Sorry but I think this is realy poor work, I would not say anything unless I knew the in's and out's or what was being proposed
...Also, I have never heard of a "default trust list" lol where is it? can I see it?
 If you don't know what default trust is how can you understand how it works? For some reason you have melded two different statements together, Let me explain, I always thought the trust rating was between members, I understood this and that is what I like, I did not, However, Knew that the forum had it's own trust based settings, I did not know that if you delete all the members you personally add, you will obtain a trust rating based on the forum. Sometimes I write here what I would say to someone who knows me, Sorry for the confusion.  |
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He asked me whether he could demonstrate that the Trust system is broken. I said that he could, though I didn't know exactly what he was planning, and I don't like what he's doing here. Trust isn't the right way to respond to people whose posts you dislike. If I'd have known that he was going to do this, I would have warned him that it would probably result in significant backlash...
I'm happy with the performance of the Trust system here so far. I have a few more default-untrusted negative ratings, but Inaba's default trust score went from ~5 to -261 overnight. (I did not change anything about how the Trust system works for this.)
Sorry but I think this is realy poor work, I would not say anything unless I knew the in's and out's or what was being proposed. In a way, I do like the trust system, But I still don't like the fact there is no uber control, Over people posting for reasons you have mentioned, like because they dont like your posts. This is nothing more than a flame war, Bought down to its basic component level. And it's here because everyone has a voice and has the right to be heard on bitcointalk, I have personally been on the fence, Knowing the animosity growing between these two sites, But I am totally behind this site, I can understand a demonstration of a flawed trust based system, But making a competition out of it and dragging in people who in his eyes are trolling him, That is totally out of order. But enough of my rant, Is the system staying? Will we have some tweaks or some control over this? Also, I have never heard of a "default trust list" lol where is it? can I see it? |
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Sorry for asking something that has been asked alot, But there seams to be no answer (not that I can understand)
How can the unit draw 1Kw and only have a 1Kw PSU? This will not last long!!
Can anyone explain why this is a good move in laymen terms please.
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I normally don't quote as many things are regurgitated here many times, But I have to do this one from BFL website. Win a Butterfly Labs Imperial Monarch! In an effort to demonstrate and consequently improve and repair the trust rating system on Bitcointalk, I am holding a contest that will provide concrete examples of how the trust system is broken on Bitcointalk. I have spoken with Theymos, the operator of Bitcointalk, about this and I have his full knowledge and permission to perform this experiment, with the prize being an Imperial Monarch to one lucky winner! Starting now and running until we start shipping the 28nm Monarch based products, anyone may enter into the contest by posting to the trust feedback system on Bitcointalk. Each entrant must make 6 separate trust entries. There will be 3 positive entries that must be made and 3 negative entries that must be made. You must make all 6 entries each day to be eligible for the drawing on the day we ship the products. On the day we officially start shipping, the contest entries will be closed. The next block to be found on or after midnight UTC of the following day will be the winning block. We will use Bitcoin Blockchain raffle ticket picker to decide the winning number. Entry numbers will be taken in order they are posted each day and numbering of each day after the first will continue where the previous day left off. The winning number will be chosen at random via the blockchain. Entrants may make one entry per day. Multiple entries per day will be ignored and only one valid entry will be allowed per day. Summary of the rules: 1. One entry per person, per day. 2. Entries will consist of 3 positive and 3 negative Trust entries on Bitcointalk.org to the accounts specified. (Listed below) 3. Entries will close the day we ship our first Monarch product to a paying customer. Entries will be accepted up to 23:59 UTC of that day. 4. The winner will be chosen at random via the next block on or after 00:00 (midnight) UTC the day after we begin shipping. 5. The winning list will be compiled through taking each set of 6 entries by a single individual per day and entering their name in the list, in order of posting as displayed by the Bitcointalk.org website. Each subsequent day after the first will start where the previous days list left off. 6. Trust entries must not be cut and pasted from previous days and must be unique each day. Entries must not be gibberish or otherwise unintelligible entries. (Sorry, but you will have to put some thought into it!) 7. DO NOT SPAM MULTIPLE ENTRIES! THERE IS ONLY ONE ENTRY ALLOWED PER DAY. Multiple entries per day are useless and likely to be removed. Anyone found spamming the system will be disqualified. 