What about your technology? Tell me a bit.
Thank you for your question. The usage of the micro-service architecture (MSA) gives the opportunity of using different technological stacks needed for the tasks of a particular micro-service. The main technological stacks that we use include Java languages (for the business logic), C ++ (for high-loaded channels), Go (for working with allocated environments), besides, we are also planning to use such programming languages as PHP, Ruby-on -Rails and Javascript. The user interface is formed using the HTML5 stack and the ReactJS framework. For mobile apps, Java (for Android) and ObjectiveC (for iOS) are used. For desktop apps and integration with blockchain, C ++ and Java are used, for Windows - C #. For the database, open source databases are used. In future, the source code will be placed in GitHub. The complete Continuous Integration- Testing-Deployment chain is configured for the immediate release. These are quite a few different programming languages. how many programmers work for you? In any case, very interesting to see what an effort that is. I hope for you that the ICO is going well, that all sounds very expensive :-) More than 50 programmers. We have everything under control. Thank you for your question, faulerwilli  That's a lot of man power, hope the brand is financially buoyant enough to cater for the need of the number of programmers, if they can, then i have no issue, as long as they can deliver, which i believe they will, then is fine by me, is a pretty delicate project as it has to do with finance, so i understand the need for more technical man power |
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Thanks for the reminder, I had actually missed this but will get on it now. A great chance to get some free tokens - why not  Not only free tokens, but essentially free membership on the SEED platform, no excuse for anyone to not be a member when you can get a decent start for free haha Amazing free membership and free tokens you can earn a lot by also following the referral program you can earn up to $400 worth of SEED Tokens. Fantastic opportunity to get some free SEED tokens just for referring some friends, it will help the project grow it's community and expand further to become a global success There is Airdrop also? I was not aware of this airdrop. Thanks for sharing the link. I am going to participate in this airdrop. Hope I am not late. If you have not yet registered for airdrop, you should do it now. Its closing very soon. This project is good for investment and also get as much as possible as free tokens in airdrop and bounties. Airdrop still on? Wow! That's great, I have got people who are yet to fill in, how do I get link? I have registered it yesterday. Thanks for informing about the airdrop friends. I want to add as much SEED tokens as possible. Holding SEED tokens will opens doors for other ICO free tokens as well. Yea, it does open doors to more offers, offers of having different tokens, each with varying amount, just as the token name implies, which is 'SEED', is like the planting of a seed to generate multiple amount of fruits or perhaps crops, so that should be where the name originated from, which matches the concept of having one token and getting more in return |
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Apart from the fact that one gets paid to lure hackers, the feeling of being part of something important give one a nice feeling and the believe that you're helping to make the internet safer has a nice ring to it.
Was just thinking, how will it really feel in reality? I mean if just the thought of it alone makes one feel nice about, how will the act of literally nabbing a hacker feel like?? #FBI_feeling y'all  Do you physically get s hacker? No, you just have the ability of detecting and preventing a hacker from gaining access to a network. Of course you don't physically get the hackers, by "literally nabbing a hacker" I meant the feeling of being paid and knowing you just reduced the numbers of hackers in the world by one. I mean then it won't just be a statement any more but an act. Lmao physically getting a hacker.. But yeah, mining rewards from capturing hackers fingerprints is going to be a great feeling. Knowing that you have made the internet a safer place to be at through the sake of mining using a small little device such as a raspberry pi - not only that but you will be getting rewarded in HNY tokens - which in my opinion will go up in value with the success of this project Yea, exactly, i like the fact that they embedded the concept of value and simplicity in the token as those are the key to a successful brand, the project is offering a lot and i do hope they achieve the needed target, i really can't wait to have a taste of the technology and see it in active use, have a reputable market base and a massive good rating |
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Is vanig open to external merchants like maybe outside trader who may like to ply their trade in the Vanig platform?? and what's their plan for a franchise system?? is there any of such??
