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1881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: MANDATORY UPGRADE THIS THURSAY 26 feb on: February 24, 2015, 12:53:38 PM
Guerrilla Translation, a non profit political translation and media project now accepting faircoin donations
http://www.guerrillatranslation.org/donate/   Cheesy
1882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 23, 2015, 05:25:28 PM
do we need to move our coins in wallet to an exchange before the application of new algo?

No, it will be compatible with your wallet.dat file

in some minuts we are going to publish here all the steps that we will need to  do  Wink

1883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 19, 2015, 06:27:08 PM
The new generation of ethical online marketplaces is coming
http://www.shareable.net/blog/ethicalbay-the-coop-version-of-amazon-but-for-ethical-goods

We continue working on fairmarket and are going to collaborate with them promoting to accept faircoin
https://fair.coop/groups/fairmarket/forum/topic/sharing-knowledge-and-experience-from-similar-fair-markets/#post-4504
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: Thursday 26 february. on: February 17, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
Hello All

The release of the New Faircoin Wallet 1.5 with the new SHA-256 blockchain, is scheduled for thursday 26 february. The release procedure will be published very soon.

Anyway is important to take in account that, this new wallet will not be able for downloads until the 26 itself. Therefore you will need to be pending for 26 to finish the use of the current wallet, and begin the usage only of the new one.

keep pending of more updates!  Smiley
1885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 16, 2015, 03:01:47 PM
Hi, i´m running the beta wallet we only have 4 1.5 beta nodes at the moment, we need more people running beta nodes please

thank you all
i am one of them

Tested all of this and works smoothly

1. Download block chain
2. Send coins standard way
3. Send coins with coin control
4. Receive coins
5. Staking
6. Using existing wallet.dat file with the new software (also useful for
point 5)
1886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 15, 2015, 12:42:08 PM
what a long story!!! Grin

i have a question.
one of my friend got faircoin from the free Distribution, and he never move it to another address or never use it,
i want to know that if he can get his coin back after this reborn or he just lost it?

The easier action to do, is mint or move this coins during the next week before the new wallet release. By this way, the change will be updated automatically
and we dont will need to do nothing more for him mantaining the ownership.   Smiley

I think this change to sha is great and is also great to get rid of this 6 million missing coins.
To me Faircoin was just a pump and dump until you guys came up and give a real use for it.

And when a pump and dump happens the one who pump and dumps any coin gets to walk out with a big profit and also millions of coins.
So by changing to sha and taking back this 6 million coins will put Faircoins into 100 percent good hands.
Just my point of view.

Thanks!

Only to make it clear, at most 4 M will be recovered, not the 6.5 M lost...
1887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 15, 2015, 11:22:23 AM
what a long story!!! Grin

i have a question.
one of my friend got faircoin from the free Distribution, and he never move it to another address or never use it,
i want to know that if he can get his coin back after this reborn or he just lost it?

The easier action to do, is mint or move this coins during the next week before the new wallet release. By this way, the change will be updated automatically
and we dont will need to do nothing more for him mantaining the ownership.   Smiley
1888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 14, 2015, 08:46:31 PM
Hi all.

After this some critizing i am going more in deep to share information and argument that is related with this redistribution decition.

Sorry but is a long reading, the big decitions needs big arguments!!

i have distributed your questions by some topics, therefore with this extended explanation i feel that all the big concerns have an answer in this document:


Democratic process question
First af all, this is not a suddently decition of the Faircoin dev team, but a very thought  and discussed decition of more than two months that was talked in person in the FairCoop Winter meeting,
(see: https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/forum/topic/winter-summit-overview/ )
and has also been discused again, with a broad consensus, by the Faircoop ecosystem Council, which is curently the political risponsable to endorse this kind of decition.

In the discussion was proposed some more radical options, like recover regularly all the coins not minted or moved for a long term (aka, one year), but this kind of options was discarded.

