russia against the pioneer cryptocurrency. Countries that are friendly towards Bitcoin (like the US and UK), are constantly surveilling its citizens for any suspicious activity. I've seen that some countries have taken action against Bitcoin mixing services with the excuse that they're used for money laundering and terrorist financing. Since most (if not all) of these centralized mixers don't comply with KYC/AML regulations, they're subject to being shut down by the government. Imagine if criminals begin using Bitcoin mixers in mass for money laundering purposes. If the trend continues, mixing Bitcoin may turn out to become illegal.

Do you think there's a possibility this will happen in the future? If not, why? What do you think will happen once mixers (both custodial and non-custodial) are banned by the government? Will this force people to use privacy coins more thoroughly? Or will everything remain the same? Any input will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Smiley
This is the first thing that would and I somewhere feel should happen. Believe it or not Cryptocurrency mixers really promote money laundering. Some would argue that it helps in decentralisation and anonymity but with this level of widespread usage of Cryptos, anonymity will be sacrificed to some extent to maintain traceability. Mixers hamper this great feature that Cryptocurrency offers to us. Moreover recent exchange hacks and extortions have also used these Crypto mixers to get past the traceability of authorities. So very soon crypto mixers can be banned completely in many countries if cryptos have to stay.
1869  Economy / Economics / Re: If we have crypto Why people still buy stocks? on: May 09, 2021, 08:50:32 PM
Why people still buy stocks?
If with crypto much bigger profits *
3% daily gain is nothing If you can get 100% profit with Good coins pump.
How the Hell people Even get rich with stocks with so small profits? 

There are numerous reasons for this. Not everyone buys stocks for short term gains. People buy stocks because they know the company and they know the business is going to stay in next 50 years just the way it has stayed here in previous to years. Also stocks give you ownership rights in the decision making of entity which crypto doesn't give. Secondly crypto can increase by good percentage daily but at the same time it can fall at a great percentage daily too. This means that traders can lose money as easily as they would make money. So cryptos are not going to replace stocks anytime soon.
1870  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Participants Only] [IPL 2021] Vote result on: May 09, 2021, 06:51:25 PM
1. Reserve for resume or next IPL : Royse777, Vishnu.Reang
2. Use the fund to next big tournament for example: WC T20 : JSRAW, teosanru, Swordsoffreedom, Haunebu, BitcoinGirl.Club
3. Return the funds to the users.
Well it seems majority wants the fund will be used for the next big tournament which lead me to bring this conclusion that if IPL resumes then we continue with this fund or we will use it for the next upcoming big tournament possibly WC T20.

Thanks everyone to help me to make a good decision as it seems my own decision was against the majority.
See that's what happens when you let people votes, you never get your ways. One of the reason i'm against democracy and preach about dictatorship lol

And i noticed that almost no-one followed "Vote Format". We definitely got nice bunch of peeps.  Grin
If you preach dictatorship you must be very happy with the political conditions of India currently.  Grin Anyways IPL I think won't happen for at least a year. I don't think BCCI would once again take the risk of calling a league amidst this COVID Crisis and I don't see covid crisis going anywhere in the next 6 months. This is why I think everyone wants to adjust funds for next big tournament.
And from what I have heard, the IPL players may not be impacted even if the tournament is called off. The franchises are likely to pay them the full amount.
That is tough to believe to be honest. Most franchises aren't even arranging proper transportation for their players in order to save money currently.

Apart from Mumbai Indians, the other franchises were of the opinion that the BCCI should arrange chartered flights for the players. Now they are justified in saying so, because it was the ego and stupidity of the BCCI which resulted in this situation. But I read in an online portal that the franchises want to keep their players happy and are likely to pay the full amount rather than going for a payment based on pro-rata. BTW, is there any truth in the rumors of fight between David Warner and Michael Slater?
Officially they both have denied that there was any such fight between them in any Maldives Bar. Talking about the payments for players. I think as long as the franchises are in profit( Which they should be in), they won't really make the players sad. Moreover, after risking the lives of the player in this deadly pandemic they really want to give them the compensation to shut up.
1871  Economy / Speculation / Re: At this bullish season, bullish person is always right? on: May 08, 2021, 10:05:59 PM
From what we all see, even a coin that we thought a garbage coin, pumps and generates billions of volume, and not only that, it made people profitable. What I'm referring to is the DOGE coin, I thought Bitcoin would be the most profitable but it seems like people are making money from the craze of DOGE.

So the question is, do you still believe in experts now or just ride with the FOMO and enjoy cashing out on short-term trades profit?