To my understanding yes I believe if you follow within reasons of what the platform supports probably best to talk to the team on telegram directly if you want more info on it I’d imagine Yes. I read it somewhere they gonna serve as platform for other business to showcase their product and service, they even stated that Amazon, Walmart and Alibaba will be listing product on vanig platform. So they will definitely be supporting third party vendor I love this.. If they go ahead and get this companies to list products in the platform vanig will get the recognition it deserves for sure. But i would advice that Vanig vets the third party business well to ensure they are up to the task. So they officially confirmed that those companies will be listing products on the platform? Where does it say that? I can't see how Amazon would want to list their products on another platform? I guess the important thing to remember is that if Vanig can list other products and sell them - it would be in Amazon's best interest to get extra sells through third party companies such as Vanig - making everyone a winner Yea and that part was stressed in reference to the artificial intelligence process, the learning machine can generate the list based on inputs or data collected from a lot of users and streamline the list to the needs of the users and not just that, the product list will actually be from verified sellers whose products are known to be of top quality I thought Vanig will be in competition with other e-commerce platform like Amazon eBay. But it seems to be different case. Vanig is an ecommerce platform, so yea, the above brand are competitors but the fact is, vanig is doing something much more unique in terms of approach, the use of AI and coupled with the fact that the project is based on the blockchain industry as opposed to the centralized concept which the traditional ecommerce site offers, so they have an edge |
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Most exchanges have rules against announcing listings before they are done deals and most don’t allow announcements while ICOs are actively running which makes sense if you think about it to keep things in check
Announcing exchange listing during ico is a bad move..it shouldn't even come to mind till during the last days of the running ico.. Exchange is usually a very big distraction during an ico... If the exchange isn't a favourable one it can turn down investors in investing in the token... Yeah, the big ones get you to sign a NDA specifically so they're not announced. I personally don't care about when an exchange is announced, if i invest in a project it's because I believe in the core of the project and their goals, not because they're going to be listed on X exchanges. Not only this, but I'm not fussed about which exchanges for now as the project is still developing. I'm more interested in the actual work they are producing and the progress - I'm in 4NEW for the long game rather than selling for a quick buck on an exchange You just made a succinct point, this project is not about dumping but about holding, is remarkable and worthy to note that this is just the beginning, as they still have a lot to offer, which invariably means that the value is even yet to start growing, we are talking about an estimated 22 power plants, okay, imagine if they even establish just 10, the answer to that thought is simple |
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Is vanig open to external merchants like maybe outside trader who may like to ply their trade in the Vanig platform?? and what's their plan for a franchise system?? is there any of such??
To my understanding yes I believe if you follow within reasons of what the platform supports probably best to talk to the team on telegram directly if you want more info on it I’d imagine Yes. I read it somewhere they gonna serve as platform for other business to showcase their product and service, they even stated that Amazon, Walmart and Alibaba will be listing product on vanig platform. So they will definitely be supporting third party vendor I love this.. If they go ahead and get this companies to list products in the platform vanig will get the recognition it deserves for sure. But i would advice that Vanig vets the third party business well to ensure they are up to the task. So they officially confirmed that those companies will be listing products on the platform? Where does it say that? I can't see how Amazon would want to list their products on another platform? I guess the important thing to remember is that if Vanig can list other products and sell them - it would be in Amazon's best interest to get extra sells through third party companies such as Vanig - making everyone a winner Yea and that part was stressed in reference to the artificial intelligence process, the learning machine can generate the list based on inputs or data collected from a lot of users and streamline the list to the needs of the users and not just that, the product list will actually be from verified sellers whose products are known to be of top quality |
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Did somebody noticed how the ICO is progressing? It is moving steadily and crossed 1 mil today. Looks like 5 mil is easy target during the remaining pre-sale period for cryptocean
Yeah, I saw that, too. Even though we are still very early in the pre-sale the amount of money they raised is already great. Seems like the 30% bonus is a good incentive. Yeah, $1m is real good progress already. Im I bet that the $3m lightcap is only going to be a couple weeks away if that, now. Thats awesome news considering what the markets are doing at the moment, Cryptocean is a brilliant investment opportunity. One of my favourite things about the project is that the Cryptocean cards will allow users to automatically transfer several different cryptos into fiat automatically for paying at pay points or taking ATM withdrawals. I know there are a lot of projects working on similar ideas but I like that it doesn't need to be CRON tokens that are converted to fiat, it can be BTC, ETH or DASH. That's the interesting part of the project. It gives you the ease of assessing cash at any point in time without having to go to an exchange site to convert to Fiat and requesting a withdrawal. As time goes they should make provisions for more currencies on the card. This is the most attractive part of the project in my opinion, I haven't seen many other projects attempt to break the crypto to fiat withdrawal from ATM's - it would be huge for crypto if they manage to pull this off and certainly will attract a huge audience from the crypto industry You are quite right and that's the part that got my attention towards this project, i still find it hard to assimilate that happening but i really hope it does, as this will revolutionize the blockchain industry and give the industry and entirely new look, bringing something of a virtual world into reality, i call it virtual world because that's how a lot of individuals view cryptocurrency |
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Yeah they're working hard on promoting their project to as many people as possible. I've seen their adverts on a few different crypto pages and their postings on their social media channels.