The option approved seems to all the people with the whole picture of the FairCoop plans, and the past situations in faircoin, a prudent balance between the tradition of cryptocurrencies, and the culture of the groups and social movements that are being parte of the FairCoop process.

We value the descentralized and trustless decition process which Bitcoin ledger philosophy is based, and we see that in general this is also important by FairCoin, but Faircoop is trying to mix different philosophies  that never was together before, and to make it possible in an inclusive way we need to be flexible and innovative, this means consider all the key values like the descentralized ledger from bitcoin and equality from faircoop, but be able to make balanced decitions taking all in account.

Bitcoin vs Faircoin.  Pure descentralization vs political open participatory process.

Currency creation from Bitcoin and Faircoin was very different. To own Bitcoin ever had a cost, by mining, by working, or by buying BTC.  (well, not ever, because there are a lot of stole BTC...this is  problem to no forget...)

On the other hand in the first distribution of Faircoin, a small amount of people received a gift by free and without doing nothing special for it. This creates a relation between the old holders and new ones that is very different that how it works in BTC, and could make different the better choises to do..

A second point here, related to this, is that which in the Bitcoin model is called consensus, is not really a political consensus, but an imposition of the most powerful nodes though the less powerful. In the case of staking coins like Faircoin, this way would be an imposition of the bigger savers to the rest of the holders.

The FairCoop model, that we are developing for faircoin is based in human consensus.
And this is not based in holding coins, but in human political discussions, that are open to all the community, and have different tools to make possible a conclusion, like the lead of the Ecosystem council, the open discussion in the Fairnetwork, and direct voting systems.
Some documents about it:
https://fair.coop/decisions-process/
https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/forum/topic/methodological-document-from-the-ecosystemic-council/

This model is not yet fully operative, we are conscient of it. We need more participation and some time to bring the process working.  Anyway the participation in the Fairnetwork is growing up already today... https://fair.coop/social-network/ and the things are advancing propertly.

Therefore this blockchain decision is not yet a model about how decitions will work in FairCoop/Faircoin, but a transition process, in this yet very early stage of the FairCoop developments.

And this is an special decition that does not create any precedent.  A decition that is needed to close a stage, and to continue with more force.




First History of faircoin and Mintpal episody

The story of Faircoin is very special and helps to understand why we are now doing this unique decition.  The launch of the wallet was very crapy and very strange things happened with the coin the firsts weeks. It was some kind of hack in the first exchange nxt-e, and after that a hard confrontation between the dev team and the exchange team; also two involunteer hardforks, and
The first developers leave the project around finally of April 2014.

After all of this, we got the take over of the coin in main and some month afters, related this with the project of FairCoop.

But we had the bad surpress, that after doing an important work recovering the coins from Mintpal – we was the first coin to get the coins back-  they send us only the 69% of the coins that they had in balances.

Remember:
The Mintpal Wallet contained:                      14946903.112935999408 FAIR
The balance of the account data counted:   21787698.41457512 FAIR
Faircoins withdrawed in mintpal v2:               -243666,36021 FAIR
Coins missing:                                               -6597129,30163912


And after many hours analizing the blockchain we dont know what happen but seems that there was some evident relation between this problems of the beginning of faircoin and the mintpal lost coins.

Otherwise, when we gave everyone the 100% of the coins, that was stored in Mintpal, all of you was happy with this action, but we already explained that this was possible because we was delaying the recovering of coins belonging to users from an investment funds that i (smartaction) manage.  And also other users that claimed their coins after the wallet was empty...

What seems a bit strange to me is at the same time be happy with that decitions and critize now at the moment that we need to complete this process and left it behind us. Without the determination that we are doing now, this past decition dont would not have been possible

Anyway, from the point of view of the Faircoin history, we can see this current decition, as the way to  breaking with the past,  in a mode that only can happen one time. A kind of reborn, after which, we will be full responible of our present and future.


The 2 M for developements. Why? 


