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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 09, 2017, 04:36:28 PM
The only smart way you can do in gambling is quitting for good. You can't beat how gambling because it's totally random and some online sites also cheat players so your chances are still thin even you have many strategies.

How can you say that you are gambling in a smart way if you are going to quit for good? You're teaching gamblers to quit as if there they are that wants to know how to gamble in a smart way. Tell gamblers to quit for good if they are severely gambling without any precautions and they are even using their savings spending it like there's no tomorrow. The only resolution to that situation is to tell them quit for good.

Quitting gambling is good right? because we cant really keep wasting our money in a place that give no chance to win. It is better to use the money for investment. If we spend our money in investment, it is better because we can get a good chance to get some money so we should only treat gambling as a way of entertainment
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 09, 2017, 04:34:18 PM
I keep coming back, caz i am an addicted! It's hard to admit but it's the truth. I might able to stop for few days after a big loss, but then again come back and try to win back, but unfortunately it's not that easy to win back and lose more. and the pattern continue ..

Why do you wait to stop after you lose a big amount? you are going to waste alot of money if you keep doing that. I know that it is hard to stop but in the very least you could do what I do. I play for fun with small amount and dont care if I win or lose, by doing this I could keep on playing without having to lose alot
1883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: November 09, 2017, 04:21:14 PM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue
Choosing both are profitable for us but those two have differences in taking a risk.Gambling are based on luck if we win on it we are not sure if our money will back if we go on gambling winning here is a quick profit while in trading is a long term investment and we need to wait patiently to turn our money profitable.
Trading is more dependent on skill, so if you have a good skill then your patience will get a worthy reply. While gambling is more dependent on luck and no matter how great your skill is, if you're unlucky then it will not matter-what

It is not really depends on skill because skill is not really helping us. We need to have experience when we gamble because if we do so then we will be having advantage over the other trader when we are trading. It is not the same case for gambling because gambling totally depends on our luck and we are not going to win anyway
1884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 09, 2017, 04:04:56 PM
Skills and knowledge doesn't apply to those games are only basing to luck. Not all the gamblers are depending on their skills and knowledge, they are also using others tip to survive with their sports bets. Tough decisions are not made base on what you do know and what you are experiencing, sometimes you had to depend on the situation regarding on how many times you fall and how much money you got for betting.


The best thing from game that is based on luck is that the result is instant that is why if we are playing for fun. It doesnt matter wether we win or lose because the main point is not about winning or losing but about having fun. In the end we know that we cant win so no point for us to discuss wether it is better to win or to lose in the game

It's not the best thing on that game, you know what's best? Is when you are winning with your luck, it's useless to say that it is the best thing through those luck based games and then you are not winning. How come that it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, you may have fun but it's even funnier and enjoyable if you are winning some money. Don't care about the fun when you have no more money to gamble.

Well it is different for you and for me. For me I dont really care about wether I win or lose because as long as I am having fun then I think Im good with that. Some people like you might feel not satisfied with the result if you lose but I am different so I dont really care because even If I win the amount is not that high anyway
1885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 09, 2017, 03:38:33 PM
Instead of gambling, why don't you just invest, work for Bitcoin or sell items for Bitcoin? In this way, your bitcoin savings are more fixed and less risky.

I think alot of people dont earn in bitcoin that is why it is not possible. Some people will gamble so that they could get more bitcoin. They dont think that they have other option to get bitcoin that is why they do it . I think that is wrong however if people play for fun then it is fine because if we are playing for fun it is less risky and at the same time save our bitcoin
1886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 08, 2017, 09:05:58 PM
I do stop whenever I feel bored or continue loosing games. I always bet with small amount and cash out when I reach my targeted amount. I have lost some serious amount in past and learned from my mistakes that if you continue playing even after wining some big amounts then you'll surely loose in the end so set yourself some limit then stop playing.