8. Only valid Bitcointalk accounts registered prior to the 28th of March, 2014 are allowed to enter. Accounts registered after this date are ineligible to participate. 9. Incorrect feedback type will disqualify an entry. (For example, leaving a negative feedback on one of the positive accounts or a positive feedback on a negative account will be disqualified.) 10. Shipping of the winning entry will be at the end of the current pre-order queue. Although I will try to slip in the shipment of the entry earlier than that if we have a gap in the queue based on anyone electing to take a refund, but I can not guarantee that at the moment, as I don't know if we'll have enough refunds to allow that without compromising paying customers shipping schedule. 11. If the operator(s) of Bitcointalk or other entities decide to discontinue this demonstration/experiment early or disallow the feedback for any reason, this contest becomes null and void. I will design a new contest to replace this one in just such an occurrence with the same prize available. Leave Positive feedback for these three accounts: Inaba: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=8198 BFL_Josh: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=63314 BFL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=44366 Leave Negative feedback for these three accounts: Theymos: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=35 Dogie: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=87869 Bicknellski:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=76550 Background information on the reasons behind this contest: Many people believe that the trust system on Bitcointalk is not only useless, but actually counter productive to a fair and balanced system for evaluating the viability of conducting trade on Bitcointalk. There are countless examples of the system being gamed, and false ratings being applied to individuals, unrelated to any sort of actual trust scenarios. Many scammers use this as a method to instill trust in their victims, allowing them to continue scamming with impunity. Other use the trust system as a way to air grievances, which is not a valid use of the system and also contributes to false rating levels for numerous individuals. The operators of Bitcointalk do not believe the system is broken and further more do not believe it can be gamed. With the small time gaming that has happened in the past, it is hard to differentiate legitimate feedback from illegitimate feedback. This contest, I believe, will conclusively prove that the system can easily be gamed in one direction or the other with minimal effort. Per the rules of the contest, there will be an equal number of positively gamed trust accounts as negatively gamed trust accounts, which will definitively prove that either direction is possible. I have spoken to Theymos at length over this issue and informed him that I will be conducting this demonstration, so he is aware of the impending demonstration and the likely results. It is possible that I am in fact incorrect about my understanding of how the system actually functions behind the scenes, but I do not believe this to be the case. Hopefully, upon the conclusion of this demonstration, Theymos will be convinced of the lack of viability of the system and replace it with a more viable system or remove it entirely. While this certainly won't solve all of the problems Bitcointalk faces, at least we can try little steps to try and rehabilitate Bitcointalk as a place people can have civil discourse and believe what they read there instead of being forced to ignore the vast majority of the site. Has theymos actually authorized this? Didn't he implement this "trust" system? and Dogie, Bicknellski How do these tie in? Surly they did not approve this? |
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I just noticed this thread LOL Please don't think I am double posting but here  I am using win 7 64bit with the cpuminer fixed power usage (running through a 49 port BE hub), I am running core at 800MHz (some are wobbly on 850)
My question is I can only get between 275-305KHs with each unit? I thought stock was this speed and clocking to 800 should yeald 380+
Is there something I can change? Is this right? I just want to get the most out of a stable unit. Im getting 361KH @ 850MHZ. Higher than that and I get HW errors cropping up. This is about ball park I guess, I have gone down to 800 for your reason precicely, My HW err are little now, I have been told that it fluctuates drastically in hashing speed, But I struggle to peek at 300@800 Other people are peeking at 380@850 I did not think 50core would make that much impact. |
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I just noticed this thread LOL Please don't think I am double posting but here I am using win 7 64bit with the cpuminer fixed power usage (running through a 49 port BE hub), I am running core at 800MHz (some are wobbly on 850)
My question is I can only get between 275-305KHs with each unit? I thought stock was this speed and clocking to 800 should yeald 380+
Is there something I can change? Is this right? I just want to get the most out of a stable unit. |
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I am using win 7 64bit with the cpuminer fixed power usage (running through a 49 port BE hub), I am running core at 800MHz (some are wobbly on 850)
My question is I can only get between 275-305KHs with each unit? I thought stock was this speed and clocking to 800 should yeald 380+
Is there something I can change? Is this right? I just want to get the most out of a stable unit.