The recovering of unused coins, will be at the most around 4M. Not 6.5M at was lost on mintpal, but not 2M at was pending to recover from there...
This amount comes from the criteria that we followed to identify the coins that has been unused.
There 4M are the coins that comes from the first distribution and has been unused neither minted from the first beginning. We can have the full confirmation that this coins hasnt had any cost and also the full confirmation that there was not any reciprocity to the faircoin community or security (aka, minting at leats one time is a kind of reciprocity) Anyway this is a very flexible criteria,
because as has been stated if some one shows ownership of this coins yet after the change of blockchain he will mantaint it ownership..
Therefore this 2M, are a maximum amount but is not garanteed. And the amount that finally keeps for this fund, will mean a change from abandoned coins to redistributed coins to some working in FairCoop/Faircoin developements, in a way that will be decided in an open participatory process.

Anyway, why to recover this unused coins?  As i explained before, the way how was firstly distributed the 50M faircoin is too much unfair, from the vision of lot of newcomers to the FairCoop process. There are a lot of people that is doing or will do, a lot of work for the Faircoop/Faircoin process and dont have yet any faircoin, or not will have if we dont create this fund.
This is meaning that we also are receiving some nagging from people involved in FairCoop that not understand why to pay for buying faircoin to people that received it for free, and has did nothing to create value.

As we decided take over this coin, we dont can change the past, but now, taking profit that we are moving to a new blockchain, we have an unique opportunity, to balance some justice for the people involved in the current and future developements.

Therefore, as a FairCoop ecosystem council and Faircoin developement team, we are trying to manage the equilibrium between everyone different perspectives, and we have seen this decition of recovering unused coins, one time, as the fairer way to create this balance

So, from the global perspective of all the process, i would like to ask to everyone here, to be comprensive with this one time special decition that we are taking which will be in benefit of the involvement and confidence of everyone related Faircoop and Faircoin





As a summary which funds will remain after the  new blockchain is working?

Because some comments are managing unaccurate info, i will like to summarize again the funds in hands of FairCoop,

10.3 MILIONS CURRENTLY

FOR LONG TERM, Most of this funds was presentedd with the FairCoop launch in september, and 300.000 has been added with minting and some donations coming from the coopfunding.net initiative.

This 10.3M are distributed like this:
Global south fund   5120946,839046
Commons fund   2571084,070319
Infraestrcuture fund   1584455,940681
pooled fund      1021176,85


A NEW FUND OF 2 MILIONS -AT MOST- FOR SHORT TERM DEVELOPMENTS

About this new fund the decition will be made openly by the Faircoop community, that can include everyone here because the participation is open. Already there are a thread open here to decide the most important priorities for bounties:  https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/forum/topic/bounties-for-faircoop-developement/


What mean this for value . This is like creating money for nothing?

Is a very simplistic approachment to believe that to put in circulation 4M of coins (that was already in the supply anyway!), therefore less than the 8% of coins  is bad for the faircoin value.  Every distribution of coins will have a relation with the perception of value depending of what is created in exchange of this distribution.
In the concrete situation, of the 2 Milion for faircoin developements is a case clear precisely that distribution is going to create better perception of value and not the opposite. For example if 100000 coins are distributed in exchange of a new payment processor for online marketplaces, this will mean an important step in the faircoin usefulness that will atract more and more products and services, more an more people involved, etc.. with  value very bigger than 0,2% of the growth of distribution that it means.

I have a big expertise in economics and i perceive a lot of misunderstanding in the cryptocurrency world, related how creation of real value and money creation needs to be related. If you want to learn more about it i suggest some readings like: 

http://fundersandfounders.com/the-history-of-creating-value/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_credit

So,  bad inflation comes when money is created without wealth creation; and not ever that money is created is bad...
For example, if we distribute money in exchange of service/projects creation, specially if is innovative and worthy for the faircoin ecosystem, the creation ups the value, not the opposite!