I love to hear your thoughts, I feel like it's becoming like a bubble already.
I think one shouldn't take investing inspiration from something like Dogecoin, we all know it's a meme coin. Has no real purpose and no real utility and just being floated up by fake pumping. Actually, all these things happen because cryptocurrency market is a very new market and is so far driven only because of the mammoth returns that it provides in a very short span of time. But the question is whether you should trade/ invest in the expert way or enjoy FOMO, honest answer is to do both things. Keep a decent amount of your capital for purpose of investment into some good coins, for example, some coins like Uniswap, 1Inch & Solana grew this much because of their utility keep some bag of money in these coins and keep some money ready for shit coins like doge coins, this way you can enjoy both the things in a very fruitful manner.
1872  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you aware of Shrinkflation? on: May 08, 2021, 08:58:40 PM
More than Economics it's about sales and marketing strategy. When any company wants to keep it's pricing competitive to it's substitutes and also keep it at a whole number figure, this is the best strategy for them. I have been seeing a packet of Maggi since my childhood. One packet of Maggi Noodles is Rs.10 in my country for almost more than 15 years now. But the weight of one pack has gone down from 100g to just 65 grams now. They have tried to keep the pricing the same to give the feeling that Maggi is still available at the same price at which you brought it in your childhood but actually things have changed a lot. This isn't the dark side of anything. Every company needs to keep it's pricing accurate I don't feel this is unfair to the consumer as they know what they are buying.
1873  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: cryptocurrency gift tax on: May 08, 2021, 08:24:34 PM
If I buy some bitcoin worth $1K, including fee and cost, then one year later it is worth $2K.  At that time, I give it to my friend.  My friend then sells it for $2K.  Then, does my friend have to pay tax?
First of all you need to tell the country in which you are residing and doing this transaction. If it's the US please tell the state too as taxes differ for each state. But yes one thing is constant which I have seen in the tax laws of a lot of countries. In case of such a transaction either the gift that you have made is taxed at its Fair Market Value in hands of your Friend at the time of receipt, it's not a gift but a sort of income for him. So he would end up paying tax on receiving and then will pay tax when he sells it(If he sells for profit) but this time the profit will be the amount of sale minus the fair value at time of the gift.

Some countries practice a different system. In those countries when your friend sells the bitcoin ultimately, he will be taxed on profits and in this case, the purchase price will be taken as a difference between sale proceeds and your purchase value(In this case which is $1K).

So in my opinion Either ways you will end up paying tax.
1874  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH sheep, buy now? on: May 07, 2021, 09:56:23 PM
Hi Smiley I'm new to the crypto space. I'm looking at the ETH graph and I'm unsure if I should buy now. But its at an all time high, and I was taught to buy low sell high. I really don't want to be a sheep, but what if the price keeps going up? Should I just wait for it to go down and just buy the dip?
If you don't want to be a sheep then wait for next retracement in the 4h or daily chart. Market of Ether is too over bought as of now. It has given a good rally of 20% in past week. Market of Ether would definitely come down till 3000 area so if you are looking for investment this can be a good area to keep your buy orders. I just made a mistake yesterday when I tried to buy Ether at 3600 thinking that it's breaking it's all time high but ended up being a sheep when prices came down immediately. So 3600 is a good resistance which won't easily break. Try to buy any downward move that comes after we fail to break this resistance.
1875  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Investing Urge or Trading Surge on: May 07, 2021, 07:24:24 PM
So I am in a situation where I have found a potential project I can invest in for the long term and gain huge profits.
At the same time the current market seems the correction is over and another bull run might start.

I am having an urge to invest all that I can in the potential project I like but it is also a good time to diversify the portfolio and trade some nice coins to gain short term profits.
What would you guys do if you were in such a situation ?



@mk4
how long you're planning on holding
I can hold very long. Let's say 15 years or so.

what your other investments are(inside and outside crypto)
BTC and ETH
Little amount in Mutual Funds

what your asset allocations are
Not sure how would I describe that

what your trading strategies are
More of swing trading. Buy the dip, wait for a good price to sell (time doesn't matter)

what your risk appetite is, and how much money you can afford to lose
I can afford to lose not more than 25%
15 years is a very long time we are talking about. Even if you blindly trust the project and even trust the promoters even a single mistake can lead to abandoning of the projects. I am saying this keeping at par with most of the startups in the world. Most of them have great ideas but it doesn't just require a great idea to succeed. So putting all your investment in that particular project for a period of 15 years is nothing less than stupidity. That also at the time of a bull run because we know for a fact that when BTC prices would go south in bear market the whole market would go red.