It is better to stop completely if you could because we cant win so setting the upper limit of some profit to stop is not the best thing to do. In the end we need to think that gambling is just for entertainment so it is better to set limit on your bankroll , by doing this you are limiting the risk of losing alot of money when you are playing
1887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: November 08, 2017, 09:00:23 PM
Skills and knowledge doesn't apply to those games are only basing to luck. Not all the gamblers are depending on their skills and knowledge, they are also using others tip to survive with their sports bets. Tough decisions are not made base on what you do know and what you are experiencing, sometimes you had to depend on the situation regarding on how many times you fall and how much money you got for betting.


The best thing from game that is based on luck is that the result is instant that is why if we are playing for fun. It doesnt matter wether we win or lose because the main point is not about winning or losing but about having fun. In the end we know that we cant win so no point for us to discuss wether it is better to win or to lose in the game
1888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: November 08, 2017, 07:58:44 PM
I agree. It can be considered gambling due to the risk it carries, and due to actually what's being traded. Considering the volatility in value plus the market trends that keep on changing, you can actually consider trading like you are gambling because of the fact that your results would be unsure. Therefore, winning meaning earning, or losing, meaning losing your investment would be hard to gauge.


It is not really the same because in gambling we cant win money for sure . I just think that some people dont know the difference but they think because it has the risk then it is the same. Sometimes it is almost similar but it is definitely not the same, it is different because investment supposed to make us some money but we cant get that in gambling
1889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: November 08, 2017, 04:39:27 PM
Ofcourse im happy i have a high profit, feeling good Cheesy but also scary coz when you experience to win you want to reapeat again and again, after that you do not know that you are losing until youre all gone Sad

Thats what made us addicted and if we cant control that then we are going to lose alot of our money . I know that feeling very well, we win one time and we want to try our luck again right? however we know that we cant be lucky all the time, the next time means that we are going to lose. We are going to lose and then we will try to get back what we lose
1890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 08, 2017, 04:12:58 PM
Gambling the smart way actually means that you are not going to put all the money that you have on your to gamble especially when you know there are things that you need to take care of in the first place. A ms art gambler knows when to bet and when not to bet.

Yeah, it is a simple rule to play gambling, only use limited money, it doesn't mean that you are gambler then all the time you use your whole money in gambling, be smart and play in a smart way. I agree with you, it is art of a good gambler that you must know when you do bet and when you should stop on your betting.   

Use small amount of money and set limit. That the smart play that everyone can do, eve if you use small amount of money but if you dont set any limit then it is useless because when you lose you will add more bankroll and play again. Alot of people did this mistake when they set no limit so if you want to play smartly setting limit is the best thing
1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 07, 2017, 06:07:37 PM
The reason that makes me gamble again is because it's fun or i can be called gambling addiction.
I think gambling is fun even though gambling sometimes makes me stress because of defeat. Perhaps one way to stop and not gamble again is to look for other activities that are more useful and more profitable than gambling.
To be honest i find it hard to get out of gambling, because i feel gambling has become a part of my life.

It is good that you treat it as entertainment but sooner or later we should stop . We know that we should stop someday. I do feel that it is becoming like part of my life as well but I cant do this forever. For now , I just enjoy it and treat it as entertainment. I say that Im better than most people around here that treat it only as tool to make money
We don't need to stop if we can responsibly gamble, it's really fun if we have the control and we know how much we can only afford to spend.
Being wise is what we need to last in this kind of risky game, never get attracted with the big reward because that is only a trap to make you lose even more.

I think that It is better to stop if you can stop because alot of people want to stop but they just cant stop. Some people spend alot of money and time in a gambling site just to waste that. If you play for fun then it is fine but sooner or latr everyone needs to stop because spending time in everything like that is really a waste of your life
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: November 07, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
I think it's too much hope to make gambling a profitable activity (like trading? maybe). Because basically gambling always bring emotions and give hope into the condition of alot money easily without skill.