Yes they are very active in social media it is very important as they can get a lot of investors and supporters from there and they keep us updated frequently. Yes they are. They really want to succeed and it is important that they get good solid investors. Although I don't think it going to be easy for them but they will pull it off. Yes, it is not easy to find investors right now. The market is once again on the ground. And there are a few other exchanges that are also looking for investors. However, Superbloom stands out from the others with its benefits program, and I think that will help attract investors Thankfully, the market seems to be recovering and frankly, i'm not really bothered about getting investors for this project because the project is so unique that it will attract investors on its own, is probably the first on the stellar platform if i'm not mistaken and has some solid idea to back them up, so i believe investors will love to be part of this There are actually quite a few assets on the Stellar ledger, there is a list of them on this website: https://stellar.expert/explorer/public/assetI would say though, Superbloom will probably be one of the biggest assets on their platform and it will definitely encourage a lot of other companies to launch ICO's on their blockchain if they are a success. Nice, thanks for the insight, yea, i quite agree with you, personally superbloom is the project that got my attention when it comes to the stellar platform and been a new thing will attract investors as they will want to test something new and see how it goes, it gives this project that uniqueness that it deserves and a lot of attention from the community |
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What I can see on Bitfence homepage? "STINGMINER LAUNCH IN: 32 days". They raised their require funds (2000 ETH Goals)? Anyone have any information about it? How much amount they raised yet?
What happened their 2000 ETH goals in stage -1? I thought they have stage 2 also. But don't know why they changed suddenly here? Stingminer launching plan was in Q3 or Q4? Nothing wrong with them bringing it forward! The crowdsale was meant to end in July though, so not sure what's happened there They obviously have made great progress with the sale / stingminer - I was a bit gutted having to wait till Q4 so I'm ecstatic to see that the release of the stingminer is within 32 days. Great work Bitfence team! That is really great progress having to see that product in 32 days. Let us see what this news would do to the sale. So the stingminer would then be used in any device correct? it does not have to be a PI Yeah this is really great progress. But still question is have they got their require funds in stage-1? Or they paused this sale and will continue after sometime? There is a pause to implement KYC in to their system, after which they will resume token sale, that's why you could see some changes in their home page The pause threw people off I think but ya it’s exactly that a pause they realized the issue they were going to run into and paused to prevent issues down the line so that’s why things went they way they did I understand the KYC filters a lot of people and may render the investments to be lower; since those who do not pass the kyc will be refunded I guess. I just hope they do it fast and not take much time doing it. Yea, we all want it done fast but documentation is a pretty delicate thing, cryptocurrency has been attracting a lot of attention and most of these projects are now been monitored by unseen forces, so to be on the safe side, the project has to judiciously do the needful, so lets give them the needed time to do what is suppose to be done |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. Oh.. 4new still haven't finished processing the kyc for investors too. I didn't expect the process to take this long, the pre listing sale is around the corner kyc not being already processed may be bad for business. Less than two days to go for pre-listing Tokens sale. Hope 4new team manage to complete all KYC related formalities for all users by tomorrow. As I remembered previously also they taken long time for KYC implementation process. But as they promised they made required changes in below that. And I am sure this time also same thing will happen. As we are closer to pre-listing token sale start and its for only 3 days, so I am now expecting an announcement from 4NEW about a token listing. Yeah, you're right. A pre- listing sale wouldn't make sense if they didn't have agreements with an exchange already. I guess we should hear some news before friday. Interesting question. This question should be addressed to the team. Is the listing date already announced? I thought that should be immediately after the sales of 3 days. I agree a quick listing shows the ICO is headed in the right direction Yea but such process requires time and some pretty amount of money and the KYC is still ongoing, don't get me wrong, i love to see the listing happen as soon as possible but following the needed process to make that happen is not a walk in the park, so lets just wait and see as the event of the preparation unfolds, it has been an awesome event |
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Cryptocean are aiming at making the business fully legal and regulated which will allow company clients to be sure that platform are rendering legally safe long-term services.