Technical developements

Tom, has already just explained what will mean this new blockchain for faircoin usefullnes.
Our blockchain will be 40 times faster!!!   
But not only this... If we has been silent last months related new technical developements, is because this are being developed for Sha256, therefore after the new blockchain, we will have accesible finally this improvements. This will include the pending android wallet, and more other surprises...

I feel, that this is what mainly matters really of this announcement.... Faircoin will became, finally,  a currency well prepared for the real world use!!!

In fact at the technical level this is not a hard fork, but a reborn with a new blockchain, a new database system. A new blockchain which is compatible with your wallet.dat thanks to the very hard work from our core developer, Tom.

Conclusion

The decition of taking profit of this pending blockchain change, to recover the unused coins of the initial distribution is a very thought one. I invite everyone to take in consideration all explained here and trust this key and unique decition for the better of Faircoin.


Well, this is all for today... thanks for being reading until here :-)

1889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 13, 2015, 08:38:29 PM
Just published in FairCoop twitter: https://twitter.com/fair_coop   Cheesy

The local nodes option in https://www.getfaircoin.net  is ready!  There are new options  to buy #faircoin with cash in Catalonia and Porto

If you want to setup a new point of exchange (POE) in your city, contact us! Join this new network of personal relations to change economy!

1890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 13, 2015, 09:59:49 AM
The galician collective of political prisoners also accepts FairCoin for donations.
https://network23.org/cpig/doacons/

Smiley

This is  interesting news. We are going to promote faircoin as the currency of the solidarity, and here a first exemple,
soon more initiaitves in this sense  Wink
1891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 12, 2015, 11:51:43 PM
imho, it is a terrible idea to even think about editing the ledger. If the coin are lost, so be it. In my point of view, faircoin will lost a lot of credibility if they do that.

I would like if you could share any argument of your opinion, because i dont see nothing in deep that sustain it.

Otherwise
I see that Faircoin was the first coin that was distributed freely to everyone in this forum that asked for  it. So was distributed without paying money, neither spending energy to get it.  And that about 7/8 %  of coins that was distributed for free, dont was staked neither used in near of a year; and most of them was abandoned or lost for lack of interest.
So, this is like a gift that the first day is abandoned in the middle of nowhere

And we are going to redistribute this unused amount, to people that has put money for it, or is going a put time and energy in projects related faircoin.  This for the faircoin dev team and the Faircoop community is fair enough....


On the other hand, the credibitily of faircoin not depends of the usual cryptoworld values (like, "omg edite the ledger is a crime"  Wink ), but of the values of the peoples around the world that have affinity with the FairCoop aims and principles, of cooperation ans social justice, among others; and i can say you that for the people with this values, to make a very different project than bitcoin at the level of values, will be a way to increase the credibility of Faircoin.

We are going to go far in this Faircoin evolution and this is only early stages related with this process.

Anyway, this is an interesting discussion that would be better if sharing arguments in deep,  Smiley

1892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] NEXT 1.5 FairCoin Wallet Release: CALL FOR TESTERS on: February 12, 2015, 08:18:54 PM
Can we leave our coins on an exchange and let them take care of the swap?

I have coins from the initial distribution that I never moved from the original address they were sent to. Can I just send them to an exchange and leave the swap to them?

I feel the coin swap is not fair to holders who do not hear about it in time. I could have dumped during the big pump but chose to hold instead. Others like me could find they have had all their coins taken from them because they decided to hold and did not keep up on the latest developments.

Firstly. If you have minted your coins, in anytime, you dont have any problem because you wallet has been active. The recuperation of coins only is going to affect, wallets that has not been open from march 2014.  So it not affect holders, but only people that abandoned faircoin from the  very beginning.
Anyway obviously if you move the coins also serves to mantain the control of the coins, but as i commented you dont need to do nothing if you have minted any time.

Secondly. We are yet in testing phase, there are not a date confirmed for the hard fork.

Third. As the statement explains, yet if someone recover acces to his wallet and shows ownership after the hardfork will be able to mantain their coins.