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Well I was just thinking of getting an electrum wallet. I guess the only safe place to put your bitcoins is in cold storage or in paper wallets. No matter how safe any site claim they be, all they need to say is: "Sorry, we've been hacked" and poof! all your bitcoins gone with no hope of getting the back while they get off scot-free.
+1 I have left this community before I came back, After realizing it was more my misplaced trust than being scammed. Now, I limit the amount of accounts (I.E. dont register for every new site that comes along) and have a long unique pass for each site I use. along with PGP and 2PA, I have daily withdrawals everywhere, And I store on cold wallets. |
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OK, I have been going through it all again, I must referance these messages (parts off, as full message is on page one):- Debt is on your terms, squall.
And to give dank a real shot at this, He needs to say whats "dooable" for him, For instance, If I said AT LEAST $160 PCM Only he can say if this is something that he can comfortably do.
At this point, I can only afford .1 BTC or so to start, is this okay? I could do more but it may impact my ability to earn income.
We have not agreed "in stone" an actual amount, I said $160 using "if", Dank replied his first payment would be 0.1, With no reference to payments thereafter. Due to a late "slacking" payment structure, From this point, I need $100 in BTC at time of conversion rate. I believe $100 bucks a month is more than doable for you. With two days left of this month, You are also behind a month, Don't make me send the heavy's round. |
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Yes, I got screwed, And the only way to contact them is via a web interface of 200 char or less, LOL I am moving in a month or two anyway, I have seen some good deals, I like to pay for what I use, Not what I might use in the next 12 months LOL. Sorry for off topic  |
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hello
I have still miner for sell
also I never claimed that I belong to any other forum person
forum member cyper thanks for your message but please understand I never claim belong to you anyway
thanks
NOTE TO FORUM - I have offered the full price, Provided I get the unit to my house, I have said I will not part with anything until this point, Knowing that it's possible to be scammed via an escrow (sending some rocks) If genuine, I will post pics of the unit and pay the full price asked! I believe this is fair Squall1066 |
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I would be, But to be honest, Pricing in the UK would be difficult to be competitive.
What I mean is, I have hosting of units in U.S.A, Damoh (India) and South korea, The most they pay is £0.075 P/KWh, In My house I pay £0.23 (medium of day/night rate) Then obviously charge a bit for hosting.
I would love to have some units close to me, I.E. same country. Pencil some ball park figures, I might bite.
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I have 10 BTCs I want to invest to increase my hashrate. This is a nonbinding auctions, since I can anticipate people disagreeing with the best offer. But I plan to use all 10 to buy hardware.
I prefer hardware I don't have to host.
Shares in GB are okay, but no I'll host my miner for you deals.
Securities are okay, but lower priority.
This is a great way to cash in on your hardware!!!
TJ
Follow three easy steps below. - Sign up for CEX.IO
- Buy hashing power
- Start mining.
Depends if OP wants to host, 10 BTC in cex.io will yeald 961.5384615384615 GHs (at time of post) if he wants to consider hardware, This can gather 1.8TH. I do run equipment on cex (as well as others), But I dont buy there for this reason, I make much more by paying the power costs. |
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