Yeah they have to, if they are going to win peoples trust they need to make sure every single part of their business is legal You can also order from us a classic plastic card (crypto card), issued together with our partner banks. It will enable you to deposit and withdraw cash from your financial and crypto accounts in regular ATMs using CRYPTOCEAN services, and also pay for purchases - goods and services – with cryptocurrency, as if you were paying with a usual bank card
This was referenced from an ICO review site, and I truly can't wait to see the progression with the plastic card, does anyone have any ETA on when this may be implemented? I think this will shine out to the other projects as I haven't seen this before. Launch of the alpha version of cryptocurrency cards is scheduled on 27.07.2018, you can see this on the roadmap. Impressive, that's around the corner, news like this is what the community love to hear, even though it was stated on their road map, it should be stressed for others to see as many will not even glance at that part and i will advice the team to spread such news on their social channels, will their be an opportunity for investors to test it first?, because i was thinking of a beta test first before going alpha mode but if the team is pretty confident about the alpha test, then is much better |
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Is vanig open to external merchants like maybe outside trader who may like to ply their trade in the Vanig platform?? and what's their plan for a franchise system?? is there any of such??
Not sure if I understood the question correctly but are you asking if a private (small) retailer can use the platform without any problems to sell his goods? i think that's what they're trying to do, partner with alot of suppliers small and large. Vanig are aiming to operate in a similar fashion to Amazon, EBay and other popular E-Commerce websites/Supply chains. This means having a mixture of large retailers and smaller partners. They mention it in their whitepaper. Also do you know that sellers will receive $1 worth of Vanig tokens per verified product listing, $6 worth of Vanig tokens after completing 5 sales successfully. Pretty cool incentives for sellers to use the Vanig platform, eBay & Amazon will CHARGE you to list products on their site, Vanig want to PAY you to do it. Yea, that's pretty awesome, the VP said something about giving incentives and the good part is that the incentives will be in Vanig token and not fiat, this is a good opportunity for the token to grow in value, as the users will be willing to go extra mile in order to have some of the token, thereby creating a vibrant ecommerce ecosystem |
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Interesting piece, highlights the benefits of investing in CryptOcean i read its the first its kind with no competitors. I'll be sure to purchase some CryptOcean token Nice review and short intro. In this article they said we can this platform to pay bills, salaries and lot of other transactions wherever banks do. It is really nice concept. Yep it’s all going to come down to adoption I’m hopeful for the team as they seem to have done a lot of legwork lining up the plan and roadmap and have a grasp of what difficulties may lie ahead hopefully they can get strong real world adoption and usage Given they have achieved the soft cap they have made a great achievement. I think if they are able to provide a prototype of the plastic cards that would really take this to another dimension. Never knew that the softcap has been achieved, that's awesome, it takes a lot to even achieve such target this days because of the competitive nature of ICO as of present, so is a welcome development and i do agree for the team to start coming up with things that will attract more of the community, solid reasons to attract investors to the project |
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Just really hoping sales reward the team for such a strong media showing these guys had such an insane push from even before their bitcointalk thread opened I saw it on Reddit and twitter before even bitcointalk which is an impressive feat to get people talking so early
I saw it everywhere, on whatsapp, telegram discussion room, had someone who happens to be my boss, pm me about the airdrop activity, it was there I knew this project will make waves truly Wow that's awesome they are really making wave. Well am not that surprised because they are made up of incredible individuals who have the capability of making huge success Solid team with some really great advertising I’m getting the feeling they are going to do really well in this ico as the advertising has been doing really well for a while now I also find their advertising is at its best till now. Honestly I have not seen such marketing for any other ICOs. Superbloom is definitely doing real good. Yeah they're working hard on promoting their project to as many people as possible. I've seen their adverts on a few different crypto pages and their postings on their social media channels. Yes they are very active in social media it is very important as they can get a lot of investors and supporters from there and they keep us updated frequently. Yes they are. They really want to succeed and it is important that they get good solid investors. Although I don't think it going to be easy for them but they will pull it off. Yes, it is not easy to find investors right now. The market is once again on the ground. And there are a few other exchanges that are also looking for investors. However, Superbloom stands out from the others with its benefits program, and I think that will help attract investors Thankfully, the market seems to be recovering and frankly, i'm not really bothered about getting investors for this project because the project is so unique that it will attract investors on its own, is probably the first on the stellar platform if i'm not mistaken and has some solid idea to back them up, so i believe investors will love to be part of this |
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Apart from the fact that one gets paid to lure hackers, the feeling of being part of something important give one a nice feeling and the believe that you're helping to make the internet safer has a nice ring to it.
