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18761  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hitleap Is it worth it? on: April 10, 2015, 03:14:49 PM
You could spend hundreds or thousands on this type of thing and it still won't count for anything compared to a handful of real people taking a look. If you're going to throw money anywhere SEO makes more sense and will ultimately continue paying off.
18762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 10, 2015, 12:38:02 PM
3d MACD red on finex Smiley

edit: Oh and price is lower than it was 2 years ago! Bullish? Ohhh u bet!

That's amazing  Grin


So the moment has finally come. It's about time the the TA, trendlines and 'wisdom' accrued up to 2014 was pissed all over. If this market was a couple of centuries old all that stuff might count for something. As it stands it's all being made up as we go along and it's good to have a reminder of that.
18763  Economy / Economics / Re: Traditional Banks and Bitcoin on: April 10, 2015, 12:17:23 PM

I do not believe banks are genuinely interested in Bitcoin, they simply want to know their enemies.

Even if they find the whole thing odious and pathetic, hundreds of thousands of people are transacting happily away with it under their noses. That's got to catch their attention and they're going to at least consider how they can work their way into getting a piece of the pie.

Banks aren't there to benefit mankind or dictate policies, they exist to make a profit. If there's future profit in bitcoin then they'll be looking into it even if they think it's silly now. I'm sure plenty of banks were just as sluggish about the internet.



18764  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitstamp Withdrawal delay?! on: April 10, 2015, 12:20:56 AM
I've never used SEPA so this may be a totally different story, but when I have withdrawn from Stamp, it would be 2-5 business days just for it to show as completed. Then it took my US bank an additional 2 days + to actually credit my account. Some were fast and some were slow. I guess it all depends on the day they are having. Also, they may do batch transactions similar to a store accepting CC. Rather than doing a few every single day, they go once or twice a week and send many.

SEPA should be same day, often the same hour. Banking is rather more first world in the EU.
18765  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitstamp Withdrawal delay?! on: April 09, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
Cor blimey. Give the fella a break. Bank transfers can go wrong pretty easily. There hasn't been a squeak from anyone else about withdrawal problems. Open up a ticket and see what they're saying.
18766  Economy / Speculation / Re: [prediction] Next spike $560,000 14 months from now on: April 09, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
Only 7 months to go until $500K coins!!

Sweet. So a $2300 rise per day. Let's get rolling tomorrow morning and see if we can get off to a good start.
18767  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is your price speculation for BTC at the end of 2015? on: April 09, 2015, 08:26:27 PM
I've well and truly given up trying to predict anything any more. I'll go for it to bubble up to $100,000 and then back down to $100. That would be quite a firework show.
18768  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if YOU could put 1 feature, change, whatever, into the Bitcoin protocol? on: April 09, 2015, 08:21:42 PM
I would change than bitcoin would be mined slightly faster. I doubt that delaying the time of mining final bitcoin to year 2140 will be good in the long run. Time is of the essence here and our technology is changing so rapidly that in next 20 years we could have totally new leading cryptocurrency because someone will invite new internet protocol or something...

Inflation will be borderline nominal in 10-15 years though. Economics is a considerably more sluggish arena than technology. So far Satoshi made some eerily prescient decisions. One of them is probably realising how long it would take for a new economic concept to take root. You need to maintain that incentive to support its creation for quite some time. The move to pure tx fees for miners will have to be very gradual too.
18769  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 09, 2015, 07:57:58 PM

It's better to not keep people like that in your life, as hard as that can be sometimes. 

Unfortunately one can never quite tell until the vital moment has passed. As soon as I get a sniff of it these days then they're cut out of my life for all eternity. The world is harsh enough as it is. No point in surrounding yourself with worthless people.
18770  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i just saw a login screen for Gemini exchange on: April 09, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
Are you sure about this? This is why you install software like Lightshot and take screenshots.
This could mean that it is getting close to release, but it doesn't have to mean that. I'll rather wait for an official announcements than to have high hopes and be disappointed again.