Also seeing your risk aversion which is good 25% I think you can try to trade your way out. In just 1 year or so you would be enough trained to take money anytime out of market. Then in future you can invest this money in that potential project at time of bear run where you might find better prices.
1876  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto vs Stocks on: May 07, 2021, 06:35:38 PM
One thing I would like to state here is that Stocks and crypto both have almost different intent. Most of the cryptocurrencies are created with the intent that they could be used as a medium of the transaction so what's the point of holding them as an investment? While yes it's true that some projects do create crypto with the intent of raising money but stocks are still better. Reasons are simple if you buy stocks of some company you actually get to control the company and its decisions that thing is not possible with cryptos even if you have majority coin holding with you. The company is not legally bound to listen to you. So for businesses and investments, stocks are better. But trading is a game of volatility and the crypto market is an ocean of volatility. You get the most profits while trading in a volatile market only.
Still, cryptocurrency and stocks have a lot in common. For the purpose of conducting transactions and using as a means of payment, only general purpose coins are created. However, a significant portion of the cryptocurrency is tokens. They have a lot in common with stocks, as they serve certain programs or business. Shares give you the right to control only if you own a certain percentage of their issue. Typically, this is 51 percent. If you have the same percentage of the total issued tokens, you can also influence their price movement.
However, the cryptocurrency market and the stock market are distinguished primarily by the high volatility of cryptocurrency prices and the absence of their direct regulation so far.
Influencing price movement is a concern here. Stock gives you a right to control the project or the company or at least influence the major decisions and also appoint key managerial personnel of the company but cryptos on the other hand don't have this feature. They don't give you the right to influence the decisions of the project. Forget about decisions they don't even offer you the facility to ask for accountability of any project if you hold a certain set of tokens. While shareholders command complete accountability on the affairs of the Company. This is what is the major difference I am talking about.
1877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Participants Only] [IPL 2021] Prediction pool and discussion on: May 06, 2021, 09:39:06 PM
My vote for What should we do the fund in the pool?
1. Use the fund to next big tournament for example: WC T20


I don't think distributing it back would make sense and the next IPL looks like a farthing. Let's just adjust it for the upcoming WC if it happens. Is there an option where the current rank holders get the prize money?  Grin Grin If there is i would choose that option.  Grin
1878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My feelings after 11 years with crypto. on: May 06, 2021, 08:51:07 PM
Hello everyone, today i want to tell you about my crypto-depression.
So in 2010 i was working in IT company and my friend from work told me about bitcoin mining.
Next day after this information i register on this forum and start mining coins, everything going perfect but bitcoin price was really low and unstable.
I was investing everything in gpu. Couple times i lost my fund's on scam-exchange but i still had a lot of "mining power".
In 2015 i quited my job and invest my whole savings in bitcoin, in that time i had more than 15 bitcoin's and gpu worth 20k$.
And after 2 or 3 week's everything fucked up, in same time i lost my job and my wife get sicked.
In Nov 2015 i selled everything but still i had -$$$$ to pay, so you probably asking why i made this post?

Now after 6 years i have biggest depression ever, if i only burrow money from somewhere 5 years ago and didnt sell my miners...

I have feelings that i lost my biggest life chance to get really rich and i just want to forget about crypto and work in normal work but it is impossible.
It's hurt much more if you can see that your old crypto-friend's get cars and houses from crypto profit, i wonder if someone have some feeling's as me.

I think there are numerous stories like yours. I never obviously had this much bitcoins but still had a lot of them which I sold at a pretty cheap price. Talking about the recent rally of doge coins. I had more than around 40000 doge coins. I gambled those doges on the casino I don't remember the name of the website but I remember Yahoo wore the signature of that casino game. I turned these 40k into 300k doge coins then I sold all this and got around $1.5k. I thought this is it I have made the biggest Heist in the history of bitcoin, little did I know that those 300k doge coins would now be worth more than 180k$ and still growing daily. I think everyone on this forum must have had this kind of depression. Obviously, your story is sad as you had to sell it because of a tragedy.
1879  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin do the same scenario in 2018 ? on: May 05, 2021, 09:04:16 PM
i am wondering if Bitcoin will fall again like it happened in 2018 after the Bull run !
even in this time the price raised too much faster in shorter time.
last two days Bitcoin price felt 10000 $
i know that some news affect the market, but should we sell now in this panic ! or should we hold  Undecided
i am a little bit confused
 
Obviously yes, the Market can never go in just one direction no matter how good the coin or how good the project is it's human sentiments that come into play. People would eventually try to book some profits leading to correction in the market. The scenario of 2018 would definitely be repeated as soon as we see a correction. Market Ideally moves in a 45-degree angle and corrects itself whenever it is above that. Currently on weekly as well as month Market is too bullish so obviously, things will be corrected. But yes one thing is almost sure that after that crash or correction whatever you say it there would be another 2021 like boom. This is how things have always been bull run has to eventually end for the bears to take in and bear run would eventually end too.
1880  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: DOGECOIN (DOGE) is only HYPE! Better to leave before the BUBBLE BURST on: May 05, 2021, 08:14:01 PM
This shitcoin doesn't has any fundamental,
Dev have abandon this project since long time ago,
This coin created only for MEME,

Don't HODL too long, or you know what will happen when BUBBLE BURST, right?

P.S don't post on here for shitty analyze

True! I was thinking of this today. All that these idiots are buying in shitloads is Tweets of Elon Musk and fake hype. I am really curious that how can people invest and HODL a project which even its founder didn't trust. He obviously might be repenting today that he sold this much of Doge coins so early merely to buy a car but aren't we all repenting on selling some doge coins early? Despite that it actually is a bubble and an intelligent person would get out of it as soon as possible. There can be no logical explanation as to why it has come all the way up to 0.7$ Even if we say we can use it as a currency. It will start to face scalability issues soon too. Moreover, a project without the devs is no longer secure too. The irony is that people are just pushing air into a bubble.
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