I agree, it's nice to know that you are making the internet a safer place to be whether it benefits yourself, friends, your family or future kids - you are helping towards making the world a better place That's right and is the reason we are all here, most of us are victims of the attack by hackers and we all seek a safe haven to do our day to day activities on the world wide web, it can be scary sometimes and even cause some individuals to be paranoid of even going online but bitfence is giving us hope and a reason to feel secure once more |
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Interesting read and also establishes the mission of Vanig as one project that's going to push boundaries in Innovation through the integration of supply chain and e-commerce by leveraging the latest in blockchain which is what I can read here so far  Artificial intelligence machines will help automates lots of process in Vanig platform which will benefit Advertisers, Consumers and Retailers AI is really everywhere soon. I'm really curious how AI will affect e-commerce. Does every shop know what I want to buy before? It's all going to be really interesting AI is the future for sure. I could not imagineHow the world would be without AI in each and every field in the future. Looking forward for the future for better life. I still think there is more room for advancements with AI as of now there are still faulty results however It surely is and has advanced light years. It would be interesting knowing what kind of AI approach would be utilized for Vanig. I totally agree with you, from the look of things I am guessing they gonna be using either machine learning or deep learning that is what most business use this days AI technology is still developing if you ask me so it will be expected to see one or two few faults for the time being until fully developed. This let's give room for some corrections with this project even after it may have been lunched already. Well i agree is new but the implementation has been going on for a while, though it will take sometime to be fully implemented in all the spheres of life but it will, streamlining that to this project, i don't see them having issues with it, as they have already tested it on some of their concepts and it worked, like on the advertising part |
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Yup. I got response back quickly from Ocular server and 4New account show status as 'verified'
Wow congratulations, I get such news of recent in the group, I think those who have been long they did kyc and hasn't gotten their kyc verified should redo or be some more patient for verification I saw some complains in the telegram group about KYC not verified and the admins assured them it will be processed in no time, glad to see it's been rectified. It seems to be taking longer than expected. I think it would have easier for them if they passed it through a third party like jumio however I am not sure how much would that cost or would it be worth it. either case the pre-listing sale is not far away so things should be cleared by then I hope. More than 36000 users are registered here. That's why they taking lot of time to verify KYC. I guess this task they finish before start sale. I'm sure the team are working on it and will get the job done very shortly, they have been very efficient with pretty much everything else - give the guys some time and lets wait and see That's something most of the community fail to understand, KYC takes time, they are trying to do something that will avert future issues, we are talking about documentation of over 36,000 participants or more, we just have to exercise patience and let them do their job, they've been doing good so far and i believe they won't stop now |
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Interesting read and also establishes the mission of Vanig as one project that's going to push boundaries in Innovation through the integration of supply chain and e-commerce by leveraging the latest in blockchain which is what I can read here so far Artificial intelligence machines will help automates lots of process in Vanig platform which will benefit Advertisers, Consumers and Retailers AI is really everywhere soon. I'm really curious how AI will affect e-commerce. Does every shop know what I want to buy before? It's all going to be really interesting AI is the future for sure. I could not imagineHow the world would be without AI in each and every field in the future. Looking forward for the future for better life. I still think there is more room for advancements with AI as of now there are still faulty results however It surely is and has advanced light years. It would be interesting knowing what kind of AI approach would be utilized for Vanig. I totally agree with you, from the look of things I am guessing they gonna be using either machine learning or deep learning that is what most business use this days We will be seeing Artificial Intelligence being used a lot in the next coming years aswell as machine learning, it's good to see a project utilize the technology and try to implement a reliable system to improve the e-commerce You're right, Artificial Intelligence is taking over, it is the future and wise brands are implementing it, good to see vanig is already following same trend, on the part of consumers, the AI powered algorithm will create an avenue whereby consumers will be able to see the likely products that they wish to buy and the process is streamlined to offer high quality products |
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your soft cap is very high. $ 5 million, right? Tell me, what happens if you do not reach it? does the team have a plan for this?