I think it'll all hinge on the bitlicence and that's gone pretty quiet as of late. There might be final conditions in there that take a considerable amount of time to implement.
18771  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: i just saw a login screen for Gemini exchange on: April 09, 2015, 07:27:38 PM

not really. i dont see anything special about them anyway, too many rules

They'll be fully regulated and they'll have a proper banking relationship. No conventional market player or finance professional would go within a trillion miles of any of the present exchanges.

It's the first time there'll be an exchange that's on a par with every other financial market in the world.
18772  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 bitcoins. Will I be a millionaire by 2020? on: April 09, 2015, 07:17:55 PM
This has been argued to hell and as the first reply said, Satoshi is even unsure about the matter. I think Bitcoin is too unstable to become 10k per coin. We've seen it sky rocket before and it's collapsed because it can not self sustain itself of a price so high. Hypothetically if it did reach that, imagine the exchanges that could possibly collapse. Instead of a hundreds of thousands being lost, multiple millions will be lost. Every type of hacker would want a piece of it.

The existence of exchanges that actually aren't shit or run by children or thieves will be a major factor in pushing the price to that level. It will never happen without places that are bulletproof and accountable.

I'm pretty amazed it got to where it has with the wretched history of exchanges.
18773  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 09, 2015, 07:05:12 PM
All good advice. And...don't tell everybody that you have saved money, and don't give it away to anyone who asks. Be the guy that mysteriously can keep dry on a rainy day, and get out of trouble. Like a cat that always can land on its feet. (I wish I knew when I was young...)


Why help others when you can look cool?

Welcome to 2015 everyone!

A very sensible approach IMO. Money brings out the evil in an awful lot of people. If they sniff it then they'll take and take and take. People will throw away their deepest relationships for financial gain sometimes.
18774  Economy / Collectibles / Re: now shipping individual coins: casascius 2013 brass 0.5 and 1.0 individuals and sealed rolls on: April 09, 2015, 05:52:59 PM
Just received mine. Packaged well and rapidly delivered considering the distance. Thanks a lot.
18775  Economy / Economics / Re: Traditional Banks and Bitcoin on: April 08, 2015, 10:35:30 PM
I don't think they fully know what they're up to themselves. That's why they're up for messing around with it. I settle on none of the options so far.

No bank, other than a central one, has ever made its own currency and they're not going to start now. They might look for solutions for inter bank and international transfers. They might look at tokenisation like mintchip.

It'll be interesting to see if there are any conclusions and innovations. They might come up with nowt or grudgingly start to look at integrating Bitcoin in a modest way. There's a role they could play there.

18776  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Losses on: April 08, 2015, 09:54:00 PM

No, sorry I can't stop. I "must" recover that loss and gain another 15 btc for pay all my debt. Bitcoin is an extremely and huge world and I want to gain how much I can.


There's gotta be a more dependable way of gaining extra coins than that. If you are still gambling that means you must have some left.

And are you managing to pull it back so far?
18777  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2015, 08:06:28 PM


Whats your  criteria for an troll???

I give your list a try Smiley

It differs for everyone. My own criteria would be anyone whose opinions, or not even that, are 100% predictable and overwhelmingly worthless.
18778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if YOU could put 1 feature, change, whatever, into the Bitcoin protocol? on: April 08, 2015, 07:27:20 PM
I'm perfectly happy with how it operates at the moment. Uncool but true. Many present gripes will be addressed by layers built on top.

If we're allowed to run with our pie in the sky ideas, it would involve wiping out the centralisation of mining at its core and having the mining algorithm serve a worthier purpose on the side.
18779  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2015, 06:54:05 PM
Buy all the bitcoins you can, and you will get rich next week.

I'm already rich (sentimentally). Grin
Who cares about being rich in fiat money? Besides, don't forget: 1BTC=1BTC. Wink

100% of people reading your post.

For a decent amount it would be about being rich with BTC and chuckling at the fiat folks who never took the plunge. I for one would prefer to only splurge bitcoin, not anything else.
18780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NODE Revolution: "Money is a means of payment, not speculation" (с) on: April 08, 2015, 06:28:51 PM

i am frustrated about koop4u too and community already decided what to do but i dont know what @therealsik is thinking. Give someone else the job and try not to let things go slow.

He'll be back soon to mention giving the gig to others and then disappear again. Rinse and repeat. Weird.
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