Therefore, With this process all the faircoin community will be beneficiated,  Cheesy
1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: February 10, 2015, 10:53:21 AM
Hey,

i have published a list of bounties to promote FairCoop / Faircoin developement
you can make your suggestions there:

https://fair.coop/groups/faircoop-community/forum/topic/bounties-for-faircoop-developement/#post-4227
1894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: February 07, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
maybe "just a text" button ?



this one could be also useful, perhaps in different scenarios, for promoting faircoin!
1895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: February 04, 2015, 02:34:03 PM
i moved away only because for buttons simple images are more clear on lower resolution, new gallery here with official logo:

http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/tvcwv9m9yzkn0qss6cjzboq3isk8tvvm



thanks for your work.
but i  think  http://fair-coin.org/images/FairCoin.png  is good enough.
we dont need to change the logo.


As i understood, the proposal from jack is an image that could work with the http://www.chip-chap.com app
you can see there that  every way of payment have a rectangular image, not a circular one, like our logo.
So i see that this could be useful.

Otherwise the company is free about choosing this image with the oficial logo or with another one...
If you search about bitcoin you can get a lot of not official logos being spread... and it works!
1896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: February 03, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
Important news for all the faircoin community:

#faircoin stake reward halving occurred on 1st of February 2015 at 00:00 UTC. It's now at 3% p.a. instead of 6%. Current supply: 51373740.9
1897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: February 03, 2015, 04:23:58 PM

http://chip-chap.com/en

"Bitcoin, Ukash, HalCash, PaysafeCard , FairCoin ... All payment methods are !! not discriminate against anyone !!"


https://twitter.com/chipchapapp

This people is working also with faircoin  Cheesy





No logo for this app, maybe i can help ?




Thanks Jack, i will share this proposal to the company working on this  Smiley
1898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: January 29, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
is anything gonna happen to the price of this coin?! I hold a small bag wondering if i should dump or hold it

We dont have a magic wand, but we are working day by day in the Faircoop and faircoin projects with a big vision at long term
and involving every time more and people.
As i said some days ago, besides fairmarket that is going to be launched next month, there are other developments that will be launched shortly...
1899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: January 28, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
Please read and share my personal / political campaign! Also important for improve the coordination team of FairCoop

#‎ReturntoFreedom‬
A call to unite and build support networks online and on-the-ground.

After 2 years of living underground and out of the public eye, the time has finally come for me to get ready for my journey back to freedom. The journey won’t be easy, and will require a lot of work to build widespread support. This is the reason for making this appeal to create teams for the ongoing collaborative effort needed in order to make this happen.

The most concrete and important part of this call is extending the invitation to proactive and motivated people who are available to travel for a period of time. I want to form a team of 6 or 7 people, exceptionally confident and available for in-person cooperation directly with me. We will change locations as necessary, in order to achieve our goals:

#returntofreedom and ‪#‎faircoop‬

https://enricduran.cat/en/returntofreedom/

You can read carefully and if interested fill this form: To qualify for participation in this group, you must first do the following:
– Send a letter explaining your motivation to info@enricduran.cat
– Fill out this form: https://fair.coop/in-person-form
1900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FAIR] Second Faircoop bulletin and Getfaircoin.net launch on: January 26, 2015, 01:14:46 PM
www.getfaircoin.net has changed the price from  1 € = 200 FAIR  to   1 € = 165 FAIR  

And now getfaircoin shows a ticker of value in 30 national currencies to make easy to buy from everywhere!   Cheesy

Look like a nice site. Keep up the good work!

Great works, bye bye Bitcoin Smiley

Well obviously Bitcoin is here to stay... and Faircoin is taking profit of a lot of technological bitcoin developments, that we was not able to do so fast if Bitcoin dont exist before.

But yes, We are building a social, cooperative and fair cryptocurrency also to stay and expand, step by step. New developments coming very, very soon  Cheesy
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