I thought it was $25m for the softcap? Darkoth89, I seen that light cap is 3000,000$ and softcap showing 5,000,000$. But what is the light cap and why they need it? About light cap I did not seen before this project. Hi, ethtrader. Now it is quite a difficult time for ICO projects, cryptocurrencies and bitcoin are again at low rates, there are many projects in the market without a working idea and legal study but with a huge budget for marketing, so we have secured ourselves and divided our plans not into 2 stages - soft cap and hard cap, but into 3 stages: Light, Soft and Hard. In all three versions, the project will be able to develop, but with different speed and power. So that you mean to by using Light Cap concept it will take more easy raise funds? Another question is what will happen if they will reach Light Cap but not Soft Cap? Thanks Erik Fox for reply. But same question I am also asking. If they reached Light cap target but if they got failed to reach softcap. Then what steps they will be taken by team? Is that means even with lightcap, project will survive and move further without any issues? For this project, softcap is the lightcap and softcap is the added feather to it? I think so, but they will do it in a different speed. Maybe it is going to take longer to complete their roadmap if they only get the light cap. Less the money less the speed. Is they published different roadmap for different caps? I am curious to understand the real difference with respect to caps on timing. If I understand it's use of "different speed and power" as regards the 3 stages of the project (light cap, softcap and hardcap) I think they are trying to say that the end product of the project depends on the level or sales stage that was archived. If it's just the light cap, they will have to execute and focus on their laid out plans for the light cap alone. I hope am right by this analysis. Yea, i think you're right about that and i love the fact that it is laid down bare for the community to see what each stage will be able to cover if they eventually hit either of the stages, it gives the community that feeling of what to expect and if the community is really hyped about the project, they will like to get involved and watch the excitement as they leap though each stages |
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Base on what I've read, it looks like its getting hyped already. But to be fair its really a good concept here. How much HoneyNet do we need to run nodes? Seems to be sale is going good. But just want to know that next stage will start after they reaching their 2000 ETH? If they will not reach their 2000 ETH goal then what next step will be taken?
It will probably continue or it will be extended depending on what the team wants. I think that they will just continue, because they have to move on, and hit the softcap. It only need to hit the softcap for the project to move forward. If I am an investor, I'd be sending my ETH before 4% bonus again will be deducted. When they say they'd be releasing hardware solutions, what sorts of product are these? The hardware solution is the Stingminer, a raspberryPi, everything preset, you just have to plug it in. This is the honey pot that hackers want to attract. If someone falls into the trap and attacks the Stingminer, he is immediately recognized as a hacker and automatically reported to the Bitfence network. Once recognized, he can no longer do any damage You get paid for uptime as well as hacker 'fingerprints' as well, so should pay to have such a liteweight device Of course, I forgot to mention that. the longer the stingminer is online, the higher the rewards Unfortunately, you can only run one Stingminer per IP address (otherwise it would not make sense) Well i think that's great with the per IP address thing, streamlining that will help with incessant or multiple mining per individual, i'm not conversant with the tech part but i feel like if that's not the case, the entire process will be like much on the bitfence machinery, hope i'm not mistaken though but that's just how i feel Nice to hear about the one miner per IP address - this should prevent people from abusing the system with multiple nodes I remembered I said something about this sometimes ago and I'm glad Bitfence took it serious cos we don't want an abuse to the system, we don't want a situation where one person gets the reward meant for 10 people Yea, i hammered on that part too, that would have been a defect on the part of bitfence, i'm pretty sure hackers and some malicious individuals will be finding ways to exploit the good concept that this project offers but i'm glad is not the case as bitfence had that in mind when creating the process and been a project that tends to fight hacking, they should really be on red alert always |
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