Unfortunately the only way to turn it into a profitable activity is to invest in a gambling site. We cant win in gambling so we should only play for fun and forget everything about trying to make money from it. We dont need to think about anything else instead of just having fun because that is the reason that gambling was invented for us
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 07, 2017, 05:48:54 PM
Im playing bustabit with some altcoins, wich they offer free of the coin to gamble, i do remember had reached a nice ammount, but well looks like im not able to control myself, i were gamble and i let into one goal, next day i reached the other, and i tryed two more times, the funny thing is if i lost 100 i make the bet bigger soo i take less risk, but well its the seventh time i do reach some balance and end loosing all, i need to change my goal and focus into small steps instead try to jump all in.
you might start to gamble with the free money provided there but still i'm sure sooner or later you would think to gamble with your own funds , that's the part of marketing strategy on how to make people interested and addicted later on. at that point i can't see any chance for anyone to stop it easily.

Alot of people think that if they are gambling with free money, that means they are gambling. I dont think that it is considered gambling but you are still playing the games. Well if it is only for fun then no complaint with it as long as people can have fun but I totally will not be having fun and if I keep doing this free faucet thing then I might not know when to stop
1894  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: November 07, 2017, 11:15:42 AM
of course you will be happy. moreover if you bet a large amount, surely you will be very happy with it. well, I've felt it a few times, and it really feels good. but, if you lose, it's very painful. but I feel that it's something reasonable.
You'll only be happy at the beginning but the moment you understand you are losing you are beginning to loss control and that could result to chasing bets. We can only be happy if we will be comfortable with what we are betting, let's understand the risk more than the amount we can win because gambling casinos are not operating profitably when they do not have the edge over their clients or gamblers.

The main question is only what do you feel when you win, we should not take further topic. Win means profit, so it should be a happy time for any gamblers no matter what will happen in the next plays and no matter how much they have lost previously. Win is still a win, a time which is being expected by all gamblers.


Win doesnt always means profit because for me, I do feel that I win because I am having fun. If I am having fun then I am happy that means I win because I fulfill what I want when I decided to gamble. It is not the same for other people but it is for me so this is a great thing for me when I play because I am having fun no matter what the result is
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 07, 2017, 11:09:01 AM
Actually both have almost the same place but the way it is done is very different. So if we just look at the cover it will surely say that the two are very different, to choose I think both will I choose. Because gambling and trading have different term investments, and both places must also have very strong self-control and also the right strategy if not then the investment will definitely get a loss.


Both are not same because gambling gives you thrill and excitement while playing these games but in investments, you will not get these thrills. Investment risks can be reduced if you study the market well and diversify your funds properly but in gambling, you can't reduce your losing chances because it only depends on your luck.

The risk for investment is lower but also I can say that it is more profitable. If we invest in a dice site then we are going to get profit for sure. In gambling site, we are going to get profit together with the site owner so I say that it is really a good thing. Gambing site gets profit over time because of the house edge so the more people wager the higher the profit
1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: November 07, 2017, 08:32:56 AM
I usually don’t win that much in gambling but the very first time I had won was that I gave my winnings which was converted to our local currency to my mother. And she was so happy that time, I still give her some good amount of money especially if I have high profits from my trading too.
In my opinion, it is the best use of the money won I have ever heard. Actually, I believe that money is not merely important for fulfilling your daily needs. It could also be used as a way to spread pleasure among your family members by giving them a surprise or so.

You have chosen to give all your winnings to your mom. I won some days back though it wasn’t a big amount but I presented it to my daughter on her birthday

Some says money can't buy happiness, this quote maybe suit for some people who doesn't experience to starve or they're born rich but for some people that born in a poor family money is indeed can buy their happiness and I think it's not being greedy in money but more likely giving value to it. And yeah when we sometimes won instead of treating ourselves in a fancy restaurant all we did is to give it to our love ones that we knew it will bring them a beautiful smile. And their smiles are worth more than hitting a jackpot price.

Being happy with alot of money has nothing to do with gambling because we cant win alot of money from gambling. Everyone knows this right but some people will hit the jackpot for sure. That some people that hit the jackpot is nothing compared to the amount of people that lose. So it is better to play for fun without worrying things
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 07, 2017, 07:24:36 AM
The reason that makes me gamble again is because it's fun or i can be called gambling addiction.
I think gambling is fun even though gambling sometimes makes me stress because of defeat. Perhaps one way to stop and not gamble again is to look for other activities that are more useful and more profitable than gambling.
To be honest i find it hard to get out of gambling, because i feel gambling has become a part of my life.

It is good that you treat it as entertainment but sooner or later we should stop . We know that we should stop someday. I do feel that it is becoming like part of my life as well but I cant do this forever. For now , I just enjoy it and treat it as entertainment. I say that Im better than most people around here that treat it only as tool to make money
1898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: November 06, 2017, 08:27:34 PM
Every body has it's own limitations. In gambling you must put limitations on the time you spend with, set up limits also in your money or bankroll not just only once but manage it until it earns profit. I believe that those gamblers who put limits is always win the game.

We do have our own limits but most of the addicted ones they don't know on how they'll take those limits. I, myself does have known my limit when I gamble and I don't want to trust myself when I'm on the loose because I can lose everything with my bare hand in gambling.
A person who has not actually fallen into the trap of gambling addiction has some sort of limits put in front of him before he starts to gamble the amount he had saved in his bank account.

I myself face much difficulty in setting up limits because it has now become a way too difficult for me after being a gambler for such a long time .this is a serious threat of course because it keeps you coming back even if you lose again and again.
I sure do make sure that I have set up limits when I do gamble, since I stopped going to the casino to gamble, I make sure that I do it online and even with that I have a fixed amount of money that I gamble with every week and whether I win or lose I don't go above it no matter what.


Thats atleast good for you, atleast you can stop if you do that. Some people keep going over the limit everytime they try to get under the limit they will go over it especially when they lose. Some people cant stand when they lose, it gets on their nerves everytime they lose and they will try to get back what they lose eventually
1899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 06, 2017, 08:11:34 PM
What keeps me coming back in gambling is illusion, I remember when I'm newbie into gambling I was so idiot didn't realize that winning is losing. The more I bet the more I'm falling into the pit. Addiction, adrenaline, excitement, are just an excuse for you to seek the meaning of gambling.

What keeps you coming back is different for each one of us. For example, I come back because I want to have fun not to get money. For some other people , they want to try to win some money. For some other, they just want to burn some money and chat with their friend so itis different and everyone got their own reason on why they keep coming back
1900  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: November 06, 2017, 07:58:30 PM
When i win in gambling, i will save some of what i get and some that i will use for my life's needs.
I personally, when playing gambling is not much bet, because i think gambling is not a source of regular income, gambling is just a fortune.
A good aspect that everyone should remember " Gambling is not source of Income". Everyone know that gambling isn't a source of income but still we insist to do so just because we experienced winning and earning money due to your beginners luck but after that luck goes out that's the time we loses and still trying to win even though we're on the losing side already and not knowing that we're addicted already so better we keep our gambling steady in such a way that we know what we came for and end when we get that or if isn't there anymore.
I quite agree with your stance, I am yet to see anyone be able to use gambling a source of steady income throughout their lives. It's never possible at all. But with gambling there comes a time that when you have won enough money, it's better to call it quits and spend the money you have been able to accrue.
when you have realized and considered gambling as something that not really a proper place for you to make money steady for your daily needs then i think you can't expect a winning at all whenever you do gamble. just take the feeling so entertained as your rewards , not the value behind your winning. you might bought something after the winning but in the next days you would regret to do so.

Alot of people expect to get alot of money from gambling so people will keep playing. Thats what you get when you expect that you can be rich from gambling. That is why it is better to play for fun and hope for nothing .If we do this then we wont really have any regret at all even if we lose because we will only use small amount of money
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